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Earth, Air, Water and Fire!
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Miss Ph Earth 2020 - @roxieebae | Miss Ph Air 2020 - @patrixiasantosx
Miss Ph Water 2020 - @giannallanes | Miss Ph Fire 2020 - @shaneytormes




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Postby manoypoe » Mon May 31, 2021 5:32 pm

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Official shots for Miss Philippines Earth, I am your official candidate representing the lovely city of Paranaque.
I’ve been telling myself for the past 4 years, If I’m gonna join a national pageant, it’s gonna be Miss Earth. And here I am Earthlings!
Stay tuned and I hope I can get your support on my journey to try and get the crown.
PS: I was pretty sick when I shot this, I literally came straight from the clinic prior.

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Postby Busyboy » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:12 am

Miss LGU na!

I like Parañaque. And another one na hindi ko matandaan ang LGU.
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manoypoe wrote:
Earth, Air, Water and Fire!
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Miss Ph Earth 2020 - @roxieebae | Miss Ph Air 2020 - @patrixiasantosx
Miss Ph Water 2020 - @giannallanes | Miss Ph Fire 2020 - @shaneytormes




Di ba pwedeng Patricia Santos na lang muna for this year? Nasasayangan ako eh...
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Miss Philippines Earth 2021 Bayambang, Pangasinan Jan Rlee De Guzman @jan.rlee looks for todays' @missphilearth Air Group 'Meet the Press' event.

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My first official photoshoot wearing a Patch Llantanda creation emulating the personification of nature’s verdant colors.
My official casual wear is in my chosen earth color, grass green, symbolizing my hope for a greener earth.
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Postby laruuuh » Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:37 am

manoypoe wrote:Tita Belay: Yii! Nasa website na ng @missphilearth yung profile pic ng mga delegates ng #MissPhilippinesEarth2021! Kung tama ako ha.. Yung background color ng picture nila yan yung color na napili nila

Alam ko di pa lahat na upload kasi yung iba di ko pa nakita. Hehe..

May nag dm pala sa personal page ko na tigil tigilan ko daw pag popost sa MPE /ME. Kalerkz.. di yata niya knows na kaya nga na push tong page na toh para promote tong pageant na toh.




People can really go so low. Instead of just promoting the pageant they like, they go out of their way to put down another pageant. Feeling ko most of them are pinoy pa. This is really sad.

Did not know that Tita's of pageantry was created to promote Miss Earth. That was nice to know.
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Namove na daw uli ang Miss World Philippines? Same date with MPE?
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manoypoe wrote:Tita Belay: Yii! Nasa website na ng @missphilearth yung profile pic ng mga delegates ng #MissPhilippinesEarth2021! Kung tama ako ha.. Yung background color ng picture nila yan yung color na napili nila

Alam ko di pa lahat na upload kasi yung iba di ko pa nakita. Hehe..

May nag dm pala sa personal page ko na tigil tigilan ko daw pag popost sa MPE /ME. Kalerkz.. di yata niya knows na kaya nga na push tong page na toh para promote tong pageant na toh.




People can really go so low. Instead of just promoting the pageant they like, they go out of their way to put down another pageant. Feeling ko most of them are pinoy pa. This is really sad.

Did not know that Tita's of pageantry was created to promote Miss Earth. That was nice to know.



Dahil jan, follow ko na yan.
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manoypoe wrote:Tita Belay: Yii! Nasa website na ng @missphilearth yung profile pic ng mga delegates ng #MissPhilippinesEarth2021! Kung tama ako ha.. Yung background color ng picture nila yan yung color na napili nila

Alam ko di pa lahat na upload kasi yung iba di ko pa nakita. Hehe..

May nag dm pala sa personal page ko na tigil tigilan ko daw pag popost sa MPE /ME. Kalerkz.. di yata niya knows na kaya nga na push tong page na toh para promote tong pageant na toh.




People can really go so low. Instead of just promoting the pageant they like, they go out of their way to put down another pageant. Feeling ko most of them are pinoy pa. This is really sad.

Did not know that Tita's of pageantry was created to promote Miss Earth. That was nice to know.



Dahil jan, follow ko na yan.


Followed them as well. She also mentioned that it was Angelia that made her follow ME.
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Really like these profile photos uploaded by Miss Earth Crown. You get to appreciate the candidates beauty even more. Can't find it in MPE fb page so I am assuming this is from MEC Team. If so, kudos to them.
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Postby manoypoe » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:52 am

laruuuh wrote:
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laruuuh wrote:
manoypoe wrote:Tita Belay: Yii! Nasa website na ng @missphilearth yung profile pic ng mga delegates ng #MissPhilippinesEarth2021! Kung tama ako ha.. Yung background color ng picture nila yan yung color na napili nila

Alam ko di pa lahat na upload kasi yung iba di ko pa nakita. Hehe..

May nag dm pala sa personal page ko na tigil tigilan ko daw pag popost sa MPE /ME. Kalerkz.. di yata niya knows na kaya nga na push tong page na toh para promote tong pageant na toh.




People can really go so low. Instead of just promoting the pageant they like, they go out of their way to put down another pageant. Feeling ko most of them are pinoy pa. This is really sad.

Did not know that Tita's of pageantry was created to promote Miss Earth. That was nice to know.



Dahil jan, follow ko na yan.


Followed them as well. She also mentioned that it was Angelia that made her follow ME.


Tita Belay clearly stated that several times.
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Postby JustinSky » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:14 am

laruuuh wrote:
manoypoe wrote:Tita Belay: Yii! Nasa website na ng @missphilearth yung profile pic ng mga delegates ng #MissPhilippinesEarth2021! Kung tama ako ha.. Yung background color ng picture nila yan yung color na napili nila

Alam ko di pa lahat na upload kasi yung iba di ko pa nakita. Hehe..

May nag dm pala sa personal page ko na tigil tigilan ko daw pag popost sa MPE /ME. Kalerkz.. di yata niya knows na kaya nga na push tong page na toh para promote tong pageant na toh.




People can really go so low. Instead of just promoting the pageant they like, they go out of their way to put down another pageant. Feeling ko most of them are pinoy pa. This is really sad.

Did not know that Tita's of pageantry was created to promote Miss Earth. That was nice to know.


There are 2 titas in Titas of Pageantry. The Earthling tita is Tita Belay. Most if not all MPE/ME related posts nila galing kay Tita Belay. She was intived to judge a pre pageant event lst year too Tita Lavinia naman parang she is the face of Titas of Pageantry pero she is not into ME.
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manoypoe wrote:Tita Belay: Yii! Nasa website na ng @missphilearth yung profile pic ng mga delegates ng #MissPhilippinesEarth2021! Kung tama ako ha.. Yung background color ng picture nila yan yung color na napili nila

Alam ko di pa lahat na upload kasi yung iba di ko pa nakita. Hehe..

May nag dm pala sa personal page ko na tigil tigilan ko daw pag popost sa MPE /ME. Kalerkz.. di yata niya knows na kaya nga na push tong page na toh para promote tong pageant na toh.




People can really go so low. Instead of just promoting the pageant they like, they go out of their way to put down another pageant. Feeling ko most of them are pinoy pa. This is really sad.

Did not know that Tita's of pageantry was created to promote Miss Earth. That was nice to know.


There are 2 titas in Titas of Pageantry. The Earthling tita is Tita Belay. Most if not all MPE/ME related posts nila galing kay Tita Belay. She was intived to judge a pre pageant event lst year too Tita Lavinia naman parang she is the face of Titas of Pageantry pero she is not into ME.


Ohhh. I remember now. May video si Tita Lavinia nun with Tita Belay and they mentioned that Tita Belay is the one responsible for ME events. Nawala sa isip ko na more than 1 ang handler ng Titas of Pageantry.

I wish Tita Belay will be more visible but she seems shy in front of camera.
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Postby manoypoe » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:53 am

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laruuuh wrote:
manoypoe wrote:Tita Belay: Yii! Nasa website na ng @missphilearth yung profile pic ng mga delegates ng #MissPhilippinesEarth2021! Kung tama ako ha.. Yung background color ng picture nila yan yung color na napili nila

Alam ko di pa lahat na upload kasi yung iba di ko pa nakita. Hehe..

May nag dm pala sa personal page ko na tigil tigilan ko daw pag popost sa MPE /ME. Kalerkz.. di yata niya knows na kaya nga na push tong page na toh para promote tong pageant na toh.




People can really go so low. Instead of just promoting the pageant they like, they go out of their way to put down another pageant. Feeling ko most of them are pinoy pa. This is really sad.

Did not know that Tita's of pageantry was created to promote Miss Earth. That was nice to know.


There are 2 titas in Titas of Pageantry. The Earthling tita is Tita Belay. Most if not all MPE/ME related posts nila galing kay Tita Belay. She was intived to judge a pre pageant event lst year too Tita Lavinia naman parang she is the face of Titas of Pageantry pero she is not into ME.


Ohhh. I remember now. May video si Tita Lavinia nun with Tita Belay and they mentioned that Tita Belay is the one responsible for ME events. Nawala sa isip ko na more than 1 ang handler ng Titas of Pageantry.

I wish Tita Belay will be more visible but she seems shy in front of camera.


I think they have an agreement or arrangment that Tita Belay will be responsible for Miss Earth contents while the rest is for Tita Lavinia. Both loves Miss Earth. It was Tita Lavinia who interviewed Lindsey and dubbed her Pageant Unicorn.

Miss Earth has already started invited pageant bloggers as judges in some activities last year, I hope some of them will sit as judges in the coronation nights.
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2 Miss Philippines Earth contestants say transgender women should not join pageants for 'natural-born women'




Amid ongoing discussions about the inclusion of transgender women in pageants around the world, two contestants of the upcoming Miss Philippines Earth pageant have said that transgender women are not ready to join beauty tilts.

During an online press conference for some of the participants of the Miss Philippines Earth 2021 pageant on Tuesday, June 1, Miss El Nido, Palawan Daena Yapparcon and Miss Caloocan Jeremi Nuqui were asked by a member of the media if they “would be okay with the prospect of competing with transgender women for Miss Philippines Earth.”

Yapparcon said that she believes that beauty pageants celebrate the “natural beauty of women.”

“So, I do believe that it already celebrates the femininity,” she added. “I believe that transgenders should have their own beauty pageants. And it’s because it’s to celebrate their own beauty and to let people know that… to have the respect that they deserve.”

Meanwhile, Nuqui said outright that her answer is “no,” explaining that while she respects transgenders, she also believes that “we need inclusivity.”

"I respect transgender. I respect their community, as their opinion on their selves," she said.

“But I also believe we need inclusivity. You know, Miss Universe, we are celebrating the natural beauty of natural-born women.

“And I believe too that this transgender, they have their own pageants where they can showcase their skills, their talents, their beauty.

“And as long as we respect each other’s values, I think we can have a better world where a war-zone earth can turn into a beautiful and a wonderful one.”

Miss Philippines Earth is a national beauty pageant that sends representatives to the international Miss Earth tilt. Both pageants are owned by Philippine-based Carousel Productions.

Miss Earth is considered by pageant fans as one of the so-called major four international beauty pageants—with the Miss Universe, Miss World, and Miss International pageants.

Miss Universe allows transgender contestants to join. The Miss Universe organization previously barred transgender women from joining the contest. But the ban was lifted after it allowed Jenna Talackova from joining the Miss Universe Canada pageant in 2012.

In 2018, Angela Ponce of Spain became the first transgender woman to compete in the Miss Universe pageant.

Last week Miss South Africa—the franchise that sends delegates to the Miss Universe pageant—announced that it is now open to transgender entrants.

Philstar L!fe has reached out to Miss Philippines Earth regarding their official stance on transgender entrants. We are waiting for their response.

In 2012, following the news of Miss Universe’s lifting the ban on transgender contestants, Miss Earth executives said in an interview that only “naturally born” women should be allowed to join their pageant, at least at that time.

In the same 2012 report, Carousel Productions vice president Peachy Veneracion was quoted as to saying, "I don't think we're ready for that yet."

Carousel Productions CEO Lorraine Schuck added, "We have religions here that are really conservative. We're talking about Moslems, Christians, Catholics. So I don't think it will happen in the near future."
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Postby laruuuh » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:29 pm

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manoypoe wrote:Tita Belay: Yii! Nasa website na ng @missphilearth yung profile pic ng mga delegates ng #MissPhilippinesEarth2021! Kung tama ako ha.. Yung background color ng picture nila yan yung color na napili nila

Alam ko di pa lahat na upload kasi yung iba di ko pa nakita. Hehe..

May nag dm pala sa personal page ko na tigil tigilan ko daw pag popost sa MPE /ME. Kalerkz.. di yata niya knows na kaya nga na push tong page na toh para promote tong pageant na toh.




People can really go so low. Instead of just promoting the pageant they like, they go out of their way to put down another pageant. Feeling ko most of them are pinoy pa. This is really sad.

Did not know that Tita's of pageantry was created to promote Miss Earth. That was nice to know.


There are 2 titas in Titas of Pageantry. The Earthling tita is Tita Belay. Most if not all MPE/ME related posts nila galing kay Tita Belay. She was intived to judge a pre pageant event lst year too Tita Lavinia naman parang she is the face of Titas of Pageantry pero she is not into ME.


Ohhh. I remember now. May video si Tita Lavinia nun with Tita Belay and they mentioned that Tita Belay is the one responsible for ME events. Nawala sa isip ko na more than 1 ang handler ng Titas of Pageantry.

I wish Tita Belay will be more visible but she seems shy in front of camera.


I think they have an agreement or arrangment that Tita Belay will be responsible for Miss Earth contents while the rest is for Tita Lavinia. Both loves Miss Earth. It was Tita Lavinia who interviewed Lindsey and dubbed her Pageant Unicorn.

Miss Earth has already started to invite pageant bloggers as judges in some activities last usr, I hope some of them will sit as judges in the coronation nights.


I'm not sure about Tita Lavinia but Tita Belay sure loves Miss Earth but yes, I remember the Pageant Unicorn Vlog she did.

I think that was the advantage of having virtual pageant. Biggers and vloggers were able to judge even when they are not in the country. I remember The Sovereign. She loved ME 2020 finals and the result.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS PHILIPPINES EARTH 2021

Postby laruuuh » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:31 pm

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Official shots for Miss Philippines Earth, I am your official candidate representing the lovely city of Paranaque.
I’ve been telling myself for the past 4 years, If I’m gonna join a national pageant, it’s gonna be Miss Earth. And here I am Earthlings!
Stay tuned and I hope I can get your support on my journey to try and get the crown.
PS: I was pretty sick when I shot this, I literally came straight from the clinic prior.

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Nakakaloka! Partida may sakit pa Yan during the shoot. :-O
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Re: ROAD TO MISS PHILIPPINES EARTH 2021

Postby manoypoe » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:02 pm

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PARANAQUE CITY
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Official shots for Miss Philippines Earth, I am your official candidate representing the lovely city of Paranaque.
I’ve been telling myself for the past 4 years, If I’m gonna join a national pageant, it’s gonna be Miss Earth. And here I am Earthlings!
Stay tuned and I hope I can get your support on my journey to try and get the crown.
PS: I was pretty sick when I shot this, I literally came straight from the clinic prior.

MUA: @drewgalleguez | Hair: @iconicstarhair
Dentist: @tutanesdental | Fitness coach: @bondsfitness @coachbondph


Nakakaloka! Partida may sakit pa Yan during the shoot. :-O


She must win. She is very beautiful and truly passionate to win Miss Earth. If she wins, she will be very competitive.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS PHILIPPINES EARTH 2021

Postby manoypoe » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:29 pm

This becomes a very hot topic. I love these women for being so brave and not afraid of the backlash from those fighting for their rights but are not tolerating any dissenting opinions. What is your thoughts about this?


Miss EL Nido and Miss Caloocan City were asked if it's okay for them to join a pageant with transwomen as competitors during the virtual @missphilearth 2021 "meet the press event" held Tuesday night, June 1.


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Postby justpassingby » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:36 pm


Adding more fodder to Naelah's current hype train aha :-P

Here's a peak at Naelah's speaking skills:

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link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiMWOsiVedo

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link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7yHkpyt3Vw


She also registers as well-spoken in her intro at the "Colors of the Earth" FB Live event of MPE.


PS: I've been complaining about this for more than a year already but I can't view videos from Youtube whenever they are posted on Misso's forums both on PC and on mobile devices. Is this just a me problem or does anybody else experience this?
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Re: ROAD TO MISS PHILIPPINES EARTH 2021

Postby justpassingby » Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:02 pm

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This becomes a very hot topic. I love these women for being so brave and not afraid of the backlash from those fighting for their rights but are not tolerating any dissenting opinions. What is your thoughts about this?
Miss EL Nido and Miss Caloocan City were asked if it's okay for them to join a pageant with transwomen as competitors during the virtual @missphilearth 2021 "meet the press event" held Tuesday night, June 1.




* sigh *

I was hoping that this would not gain more attention in the forum but I guess it is unavoidable... How timely that it came out now since it is Pride Month


Obviously, I share different values from Manoypoe and the two misses but frankly, I do not mind having transgender women at traditionally cisgender (natural-born) female pageants. I can't presume to understand their experiences as a cisgender man but I understand the angle that some of the transwomen want to be recognized as just women. Period. No more "trans-" prefixes. I personally acknowledge that.

That is why some are really pushing for transwomen inclusion in female pageants instead of setting out separate transgender pageants like Miss Tiffany. And besides, traditionally cisgender female pageants are the big and established ones like Universe, World, Earth, International, etc. that have bigger audiences and wider, distinctive advocacies. It would be more appealing platform compared to the current transgender pageants (but no shade or disrespect meant to the trans pageants though).


Honestly, it would not change much in the pageant anyway. The transwomen and cisgender women will still be judged under the same set of standards and at least for MEO, I don't think they'd give out "token placements" as affirmative action or worse, as controversy fodder just so that the pageant could be talked about.


As for the whole "natural beauty" thing, the term itself is very vague and the argument feels naïve, especially in the context of pageants. Even in ME, there are women who have undergone cosmetic surgery. I remember Olga Alava and Alyz Henrich acknowledge going under the knife in interviews. Did it make them any lesser than who they are? No.


If a deserving transwoman wins ME, I'd follow her. Being trans won't affect her capacity as an Earth Warrior in any way.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS PHILIPPINES EARTH 2021

Postby laruuuh » Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:41 pm

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This becomes a very hot topic. I love these women for being so brave and not afraid of the backlash from those fighting for their rights but are not tolerating any dissenting opinions. What is your thoughts about this?
Miss EL Nido and Miss Caloocan City were asked if it's okay for them to join a pageant with transwomen as competitors during the virtual @missphilearth 2021 "meet the press event" held Tuesday night, June 1.




* sigh *

I was hoping that this would not gain more attention in the forum but I guess it is unavoidable... How timely that it came out now since it is Pride Month


Obviously, I share different values from Manoypoe and the two misses but frankly, I do not mind having transgender women at traditionally cisgender (natural-born) female pageants. I can't presume to understand their experiences as a cisgender man but I understand the angle that some of the transwomen want to be recognized as just women. Period. No more "trans-" prefixes. I personally acknowledge that.

That is why some are really pushing for transwomen inclusion in female pageants instead of setting out separate transgender pageants like Miss Tiffany. And besides, traditionally cisgender female pageants are the big and established ones like Universe, World, Earth, International, etc. that have bigger audiences and wider, distinctive advocacies. It would be more appealing platform compared to the current transgender pageants (but no shade or disrespect meant to the trans pageants though).


Honestly, it would not change much in the pageant anyway. The transwomen and cisgender women will still be judged under the same set of standards and at least for MEO, I don't think they'd give out "token placements" as affirmative action or worse, as controversy fodder just so that the pageant could be talked about.


As for the whole "natural beauty" thing, the term itself is very vague and the argument feels naïve, especially in the context of pageants. Even in ME, there are women who have undergone cosmetic surgery. I remember Olga Alava and Alyz Henrich acknowledge going under the knife in interviews. Did it make them any lesser than who they are? No.


If a deserving transwoman wins ME, I'd follow her. Being trans won't affect her capacity as an Earth Warrior in any way.


As a cisgender female, I honestly don't mind if a legally female transgender woman will compete. I mean, they are legally female so why stop them?

I also agree with justpassingby that I don't think carousel would provide token placements for them. They will be judged the same way. Maybe an advantage would be having "more" story to tell for the interview. Other than that, I don't think they would announce that this candidate is transgender during other preliminaries.

I also understand carousel's stand "maybe not now". Philippines is a very religious country, it will definitely create a backlash.

They said maybe not now in 2012. 9 years have passed. Maybe it has changed.
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