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Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ title

Postby firerprince » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:16 pm

    



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Postby macwendy » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:23 pm

I think you could use that platform to voice your opinion. SO I think she should have done this.

SO there IS a franchise for Miss NZ Universe now? If so who owns it?
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby firerprince » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:35 pm

MY TAKE:


First of all it's her life so let her choices prosper. Her decision is well respected.

HOWEVER

This decision raised a lot of questions/concerns in my head. In the world of pageantry girls would try endlessly just to win their national pageant and be on Miss Universe as long as they are qualified to do so. Some succeeded but mostly didn't. Being a Miss Universe candidate is a once in a lifetime opportunity but to become Miss Universe would be life changing. Her decision, though well respected, feels rather insensitive to those who almost killed (figuratively) themselves trying. Perhaps better if she kept this to herself? Idk. Her flex to decline the Universe-NZ title looked to me as if she's ordering Ph orgs to crown her because she showed this "loyalty" to the country.

Let's be honest here, what are her chances on being our future Miss Universe PH? For me, its slim.
She can be in MI, ME, MGI, MS or even MW representing the Philippines but are those titles bigger than being a Universe candidate? I don't think so.

Her issue on showing her Filipina side won't be ruined by her wearing another sash. The complete opposite, I even think Pinoys would rally so bad for her.

Last one, it seems like her goal is more on being Miss Universe Philippines than being Miss Universe. If she wants the latter more she'd grab this Universe-NZ title without any hesitation. Which brings me to my point, she's questionable for the Universe crown for she wasn't tolerant enough to represent another nation so how much more representing all nations with different cultures, religions, races etc..

All of these seems like she just want to show to herself how Filipina she is. The title of Miss Universe is just a side mission for her.
A goal on finding her true identity not for anything else.







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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:04 pm

In my opinion, she should not decline. She can compete as Miss New Zealand with a Filipina spirit. She could get the best of both worlds. I’m sure Filipinos would be proud of her if she won Miss Universe as Miss New Zealand because after all she has the Filipino blood in her. Hope she considers it again.
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Postby esperasave » Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:54 pm

Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In my opinion, she should not decline. She can compete as Miss New Zealand with a Filipina spirit. She could get the best of both worlds. I’m sure Filipinos would be proud of her if she won Miss Universe as Miss New Zealand because after all she has the Filipino blood in her. Hope she considers it again.


She's a winner this year with a title. She cannot resign. Next year when she's finished with her reign. If she will be offered again. she'll grab it right away.
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby stuff » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:31 pm

Katrina didnt decline Miss Supra US and Filipinos still grabbed her. I also remember fans suggesting Pia to join Miss Universe Germany when she lost to MJ at Binibining Pilipinas.
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby SisterStella » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:47 pm

I actually ADMIRE her principle in life. Whatever we say and think we can NEVER QUESTION what's in her heart. As what VVV said we may say whatever we want to say but she knows what's deep inside her. Actually I don't mind her competing in Miss Universe representing NZ because after all she is partly a Kiwi girl
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby Angela » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:29 pm

esperasave wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In my opinion, she should not decline. She can compete as Miss New Zealand with a Filipina spirit. She could get the best of both worlds. I’m sure Filipinos would be proud of her if she won Miss Universe as Miss New Zealand because after all she has the Filipino blood in her. Hope she considers it again.


She's a winner this year with a title. She cannot resign. Next year when she's finished with her reign. If she will be offered again. she'll grab it right away.


She said that MUPH would support her if she decided to represent NZ at Miss Universe 2021.
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby the critic » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:08 pm

I BET THIS OFFER CAME WITH TAXING CONDITIONS LIKE PAYING THE FRANCHISE FEES, GETTING HERSELF SPONSORS OR PAYING ALL THE EXPENSES REQUIRED FOR TRAINING AND WARDROBE. SHES NOT TELLING THE WHOLE STORY.
BESIDES THAT SHE COULD'VE KEPT THAT TO HERSELF. THAT WHOLE WANTING TO SERVE THE PHILIPPINES IS HER TRYING TO GET BROWNIE POINTS, SHES A BORN AND BRED NEW ZEALANDER WITH A PINOY MOM.
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Postby pacifico falafoxy » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:46 am

She’ll be the next Miss World Philippines 2021.
She’ll win the 2nd MW crown for the Philippines.
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Postby keyss » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:23 am

pacifico falafoxy wrote:She’ll be the next Miss World Philippines 2021.
She’ll win the 2nd MW crown for the Philippines.


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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby Rosa Mystica » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:44 am

Dapat tinanggap niya. Kaya nga siya sumali sa MUP at nag effort ar nagpakahirap ay para to get the Miss Universe crown and then to compete in Israel.

Tapos ayan na ang bigas hinahain na sa harapan mo ng free and effortless, tapos tatanggihan mo pa.

Anyareeee teh, blind patriotism and wrong self righteousness. Anong kabobohan na naman yan,

Eh wala namang kwenta yang Miss Charity crown na nakuha niya sa MUP.

DILAWAN siguro yang si VVV kaya ganyan... Lugaw na lugaw ang peg ehh =;)) =;)) =;))






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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby Mariana Erwin » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:03 am

To be honest, I understand her decision. I think what she wants is to represent the Philippines in the end, and not represent New Zealand. (I actually thought she’s from Australia!). I know that some people want her to represent a country that has only won Miss Universe once but it’s still different and even if she represents New Zealand, it will be the gain of New Zealand and not the Philippines in terms of titles.

I do hope that Miss Universe New Zealand finds a better contestant, preferably if she is Maori (their native Polynesian people).
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Postby artookhey » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:06 am

Ang take ko naman dito, mahina kasi ang NZ sash. For sure magiging clapper lang sia. Sorry d ako fan ni VVV. She’s pretty naman though parang mature or “auntie” type beauty nia pero wag k yan ang mabenta s Miss U sana (pero daPat strong din ang sash factor) kaya naiintindihan ko c auntie
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby Mariana Erwin » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:48 am

pacifico falafoxy wrote:She’ll be the next Miss World Philippines 2021.
She’ll win the 2nd MW crown for the Philippines.
Dear, Miss World Philippines 2021 is already selected! =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%))

Maybe she can try in 2022, given that 2021 has already been selected (and she also competed in Miss Universe Philippines and that she’s also the local “predecessor” of the current Miss Universe Philippines; both of them represented Cebu City).
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Postby Mariana Erwin » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:50 am

stuff wrote:Katrina didnt decline Miss Supra US and Filipinos still grabbed her. I also remember fans suggesting Pia to join Miss Universe Germany when she lost to MJ at Binibining Pilipinas.
And obviously, Katrina wanted to represent the Philippines this time, and Pia did not go for Germany and stayed; Pia eventually became Miss Universe and her efforts paid off. I know that some people are encouraging them to go country-hopping in representing their other halves, but I feel like these girls really want to represent the Philippines and not countries that they are a minority of.
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Postby Prozac » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:44 am

I respect her decision and I admire her loyalty to the Philippines and I don't want to fault her for that.

I just hope she will not regret her decision in the future when her time is ticking and winning a Philippine
sash seemed to be elusive and slippery. Nobody has promised her a rose garden, that she will eventually
be the Philippines flag bearer, and the time to compete in Miss Universe should be now, whether it's New
Zealand or Philippines, it doesn't matter.

Although her decision is admirable I still call it a wasted opportunity. My closest friends call it blind loyalty.
She should have grabbed it, and I really hate seeing her grieved or lament as she battle herself later with the
nagging what-ifs (WHAT IF she accepted NZ invitation, win or loss at least she experiences competing on the
international stage. WHAT IF she uses the New Zealand sash, will her chances of winning be less or more?
WHAT IF she wants to wait, will there be an assurance that she will get the Philippine sash and crown in the
future?)

You see nothing in life is certain. If you ask me I'd rather strike the iron while it is hot. Opportunity knocks
at our door once, and you will never know ..... if you get the same opportunity.
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Postby Declan » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:45 am

I AM ONE OF THOSE WHO DOUBTED HER, THAT SHE IS NOT FILIPINA ENOUGH,

NOW BY DOING THIS SHE PROVED ME WRONG BIG TIME, KUDOS TO HER FOR STAYING WITH THE PHILIPPINES.

SHE SHOULD JOIN MISS WORLD PHILIPPINES NEXT YEAR.


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Postby universus » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:55 am

Mababash lang sya pag sumali sya Miss Universe NZ advocacy nya is preserving Philippine culture and architecture tas Irerepresent nya NZ. Besides even if she places higher against the Philippines in Miss Universe madaming magmamaktol
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Postby johnsenas123 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:28 pm

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MY TAKE:


First of all it's her life so let her choices prosper. Her decision is well respected.

HOWEVER

This decision raised a lot of questions/concerns in my head. In the world of pageantry girls would try endlessly just to win their national pageant and be on Miss Universe as long as they are qualified to do so. Some succeeded but mostly didn't. Being a Miss Universe candidate is a once in a lifetime opportunity but to become Miss Universe would be life changing. Her decision, though well respected, feels rather insensitive to those who almost killed (figuratively) themselves trying. Perhaps better if she kept this to herself? Idk. Her flex to decline the Universe-NZ title looked to me as if she's ordering Ph orgs to crown her because she showed this "loyalty" to the country.

Let's be honest here, what are her chances on being our future Miss Universe PH? For me, its slim.
She can be in MI, ME, MGI, MS or even MW representing the Philippines but are those titles bigger than being a Universe candidate? I don't think so.

Her issue on showing her Filipina side won't be ruined by her wearing another sash. The complete opposite, I even think Pinoys would rally so bad for her.

Last one, it seems like her goal is more on being Miss Universe Philippines than being Miss Universe. If she wants the latter more she'd grab this Universe-NZ title without any hesitation. Which brings me to my point, she's questionable for the Universe crown for she wasn't tolerant enough to represent another nation so how much more representing all nations with different cultures, religions, races etc..

All of these seems like she just want to show to herself how Filipina she is. The title of Miss Universe is just a side mission for her.
A goal on finding her true identity not for anything else.




TONO MO BAKLA NEGATIVE NA. BASHER!
Apparently, she does not think the way you do. That's a good thing! May breeding sya di gaya mo and it shows as she sticks to WHAT she believes in. Di yun grab lang just to represent. More than just epresenting the country, she is REPRESENTING A CAUSE. Do you even know what it is? Malamang hindi. And if sasali sya sa NZ, ano nalang sasabihin ng Miss Universe ORG? Gawa gawa ang cause para lang makasali. To think appointed lang. Anyhow, many appreciate her love for the country. May ilan langaw lang maiingay like you pero let them eat shit.
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Postby poker_man » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:17 am

Wooshoo bumenta na yang statement na yan sa katauhan ni Catriona Gray. Obviously, parinig ni Victoria yan para sa pageant career niya na dapat koronahan siya as a future Pinay titleholder. Convenient kasi sa kanya kasi dyosa ang tingin sa kanya dito. Sa New Zealand e pangkaraniwang nilalang lang ang itsura niya.

Victoria doesn't even speak a local language. Baka nga wala pang gaanong kaibigan yan na lumaki talaga sa Pilipinas. Sinong niloloko niya?

E kung si Catriona nga eh wala namang nagreklamo sa Australia nung nagrerepresent si Cat ng kulturang Pinoy sa mga endless day to day paandar niya e balu-baluktot pa ang dila niya sa pagsasalita ng Filipino at born and raised in Aussieland ang merlat.

Mahina ang sash ng New Zealand kaya no thanks ang Lola mo. Gaya ng pagiging mahina ng sash ng Canada nung nag Miss Universe si Riza Santos nung 2013 at Singapore nung nag represent si Belle Ong last 2020. Gawin niyo silang Philippines juskolord panigurado baka mas nalagpasan pa nila ang placement nina Ariella Arida at Rabiya Mateo.
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Postby kurtij » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:25 am

ONE REASON SHE'D DECLINE IS THAT, SHE MIGHT BE IN A CONTRACT FOR BEING THE MUPH CHARITY.

PLUS. ALL THE EFFORTS SHE PUT INTO THIS ARE FOR THE MISS UNIVERSE PHILIPPINES COMPETITION. IF SHE'LL RELINQUISH THAT TITLE, ALL THE SACRIFICES SHE MADE WILL BE MEANINGLESS.


ITS LIKE NEW ZEALAND WAITED FOR HER TO NOT WIN THE MUPH TITLE THEN OFFER HER OF IT.

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Postby zoey » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:53 am

weird naman kase if she took the offer for a lot of reasons

1.) She already dipped her fingers in the PH pageant scene, if tinanggap nya yung MUNZ na title magmumukha siyang desperada! Madison lang ang peg?

2.) Bea already beat her to the crown tapos magko-compete uli sila for the 2nd time around? Much better siguro if on another year

3.) Something tells me may catch/strings attached yung pag offer sa kanya like she has to pay for all the expenses, heck she might have been asked to pay for the title itself so it's not worth it
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Postby ajsy0203 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:34 am

artookhey wrote:Ang take ko naman dito, mahina kasi ang NZ sash. For sure magiging clapper lang sia. Sorry d ako fan ni VVV. She’s pretty naman though parang mature or “auntie” type beauty nia pero wag k yan ang mabenta s Miss U sana (pero daPat strong din ang sash factor) kaya naiintindihan ko c auntie


Last time New Zealand made the first cut at Miss Universe was in 1992.
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Postby mharlon » Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:57 am

Kudos to VVV for making the right decision...

On the surface, it seems that it's an irresistible offer to be appointed as Miss Universe delegate. However, reading that she consulted friends, families and her team, I think VVV knows that she won't be competing as Miss NZ alone. That she needs a team to work with her. Being in The Camp, most if not all are Filipinos, I think that would be a very compromising and uncomfortable situation she'll be putting her team into if she decided to bring NZ sash...

Making top 3 is in MUPH is an accomplishment in itself. Battling it out with the best girls in the most pageant savvy country is not a walk in the park. So I guess that appealed more to her than being handed down a crown she did not compete to win...
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby jhunz23 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:22 am

Simple,

She is under contract

She could be MUNZ but, may fanbase ba dun?

I-babash lang sya ng mga judgmental pnoys for leaving MUP for MUNZ, alam nyo naman napaka perfect nating mga pinoys, bash kung bash! Tsaraught!
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby TopTgirl » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:18 pm

:)>- SHE WILL REGRET THIS THE REST OF HER LIFE! IT'S ONCE IN A LIFE TIME OPPORTUNITY BEING A miss UNIVERSE [-X IT'S REALLY A BAD DECISION...I WISH NEW ZEALAND WILL FIND A MUCH STRONG CONTENDER TO WIN THE Miss Universe CROWN [-O<
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby ajsy0203 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:39 pm

TopTgirl wrote: :)>- SHE WILL REGRET THIS THE REST OF HER LIFE! IT'S ONCE IN A LIFE TIME OPPORTUNITY BEING A miss UNIVERSE [-X IT'S REALLY A BAD DECISION...I WISH NEW ZEALAND WILL FIND A MUCH STRONG CONTENDER TO WIN THE Miss Universe CROWN [-O<


Victoria Velasquez Vincent would had been Madison Anderson 2.0? And possibly competed against Bea for the 2nd time just for your own pleasure?
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby ajsy0203 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:45 pm

Madison Anderson competed at Miss Florida USA 2019 and she lost. Then she moved to Puerto Rico to compete at Miss Universe Puerto Rico and she won. She later competed and beat would had been her competitor at Miss USA 2019 Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 & finished 1st Runner Up to Zozibini Tunzi.

Remember VVV is under contract with MUP and then you will resign & compete with Bea again at 70th Miss Universe this time with New Zealand sash?
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Re: Victoria Velasquez Vincent declines Miss Universe NZ tit

Postby radagasdas » Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:45 am

Why focus in 1 major pageant? There are other 3 major pageants to choose from. Does she have chances in winning that pageant she loves to represent? As politics always happens in any pageants. What if she failed to win that MUPH crown. At least, she was given herself an opportunity to compete internationally minus that sash factor ekek. Remember, the last Miss Universe winner for NZ was in 1983. Almost 4 decades since winning, their last placement was in 1992 as TOP 10 as of this record. NZ went to black and blank for not placing since then.
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