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Postby SHREWD » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:57 pm

    

●●● Miss Universe 2023 in El Salvador ●●●



●●● Miss World 2023 in United Arab Emirates ●●●



●●● Miss Earth 2023 in Vietnam ●●●



Which country is better in terms of budget, sponsorships and production value? 8->


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Postby FranciaREGINA » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:10 pm

I prefer the United Arab Emirates but Vietnam it's OK too! >:D<
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Re: ●●●WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM?●●●

Postby ClubEarthMisso » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:40 pm

No idea who will be a better host but I'll choose UAE mostly because I'm curious to see how will an Arab country will host a beauty pageant of this magnitude.
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Postby SHREWD » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:32 pm

I have low expectations about El Salvador's hosting of Miss Universe. Its per capita income is the fifth lowest in the Western Hemisphere. :|

I also wonder if there is a world-class venue (e.g. arenas and convention centers) in El Salvador. :)>-
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Postby ClubEarthMisso » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:59 pm

I believe El Salvador already hosted in the 70s if I'm not mistaken
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Re: ●●●WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM?●●●

Postby Fany » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:04 pm

UAE is the richest country of the three and has the potential to become a favorite host country for MW, like China for the past 2 decades.

Another advantage of the UAE is its large resident international community. So every MW contestant will find her national community there to support her. Which will multiply MW’s popularity globally. Miss Universe will be getting jelly.
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Postby sleuth08 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:55 pm

VIETNAM HOSTED NOT ONLY MISS EARTH BEFORE, BUT MISS UNIVERSE AS WELL AND SOME MINOR PAGEANTS. SO WE KNOW VIETNAM WILL DO A FANTASTIC JOB HOSTING THE FINAL NIGHT

I AM WITH MOST THAT I AM CURIOUS HOW UAE WILL HOST A PAGEANT. IT IS THEIR FIRST TIME AND SINCE MISS WORLD DOES NOT HAVE A SWIMSUIT SEGMENT IT WILL NOT OFFEND ANYONE. AND WHO KNOWS AFTER MISS WORLD UAE WILL HOST OTHER MAJOR PAGEANTS

EL SALVADOR IS THE ONE I AM CONCERN. THE NATIONAL GYMNASIUM THAT HOSTED THE PAGEANT IN 1975 IS VERY OLD. AND I AM BROWSING IF THE CITY HAS A NEW FACILITY BUT IT SEEMS THERE IS NONE UNLESS THEY BUILD A VENUE SIMILAR TO WHEN EILAT, ISRAEL HOSTED MISS UNIVERSE.
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Postby mrgary » Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:50 pm

ClubEarthMisso wrote:I believe El Salvador already hosted in the 70s if I'm not mistaken


The last time El Salvador hosted the Miss Universe pageant was in 1975 when our very own Chiqui Brosas became 4th Runner-up to Finland's Ann Marie Pohtamo, the ultimate winner that year. Back then, El Salvador's economy was still really good; however, it might be an entirely different story this time because of their "not-so-good" GDP economic rate which was at 103rd position in 2022 while the Philippines ranked 37th. I will definitely have some reservations holding the pageant there!
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Re: ●●●WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM?●●●

Postby XAMURAI » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:23 am

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I have low expectations about El Salvador's hosting of Miss Universe. Its per capita income is the fifth lowest in the Western Hemisphere. :|

I also wonder if there is a world-class venue (e.g. arenas and convention centers) in El Salvador. :)>-


They had hosted Miss Universe before when their GDP per capita was much lower...
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Postby XAMURAI » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:24 am

mrgary wrote:
ClubEarthMisso wrote:I believe El Salvador already hosted in the 70s if I'm not mistaken


The last time El Salvador hosted the Miss Universe pageant was in 1975 when our very own Chiqui Brosas became 4th Runner-up to Finland's Ann Marie Pohtamo, the ultimate winner that year. Back then, El Salvador's economy was still really good; however, it might be an entirely different story this time because of their "not-so-good" GDP economic rate which was at 103rd position in 2022 while the Philippines ranked 37th. I will definitely have some reservations holding the pageant there!


In El Salvador, the rich are really rich (much richer than average Japanese) while the poor are, yes, really poor. Those who have the money can do whatever they want!
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Postby XAMURAI » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:26 am

Fany wrote:UAE is the richest country of the three and has the potential to become a favorite host country for MW, like China for the past 2 decades.

Another advantage of the UAE is its large resident international community. So every MW contestant will find her national community there to support her. Which will multiply MW’s popularity globally. Miss Universe will be getting jelly.


I agree! UAE is a melting pot and it is very receptive to many nationalities! I would love to visit my classmates there in Dubai and Abu Dhabi if I have the chance.
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Postby Ian Sebastin » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:14 am

I am excited to see El Salvador host the pageant. I'm sure it will be a great show.

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Postby uzumaki » Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:18 am

There were reports that Japan's hosting of Miss International last year is their last. I dont know whether this is true. It also looks like this years Miss International is bigger in terms of participation as more than 90 countries has already expressed their interest to participate this year.

Miss Earth is looking to surpass to more than 90 delegates to even passing 100 mark this year. With how the Viernamese organizing commitee hosted last year queen, it looks like this edition will be the biggest in terms of country participation and production. Add to the fact that the hosting of Miss Earth in Vietnam has the backing of the Vietnamese Government.

Miss World is certainly up for a bigger comeback. I hoping to see changes in the final presentation. Just make it more exciting. UAE is known for grandeur, so certainly this edition will not be an exemption.

El Salvador hosting this years Miss Universe edition is also backed by the Salvadoran government and of course JKN's first time to get themself into the production and preparation so I will also expect they will come with a big surprise.

if Miss Supranational or Miss Intercontinental's plan to host their pageants in the Pageant crazy Philippines then they will surely rock the pageant scene with a bang.

This year is exciting and will definitely challenge the minor pageants to step up their game.
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Postby XAMURAI » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:30 am

uzumaki wrote:There were reports that Japan's hosting of Miss International last year is their last. I dont know whether this is true. It also looks like this years Miss International is bigger in terms of participation as more than 90 countries has already expressed their interest to participate this year.

Miss Earth is looking to surpass to more than 90 delegates to even passing 100 mark this year. With how the Viernamese organizing commitee hosted last year queen, it looks like this edition will be the biggest in terms of country participation and production. Add to the fact that the hosting of Miss Earth in Vietnam has the backing of the Vietnamese Government.

Miss World is certainly up for a bigger comeback. I hoping to see changes in the final presentation. Just make it more exciting. UAE is known for grandeur, so certainly this edition will not be an exemption.

El Salvador hosting this years Miss Universe edition is also backed by the Salvadoran government and of course JKN's first time to get themself into the production and preparation so I will also expect they will come with a big surprise.

if Miss Supranational or Miss Intercontinental's plan to host their pageants in the Pageant crazy Philippines then they will surely rock the pageant scene with a bang.

This year is exciting and will definitely challenge the minor pageants to step up their game.



Actually, Japan wants to host Miss International every year! It's the desire of our owner to hold it in Japan every year. That is why, any offer that is less than $1 million for hosting fee alone is being rejected.

Right now, we have 112 applicants trying to get into the 80+ slots available for Miss International 2023.

2024, there is a country that is bidding to raise more than $1 million for hosting fee. 2025, the pageant will return to Japan because of the 2025 OSAKA Expo.
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Postby MariaAndreina » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:13 pm

If we go solely by country then UAE is the clear favorite.

However, by now we know that what matters really is if the pageant is funded by the government or at least proper private sponsors. The worst editions of Miss Universe have probably all been in the US, despite the US being the wealthiest country on earth.

El Salvador will be funded by the government, $12M. I think we're in for a great Miss Universe edition.
All in all, we're in for a solid pageant year with these three hosts.
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Postby Fany » Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:07 am

MariaAndreina wrote:If we go solely by country then UAE is the clear favorite.

However, by now we know that what matters really is if the pageant is funded by the government or at least proper private sponsors. The worst editions of Miss Universe have probably all been in the US, despite the US being the wealthiest country on earth.

El Salvador will be funded by the government, $12M. I think we're in for a great Miss Universe edition.
All in all, we're in for a solid pageant year with these three hosts.


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Postby kantutay » Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:24 am

El Salvador is a dangerous place. Lots of gang violence primarily MS 13 gangs. I don't think Jonas and Voltaire will be roaming the streets over there for their social climbing photo ops.
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Postby RainBernardi » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:50 am

Every new host country is ok as long as it is not always going back to the home country for lack of options and budget.
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uzumaki wrote:There were reports that Japan's hosting of Miss International last year is their last. I dont know whether this is true. It also looks like this years Miss International is bigger in terms of participation as more than 90 countries has already expressed their interest to participate this year.

Miss Earth is looking to surpass to more than 90 delegates to even passing 100 mark this year. With how the Viernamese organizing commitee hosted last year's queen, it looks like this edition will be the biggest in terms of country participation and production. Add to the fact that the hosting of Miss Earth in Vietnam has the backing of the Vietnamese Government.

Miss World is certainly up for a bigger comeback. I hoping to see changes in the final presentation. Just make it more exciting. UAE is known for grandeur, so certainly this edition will not be an exemption.

El Salvador hosting this years Miss Universe edition is also backed by the Salvadoran government and of course JKN's first time to get themself into the production and preparation so I will also expect they will come with a big surprise.

if Miss Supranational or Miss Intercontinental's plan to host their pageants in the Pageant crazy Philippines then they will surely rock the pageant scene with a bang.

This year is exciting and will definitely challenge the minor pageants to step up their game.



Actually, Japan wants to host Miss International every year! It's the desire of our owner to hold it in Japan every year. That is why, any offer that is less than $1 million for hosting fee alone is being rejected.

Right now, we have 112 applicants trying to get into the 80+ slots available for Miss International 2023.

2024, there is a country that is bidding to raise more than $1 million for hosting fee. 2025, the pageant will return to Japan because of the 2025 OSAKA Expo.




Wow! 112 interested participants. Now the question is what would be the qualifications to get to the lucky 80 or 90 delagates?
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XAMURAI wrote:
uzumaki wrote:There were reports that Japan's hosting of Miss International last year is their last. I dont know whether this is true. It also looks like this years Miss International is bigger in terms of participation as more than 90 countries has already expressed their interest to participate this year.

Miss Earth is looking to surpass to more than 90 delegates to even passing 100 mark this year. With how the Viernamese organizing commitee hosted last year's queen, it looks like this edition will be the biggest in terms of country participation and production. Add to the fact that the hosting of Miss Earth in Vietnam has the backing of the Vietnamese Government.

Miss World is certainly up for a bigger comeback. I hoping to see changes in the final presentation. Just make it more exciting. UAE is known for grandeur, so certainly this edition will not be an exemption.

El Salvador hosting this years Miss Universe edition is also backed by the Salvadoran government and of course JKN's first time to get themself into the production and preparation so I will also expect they will come with a big surprise.

if Miss Supranational or Miss Intercontinental's plan to host their pageants in the Pageant crazy Philippines then they will surely rock the pageant scene with a bang.

This year is exciting and will definitely challenge the minor pageants to step up their game.



Actually, Japan wants to host Miss International every year! It's the desire of our owner to hold it in Japan every year. That is why, any offer that is less than $1 million for hosting fee alone is being rejected.

Right now, we have 112 applicants trying to get into the 80+ slots available for Miss International 2023.

2024, there is a country that is bidding to raise more than $1 million for hosting fee. 2025, the pageant will return to Japan because of the 2025 OSAKA Expo.




Wow! 112 interested participants. Now the question is what would be the qualifications to get to the lucky 80 or 90 delagates?



Franchise agreements have already been released and it's going to be a first come first serve basis in terms of payment of the license fee! Good luck to them! May the odds be in their favor!
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Postby renegade » Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:53 pm

I just dont understand why is El Salvador hosting Miss Universe? For what reason they are not rich to begin with, not even placing at Miss Universe or not to be funded by private sponsors. So what is the motivation of their govt? I would understand if its Colombia, Ecuador, Peru or Dominican Rep hosting.
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Postby ajsy0203 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:15 pm

renegade wrote:I just dont understand why is El Salvador hosting Miss Universe? For what reason they are not rich to begin with, not even placing at Miss Universe or not to be funded by private sponsors. So what is the motivation of their govt? I would understand if its Colombia, Ecuador, Peru or Dominican Rep hosting.


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Re: ●●●WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM?●●●

Postby Ian Sebastin » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:27 am

renegade wrote:I just dont understand why is El Salvador hosting Miss Universe? For what reason they are not rich to begin with, not even placing at Miss Universe or not to be funded by private sponsors. So what is the motivation of their govt? I would understand if its Colombia, Ecuador, Peru or Dominican Rep hosting.


LMAO. Are you really talking about the wealth of a country? You have the Filipino flag in your profile. So, I am going to assume that you're from the Philippines. The Philippines hosted the pageant in 2016 and they're not a rich country at all. Based on research that I did both the Philippines and El Salvador have a national poverty rate of 22%. El Salvador has a higher per city GDP than the Philippines while the Philippines has a higher GDP as a country. Manila has over 500 slums spread around just the metropolitian area alone. I mean what is the delusion with Filipinos? Calling out a country for not being rich when you're country is in the same boat.

If anyone wants a vibrant description of Manila please read some comments from Claire Danes. Enough said. =;)) =;)) =;)) =;))

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Re: ●●●WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM?●●●

Postby fortela » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:01 am

renegade wrote:I just dont understand why is El Salvador hosting Miss Universe? For what reason they are not rich to begin with, not even placing at Miss Universe or not to be funded by private sponsors. So what is the motivation of their govt? I would understand if its Colombia, Ecuador, Peru or Dominican Rep hosting.


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Re: ◙ ◙ ◙ WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM? ◙ ◙

Postby manoypoe » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:31 am

I am excited on UAE's hosting of Miss World. There were rumors before that they would be hosting Miss Earth. I want to see how this will work oiy but for sure, it will be a feather to Miss World's cup.

Next for me, is Miss Earth in Vietnam.

For Miss Universe, my excitement is drowned by the drama of Mother Anne.
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Re: ◙ ◙ ◙ WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM? ◙ ◙

Postby Jon A » Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:08 am

For its wealth and infrstratucture the UAE, but also because the one thing MWO consistently does well is showcase a host country

But most of all, just for how unique and historic this is. Pageants will enter a part of the world we have not seen closely before! All the other locations are good, but there is nothing unexpected today about a pageant in SEA or Central America or Japan (which sadly is always extremely unimpressive under MI - like a budget group tourism event in Tokyo)
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Re: ◙ ◙ ◙ WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM? ◙ ◙

Postby cindy_kato » Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:47 am

UAE of course because I'm bias.

Hopefully ladies will visit Al Hosn Palace since I live next to it, not that I care though
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Re: ●●●WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM?●●●

Postby lingintexas » Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:01 pm

MariaAndreina wrote:If we go solely by country then UAE is the clear favorite.

However, by now we know that what matters really is if the pageant is funded by the government or at least proper private sponsors. The worst editions of Miss Universe have probably all been in the US, despite the US being the wealthiest country on earth.

El Salvador will be funded by the government, $12M. I think we're in for a great Miss Universe edition.
All in all, we're in for a solid pageant year with these three hosts.


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According to a lot of financial websites the US is not the richest country in the world.
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Re: ◙ ◙ ◙ WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM? ◙ ◙

Postby Frank Speech » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:08 pm

UAE is going to be spectacular if all goes well but honestly, I think all three countries are great! I love Miss Universe in El Salvador!
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Re: ◙ ◙ ◙ WHICH IS BETTER...EL SALVADOR, UAE OR VIETNAM? ◙ ◙

Postby ClubEarthMisso » Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:08 am



Miss Earth 2023 Hosting in Vietnam in Jeopardy?

The Vietnamese host for Miss Earth 2023, Nova Entertainment, a subsidiary of Novaland Group, a property developer is reportedly having financial and corporate difficulties and may not be able to host Miss Earth 2023 according to our sources.

On a previous news, "Novaland, a major developer of housing projects and resorts in the south, said it has been facing unprecedented challenges this year and that some banks have stopped disbursing loans they had agreed to provide while some buyers cannot pay the money they owe.
The company has cut its payroll by half, sold some assets at low prices and has had to stop work on some major projects.
It is now in the process of restructuring and seeks to have its debts rolled over for another two or three years." - VN Express International

We are still hoping for the best with Nova Group and overcome this hurdle and our line is open for clarification and statement.
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