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Who Tops Them All?

Postby Prozac » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:01 am

    

You know what qualifies an all time-high in gimmickries ... that's what Amanda and her ilk is doing. A) 150 outfit for the duration
of Miss Universe contest B) claiming she will wear branded clothes -Armani, Gucci Louis Vuitton, Prada C) In her arrival she will
travel in an expensive yacht ... ad nauseam.

And this is my take on this.

An ostentatious display of wardrobe and branded outfit is a pretentious display designed to impress and attract notice. It is also
designed to obscure and camouflage a weakness or a lack of something (the Q and A perhaps)? The defense mechanism used
is overcompensation in psychology. By all means anybody can bring designer clothes and shoes and can change outfit every two
hours like there is no tomorrow. You can bring even 500, but do you really have to announce it to the whole world? Do you really have
to brag about it (the supporters I mean) and rubbing the fact that you are wearing a Prada, a Gucci, a Louis Vuitton and the others don't?
At this time of pandemic where everybody is dying and suffering, this is repulsive and politically incorrect. If I were made to choose
between: sincerity, honesty, humility, simplicity vs. braggadocio, grandstanding and egotism I will choose the former.


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Postby Prozac » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:03 am

Clever gimmicks of mass distraction yield a cheap soulcraft of addicted and self-medicated narcissists.
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby hauteegirl » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:20 am

millions of people died and bragging about expensive and luxurious stuffs will leave bad taste to the judges. With what's going on in India right now? Not a surprise that they will win.
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Prozac » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:01 am

The rule of the thumb is: YOU CAN'T Be FAKE.

If you are fake, you end up selling a gimmick. A little gimmick is welcome, It is cool because it has entertainment value.
But too much of gimmickry is a POISON!

But when you start yourself mostly on the REAL stuff, the possibilities are endless. You will never run out of it because
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby RatedX » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:06 am

That strategy of showing off her luxury is a gonna be a major turn-off to the MUO especially this pandemic.

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Prozac » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:29 am

"millions of people died and bragging about expensive and luxurious stuffs will leave bad taste to the judges. With what's going on in India right now? Not a surprise that they will win."

I heard this line of thought before in Miss Universe 2013. Yolanda or Typhoon Haiyan wrecked havoc and devastation in the Philippines and killed 6,300 and one pageant expert stated
he will not be surprised if Philippines will place. And it did happen because Ariella Arida placed third Runner Up.

Is there really a sympathy vote in Miss U? Will the next sympathy vote recipient be India? What do you think guys?
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Qui Qui Quinali Quote » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:33 am

I seriously can’t tell if what Miss Thailand is doing is right or wrong .

But basing on the recent Oscar Awards ... the big stars showed up wearing luxurious and extravagant gowns etc .
And it registered its lowest TV rating ever .

The Miss Universe pageant is essentially just a TV show for entertainment purpose in this midst of coronavirus pandemic.
So yeah... is it right or is it wrong to stage a pageant at all ?

Anyway .. the Tokyo Olympics will push through this year but no visitors from other countries are allowed to watch it live .
Yeah it’s kinda off topic .. just saying .


BTW .. I’m not saying you’re right or wrong .
We’re living in a dark and gloomy days with so much death all over the world .
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Ligaya Magdalena » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:33 am

Hindi kasalanan ni Amanda kung mayaman at may perang pambili ng luxurious brands ang team niya.

Mga boklong towww, halatang halata na naiinggit, triggered at threatened kay Amanda.

Palibhasa, mukhang galing ukay ukay mga damit ng kandidata nila.

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Rosa Mystica » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:35 am

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Totoypasiboy » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:46 am

One character that the MUO and IMG is looking for a winner is relatabity which is something she is lacking with what she's trying to portray. Like I said before, a thousand dollar dress nor a 99 pesos imitation from Lazada, will not automatically give you the crown. Your training, passion, attitude, personality and destiny will.

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Virginia Dalisay » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:47 am

Ligaya Magdalena wrote:
Hindi kasalanan ni Amanda kung mayaman at may perang pambili ng luxurious brands ang team niya.

Mga boklong towww, halatang halata na naiinggit, triggered at threatened kay Amanda.

Palibhasa, mukhang galing ukay ukay mga damit ng kandidata nila.

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Qui Qui Quinali Quote » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:37 am

This could very well be the final question in the Miss Universe pageant .

Is it right or wrong to wear luxurious and expensive items in the Miss Universe pageant with the coronavirus pandemic going on ?
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby XAMURAI » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:05 am

Prozac wrote:"millions of people died and bragging about expensive and luxurious stuffs will leave bad taste to the judges. With what's going on in India right now? Not a surprise that they will win."

I heard this line of thought before in Miss Universe 2013. Yolanda or Typhoon Haiyan wrecked havoc and devastation in the Philippines and killed 6,300 and one pageant expert stated
he will not be surprised if Philippines will place. And it did happen because Ariella Arida placed third Runner Up.

Is there really a sympathy vote in Miss U? Will the next sympathy vote recipient be India? What do you think guys?


Sympathy vote for Olivia Culpo with the mass school shooting in Connecticut (which is near Rhode Island where Olivia's from)..
Sympathy vote for France in 2015.

Yes sympathy vote can happen, but it still depends on the judges if they will weigh that in or not. The bottom line is, the unfortunate events did give the delegate a chance to be noticed.
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby beauberly » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:07 am


To be honest I don't mind if a candidate wears luxury stuffs, many candidates at Miss Universe already did that before, some are just lowkey not announcing it on social media. We all know at the end it's gonna be the battle of the brains :%)) :%))

Btw posting and announcing the brands and prices of the wardrobes on social media is Eeww. Kinda screams nouveau rich! :%)) :%)) ya know those people who have come into money recently, but do not have the perceived 'inherent good taste' of the upper class lol :%)) :%)) :%))





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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Qui Qui Quinali Quote » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:17 am

Rosa Mystica wrote:
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My queens-piration is Margarita Moran because she’s effortless when she competed . There’s no exaggerated walk or anything like that . It’s just her sheer grace and beauty ... 100% pure , natural with no artificial flavors .
And her gown was beyond her time . Bongga . Ampapangit ng mga gowns ng nakalaban nya . Si USA eh pa Greek goddess effect yung gown and it still did not fare well with Margarita Moran’s gown .
Tsaka when she answered her question sa semi finals with her saying she wants to be banker ..she’s very relaxed and casual lang .. yung facial expressions nya very pleasing and natural ... she’s really into it and very engaging ... parang ang sarap makipag usap sa kanya .
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby blazingskyx27 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:38 am


Gimmickry can only you bring you as far as the Top 5. ( right, Fahsai? )
After that, a queen has to rely on her wits and gray matter to give appropriate answers to the questions given at hand.
Hinde kailangan nang mga Pinay beauty queens nang gimmickry.
The Philippines has been winning crowns in the early years of the international pageantry in the 60's & 70's.
From Gemma Cruz, Gloria Diaz, Aurora Pijuan, Margarita Moran and Melanie Marquez.
Ganda lang ang puhunan nila at chill lang sa pag sagot sa Q & A na parang nakikipag kwentuhan lang sa mga classmates nila sa coed schools hihihihi.
Hindi ko makita yung sense na magdadala nang 100 - 200 suitcases for the competition.
Si Pia nga, muntik pang hindi ma suot yung blue gown ni Albert Andrada na naging iconic dahil sa controversial na announcement ni Steve Harvey.
Bumabagyo daw kasi nung time nayun at muntik pang hindi ma deliver yung gown sa Las Vegas.
Pero anong ending? Win pa rin ang ate Pia nyo kasi prepared sya sa Q & A.
Si Catriona naman, yeah me konting gimmick pero she has the ability and the capability to win the competition.
Marami kasi syang weapons in her arsenal. Maganda, matangkad, articulate magsalita, magaling mag construct ng sentence and verbally deliver it in a spontaneous manner.
Me utak talaga si ate Cat.
The Pinay beauty queens of past and present contributed to the sash factor of The Philippines.
Reason why all eyes are on our girls and expect a lot from them.

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Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:39 am

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby twisted123 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:46 am

blazingskyx27 wrote:
Gimmickry can only you bring you as far as the Top 5. ( right, Fahsai? )
After that, a queen has to rely on her wits and gray matter to give appropriate answers to the questions given at hand.
Hinde kailangan nang mga Pinay beauty queens nang gimmickry.
The Philippines has been winning crowns in the early years of the international pageantry in the 60's & 70's.
From Gemma Cruz, Gloria Diaz, Aurora Pijuan, Margarita Moran and Melanie Marquez.
Ganda lang ang puhunan nila at chill lang sa pag sagot sa Q & A na parang nakikipag kwentuhan lang sa mga classmates nila sa coed schools hihihihi.
Hindi ko makita yung sense na magdadala nang 100 - 200 suitcases for the competition.
Si Pia nga, muntik pang hindi ma suot yung blue gown ni Albert Andrada na naging iconic dahil sa controversial na announcement ni Steve Harvey.
Bumabagyo daw kasi nung time nayun at muntik pang hindi ma deliver yung gown sa Las Vegas.
Pero anong ending? Win pa rin ang ate Pia nyo kasi prepared sya sa Q & A.
Si Catriona naman, yeah me konting gimmick pero she has the ability and the capability to win the competition.
Marami kasi syang weapons in her arsenal. Maganda, matangkad, articulate magsalita, magaling mag construct ng sentence and verbally deliver it in a spontaneous manner.
Me utak talaga si ate Cat.
The Pinay beauty queens of past and present contributed to the sash factor of The Philippines.
Reason why all eyes are on our girls and expect a lot from them.



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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Prozac » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:46 am

Quote: "Hindi kasalanan ni Amanda kung mayaman at may perang pambili ng luxurious brands ang team niya.
Mga boklong towww, halatang halata na naiinggit, triggered at threatened kay Amanda.
Palibhasa, mukhang galing ukay ukay mga damit ng kandidata nila."

I think you are missing the point. We are talking about whether it is appropriate for Amanda and her team to do lavish
and extravagant spending at this time when you can smell DEATH everywhere because of Covid. Unemployment is so common
and people were forced out of work and people are languishing because there is not enough money to spend for a family of three.
I even said: Amanda can even bring 500 more expensive outfits, and she can change clothes every 2 hours if that's what makes her happy.
I even said riding in a yacht is okey. If that doesn't satisfy the team they can use a helicopter instead and let Amanda bungee
jump in that huge guitar sign - a famous landmark in Hollywood Florida.

What was wrong was when team herald the news, like it is the most important news of the day. What was wrong was that they
don't have regard to other candidates who doesn't have the means and the sponsors to buy Prada, Louis Vuitton and the like.
What was wrong was when the team starts bragging about it, as if they have set the bar high enough that other candidates
get intimidated they will look impoverish when put side by side with Amanda. What was wrong was, when they are insinuating
that spending is okey, and thinking about tomorrow is thrown out of the window, anyway you get Miss Universe. What happens
if she don't? That's a rude awakening.

IN SHORT, WHAT I WAS ASKING WAS WHETHER IT IS POLITICALLY CORRECT TO INDULGE IN BRAGGADOCIO UNMINDFUL OF THE FIGHTS
AND FLIGHTS OF OTHERS. Think about this. You went to console a friend whose father died of Covid. And here is your neighbor
who is not content about just playing the music ... he amplified it on and the whole community hears the blaring music. Isn't that
infuriating? That's what Team Thailand is doing. They infuriate bystanders with their sheer disregard for right and wrong and often
disregard the rights, and feelings of others. They antagonize, manipulate or treat others either harshly or with callous indifference.

And you were right it is not Amanda's fault if they have the money TO SPEND. I say it again, if they want to squander their millions,
they can do it NOW ... nobody will stop them. Bleed and milk their bank account dry?

And you intentionally dragged Rabiya in the discussion. I don't care who wins. Get it?
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Qui Qui Quinali Quote » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:20 am

Hindi naman sa ano ‘no ...
Pero mas angat talaga si Rabiya quesa dyan que Amanda Obdam pag dating sa Q and A .
May sustansya din naman ang pinagsasabe ni Amanda pero hindi ka mabubusog. Parang mini burger lang at fries .
Yung que Rabiya eh kanin at ulam talaga at may panghimagas pa qase she always ends her answer on a positive note .
You can easily tell that Rabiya is a motivational speaker.
Si Amanda eh candidate lang while Rabiya is an influencer .
Very charismatic si Rabiya . You are drawn to her after she’s done speaking .
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Prozac » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:44 am

Quote: "Hindi naman sa ano ‘no ...
Pero mas angat talaga si Rabiya quesa dyan que Amanda Obdam pag dating sa Q and A .
May sustansya din naman ang pinagsasabe ni Amanda pero hindi ka mabubusog. Parang mini burger lang at fries .
Yung que Rabiya eh kanin at ulam talaga at may panghimagas pa qase she always ends her answer on a positive note .
You can easily tell that Rabiya is a motivational speaker. Si Amanda eh candidate lang while Rabiya is an influencer ."

In fairness to Rabiya, I likened her to a song that has a story to tell. I like her because she always have something
to say and has some meat to it. All her songs were solo voices. Just her singing.

In fact that was her gimmick - and that gimmick was - NO GIMMICKRY for her. Just singing straight with not too much
background.
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Prozac » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:55 am

Quote: " This could very well be the final question in the Miss Universe pageant .
Is it right or wrong to wear luxurious and expensive items in the Miss Universe pageant with the coronavirus pandemic going on ?

Gosh a self-fulfilling prophecy? I would love that too. And hopefully Rabiya and Amanda were the last two women standing ...
and they will settle this controversy once and for all.
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Ligaya Magdalena » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:25 pm

Nakuh, tigil tigilan niyo nga akong lahat ng kaplastikan niyo. Iba pa rin ang may pera, mas komportable ang buhay mo at nabibili mo lahat ng gusto mo. For sure kung may pera at kayang gumastos ng team ni Rabiya eh they will not settle for less. Bibilhin din nila yung binili ni Amanda na mga luxury brand. Contest yan, pabongahan sa damit ang labanan diyan. We all live in a material world and money is your strong leverage. Aminin niyo yan...
Madeleine, bago mo sabihing naiinis ka sakin,
tanong mo muna kung natutuwa ako sayo. Okay?
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby Virginia Dalisay » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:49 pm

Napaka matapobre mo naman Ligaya. HINDI LAHAT NABIBILI NG PERA. At higit sa lahat hindi mo madadala sa langit yan! [-X

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby batobato » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:56 pm

Topic was all about Amanda and her luxurious and extravagant ensemble

Why drag PH delegate here and compare? Dragging Rabiya's name and other past candidate from yesteryear reeks insecurity on some Filipinos =b

Stick to the topic. Nakakahiya kayo!
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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby BANANA REPUBLIC » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:02 pm

Virginia Dalisay wrote:Napaka matapobre mo naman Ligaya. HINDI LAHAT NABIBILI NG PERA. At higit sa lahat hindi mo madadala sa langit yan! [-X

Wrong! Madami kang anda, madami kang nota.

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Re: Who Tops Them All?

Postby BANANA REPUBLIC » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:07 pm

batobato wrote:Topic was all about Amanda and her luxurious and extravagant ensemble

Why drag PH delegate here and compare? Dragging Rabiya's name and other past candidate from yesteryear reeks insecurity on some Filipinos =b

Stick to the topic. Nakakahiya kayo!


Wrong! Sino ba umaaway kay Amanda, diva mga pinoy fans.... NOW, CONNECT THE DOTS! [-X
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