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Why can a Latina win, and Asian can not.

Postby moschino8 » Tue May 18, 2021 2:10 am

    

Just an observation, among all the winners Latina's can win by speaking Spanish but Asians have not won by speaking their native tongue. Except Riyo Mori, I guess. Usually, the Asians speak English to clinch the crown. Just a coincidence?


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Postby esperasave » Tue May 18, 2021 2:14 am

moschino8 wrote:Just an observation, among all the winners Latina's can win by speaking Spanish but Asians have not won by speaking their native tongue. Except Riyo Mori, I guess. Usually, the Asians speak English to clinch the crown. Just a coincidence?



America is full of Hispanic influences.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue May 18, 2021 3:03 am

Mizzyshay12 wrote:BECAUSE ASIAN LANGUAGESDONT SOUND SEXY AND SPANISH DOES. THE WORST ASIAN LANGUAGE IS FILIPINO


Due to your unabated hatred against the toxic Pinoy fans, you are exposing your ignorant self quite too clearly and very often in these pages. Spanish is still spoken in some closed buena circles in the Philippines esp in the provinces of Cebu and Iloilo, in the Southern regions of the country. In the island of Mindanao, Chavacano (pidgin Spanish) is still spoken by the native populace in Zamboanga, even by the lesser educated ones. Ilongo or Hiligaynon is spiced handsomely with Spanish, about 20% of the native dialect is fluid with Spanish words. My own grandparents conversed in Spanish often more than necessary and I'm a witness to that grandiosity while growing up. In university, we had Spanish subjects then, all 24 units to complete the requirements for a 4-year degree course. So please, don't hate without finding any true reason because in the process, your hatred and envy cloud your mind.

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Postby goddessoxana27 » Tue May 18, 2021 3:07 am

Mizzyshay12 wrote:BECAUSE ASIAN LANGUAGESDONT SOUND SEXY AND SPANISH DOES. THE WORST ASIAN LANGUAGE IS FILIPINO


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Postby Kukay » Tue May 18, 2021 3:13 am

Mizzyshay12 wrote:BECAUSE ASIAN LANGUAGESDONT SOUND SEXY AND SPANISH DOES. THE WORST ASIAN LANGUAGE IS FILIPINO


Many Americans actually don’t consider Filipinos as Asians but Pacific Islanders ... believe it or not .

When Americans think of Asians ... they think of chinky eyed people .

Filipinos look more like the Hawaiians , Guamanians etc
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Postby fermnedoza » Tue May 18, 2021 3:16 am

Mizzyshay12 wrote:BECAUSE ASIAN LANGUAGESDONT SOUND SEXY AND SPANISH DOES. THE WORST ASIAN LANGUAGE IS FILIPINO



And to think that Filipino language is in fact more of a latinized language with much of it's vocabulary borrowed from Spanish! You' re joking right?
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Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Tue May 18, 2021 3:28 am

Kukay wrote:
Mizzyshay12 wrote:BECAUSE ASIAN LANGUAGESDONT SOUND SEXY AND SPANISH DOES. THE WORST ASIAN LANGUAGE IS FILIPINO


Many Americans actually don’t consider Filipinos as Asians but Pacific Islanders ... believe it or not .

When Americans think of Asians ... they think of chinky eyed people .

Filipinos look more like the Hawaiians , Guamanians etc


YES, I AGREE.
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Postby fermnedoza » Tue May 18, 2021 3:28 am

Kukay wrote:
Mizzyshay12 wrote:BECAUSE ASIAN LANGUAGESDONT SOUND SEXY AND SPANISH DOES. THE WORST ASIAN LANGUAGE IS FILIPINO


Many Americans actually don’t consider Filipinos as Asians but Pacific Islanders ... believe it or not .

When Americans think of Asians ... they think of chinky eyed people .

Filipinos look more like the Hawaiians , Guamanians etc


History 101:. Filipinos are among the first migrants in Hawaii and Guam. Guam,. Micronesia, Palau and the Carolines were once part of the Philippines under Spain which explain why a man from Palau took part in the 1st Philippine Assembly or the Malolos Congress. Those Islands were also once part of the Archdioses of Cebu.
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Re: Why can a Latina win, and Asian can not.

Postby Kukay » Tue May 18, 2021 3:48 am

fermnedoza wrote:
Kukay wrote:
Mizzyshay12 wrote:BECAUSE ASIAN LANGUAGESDONT SOUND SEXY AND SPANISH DOES. THE WORST ASIAN LANGUAGE IS FILIPINO


Many Americans actually don’t consider Filipinos as Asians but Pacific Islanders ... believe it or not .

When Americans think of Asians ... they think of chinky eyed people .

Filipinos look more like the Hawaiians , Guamanians etc


History 101:. Filipinos are among the first migrants in Hawaii and Guam. Guam,. Micronesia, Palau and the Carolines were once part of the Philippines under Spain which explain why a man from Palau took part in the 1st Philippine Assembly or the Malolos Congress. Those Islands were also once part of the Archdioses of Cebu.



True .

So many Filipinos in Hawaii , Guam , Fiji etc .

Plus the fact that Philippines is not connected to mainland Asia .
Most Asians are Buddhists .
Philippines is the only predominantly Catholic country in Asia.
In terms of culture , religion and tradition ... Philippines is so different from the rest of Asia.
Sa food lang related ... with rice being the staple food .
Pero spices .. totally different din kasi we have Spanish influence ... yang mga menudo , mechado, relleno etc
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Re: Why can a Latina win, and Asian can not.

Postby moschino8 » Tue May 18, 2021 4:03 am

Mizzyshay12 wrote:BECAUSE ASIAN LANGUAGESDONT SOUND SEXY AND SPANISH DOES. THE WORST ASIAN LANGUAGE IS FILIPINO


your doing the most sis
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Postby aldoteng » Tue May 18, 2021 4:30 am

The Asians who clinched victories were:
Filipinos or Indians - English is their second/first language.
Thais or Japanese - Akiko, Apasra and Riyo spoke with their native tongue. Pornthip doesn't really count since she grew up in the USA.

And there you have it; for a proud pageant region, we don't have much diversity in the origin of our winners yet :)

I think it's more to do with which countries could produce the winners.
I do hope Vietnam/Thailand/Indonesia could produce a winner in my life time speaking in their mother tongue......
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Re: Why can a Latina win, and Asian can not.

Postby Kukay » Tue May 18, 2021 5:04 am

Filipinos simply don’t look like Asians .
Filipinos are not chinky eyed with pale skin .

Filipinos are brown skinned .
Filipinas look like tropical island girls like Hawaiian , Guamanian girls .
Plus the accent ... totally different ... not annoying high pitched Asian accent .
No wonder so many Pinoys work as call center agents ... it’s universally pleasant accent .
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Postby johnsenas123 » Tue May 18, 2021 5:07 am

moschino8 wrote:Just an observation, among all the winners Latina's can win by speaking Spanish but Asians have not won by speaking their native tongue. Except Riyo Mori, I guess. Usually, the Asians speak English to clinch the crown. Just a coincidence?


WELL, MOST OF THE LATINA WINNERS CAN.ACTUALLY SPEAK IN ENGLISH! THEY ARE JUST USING IT TO THEIR ADVANTAGE SO THEY CAN THINK IN BETWEEN TRANSLATION. IT BUYS THEM MORE TIME TO THINK.
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Postby sarahmarrow » Tue May 18, 2021 5:11 am

moschino8 wrote:Just an observation, among all the winners Latina's can win by speaking Spanish but Asians have not won by speaking their native tongue. Except Riyo Mori, I guess. Usually, the Asians speak English to clinch the crown. Just a coincidence?


In my opinion. Riyo won because the MISS UNIVERSE org wants to correct the mistake they've done on the last year edition. Ignoring KURARA CHIBANA.
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Postby Kukay » Tue May 18, 2021 5:14 am

johnsenas123 wrote:
moschino8 wrote:Just an observation, among all the winners Latina's can win by speaking Spanish but Asians have not won by speaking their native tongue. Except Riyo Mori, I guess. Usually, the Asians speak English to clinch the crown. Just a coincidence?


WELL, MOST OF THE LATINA WINNERS CAN.ACTUALLY SPEAK IN ENGLISH! THEY ARE JUST USING IT TO THEIR ADVANTAGE SO THEY CAN THINK IN BETWEEN TRANSLATION. IT BUYS THEM MORE TIME TO THINK.


Makes me think .
Why the hell Irene Esser did not use an interpreter ?
She badly needed it .
She already has the crown in the bag .
Clearly she was the favorite of the judges ... she messed up the Q and A big time and was still able to salvage a 2nd runner up finish .
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Postby AaronICK » Tue May 18, 2021 6:56 am

It's in the content, baby.

Philippines doesn't need an interpreter. So they can very well answer in English. NO issue about that. But it's not because Pinay candidates speak English that they won. It's because of the content of their answers that some of them are even considered as ICONIC answers.

Whether you speak using English or your native tongue, if it has substance, "then you can be Miss Universe (Janine Tugonon, 2012)."

And to the one above who said Filipino is the worst Asian language, you are entitled to your own opinion. But FILIPINO won't win as the SEXIEST Asian accent for nothing, according to BIGSEVENTRAVEL.COM. You want the link? Visit here:

https://bigseventravel.com/the-7-sexiest-asian-accents/
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Postby poker_man » Tue May 18, 2021 7:44 am

India and the Philippines set a standard that speaking in English makes you smarter. Since India and the Philippines have won a lot of times in many pageants, it became the norm. To be honest, it shouldn't be the case. Speaking in English does not make you smarter. Miss Universe is not supposed to be a call center. LOL!
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Postby esperasave » Tue May 18, 2021 8:05 am

poker_man wrote:India and the Philippines set a standard that speaking in English makes you smarter. Since India and the Philippines have won a lot of times in many pageants, it became the norm. To be honest, it shouldn't be the case. Speaking in English does not make you smarter. Miss Universe is not supposed to be a call center. LOL!


India didn't imply any personality. She didn't smile, she didn't wave her hands to the audience. She was just there to answer questions but when she falter a bit, there was no saving grace to help her recover. Unlike Miss Mexico, she struggled some but she showed some physical gestures to show her true self to the audience so she connected well.
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Postby esperasave » Tue May 18, 2021 8:50 am

European countries need to actively involved with Miss Universe to connect such as soonsorships or hosting so they are not lagging behind from Latinas, Philippines, Thailand or Indonesia. There is no more Donald Trump to personally connect with you. You, European is your own self now to bridge the gap or else 2 other placements at this years Miss Universe can go to another Latinas next year. Hispanics are everywhere here in the US. They owned this country back to them now. Hispanics had a high turn out at this years comperition. The rest were eaten up alive.
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Postby Audriene » Tue May 18, 2021 6:06 pm

In ciudad de Zamboanga, Southern Philippines, Filipinos speak Spanish creole as their native tongue.
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Postby manoypoe » Tue May 18, 2021 6:13 pm

Mizzyshay12 wrote:BECAUSE ASIAN LANGUAGESDONT SOUND SEXY AND SPANISH DOES. THE WORST ASIAN LANGUAGE IS FILIPINO


I think, you are one the most idiotic persons I have ever encountered here in Misso. :%)) :%))
For your info, Arabs love to talk in Filipino and I have encountered many Arabs who talk in Filipino/Tagalog like they are native speakers as compared to Arabs speaking Hindi, Urdu, etc.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue May 18, 2021 6:28 pm

Audriene wrote:In ciudad de Zamboanga, Southern Philippines, Filipinos speak Spanish creole as their native tongue.


In the early years of the Spanish Inquisition, the oldest university in the whole of Asia, the Royal Pontifical Universidad de Santo Tomas, founded in 1611 by the Order of Preachers (OP), had the Spanish language as the lingua franca in all its collegiate offerings including post graduate studies, both at the Intramuros original campus until it moved to where it now sits at the sprawling Espana campus. Universidad de San Carlos in Cebu dated a little earlier than UST was claimed by many historians as the oldest but the foundation anniversary remains open to debate to this day. Just a bit of trivia.
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Re: Why can a Latina win, and Asian can not.

Postby taleyblue » Wed May 19, 2021 12:49 am

Actually Asian ladies this year are not strong,yes they are gorgeous!the best batch ever! India Thailand Philippines Indonesia Laos Myanmar Camdodia Nepal Singapore Veitnam but to compare with mother Latinas Mexico Puerto Rico Peru Colombia Costa Rica Dominican Republic, they need to be more a mature woman, only Indonesia and India gave me a mature sexy vibes, Myanmar and Cambodia need to tranning more a bit then she might be the most sexiest one! Thailand is the best interm of the body and beauty!she has it to win the crown but she lacks of sexiness and fierceness!yes she improved but still not strong! that's why i can't accept her to be my daughter!also her personality!she lacks charming!India lacks of personality!i never see her laughing!the best personality is Indonesia but she need to fit her body more a bit and Indonesian team need to give her the right styling!also Cambodia got good personality!to all Asian countries we need to looking for a mature women!a boss lady!who is strong inside and has natural charming also fresh personality!MUO is looking for a boss lady who can talk! let's find a good speaker person!but they need to be gorgeous with good body too!!India is the best when it come to com skill that's why she made it to the top5 also she can be fierce and sexy!but she lacks of personality to win the crown!
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Re: Why can a Latina win, and Asian can not.

Postby fermnedoza » Wed May 19, 2021 1:19 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
Audriene wrote:In ciudad de Zamboanga, Southern Philippines, Filipinos speak Spanish creole as their native tongue.


In the early years of the Spanish Inquisition, the oldest university in the whole of Asia, the Royal Pontifical Universidad de Santo Tomas, founded in 1611 by the Order of Preachers (OP), had the Spanish language as the lingua franca in all its collegiate offerings including post graduate studies, both at the Intramuros original campus until it moved to where it now sits at the sprawling Espana campus. Universidad de San Carlos in Cebu dated a little earlier than UST was claimed by many historians as the oldest but the foundation anniversary remains open to debate to this day. Just a bit of trivia.


For the record,. Spanish was once part of our academic curriculum being one of the official languages of the Philippines along with Filipino and English until it cease to be on 1987 ( one bad move by the Philippine Congress).

It' s disappointing that in our attempt to exorcise our colonial past we turned our back to something that could have enriched our culture and connect us to our brothers/sisters in Europe and the Americas.
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Re: Why can a Latina win, and Asian can not.

Postby vinusya » Wed May 19, 2021 8:07 am

If Catriona won. A Miss World top 5, what more if she's a first runner up, right? So that's Miss Universe, they like recycling deserving? ladies?
If everyone can be a beauty queen, what is hardwork?
Maybe there is no hardwork, only surgeries ?
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Re: Why can a Latina win, and Asian can not.

Postby roccor » Sun May 23, 2021 7:41 pm

moschino8 wrote:Just an observation, among all the winners Latina's can win by speaking Spanish but Asians have not won by speaking their native tongue. Except Riyo Mori, I guess. Usually, the Asians speak English to clinch the crown. Just a coincidence?


Better translators? Statistically how many Asians have used their own language in the top 5/3 and lost? Also, when a Latina answers in Spanish, more people in the audience may understand her (depending on whether the candidate is the hosting delegate) than if it was an Asian language.
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