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Postby jhunz23 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:37 pm

    

I know we hear “Pandemic” reasons left & right
Logistics are harder

Pero nakakadurog puso lang ang Airport as Prelim Stage
As in Bare Airport
Sana may nag design man lang
Kahit platform with kurtina dagdagan ang ilaw
Tapos 3 judges lang for Prelim? Seryoso?! Walang table kasama ng monoblocks chairs nila? Aba tinalo pa sila ni Chef Julia ng MissMundo? Tsarot

Guys I am not a hater

I am certain the national costumes and evening gowns the ladies wore, looked much better in person than on film. the ladies were on point but sadly, production-wise there seems to be something missing, productions lack that super HD gloss, lights, glam quality that enhances details like how MUT shoots their productions. MGI also shoots awesome productions. Nevertheless, i'm sure MUP team did as best as they could given many constraints.

Nalulungkot lang ako sa mga girls, sa teams nila sana mabigyan sila ng better production

Sana makabawi sila sa Finals.


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Postby frog_princess » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:00 pm

I felt okay at first about the fresh take on the preliminary competition, BUT when I saw pictures from the Miss Universe Puerto Rico preliminary competition today, my heart sank because they had such an excellent production. The ladies looked great and everything looked like Miss Universe level! Puerto Rico is a small country compared to the Philippines and they were able to pull it off. I just wish we had a better prelim production.
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Postby mybadname » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:11 pm

Di ba creative director si Jonas? Asan na ung pagiging creative nya? Actually that was my take also. I find it fresh pa nmn na sa airport ang prelims kaso sa malayuan na shot, nababaduyan ako. Ewan ko. Perhaps nasanay lang ako na sa stage ito ginaganap.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:10 pm


Bka naman ayaw pumayag ng airport management na tiltig dito, tiltig doon. Ma deface baka ang mga tiles pati na rin ung ibang fixtures doon. Besides ung main focus talaga eh doon sa mga merlats at di sa kapaligiran. Di ba nominee nga sa best architecture design award ung concourse ng Clark Int'l?
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Postby vinusya » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:01 pm

I think because of restrictions in Philippines that they were not able to decorate the area. We'll they still need to travel the materials from Manila to the location.
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Maybe there is no hardwork, only surgeries ?
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Re: Thoughts on Prelim PRODUCTION of MUP

Postby Prozac » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:16 am

jhunz23 wrote:
I know we hear “Pandemic” reasons left & right
Logistics are harder

Pero nakakadurog puso lang ang Airport as Prelim Stage
As in Bare Airport
Sana may nag design man lang
Kahit platform with kurtina dagdagan ang ilaw
Tapos 3 judges lang for Prelim? Seryoso?! Walang table kasama ng monoblocks chairs nila? Aba tinalo pa sila ni Chef Julia ng MissMundo? Tsarot

Guys I am not a hater

I am certain the national costumes and evening gowns the ladies wore, looked much better in person than on film. the ladies were on point but sadly, production-wise there seems to be something missing, productions lack that super HD gloss, lights, glam quality that enhances details like how MUT shoots their productions. MGI also shoots awesome productions. Nevertheless, i'm sure MUP team did as best as they could given many constraints.

Nalulungkot lang ako sa mga girls, sa teams nila sana mabigyan sila ng better production

Sana makabawi sila sa Finals.


I guess you can't win them all. I still have to see a production that is successful in both departments: in person and
how it was translated into film. Winning the best of both worlds are few and far between.

They are very rare and do not happen very often.
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Postby panchopolo » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:20 am

Thumbs up to MUPh for managing to get a venue that agreed to host such a large gathering of people, and to ferry everyone to such an outstation venue. I'm not in the Philippines, but I'm aware how tough the quarantine situation has been for everyone.

The pandemic war is still raging. Yet I'm given a show to behold, with men and women risking their lives in public exposure. Can't complain.

Looking forward to the finals tomorrow. I've seen photos of a stage being constructed. It does look promising.
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Postby deltaguy » Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:18 am

Maganda ang airport but not as a pageqnt venue. Cguro mganda sya for fashion shows gaya ng ginagawa ng mga big labels such as chanel gucci et al.

Maganda ang facilities ng hilton i wonder bakit lumipat sa airport
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:28 am

panchopolo wrote:Thumbs up to MUPh for managing to get a venue that agreed to host such a large gathering of people, and to ferry everyone to such an outstation venue. I'm not in the Philippines, but I'm aware how tough the quarantine situation has been for everyone.

The pandemic war is still raging. Yet I'm given a show to behold, with men and women risking their lives in public exposure. Can't complain.

Looking forward to the finals tomorrow. I've seen photos of a stage being constructed. It does look promising.


Looking back, I cringed at those negative comments emanating from the putrid mouth of the disgruntled followers, not necessarily fans of MUPh or of these girls, who had a mouthful to say and owing largely to a lack of factual information as to what was planned and later on finalized by the movers-and-shakers within the MUPh Org. Words can hurt. All those baseless speculations and toxic diatribes were documented in print in these pages. And even if those wounds were healed over time, they leave an indelible mark in the consciousness of those who were rendered helpless in the vilification campaign by the crabs who have nothing encouraging to say nor anything to contribute to the effort done by the organizers and the delegates in the midst of this pandemic.
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Postby jhunz23 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:50 am

frog_princess wrote:I felt okay at first about the fresh take on the preliminary competition, BUT when I saw pictures from the Miss Universe Puerto Rico preliminary competition today, my heart sank because they had such an excellent production. The ladies looked great and everything looked like Miss Universe level! Puerto Rico is a small country compared to the Philippines and they were able to pull it off. I just wish we had a better prelim production.


Same sentiment actually.
Yun nga nagpa trigger din sakin.
I saw posts sa MUPuerto Rico.
Kahit hindi maluwang ang stage, gandahan man lang sana ilaw and stage design.
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Postby jhunz23 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:56 am

mybadname wrote:Di ba creative director si Jonas? Asan na ung pagiging creative nya? Actually that was my take also. I find it fresh pa nmn na sa airport ang prelims kaso sa malayuan na shot, nababaduyan ako. Ewan ko. Perhaps nasanay lang ako na sa stage ito ginaganap.


Kala ko dahil sa experience nya last year (Where no Bb. Pilipinas & no Miss World Philippines) he will have an edge to stage his second MUP. Hmmmmm
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Postby jhunz23 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:58 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
Bka naman ayaw pumayag ng airport management na tiltig dito, tiltig doon. Ma deface baka ang mga tiles pati na rin ung ibang fixtures doon. Besides ung main focus talaga eh doon sa mga merlats at di sa kapaligiran. Di ba nominee nga sa best architecture design award ung concourse ng Clark Int'l?



Best design for airport yes
pero naman, pageant to, the prelim videos will be played by the fans over and over, over the years to come, tapos bare airport lang.
Ano man lang lagyan ng ilaw, dagdagan ng prelim judge, daming former queens na pwede mag judge, malapit lang naman Manila sa Clark.

Bawi sana sa pageant night!
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Postby jhunz23 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:00 am

vinusya wrote:I think because of restrictions in Philippines that they were not able to decorate the area. We'll they still need to travel the materials from Manila to the location.


I am sure, they can outsource that sa Pampanga, may mga event companies or even wedding planning coordinators here who can stage who can help.

Kahit table man lang for the judges, ano yun, they are writing the scores sa laps nila?
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Postby jhunz23 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:05 am

deltaguy wrote:Maganda ang airport but not as a pageqnt venue. Cguro mganda sya for fashion shows gaya ng ginagawa ng mga big labels such as chanel gucci et al.

Maganda ang facilities ng hilton i wonder bakit lumipat sa airport


OO nga
May mga malalaking hotels (& Casino) here sa Clark na operating pa
Yes may Hilton here!

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Postby jhunz23 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:08 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
panchopolo wrote:Thumbs up to MUPh for managing to get a venue that agreed to host such a large gathering of people, and to ferry everyone to such an outstation venue. I'm not in the Philippines, but I'm aware how tough the quarantine situation has been for everyone.

The pandemic war is still raging. Yet I'm given a show to behold, with men and women risking their lives in public exposure. Can't complain.

Looking forward to the finals tomorrow. I've seen photos of a stage being constructed. It does look promising.


Looking back, I cringed at those negative comments emanating from the putrid mouth of the disgruntled followers, not necessarily fans of MUPh or of these girls, who had a mouthful to say and owing largely to a lack of factual information as to what was planned and later on finalized by the movers-and-shakers within the MUPh Org. Words can hurt. All those baseless speculations and toxic diatribes were documented in print in these pages. And even if those wounds were healed over time, they leave an indelible mark in the consciousness of those who were rendered helpless in the vilification campaign by the crabs who have nothing encouraging to say nor anything to contribute to the effort done by the organizers and the delegates in the midst of this pandemic.


When you have recognizable Brand
You will have all kind of fans
Hardcore fans or not, MUP is a known brand

Critiques will be left and right, pageant fans or not, that is why you have to production that will please not everybody but at least as many as they could.
Praying sa finals night!
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:22 am

jhunz23 wrote:
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Bka naman ayaw pumayag ng airport management na tiltig dito, tiltig doon. Ma deface baka ang mga tiles pati na rin ung ibang fixtures doon. Besides ung main focus talaga eh doon sa mga merlats at di sa kapaligiran. Di ba nominee nga sa best architecture design award ung concourse ng Clark Int'l?



Best design for airport yes
pero naman, pageant to, the prelim videos will be played by the fans over and over, over the years to come, tapos bare airport lang.
Ano man lang lagyan ng ilaw, dagdagan ng prelim judge, daming former queens na pwede mag judge, malapit lang naman Manila sa Clark.

Bawi sana sa pageant night!


Takes two to tango. I'm sure there was a compromise and I'd say BCDA LIPAD has the upper hand. Nakikisuyo lng ang MUPh di cla ang didikta kung anu ang masusunod. Kung papayagan, one thing will lead to another. ke bago bagong terminal concourse tiltig agad? (I deplaned at Clark Int'l in the final leg of my trip from London via DXB to Cebu Mactan and finally on to Clark.) I gawked at the fine additions to the interior of the terminal having seen and worked for years at what once was touted as the largest airport of its kind in the world. Sayang lng kung mabalahura. Doon na sa finale sana buwawi ibang venue yun!
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Postby alainclintmorales » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:19 am

deltaguy wrote:Maganda ang airport but not as a pageqnt venue. Cguro mganda sya for fashion shows gaya ng ginagawa ng mga big labels such as chanel gucci et al.

Maganda ang facilities ng hilton i wonder bakit lumipat sa airport


It’s Hilton. Baka mahal.
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Postby frog_princess » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:44 am

I think it is really true that they are having financial problems. That is the only reason that I can see why they cannot pull off a great production. I can't help but notice that when they announced their supposed sponsors after the preliminary competition, they were reading most of them as "partners" and not as "sponsors". Despite a number of partners and sponsors, I think the flow of money into the organization is dwindling.
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Postby panchopolo » Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:00 am

frog_princess wrote:I think it is really true that they are having financial problems. That is the only reason that I can see why they cannot pull off a great production. I can't help but notice that when they announced their supposed sponsors after the preliminary competition, they were reading most of them as "partners" and not as "sponsors". Despite a number of partners and sponsors, I think the flow of money into the organization is dwindling.


What do you mean by "great production"?
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Re: Thoughts on Prelim PRODUCTION of MUP

Postby mharlon » Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:44 am

Pros

1. Camera angels are okay, we see drone shots which we don't have last year
2. Using the airport is innovative, not the best venue but not at all bad. I appreciate it allowed girls to have long catwalk area
3. Uniformity of swimsuits, though there were 1-piece and two-piece options it is still cohesive and not all over the place. Also same shoe designs were used by all girls

Cons

1. Entitled fans who can't be pleased

Overall, it was a breath of fresh air conducting the prelims in an unusual venue. I also like the short prelims in hindsight, just seeing the girls' performance. Free from long intro's of thanking sponsors, cheesy production numbers of B-grade music artists and performers. It focused on the girls...

While it is okay to expect pageants a grandeur event, one has to consider the current state. Let's not compare with Puerto Rico and Thailand being able to stage glossy productions. Their governments had better response to the covid, PH don't have - both effective governance and better pandemic response...

Just be thankful you still have content to see, to comment on, to lambast the org etc...
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Postby Virginia Dalisay » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:56 pm

Saan ba gaganapin ang finals at kailan?

Baka naman sa Araneta Cubao? Tsarrrr =;)) =;)) =;))


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Sisigaw yun ng pool party!

Si Paula naman...

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Kamusta na ba ang level ng panlalait ng mga fantard ni aling dyonesa?

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Re: Thoughts on Prelim PRODUCTION of MUP

Postby frog_princess » Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:20 pm

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frog_princess wrote:I think it is really true that they are having financial problems. That is the only reason that I can see why they cannot pull off a great production. I can't help but notice that when they announced their supposed sponsors after the preliminary competition, they were reading most of them as "partners" and not as "sponsors". Despite a number of partners and sponsors, I think the flow of money into the organization is dwindling.


What do you mean by "great production"?


Great production would mean a great show with a great backdrop. A panel of judges. A proper dressing room/waiting area for the ladies. No masking tape-lined runway for the ladies.
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Re: Thoughts on Prelim PRODUCTION of MUP

Postby panchopolo » Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:26 pm

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frog_princess wrote:I think it is really true that they are having financial problems. That is the only reason that I can see why they cannot pull off a great production. I can't help but notice that when they announced their supposed sponsors after the preliminary competition, they were reading most of them as "partners" and not as "sponsors". Despite a number of partners and sponsors, I think the flow of money into the organization is dwindling.


What do you mean by "great production"?


Great production would mean a great show with a great backdrop. A panel of judges. A proper dressing room/waiting area for the ladies. No masking tape-lined runway for the ladies.


Are you really convinced it's possible to do all of those pre-pandemic things at these times, when contractors and suppliers can't even move cargo across towns and cities without having to get the necessary permits?

Moreover, I'm so sure MUPh would have staged this much earlier if the deals with their sponsorship and prize donor partners have been sealed much earlier. Marketing budgets keep getting cut these days--it would have been such a challenge for MUPh's sales team to close deals much earlier. It's to our advantage that GMA and ABS-CBN managed to agree to something whose ROI remains questionable during the pandemic season. That's big moolah coming in.
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Postby frog_princess » Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:38 pm

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panchopolo wrote:
frog_princess wrote:I think it is really true that they are having financial problems. That is the only reason that I can see why they cannot pull off a great production. I can't help but notice that when they announced their supposed sponsors after the preliminary competition, they were reading most of them as "partners" and not as "sponsors". Despite a number of partners and sponsors, I think the flow of money into the organization is dwindling.


What do you mean by "great production"?


Great production would mean a great show with a great backdrop. A panel of judges. A proper dressing room/waiting area for the ladies. No masking tape-lined runway for the ladies.


Are you really convinced it's possible to do all of those pre-pandemic things at these times, when contractors and suppliers can't even move cargo across towns and cities without having to get the necessary permits?

Moreover, I'm so sure MUPh would have staged this much earlier if the deals with their sponsorship and prize donor partners have been sealed much earlier. Marketing budgets keep getting cut these days--it would have been such a challenge for MUPh's sales team to close deals much earlier. It's to our advantage that GMA and ABS-CBN managed to agree to something whose ROI remains questionable during the pandemic season. That's big moolah coming in.


That is why they should do better next year.
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Re: Thoughts on Prelim PRODUCTION of MUP

Postby panchopolo » Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:51 pm

frog_princess wrote:
panchopolo wrote:
frog_princess wrote:
panchopolo wrote:
frog_princess wrote:I think it is really true that they are having financial problems. That is the only reason that I can see why they cannot pull off a great production. I can't help but notice that when they announced their supposed sponsors after the preliminary competition, they were reading most of them as "partners" and not as "sponsors". Despite a number of partners and sponsors, I think the flow of money into the organization is dwindling.


What do you mean by "great production"?


Great production would mean a great show with a great backdrop. A panel of judges. A proper dressing room/waiting area for the ladies. No masking tape-lined runway for the ladies.


Are you really convinced it's possible to do all of those pre-pandemic things at these times, when contractors and suppliers can't even move cargo across towns and cities without having to get the necessary permits?

Moreover, I'm so sure MUPh would have staged this much earlier if the deals with their sponsorship and prize donor partners have been sealed much earlier. Marketing budgets keep getting cut these days--it would have been such a challenge for MUPh's sales team to close deals much earlier. It's to our advantage that GMA and ABS-CBN managed to agree to something whose ROI remains questionable during the pandemic season. That's big moolah coming in.


That is why they should do better next year.

Yup. Let's hope this craziness around the world ends as soon as possible. It's flattening everyone's way forward.
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Re: Thoughts on Prelim PRODUCTION of MUP

Postby panchopolo » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:02 pm

Virginia Dalisay wrote:Saan ba gaganapin ang finals at kailan?

Baka naman sa Araneta Cubao? Tsarrrr =;)) =;)) =;))


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Ano ka ba naman mars! Bukas na po ang finals. Henann Resort Convention Center as Panglao, Bohol.

Check their website: https://www.henann.com/bohol/henannalonabeach/

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Postby koji » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:22 pm

Why are you covering their incompetence that people are pointing out here?
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Re: Thoughts on Prelim PRODUCTION of MUP

Postby Prozac » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:26 pm

mharlon wrote:Pros

1. Camera angels are okay, we see drone shots which we don't have last year
2. Using the airport is innovative, not the best venue but not at all bad. I appreciate it allowed girls to have long catwalk area
3. Uniformity of swimsuits, though there were 1-piece and two-piece options it is still cohesive and not all over the place. Also same shoe designs were used by all girls

Cons

1. Entitled fans who can't be pleased

Overall, it was a breath of fresh air conducting the prelims in an unusual venue. I also like the short prelims in hindsight, just seeing the girls' performance. Free from long intro's of thanking sponsors, cheesy production numbers of B-grade music artists and performers. It focused on the girls...

While it is okay to expect pageants a grandeur event, one has to consider the current state. Let's not compare with Puerto Rico and Thailand being able to stage glossy productions. Their governments had better response to the covid, PH don't have - both effective governance and better pandemic response...

Just be thankful you still have content to see, to comment on, to lambast the org etc...






Using the airport facilities as the venue for MUP's swimwear and gown preliminary competition is the first of its kind,
in Philippine pageantry and whoever concocted this idea is becoming the latest internet pariah and is being castigated
and reduced to smithereens by avid diehards and fans who were not used to this kind of set-up.

Not that I am defending MUP, but I think I saw some readings that this is not the first time this oddball idea was employed.
This is a "minimalist" concept and the idea is to strip everything down (in the airport) to its essential quality and achieve
simplicity. The idea is not completely without ornamentation, and that's the reason why the airport looked too bare for
comfort especially to the fans whose idea of watching this kind of competition is on the stage with plush and showy ornaments,
lighting, and pyrotechnics.

The idea is to use a venue (in this case the airport) and recycle it sans elaborate decorations, trimmings, and garnishing.
Can you imagine if other beauty organizations will follow suit and use open public spaces as their stage like for instance
the San Juanico bridge, the sidewalk of Tondo, or an LRT ride from Recto to Cubao? If I remember it right, I thought
Bb. Pilipinas has already employed this scheme before when beauties paraded their gowns inside the mall using the escalator
as their stage.

Tita Lavinia even added Michael Cors stage his most recent fashion show in the garden, and Jacques Moos the French designer
staged his show at the cornfield complete with a red carpet, and Chanel has already made his own in places unimaginable
and unthinkable.

I don't want to be an apologist for MUP, but with the current pandemic situations, or maybe some time constraints or
budget constraints, or whatever constraints there are, let us give this one to them. We don't know what is going on behind
the scene, and for all it's worth, let's thank them for their effort.

We are here enjoying the comfort of our living rooms, and with popcorn in one hand and a soda on the other, we watch
for the next big thing to happen without knowing how the staff sweats to make both ends meet and how they work their butt
off to give us a good show.
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Postby Virginia Dalisay » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:55 pm

Miss Universe PH 2021 to
have live audience in Bohol.

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Posted at Sep 29 2021 11:58 AM

MANILA -- This year's Miss Universe Philippines (MUP) pageant will have a live audience, organizers announced on Tuesday.

In a Facebook post, MUP said the coronation night at Henann Resort Convention Center in Panglao, Bohol can accommodate 100 guests, with each "gold ticket" priced at P10,000.

Each audience member is required to be fully vaccinated and have negative RT-PCR results.

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The first allowed audience for Miss Universe Philippines! Don't miss the chance to witness the coronation of our new queen live! Book your Gold Tickets now and watch the performances of our phenomenal finalists in the flesh!

Please contact the MUPH ticketing team to book your tickets:
09985636637
09178623645

MUP 2021 is set to be held on September 30, with the pageant to be streamed live on ABS-CBN's virtual venue KTX.

KC Montero will return as host, while Sam Concepcion and Michael Pangilinan will perform at the event.

The winner of MUP 2021 will succeed Rabiya Mateo of Iloilo and represent the Philippines in the 70th Miss Universe in Israel in December.

SOURCE :

https://news.abs-cbn.com/life/09/29/21/ ... e-in-bohol




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