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You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby Prozac » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:31 pm

    

Andrei Sleigh of Miss Supranational has shared enough soundbites and/or ammunition that egged me to start a
new thread for Nawat. It is quite amusing that whatever Nawat says or does, quotable quotes from all sectors
are branching out, like a little tree trying to spread himself so wide.

And this is how it all started c/o geeyourhair report:

Nawat.tv: I am very wonder Miss SupraEarthquake, who will crowned?

And then Angkol's Manager Coco seconded: I can't hear clearly what she said...Supermarketnational??? What did
she buy? Who is she?

And then Andrei of Supra responded a cryptic message: You can't put a crown on a clown and expect a King.

What does Andrei Sleigh mean when he said that? Simply put, he meant:
1. Nawat for years now have been able to look at pageant fans squarely in the eye and say ‘we guarantee
our quality.
2. Andrei may also mean You can put a crown on Nawat being a clown, but that doesn’t make him a king.
3. It can also be interpreted this way. “You can’t place a crown on the head of a clown and then hope he
turns out to be a king.”
4. “You cant put a Crown on A Clown & expect Coco to behave like a Queen

Entitlement only leads to disappointment because you can’t never hang on too long to anything. They’ve
given Nawat a microphone and a song to sing. He’s saying big old words, and he doesn’t know what they mean.
You can’t place a crown on the head of a clown and then hope he turns out to be a king.


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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby Geeyourhair » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:35 am

Prozac wrote: You can't put a crown on a clown and expect a King.

What does Andrei Sleigh mean when he said that? Simply put, he meant:
1. Nawat for years now have been able to look at pageant fans squarely in the eye and say ‘we guarantee
our quality.
2. Andrei may also mean You can put a crown on Nawat being a clown, but that doesn’t make him a king.
3. It can also be interpreted this way. “You can’t place a crown on the head of a clown and then hope he
turns out to be a king.”
4. “You cant put a Crown on A Clown & expect Coco to behave like a Queen

Entitlement only leads to disappointment because you can’t never hang on too long to anything. They’ve
given Nawat a microphone and a song to sing. He’s saying big old words, and he doesn’t know what they mean.
You can’t place a crown on the head of a clown and then hope he turns out to be a king.


Yes, all of the above.
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby quelab22 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:47 am

well what will you expect from Nawat and Coco both are famewhore
enjoy and have fun
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby supladoman » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:24 am

A/l/p/h/a pageants (Miss Universe, MW, MI, ME) are so unbothered with these kinds of things. Between the two, I will choose Supra. Lol
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby Prozac » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:39 am

Geeyourhair wrote:
Prozac wrote: You can't put a crown on a clown and expect a King.

What does Andrei Sleigh mean when he said that? Simply put, he meant:
1. Nawat for years now have been able to look at pageant fans squarely in the eye and say ‘we guarantee
our quality.
2. Andrei may also mean You can put a crown on Nawat being a clown, but that doesn’t make him a king.
3. It can also be interpreted this way. “You can’t place a crown on the head of a clown and then hope he
turns out to be a king.”
4. “You cant put a Crown on A Clown & expect Coco to behave like a Queen

Entitlement only leads to disappointment because you can’t never hang on too long to anything. They’ve
given Nawat a microphone and a song to sing. He’s saying big old words, and he doesn’t know what they mean.
You can’t place a crown on the head of a clown and then hope he turns out to be a king.


Yes, all of the above.

This is multiple choice and you answered all of the above? Nawat must be doing something so badly that you gave him a perfect score.
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby Mariana Erwin » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:58 am

Exactly. Miss Supranational actually did their best to even improve themselves - I still remember the time when the pageant was considered to be problematic in terms of how it interacted with the pageant world (i.e. this thread in this link: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=185398). However, Miss Supranational grew and improved, and their production is also great!

Unfortunately, the administrators of that pageant is just sowing nothing but war for their laughter and superiority. It's disappointing, and this is why I feel bad for everyone who has even competed there or even became titleholders there. I honestly thought that their pageant was going to be a decent one n their first year but the years have proven that this pageant is not worth even hearing about. The fat-shaming, racism, and jumping-the-shark methods they are doing is not helpful and is very detrimental to their success.
No more bashers in 2022, please.

Also, watch Dani Walker's video to know more on how bashers can kill with their words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbYUDqSC1UM
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby esperasave » Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:21 pm

Andre is the name of my biological brother. Can I call Andrei Sleigh, a Step brother. I never had any half siblings but all are biological ones. Anyway, their world is just too small to do war with each other. Most candidates would cross over to different beauty pageantries. Just like the trainors, handlers, designers, fanatics etc. Our world, rather the universe is just so small in the pageantries.
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby riverrobles » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:38 pm

Tell me you are a minor pageant without saying you are a minor pageant.

The tit-for-tat between the two just shows they are not Big Four.

Look how quiet Miss Universe, MW, MI and ME are, the CEO or founder won't stoop that low and engage. Andrei don't engage with a pageant or CEO who is fetching for validation. You just make them look important.

Do not get me wrong, I am pro-business and that just means the more pageanst the better. The more opportunities to ladies and countries that profits from the pageant industry (e.g. USA, Philippines, Venezuela, Colombia, Puerto Rico, Mexico, etc). I can be critical to any of the Big 5 or any pageant if I see something that can still be fixed.

We should know by now that Miss Gr@nd International Organization works in a way by making fire, starting one and flaming it to the max. If you've been always saying Miss World is a cooking show, how come until today, as a pageant fan, as a collective, no one had been successful in stopping a candidate to join a pageant you call a cooking show. Its the same with Miss Gr@nd International, they are fetching attention for years, don't give that power to them, blessed are those who wield moral ascendancy.
The best thing is not to engage , do the silent treatment like the other Big 5 . The problem with most of us you still engage with people you hate, still visist and view their page , IG, FB and Youtube, then you will be enraged by what you hear and see.

Please, the world needs to conserve energy, use that energy to something that will at least be used for good. In turn if that energy is passed-off, it started from a good place and not from negativity. By engaging with people and pageant organizations you hate, you just validate their existence and then the more they get famous or nototious, the more they profit, the more they get known.
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby sleuth08 » Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:35 am

NOTICE HOW MANY TIMES THE CLOWN PUT DOWN MISS UNIVERSE, MISS WORLD, MISS EARTH AND MISS INTERNATIONAL AND THEY NEVER RECEIVE ANY RESPONSE FROM THESE 4 PAGEANT, IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE THE BEST, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE BOTHERED BY OTHERS TRYING TO BE THE BEST. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PUT OTHERS DOWN TO BE THE BEST
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby Prozac » Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:45 pm

riverrobles wrote:Tell me you are a minor pageant without saying you are a minor pageant.

The tit-for-tat between the two just shows they are not Big Four.

Look how quiet Miss Universe, MW, MI and ME are, the CEO or founder won't stoop that low and engage. Andrei don't engage with a pageant or CEO who is fetching for validation. You just make them look important.

Do not get me wrong, I am pro-business and that just means the more pageanst the better. The more opportunities to ladies and countries that profits from the pageant industry (e.g. USA, Philippines, Venezuela, Colombia, Puerto Rico, Mexico, etc). I can be critical to any of the Big 5 or any pageant if I see something that can still be fixed.

We should know by now that Miss Gr@nd International Organization works in a way by making fire, starting one and flaming it to the max. If you've been always saying Miss World is a cooking show, how come until today, as a pageant fan, as a collective, no one had been successful in stopping a candidate to join a pageant you call a cooking show. Its the same with Miss Gr@nd International, they are fetching attention for years, don't give that power to them, blessed are those who wield moral ascendancy.
The best thing is not to engage , do the silent treatment like the other Big 5 . The problem with most of us you still engage with people you hate, still visist and view their page , IG, FB and Youtube, then you will be enraged by what you hear and see.

Please, the world needs to conserve energy, use that energy to something that will at least be used for good. In turn if that energy is passed-off, it started from a good place and not from negativity. By engaging with people and pageant organizations you hate, you just validate their existence and then the more they get famous or nototious, the more they profit, the more they get known.


GOOD ADVICE ... BUT IT IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE ... we promise one day that we will stop, only to find ourselves
lured back to Nawat's lap. Or was it Nawat's trap?


Can Misso members quit Nawat? Why is it hard for them to quit Nawat? Why does their Nawat's obsession relapse when they
try to quit? Do Nawat's addicted smokers unable to thwart the irresistible cravings of Nawat? Why would they follow/react
to Nawat's inane provocations knowing it can put them in a state of disequilibrium? The evidence reviewed here seems most
consistent with the view that Nawat's sycophants retain control over their actions but cannot easily stop having frequent
desires to get a dose of Nawat.

Nawat is addictive. The core issue here is voluntary control of behavior: Do Nawat puffers lose voluntary control of
their behavior insofar as they become addicted? Or do they remain responsible and in control, simply choosing to
pursue the pleasures and satisfactions associated with Nawat?

Nawat has already toasted us, I included. I already promised myself that I will ignore him and stay away from him for
good but here I am making a thread for him.


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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby Prozac » Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:41 pm


MUST SEE VIDEO

YouTube popular and articulate Cuban blogger Luis Portelles summarizes it all when he shared his opinion
about this latest brouhaha about Nawat shading Miss Earth and Miss Supranational. Even the infamous Thai ex-winner
Coco also did not escape the scrutiny of his eagle-eyed analysis.

Let Luis do the talking ... and for all it's worth ... I agree with him 100 percent. Here's the link of the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDPEQbMCuSc
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby Handsama » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:35 pm

Prozac wrote:
MUST SEE VIDEO

YouTube popular and articulate Cuban blogger Luis Portelles summarizes it all when he shared his opinion
about this latest brouhaha about Nawat shading Miss Earth and Miss Supranational. Even the infamous Thai ex-winner
Coco also did not escape the scrutiny of his eagle-eyed analysis.

Let Luis do the talking ... and for all it's worth ... I agree with him 100 percent. Here's the link of the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDPEQbMCuSc


It’s refreshing to see a Latin blogger tell it as it is. I liked when he described a real pageant as having ‘soul’ which sadly the self proclaimed number one pageant in the world sorely lacks.
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby ClubEarthMisso » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:51 am

Yeah its refreshing to see a Latin blogger pro Miss Earth there's another one from Venezuela I forgot the name of his page. He interviewed Lindsey Coffey.
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby kurtij » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:41 am

WE MUST CHALLENGE MGI TO PROVE IT IS GRAND, AND IS ABOVE THE REST.

1. CUT TIES WITH PAGEANT PORTALS. BEING GRAND ITSELF CAN MAKE IT WELL KNOWN AND BEST.

2. SHOULDER ALL THE COSTS FOR THE GIRLS STARTING IN THE NATIONALS. GOWNS, TRAININGS, ACCOMMODATIONS, AIRFARE, NATIONAL COSTUMES, MISCELLANEOUS.

3. NO PAID VOTING, NO SOCIAL MEDIA LIKES, NO YOUTUBE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO VOTE. OR SIMPLY, GET RID OF USING SOCIAL MEDIA IN GENERAL.

4. EACH EDITION MUST BE HELD IN DIFFERENT COUNTRY. EVENT MUST BE BIGGER THAN THE OLYMPICS. INTENDED STADIUM MUST BE BUILT FOR IT.

5. NOT COLLECTING FRANCHISE FEES.

6. AN AUTHENTIC GOLD CROWN MUST BE GIVEN AND TAKEN HOME BY THE WINNER EACH YEAR. IT SHOULDNT BE PASSED ON. UNIQUE DESIGN EAHCH YEAR.

7. WINNER MUST TRAVEL TO ALL COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES.

8. WINNER MUST BE AWARDED WITH $1TRIILLION CASH AMONG OTHER PRIZES.

9. WINNER MUST LIVE IN A CASTLE FOR MOST TIMES OF THE YEAR.

10. AND MANY OTHERS TO PROVE IT IS GRAND! YOU GOTTA LIVE UP TO IT WHEN YOU CLAIM IT!
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby Jake.Horan » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:15 pm

When you wrestle with a pig you both get dirty, but the pig loves it.

The true great ones don't have to tell us. We already know. The REAL Gs move in silence.
Ignore the attention-craving motherfncker.
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby Prozac » Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:12 am

kurtij wrote:WE MUST CHALLENGE MGI TO PROVE IT IS GRAND, AND IS ABOVE THE REST.

1. CUT TIES WITH PAGEANT PORTALS. BEING GRAND ITSELF CAN MAKE IT WELL KNOWN AND BEST.

2. SHOULDER ALL THE COSTS FOR THE GIRLS STARTING IN THE NATIONALS. GOWNS, TRAININGS, ACCOMMODATIONS, AIRFARE, NATIONAL COSTUMES, MISCELLANEOUS.

3. NO PAID VOTING, NO SOCIAL MEDIA LIKES, NO YOUTUBE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO VOTE. OR SIMPLY, GET RID OF USING SOCIAL MEDIA IN GENERAL.

4. EACH EDITION MUST BE HELD IN DIFFERENT COUNTRY. EVENT MUST BE BIGGER THAN THE OLYMPICS. INTENDED STADIUM MUST BE BUILT FOR IT.

5. NOT COLLECTING FRANCHISE FEES.

6. AN AUTHENTIC GOLD CROWN MUST BE GIVEN AND TAKEN HOME BY THE WINNER EACH YEAR. IT SHOULDNT BE PASSED ON. UNIQUE DESIGN EAHCH YEAR.

7. WINNER MUST TRAVEL TO ALL COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES.

8. WINNER MUST BE AWARDED WITH $1TRIILLION CASH AMONG OTHER PRIZES.

9. WINNER MUST LIVE IN A CASTLE FOR MOST TIMES OF THE YEAR.

10. AND MANY OTHERS TO PROVE IT IS GRAND! YOU GOTTA LIVE UP TO IT WHEN YOU CLAIM IT!


How about these MUSTS: Kurtij I am going to set a bar a little lower so Nawat can have
a breathing space. My standards are a little bit feasible and attainable. We should not shake or sneak up on Nawat like
that, otherwise, we frightened him out of his wits! And there's no more chance for him to prove that Miss Gwand is
really grand.

1. ABC, CBS, and NBC elbowing each other for the right to broadcast

2. Ratings of the show erasing previous records set by the Big Four.

3. The mainstream media are going gaga covering the event.

4. TV ads and sponsorship mushrooming like there's no tomorrow

5. Tourism will boom as all roads point to to one direction - the final night.

6. Rise in hotel occupancy and food business

7. Shrieking fans everywhere

8 Set of judges - the creme de la creme in the showbiz and modeling industry.

9. Pageant venue is standing room only.

10. Makeup and beauty products making a brisk business
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby Mariana Erwin » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:08 am

Prozac wrote:
kurtij wrote:WE MUST CHALLENGE MGI TO PROVE IT IS GRAND, AND IS ABOVE THE REST.

1. CUT TIES WITH PAGEANT PORTALS. BEING GRAND ITSELF CAN MAKE IT WELL KNOWN AND BEST.

2. SHOULDER ALL THE COSTS FOR THE GIRLS STARTING IN THE NATIONALS. GOWNS, TRAININGS, ACCOMMODATIONS, AIRFARE, NATIONAL COSTUMES, MISCELLANEOUS.

3. NO PAID VOTING, NO SOCIAL MEDIA LIKES, NO YOUTUBE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO VOTE. OR SIMPLY, GET RID OF USING SOCIAL MEDIA IN GENERAL.

4. EACH EDITION MUST BE HELD IN DIFFERENT COUNTRY. EVENT MUST BE BIGGER THAN THE OLYMPICS. INTENDED STADIUM MUST BE BUILT FOR IT.

5. NOT COLLECTING FRANCHISE FEES.

6. AN AUTHENTIC GOLD CROWN MUST BE GIVEN AND TAKEN HOME BY THE WINNER EACH YEAR. IT SHOULDNT BE PASSED ON. UNIQUE DESIGN EAHCH YEAR.

7. WINNER MUST TRAVEL TO ALL COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES.

8. WINNER MUST BE AWARDED WITH $1TRIILLION CASH AMONG OTHER PRIZES.

9. WINNER MUST LIVE IN A CASTLE FOR MOST TIMES OF THE YEAR.

10. AND MANY OTHERS TO PROVE IT IS GRAND! YOU GOTTA LIVE UP TO IT WHEN YOU CLAIM IT!


How about these MUSTS: Kurtij I am going to set a bar a little lower so Nawat can have
a breathing space. My standards are a little bit feasible and attainable. We should not shake or sneak up on Nawat like
that, otherwise, we frightened him out of his wits! And there's no more chance for him to prove that Miss Gwand is
really grand.

1. ABC, CBS, and NBC elbowing each other for the right to broadcast

2. Ratings of the show erasing previous records set by the Big Four.

3. The mainstream media are going gaga covering the event.

4. TV ads and sponsorship mushrooming like there's no tomorrow

5. Tourism will boom as all roads point to to one direction - the final night.

6. Rise in hotel occupancy and food business

7. Shrieking fans everywhere

8 Set of judges - the creme de la creme in the showbiz and modeling industry.

9. Pageant venue is standing room only.

10. Makeup and beauty products making a brisk business
Exactly. If they wanted to be Grand, they should try doing this!
No more bashers in 2022, please.

Also, watch Dani Walker's video to know more on how bashers can kill with their words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbYUDqSC1UM
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Re: You Can't Put a Crown On A Clown And Expect a King

Postby kurtij » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:41 am

Prozac wrote:
kurtij wrote:WE MUST CHALLENGE MGI TO PROVE IT IS GRAND, AND IS ABOVE THE REST.

1. CUT TIES WITH PAGEANT PORTALS. BEING GRAND ITSELF CAN MAKE IT WELL KNOWN AND BEST.

2. SHOULDER ALL THE COSTS FOR THE GIRLS STARTING IN THE NATIONALS. GOWNS, TRAININGS, ACCOMMODATIONS, AIRFARE, NATIONAL COSTUMES, MISCELLANEOUS.

3. NO PAID VOTING, NO SOCIAL MEDIA LIKES, NO YOUTUBE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO VOTE. OR SIMPLY, GET RID OF USING SOCIAL MEDIA IN GENERAL.

4. EACH EDITION MUST BE HELD IN DIFFERENT COUNTRY. EVENT MUST BE BIGGER THAN THE OLYMPICS. INTENDED STADIUM MUST BE BUILT FOR IT.

5. NOT COLLECTING FRANCHISE FEES.

6. AN AUTHENTIC GOLD CROWN MUST BE GIVEN AND TAKEN HOME BY THE WINNER EACH YEAR. IT SHOULDNT BE PASSED ON. UNIQUE DESIGN EAHCH YEAR.

7. WINNER MUST TRAVEL TO ALL COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES.

8. WINNER MUST BE AWARDED WITH $1TRIILLION CASH AMONG OTHER PRIZES.

9. WINNER MUST LIVE IN A CASTLE FOR MOST TIMES OF THE YEAR.

10. AND MANY OTHERS TO PROVE IT IS GRAND! YOU GOTTA LIVE UP TO IT WHEN YOU CLAIM IT!


How about these MUSTS: Kurtij I am going to set a bar a little lower so Nawat can have
a breathing space. My standards are a little bit feasible and attainable. We should not shake or sneak up on Nawat like
that, otherwise, we frightened him out of his wits! And there's no more chance for him to prove that Miss Gwand is
really grand.

1. ABC, CBS, and NBC elbowing each other for the right to broadcast

2. Ratings of the show erasing previous records set by the Big Four.

3. The mainstream media are going gaga covering the event.

4. TV ads and sponsorship mushrooming like there's no tomorrow

5. Tourism will boom as all roads point to to one direction - the final night.

6. Rise in hotel occupancy and food business

7. Shrieking fans everywhere

8 Set of judges - the creme de la creme in the showbiz and modeling industry.

9. Pageant venue is standing room only.

10. Makeup and beauty products making a brisk business


All of these can challenge how Grand MGI really is.
Since it is stepping on all other pageants, they gotta prove it through these ways.
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