artaestes wrote:I may be rude but she should have resigned when she found out she has a health problem..
It is disrespectful foe the current miss universe candidates who are sacrificing a lot to have a decent body ...
Ian Sebastin wrote:I think when you decide to parade around on stage in a swimsuit then you're setting yourself up to be critiqued. It is a requirement in both the national pageants and the Universe stage.
I have watched many Youtube videos about formers saying how they're in the best shapes of their lives when they're competing. So, if body image is not important why do 99.5% of the girls competing in the system have the same body type?
Harnaaz was in amazing shape during both the Miss India pageant and Miss Universe. She obviously worked very hard to achieve that figure. Do you know why she achieved that figure? She hoped to one day win the title of Miss India and one day a Miss Universe title. Well, she did just that. Suddenly, a month into her reign she starts gaining weight. Harnaaz claims to have celiac disease which was apparently triggered due to a different diet. If that was the issue, she has a whole organization at her disposal. They are surely capable of working around her required dietary issues to prevent weight gain. They probably didn't want to because of this whole stupid woke culture and coming off as offensive. If Trump was still the owner of the pageant, he would have taken care of the issue directly.
People seem to forget at the end of the day the Miss Universe pageant is a beauty pageant. Women are judged and scored. Look at the daily youtube videos being posted of the girls in New Orleans. Do any of them look like Harnaaz? No. They do not. If Harnaaz had shown up to Israel last year looking like she did, she would not have won the crown. People would not have included her in their list.
She knew what she was signing up for. It is odd that she would be in the best shape of her life while she was competing in pageants and then the complete opposite after she won. If she does not care about her body then she should have competed looking the way she does now.
The Miss Universe Organization will never crown a plus-sized woman. So, a girl should not be allowed to gain a ridiculous amount of weight during her reign. She looks awful and I cannot wait to see her go.
Virginia Dalisay wrote:Nothing wrong with being fat, but any Miss Universe winner should look pleasing in the eye as she is currently a public figure after she won the coveted crown.
In short, she should play the role, at least during her reign.
I think he is pretty new to this forum, based on the tag, but he has a point.Elif87 wrote:Honey you act like you just joined this forum
Jim_From_Boston wrote:Quite frankly I’m more tired of virtue-signaling addicts lecturing the rest of us on “body-shaming” and overall social media etiquette. You’re nothing but self-righteous hypocrites who feign outrage in a lame attempt to elevate yourselves as paragons of compassion and tolerance while denunciating anyone who dares to offer a politically incorrect opinion. Here’s the reality. Harnaz, et al, chose to enter a beauty competition, and ended up winning the premier prize of Miss Universe. In doing so, she made the decision to put herself out there, and we’re all at liberty to weigh in with our thoughts and opinions. If you’re not able to handle that then perhaps a forum isn’t for you.
The.Apprentice wrote:Jim_From_Boston wrote:Quite frankly I’m more tired of virtue-signaling addicts lecturing the rest of us on “body-shaming” and overall social media etiquette. You’re nothing but self-righteous hypocrites who feign outrage in a lame attempt to elevate yourselves as paragons of compassion and tolerance while denunciating anyone who dares to offer a politically incorrect opinion. Here’s the reality. Harnaz, et al, chose to enter a beauty competition, and ended up winning the premier prize of Miss Universe. In doing so, she made the decision to put herself out there, and we’re all at liberty to weigh in with our thoughts and opinions. If you’re not able to handle that then perhaps a forum isn’t for you.
But that doesn't give people the right to write such outrageous and hateful comments to her. She's still a person, with a heart and a mind, who is reading all of this.
We don't know what happened, we probably never will, and to be honest she doesn't owe us anything in regards to her health or body type. She's not our object or property.
A politically incorrect opinion does not mean hate, or putting someone down constantly, or asking so many rude questions about it.
Seriously, people have overlooked her achievements because she gained weight. How sad is that. They only like Miss Universe for the runways, photoshoots and gowns dresses, not the girl herself.
Yes she was judged in her swimsuit but that doesn't mean people should be horrible to her because she changed. What happened to understanding each other and compassion.
And more so coming from usually LGBTQIA+ people who are bullied for who they are, what they look like, how they talk, how they behave....who now gang up and bully a 22 years old because she's not fitting in a specific beauty pageant mold.
What she went through in regards to her health is none of our business. I admire her tenacity and courage.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. The entire thread shows one thing though: pageantry as an institution and a community has a very long way to go when it comes to these standards. (The funny part is that Miss Universe has allowed women like Ashley Graham to be a color commentator in the past few years, given that she is a plus-size model herself). At this moment, I just hope that the organization does better, along with their fans and even contestants (thankfully, Miss Bolivia has dethroned Fernanda Pavisic!).The.Apprentice wrote:Jim_From_Boston wrote:Quite frankly I’m more tired of virtue-signaling addicts lecturing the rest of us on “body-shaming” and overall social media etiquette. You’re nothing but self-righteous hypocrites who feign outrage in a lame attempt to elevate yourselves as paragons of compassion and tolerance while denunciating anyone who dares to offer a politically incorrect opinion. Here’s the reality. Harnaz, et al, chose to enter a beauty competition, and ended up winning the premier prize of Miss Universe. In doing so, she made the decision to put herself out there, and we’re all at liberty to weigh in with our thoughts and opinions. If you’re not able to handle that then perhaps a forum isn’t for you.
But that doesn't give people the right to write such outrageous and hateful comments to her. She's still a person, with a heart and a mind, who is reading all of this.
We don't know what happened, we probably never will, and to be honest she doesn't owe us anything in regards to her health or body type. She's not our object or property.
A politically incorrect opinion does not mean hate, or putting someone down constantly, or asking so many rude questions about it.
Seriously, people have overlooked her achievements because she gained weight. How sad is that. They only like Miss Universe for the runways, photoshoots and gowns dresses, not the girl herself.
Yes she was judged in her swimsuit but that doesn't mean people should be horrible to her because she changed. What happened to understanding each other and compassion.
And more so coming from usually LGBTQIA+ people who are bullied for who they are, what they look like, how they talk, how they behave....who now gang up and bully a 22 years old because she's not fitting in a specific beauty pageant mold.
What she went through in regards to her health is none of our business. I admire her tenacity and courage.
I also agree with this.lingintexas wrote:There is a big difference between fat shaming and constructive criticism. She looks like she has given up so sad. The ones that are fat shaming can`t hold a candle to her to begin with let alone compete in Miss farm hand
I don't remember Catriona gaining that much weight, though - but yes, I do remember people also body-shaming her and calling her ''Fatriona'' for fun, which is disgusting.kantutay wrote:Reminds me of Karla Henry and Catriona's reign.
kantutay wrote:Reminds me of Karla Henry and Catriona's reign.
jidelk wrote:kantutay wrote:Reminds me of Karla Henry and Catriona's reign.
Catriona gained some, which is somewhat normal and still looked gorgeous.
But Harnaaz is an extreme, that girl has no sense of her role
RainBernardi wrote:it's really hard to tell the definition of a healthy body.
Is it when you are thin or is it when you are voluptuous?
for me. I think when you win Miss Universe or any pageants, you should still be marketable.
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