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Pulis Ang Bagong Health Under-Secretary

Postby Prozac » Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:35 pm

    

Some people can't hide their bewilderment when the Marcos administration appointed Camilo Cascolan - one of
the architects behind Oplan Tokhang as the Department of Health Undersecretary. Common sense dictates that
whoever heads a department is well-versed on health issues, its processes, and protocols. Law enforcement skills
are way too different, divergent, and contrasting to heading the nation against the pandemic. Maria Rosario Singh
Vergeire has done a wonderful job, what else does Camilo Cascolan has that she doesn't have?

The appointment of the new health secretary made me think: the WAR on drugs is different from the WAR on Covid
or other deadly plagues. Granted that Camilo Cascolan had a five-star record in law enforcement but one wonders if
another pandemic comes, what will he do knowing his lack of knowledge on virology, mode of transmission, incubation
period, and even just the simple protective gears - he might be groping in the dark.

Will he bury his head on the internet taking a crash course in microbiology, immunology, and the like, while the people
of the Philippines are waiting what is his next move? As they say ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES!


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Postby esperasave » Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:08 pm

SO EVERY FILIPINOS COULD GET A SHOT OF COVID VACCINES FROM AN ADMINISTRATION OF A POLICE FORCE AS SECRETARY OF DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
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Postby ToiletPaper » Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:35 pm

PAG NALAMAN NA MAY VIRUS, TOKHANG KAAGAD! VACCINE SHOT! PAG PUMALAG, CONCENTRATION CAMP! PAG PUMALAG PA RIN, SHOOT TO KILL!
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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Under-Secretary

Postby Prozac » Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:02 am

esperasave wrote:SO EVERY FILIPINOS COULD GET A SHOT OF COVID VACCINES FROM AN ADMINISTRATION OF A POLICE FORCE AS SECRETARY OF DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.


Well, the VP candidate of Isko Moreno ... Dr. Willy Ong is an awesome choice.

Even Rosario Singh Vergeire, being a 24-hour mouthpiece is the last administration is a welcome addition to
BBM's cabinet. All the while the position is reserved for a police officer, whose strong suit maybe is his strong
presence to encourage people to be vaccinated. But not somebody with expertise and know-how in the intricate
nature of the job.

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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Secretary

Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:41 am

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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Secretary

Postby RainBernardi » Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:08 am

wait wait wait....

he is appointed as undersecretary and not as DOH Secretary.
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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Secretary

Postby drake_perez » Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:06 am

LOL. What can you expect? We even have an education secretary who's not an educator. LOL. And a president who's a college dropout. LOL.
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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Secretary

Postby Prozac » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:41 am

drake_perez wrote:LOL. What can you expect? We even have an education secretary who's not an educator. LOL. And a president who's a college dropout. LOL.


While we are at it, why can't the President and the Vice President just be contended with what the people
has voted them for and concentrate on just being president or Vice President? This question is fair ... and
I am not bad-mouthing anybody.

Why do they have to act like juveniles fighting for more positions spreading their wings like a butterfly?
"Akin ang agriculture ... at sayo naman ang education.

I really don't mind kung sa kanila na lahat ... but when the first scandal happened in the Department of
Agriculture under the watch of the president and the first controversy in the Department of Education
was her confidential fund ... ibig sabihin napabayaan ang department kasi president or VP ka na ... may
second job ka pa.

If they will concentrate on their job as the secretary ... baka naman ang trabaho nila as President or VP
ay maapektohan? Just asking?

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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Secretary

Postby Prozac » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:02 am

RainBernardi wrote:wait wait wait....

he is appointed as undersecretary and not as DOH Secretary.


Whether secretary or undersecretary, still you need to have the practical knowledge, expertise,
understanding, and proficiency of the job the president is appointing you for. Hindi young sunggab
lang ng sunggab maging undersecretary ka lang.

in the hospital, can you imagine if the person distributing your medication is a nursing aide? And
surgeons should know their limits. Yes, surgeons operate, but if the case is a cesarean section or
hysterectomy, a neurosurgeon should not touch the patient for obvious reasons.

In the same way, a vulcanizer can not apply for electrician job.


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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Under-Secretary

Postby beautywatchnyc » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:13 am



Re the foregoing comments, a personal opinion stays as a personal opinion no more, no less! The fact is, most other people may have their own opinion about that opinion as well. The original title of the tread itself bares that. Do I see and feel malice of sorts or a subtle manipulation of thought-provoking processes as an enabler in reaching a conclusion on the issue being propounded? My answer is a resounding yes! Unless one has sufficient personal knowledge that fraud was committed or that something goes against professional ethics in the processes involved, then there's enough reason to cast aspersion on something that comes pointedly beyond the purview of the law. But then again, that all depends on which side of the fence one is coming from and/or looking into!
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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Under-Secretary

Postby Prozac » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:28 am

To be fair to Camilo Cascolan this is what he said in TV Patrol about what he can as the Department of Health
Undersecretary. "Administration, management, and strategic planning are my forte. of which I hope will help
the department. My expertise in emergency response, and my network and experience play a great role in
bringing health closer to the people."

"I conceptualize Covid Taskforce and I conceptualize Administrative Support for Covid 19 (ASCOTF) which I
headed and I started the Chemical, radiological, nuclear, and high-yield explosive (CBRNE) simulation exercise
when I was executive director of the Anti-Terrorism Council Program Management Council (ATC- PMC)

However, some congressmen voiced their opinion about the appointment. "Gen Cascolan's appointment is like
a slap in the face of dedicated health practitioners who were bypassed for the position. What is Gen. Cascolan's
qualification for the health portfolio anyway," said ACT Teacher's Representative France Castro.

According to the Alliance of Health Workers, "Cascolan's appointment is a huge insult to our health experts who
are most qualified to administer and run the affairs of DOH."
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:36 am



ACT Rep France Castro you say? Hmmmmn, that certainly leaves a bad taste in the mouth! And the other interested cliques, they might as well have their own specific agenda some of which are diametrically opposed and do not coalesce with the central goal of this present administration. Perhaps, a look into the background of ACT and the so-called AHW will tell you why.
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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Secretary

Postby Prozac » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:57 am

RainBernardi wrote:wait wait wait....

he is appointed as undersecretary and not as DOH Secretary.


ERRATUM!

Thanks for bringing that out. There was some kind of disconnect between the title of this thread and the content.
In the title, I wrote Pulis Ang Bagong Health Secretary. But in the content, I wrote Department of Health Under-
secretary.

I was writing this thread on my way to work and there was no time to proofread it, but I send it anyway. My fault ...
mea culpa. And just to let you know ... I stand corrected and I change the title right away because it is the right
thing to do (after not proofreading it)

There was nothing sinister or evil or malice in correcting the title after finding I made a booboo.


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Postby Prozac » Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:13 pm

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ACT Rep France Castro you say? Hmmmmn, that certainly leaves a bad taste in the mouth! And the other interested cliques, they might as well have their own specific agenda some of which are diametrically opposed and do not coalesce with the central goal of this present administration. Perhaps, a look into the background of ACT and the so-called AHW will tell you why.


It was not what I say, it is what the news item said. I just took the news and include everything in toto. I guess
you might be wondering where I took the news from. Frankly, the only Filipino Channel I have in California is ABS CBN.
No choice.

I included that news item to give us Camilo Cascolan's resume and what we can expect from him as the new health
undersecretary.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:17 pm


Is that so? What about YT, what about google search? SMNI, UNTV, NET25 they're all present in cyber space. They can bring you a balanced perspective if your intention is fair enough. Why ABS-CBN TFC only? This TV station is "revered" not only as a political opposition with an agenda, most if not all their commentators and news anchors are paid lackeys out to destroy and wring havoc to the desired goals of this administration. Sorry to bring this to light: May iba dyan na programme hosts sa ABS CBN na bino BOBO ang Pilipino. Talk about TV prime time programming... in example that "I believe.." thingy of a show. That programme is a classic example of what filth goes in my mind.

Of course you'll reason out that you may not have the time at all. But you do have an option and that in fact broadens your background search and enhances perspective if your purpose is to rely on a tv programming that deserves good to be heard.

Damage was done. I pointed that out in my earlier post. The thread heading itself bears that out ..."Pulis ang itinanghal..." The title bared all. No proofreading could heal what may have gone initially into the readers' mind. Subtle it may appear, the window from which you're looking at things at tells all. A printed word does harm indeed.

Suffice to say, after all that has been said and done, we can give this Coscolan man a chance to prove his worth. It wasn't as if it were a lighting decision made. Endless hours of agony went into the thought process before that selection was outed. Not just by any man. "Presidential prerogative" was how they called it.
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Postby Prozac » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:03 pm

You said it yourself "a personal opinion stays as a personal opinion no more, no less!

And I did expect you would include in your rebuttal SMNI, UNTV, and Net 25, I can almost read your mind. all pro-BBM
leaning stations. Well, I don't frequent those sites just to give a balanced report, because how could it be balanced when
in their opinion BBM can do no wrong? They have canonized him into sainthood - that everything is lily-white. and Marcos
can go to Singapore unnoticed to watch the game, and their defenders will say "oh he needs his rest too. Or worse, he also
had unfinished business in Singapore after his visit. Don't you think hindi pambo-BOBO yan sa Pilipino? No Filipino in his
right mind would think the president is out to attend some Singapore unfinished business ... he was there to enjoy the
game,

If they are really Marcos supporters: how about reminding him, " Mr. President, you are in the public eye. You are like a
fish being watched in the aquarium... Anything you do can easily be magnified if you are not careful and discreet." Not
like the troll who said: : Enjoy ka lang diyan ,,, kami ang bahalang dumepensa sa iyo." Something to that effect.

In the issue of economy, inflation is not BBM related, I say that again. But trolls are moving heaven and earth to distance
BBM from the issue. As I said it is not related to him, part of it was inherited. But the way the station identified with him
and the trolls (defending him 24-7) are behaving, they start to rationalize and get defensive. Defensive kaagad? May
problems na nga ... kailangan pa bang dumistansya? Be man enough to face the problem.

And I had expected you would lambast ABS CBN too and its anchors and complain they are biased. It is your opinion and
maybe it was the same reason I have ... when I avoid their Youtube entries (of the stations you like) in the same way you
avoid ABS CBN for their trash.

I have been telling you before I am not anti-administration. I am a lone person standing kung ano ang tama. I don't have
any party affiliation at masabi kung alin ang tama doon ako. And I am proud of that. I don't have that juvenile attitude
na konting kanti lang sa idolo ninyo, aawayin mo na ang buong mundo maipagtanggol lang siya.

Ang sa akin lang kung may dapat punahin ... e di paalalahanan. Not tolerate, condone and no contradiction. Ano ba yong
konting pitik? It is hard to be in a situation when you think everything is fine and dandy. Pero ang dami palang problema.
And you try to convince yourself na wala, kahit meron ... meron ... meron. Pero tikom ang bibig mo. The problem can't
be also solve also sa pagbulag-bulagan.And hearing no evil is worse - it is like wala kang sariling opinion tapos kung may
narinig kang commentaries sa iba, aba ... you were loaded with opinions ... para lang maipagtanggol si Idol,

Just like what the troll said: Ang sarap ng buhay namin noong Martial Law. Sa inyo wala ... paano naman yong iba. Or
manhid na lang sila dahil hindi naman sila involved. Kung may bagyo ba sa Aparri affected ba ang Jolo? Magreklamo ba
ang Jolo ng bagyo ... eh talaga namang walang bagyo.

The damage has been done. Pati ba naman history papalitan at kinuquestion ang mga historians. This is not about BBM
anymore. This is all about the trolls and partisan stations who have injected their presence into the country's affairs.

Trust has been damaged when you voice out your opinion and then somebody entertains you are in for a sinister plot
and has a vested interest. Trust has been damaged when you try to correct the title of the thread and somebody second
guess you as having some agenda. May nagrereklamo na nga ... wala pa bang gawin? And the damage has been done when
you do the right thing critiquing the powers that be and supporters are too onion skinned and would rather go with the
status quo dahil sarado na ang utak.

This will be my last entry here. I want to give Coscolan the benefit of the doubt but the way I see it, he was appointed
for the wrong job,
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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Under-Secretary

Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:37 am


Then fight the trolls, if there's such an army! And continue acting like you were a judge, jury, and executioner rolled into one, if that pleases you!

A well-intentioned reader has corrected you Prozac. The dirty slip unveiled its filth you had to resort to a damage control measure to ease your cutting out exit. But damage was done. I strongly sensed a malice of sorts there. The (un)smarts slipped ... hence, noticed. Disappointed, yes! but that's fine by me. Nothing you can do to alter what's going inside my mind.

Which history are you talking about? Your side of the story of course -- perchance to the best that you came to know about. But what of the tide of history that multitudes came to know and have witnessed personally as they went through and on with their daily lives? This experience might be wholly different from the one you went through, or were they merely figments of your fertile imagination? I hate to say so.

Tell me: are you going to deny these chapters of "history" as actually lived by those who came before you? Many of those warm bodies are still alive to this day. I've heard them and know some personally! Reason why I don't rely merely on the news per se!

History as it was or will be shall unfold whether or not you will approve of it, Prozac. A new era has begun. More chapters will unveil and shall unfold. A story unfolds today ... it shall form a part of "history" many years tomorrow. And truth shall set us free.

Meantime, the clan that has been demonized for sum of years strings a huge platform, a launching pad so to speak to start cleansing if not eradicate the evils that has plagued their family name for ages on end. Armchair judges like you and me will have a long time waiting. On a personal note, I despise acting like I were a judge, jury and executioner about my comments for reasons that I care about.

To agree to disagree ... you and I can have now. 'Nuff said
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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Secretary

Postby RainBernardi » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:24 am

Prozac wrote:
RainBernardi wrote:wait wait wait....

he is appointed as undersecretary and not as DOH Secretary.


Whether secretary or undersecretary, still you need to have the practical knowledge, expertise,
understanding, and proficiency of the job the president is appointing you for. Hindi young sunggab
lang ng sunggab maging undersecretary ka lang.

in the hospital, can you imagine if the person distributing your medication is a nursing aide? And
surgeons should know their limits. Yes, surgeons operate, but if the case is a cesarean section or
hysterectomy, a neurosurgeon should not touch the patient for obvious reasons.

In the same way, a vulcanizer can not apply for electrician job.




I agree. sorry was not able to add words but it is a disappointment actually that not a health care professional was put in place.
only silver lining is that the DOH secretary is still vacant which we still have high hopes that the president will put the right person.
but surely, like the predecessor- what do we expect?
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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Secretary

Postby Prozac » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:39 am

RainBernardi wrote:
Prozac wrote:
RainBernardi wrote:wait wait wait....

he is appointed as undersecretary and not as DOH Secretary.


Whether secretary or undersecretary, still you need to have the practical knowledge, expertise,
understanding, and proficiency of the job the president is appointing you for. Hindi young sunggab
lang ng sunggab maging undersecretary ka lang.

in the hospital, can you imagine if the person distributing your medication is a nursing aide? And
surgeons should know their limits. Yes, surgeons operate, but if the case is a cesarean section or
hysterectomy, a neurosurgeon should not touch the patient for obvious reasons.

In the same way, a vulcanizer can not apply for electrician job.




I agree. sorry was not able to add words but it is a disappointment actually that not a health care professional was put in place.
only silver lining is that the DOH secretary is still vacant which we still have high hopes that the president will put the right person.
but surely, like the predecessor- what do we expect?


Thank you RainBernardi. I made that ERRATUM because that was the right thing to do. You corrected me because that was also the
right thing to do under the circumstances to avoid more confusion. But the mistake only was in the title when I wrote Pulis Ang Bagong
Health Secretary. But in the content maliwanag pa sa sikat ng araw na undersecretary ang sinulat ko. Anybody who will say otherwise is
lying.

Am I not allowed to make mistakes? Because that's what we are ... being human no matter how careful you are ... we will find our
selves making a mistake one way or another ... whether you like it or not ... sooner if not later.

I thought you were one of those internet snipers who were just waiting in the wings sniffing for blood or mistakes just to score pogi points.
oh boy ... I was wrong. You are indeed a well-intentioned reader correcting mistakes if he sees one ... doing what is best for the greater
good.

Trolls are real, they are not just a figment of imagination. If you are one of those people who don't believe they exist ... THINK AGAIN!
They have moved out of their caves and reside permanently on the internet. Unlike the mythological creatures of Scandinavian folklore,
they are very visible despite being invisible, and dealing with them is not a fun experience.

They post inflammatory, insincere, digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup,
forum, chat room, or blog), with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses or manipulating others
perceptions. And they have the habit to nitpick on typos, tenses, spelling, punctuation mark, and words wrongly used. And
they rub these mistakes in your face with too much gusto. To put it simply a troll is somebody who takes great pleasure in being
an insufferable jerk online.

Trolls have blindness to evidence. You provide them with proof and they manage to twist it and made that proof boomerang to
you. They are spin doctors non-pareil- they spin lies and make facts look like they are not bad after all.

Lastly, I want to thank you also for not jumping to conclusion that I made the corrections right away to make damage control and
have an easy way out. Your heart was not so jaded for not thinking the worst of me. And thank you for not psychoanalyzing me ...
that those Freudian slips are 100% subconsciously motivated with malice in it.
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Sa isang mundo na napakaingay ... maraming opinion ang maririnig mo galing sa mga taong hindi ka kilala pero mabilis maghusga ...
(they even put words in your mouth. That discomfort rises inside when someone imparts their clever wit on you. Not just any kind
of wisdom, but the one that makes you feel small, in a here-you-go, punch-to-the-stomach kind of way) ang mahalaga ay mga
pamilya mo na nakakilala sa totoong pagkatao mo.




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Re: Pulis Ang Bagong Health Under-Secretary

Postby beautywatchnyc » Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:23 am


My last piece on this topic is ayaw ko mag palusot. Any attempt at doing so would only bolster a defensive mode. 'Nuff said!
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Postby Prozac » Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:02 am

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