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Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby blasted20000 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:19 am

    

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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby esperasave » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:40 am

It's not the place to be for a beauty pageant queen because of scandals, dramas and tragedies. Look what happened to the incident involving Alec Baldwin and so as Britney Spears with her Dad. Those people who are there in Hollywood have struggled with so many vices like drugs, divorces, sex etc. To cross over there would be a down grade from being a beauty queen with advocacy and purpose to a person who is crack headed. But still being a beauty queen, you get the vibes and feelings of being in Hollywood because you get to be dressed glamorously and fabulously. Likewise, you get shoulder to shoulder to any famous people in the whole world not just in the film industry. Subsequently, people would still recognize you whenever you go and ask you some pictures and autograph. In short, just like in Hollywood, they want a piece about yourself. You are like a piece or slice of cake, always being wanted and highly desirable because people think you are a gemstone, very precious as Miss Margie Moran have said in her interview. Finally, your Star Quality is the same as in the film industry when people always look up to you in many ways and aspects. However, minus the bad and the ugly but mostly good. On the other hand, the most important lesson we could learn from people in Hollywood is how to manage success on being famous with a career to last for a long time. It is just like any wealth and money, we need to manage those so we don’t end up bankrupt or penniless. That's why we need to maintain a balance life in any spectrum where we can enjoy all the resources that comes in our hands. We need to balance our life in relation to money, time, relationships, sleep and so many others things in the world rather the universe. Just like an octopus, they can handle everything because they have so many hands. That being said, we people we need to grow alot of hands and if possible, so many feet too.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby Mariana Erwin » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:21 pm

You have to understand that Miss Universe isn't a ''Miss Hollywood'' pageant, even if they used to offer scholarships for acting in the past (or even an exclusive one-time only appearance as themselves or other characters in series) for their winners. Even if beauty queens become actresses themselves, this doesn't mean that pageantry is only build for acting. Being a queen means that you are ready to defend people, including yourself, and entering the entertainment industry is just the volition of anyone who wins it, even if it is a common thing that most queens do.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby universus » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:53 pm

Because most winners are not actresses. Also aside from Hollywood being in California and the Miss Universe org being based in New York, I like our queens to stay away from a place where there are lots of pedophiles and sex offenders.

Why struggle in Hollywood if you are already a star in your home country
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby esperasave » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:59 pm

universus wrote:Because most winners are not actresses. Also aside from Hollywood being in California and the Miss Universe org being based in New York, I like our queens to stay away from a place where there are lots of pedophiles and sex offenders.

Why struggle in Hollywood if you are already a star in your home country


It's hard to read a script when you"re struggling with your own accent and lingo. Most beauty queens requires an interpreter and I don't think that they would hire one for you. If you are coming to an English language countries but still you need to acquire that American accent because people you would be working with are American based which is located in Hollywood, CA.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby ajsy0203 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:05 pm

Maybe this a hot discussion because Miss Universe Israel 2004 Gal Gadot is more famous & popular than Miss Universe 2004 winner Jennifer Hawkins despite Jennifer has her own success in native Australia?
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby ajsy0203 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:06 pm

universus wrote:Because most winners are not actresses. Also aside from Hollywood being in California and the Miss Universe org being based in New York, I like our queens to stay away from a place where there are lots of pedophiles and sex offenders.

Why struggle in Hollywood if you are already a star in your home country


But whoever will win Miss USA 2021, she will move to Los Angeles while the winner of Miss Universe 2021 will move to New York for their respective reigns.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby Guuy_15 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:32 pm

Probably many factors to contend with.

There are millions of actors out there who are not known, and sadly won't ever be known.

How many people, who graduate from university with a theater/acting degree, actually make it into Hollywood? At most, they probably make it into their local theater--a "B Movie" if they're lucky or maybe a Hallmark holiday movie.

Same can be said for Victoria Secret models--why haven't many of them broken into hollywood as serious/legitimate actresses instead of making cameo appearances as themselves, saying a line or two, and thats it?

You also have athletes who may "retire" from their profession and also try to break into Hollywood, but very rarely ever do.

Hollywood is its own separate animal that has no rhyme or reason, no clear entrance or exit, and strives at the whim of the average person. We, the masses, keep it alive and moving based on how fickle we are.

So as pretty as Miss Universe may be, and despite her title, she's not universally known. She may very well be a celebrity in her home country, but if you go to Hollywood and ask people what they think about Jennifer Hawkins, people will be like "OMG yeah I love Jennifer Lawrence!"
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby Mariana Erwin » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:43 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:Maybe this a hot discussion because Miss Universe Israel 2004 Gal Gadot is more famous & popular than Miss Universe 2004 winner Jennifer Hawkins despite Jennifer has her own success in native Australia?
Definitely. Well, on the case of Gal, it just proves that you don't need to win the title; being a participant already makes you famous, to begin with. Jennifer Hawkins, being a host and continuing her modelling career, still shows that she is well known in Australia, although she doesn't need to push herself beyond that. It should be up to them.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby kurtij » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:43 pm

It is not a prerequisite to making it in Hollywood.

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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby Mariana Erwin » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:48 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:
universus wrote:Because most winners are not actresses. Also aside from Hollywood being in California and the Miss Universe org being based in New York, I like our queens to stay away from a place where there are lots of pedophiles and sex offenders.

Why struggle in Hollywood if you are already a star in your home country


But whoever will win Miss USA 2021, she will move to Los Angeles while the winner of Miss Universe 2021 will move to New York for their respective reigns.
I think both of their opportunities will still be the same, regardless of where they will reside (although I am not a fan of the MUO spinning off Miss USA and Miss Teen USA). In fact, the MUO was wholly based in California until the Donald moved them to New York (because that is where his tower is).

However, I believe that it will be up to their own volition if they want to become actresses or singers, and they don't need to enter Hollywood to make themselves a part of it. Some are already successful locally in their own country's entertainment industries (e.g. Sushmita Sen, Zuleyka Rivera, and Pia Wurtzbach). It's this expectation that is a bit weird, although it is understandable since the Miss Universe pageant is an American institution.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby universus » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:48 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:
universus wrote:Because most winners are not actresses. Also aside from Hollywood being in California and the Miss Universe org being based in New York, I like our queens to stay away from a place where there are lots of pedophiles and sex offenders.

Why struggle in Hollywood if you are already a star in your home country


But whoever will win Miss USA 2021, she will move to Los Angeles while the winner of Miss Universe 2021 will move to New York for their respective reigns.


Well I hope they don't cast her in a cheap reality show. Many Miss USA state winners gets cast in shows like survivor, amazing race, big brother and bachelor and the producers sometimes f**k them up by making them look shallow. Unless your really great at acting or music or at the very least inclined to it, I suggest girls don't attempt hogging spot light in Hollywood.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby Yna Magenta » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:04 pm

Baka di nila bet mapakilala kay Ate Tina Moran na bff ng mga manyak na produ doon hindi kaya??? >:D<
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby Ian Sebastin » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:56 pm

Because most of them aren’t from America??? What a stupid question.

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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby esperasave » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:13 pm

Guuy_15 wrote:
Probably many factors to contend with.

There are millions of actors out there who are not known, and sadly won't ever be known.

How many people, who graduate from university with a theater/acting degree, actually make it into Hollywood? At most, they probably make it into their local theater--a "B Movie" if they're lucky or maybe a Hallmark holiday movie.

Same can be said for Victoria Secret models--why haven't many of them broken into hollywood as serious/legitimate actresses instead of making cameo appearances as themselves, saying a line or two, and thats it?

You also have athletes who may "retire" from their profession and also try to break into Hollywood, but very rarely ever do.

Hollywood is its own separate animal that has no rhyme or reason, no clear entrance or exit, and strives at the whim of the average person. We, the masses, keep it alive and moving based on how fickle we are.

So as pretty as Miss Universe may be, and despite her title, she's not universally known. She may very well be a celebrity in her home country, but if you go to Hollywood and ask people what they think about Jennifer Hawkins, people will be like "OMG yeah I love Jennifer Lawrence!"


Yes, Miss Universe or Miss World is not tied up to any Hollywood film outfit. It's a separate stage so when you want to break in Hollywood, you are back to zero with talent, connections, manager, agent etc. And first and foremost, you're immigration status should be ironed out because you'll be working in America, you need SS number to be legal working there. It takes time to process it.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby elio » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:24 pm

Hollywood is not a beauty pageant,they don t select the most beautiful,many factors involve.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby hauteegirl » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:40 pm

Ian Sebastin wrote:Because most of them aren’t from America??? What a stupid question.



stupid! several hollywood well known actors are not born in america.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby esperasave » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:35 pm

hauteegirl wrote:
Ian Sebastin wrote:Because most of them aren’t from America??? What a stupid question.



stupid! several hollywood well known actors are not born in america.


Hollywood is a different arena. Even Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan should have been famous in Hollywood long time ago. But, only those that's strong enough to handle the pressure of being famous such as continous scrutinies, scandals, failed marriages and drugs will ever survive Hollywood in one piece. How many famous Hollywood people have died at the height of their careers. So many to count. But being a beauty queen is already a kind of thing like being in Hollywood. The only thing that these beauty queens are so much relevant even after their reign is because they get trainings with their personal bearings and much more about their personality development which would guide them in every aspects of their lives. They dont fall or stumble easily because they learn it from their mentors during their trainings.training. But unfortunately, Hollywood doesn't offer much on how to teach people with personality development but only acting or talent skills.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby fortela » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:32 pm

HOLLYW OOD MOSTLY FOR AMERICANS A ND WHITE PEOPLE ..EVEN AMONGST THEM, VERY FEW WHITES MAKE IT.SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO LOOSE THEIR VIRGINITY JUST TO BE GIVEN A PART IN THE MOVIE.. AND NOW BLACK ACTORS ARE MAKING INROADS INTO HOLLYWO ..VERY FEW ASIANS ACTORS MAKE I IT INTO HOLLYWOOD UNLESS ASIAN COMPANIES SPONSORED THE MOVIES LIKE CRAZY ASIANS..BEAUTY PAGEANTS , ANY COUNTRY CAN JOIN SO WE, AS FANS CAN IDENTIFY WITH MS UNIVERSE...EACH HAVE THEIR OWN SET OF FANS..I REMEMBER THE NAMES OF ALL MISS UNIVERSE BUT CANT REMEMBER THE NAMES OF HOLLYWOOD ACTORS EXCEPT A FEW LIKE BRAD PITT, ANGELINA JOLIE AND SOME OTHERS..A MISS UNIVERSE SHOW GIVES ME ALL THE THRILLS AND EXCITEMENT UNEQUALED EVEN BY ANY BLOCK BUSTER MOVIE... THE ADULATION A MISS UNIVERSE GETS FROM HER HOME OUNTRY IS MORE THAN THAT OF A HOLLYWOOD STAR SO WHY WOULD A GIRL FROM THE PHILIPPINES, FOR EXAMPLE, AIM FOR HOLLYWOOD?
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby kantutay » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:42 pm

Not everyone wants to work in Hollywood. There’s a big world out there
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby poker_man » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:20 am

Americans don't care about pageant girls. Winning Miss Universe doesn't make you an A-list celebrity.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby beautywatchnyc » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:45 am


Since when has a career in Hollywood become the ultimate measure or yardstick of personal success or professional fulfilment for a Ms U titleholder? Please enlighten us.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby Mariana Erwin » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:26 am

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Since when has a career in Hollywood become the ultimate measure or yardstick of personal success or professional fulfilment for a Ms U titleholder? Please enlighten us.
Exactly. Being a part of the entertainment industry isn’t something you expect from Miss Universe all the time, In fact, a more ideal expectation is when they become diplomats. However, some eventually enter their own local entertainment industries and some even become directresses of the pageants they won in.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby XAMURAI » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:42 am

How many Miss Universe winners do we have in history?
69!

How many aspiring Hollywood actresses out there waiting for their turn?
Tens of thousands... every year!

If Hollywood is your goal, don't waste your time, money and energy joining Miss Universe! It won't matter!
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby ajsy0203 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:47 am

Theories about why this question was asked:
1. NBC-Trump era offered a small role in a telenovela
2. TS thinked that Miss Universe is like Miss Chinese International of TVB, when they were offered potential actress or host roles if you made it to the Top 3 but most recent MCI winners & runners-up already left TVB. MCI 2005-1st Runner Up Fala Chen is now starred in Marvel's Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings but she already ended her contract with TVB few years back.
3. Halle Berry, Michelle Yeoh, Gal Gadot, Priyanka Chopra & Ariadna Gutierrez' life in Hollywood and possibly some Latina Beauty queens in Florida
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby Mariana Erwin » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:00 am

ajsy0203 wrote:Theories about why this question was asked:
1. NBC-Trump era offered a small role in a telenovela and also in the past
2. TS thinked that Miss Universe is like Miss Chinese International of TVB, when they were offered potential actress or host roles if you made it to the Top 3 but most recent MCI winners & runners-up already left TVB. MCI 2005-1st Runner Up Fala Chen is now starred in Marvel's Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings but she already ended her contract with TVB few years back.
3. Halle Berry, Michelle Yeoh, Gal Gadot, Priyanka Chopra & Ariadna Gutierrez' life in Hollywood and possibly some Latina Beauty queens in Florida
I would definitely agree with this - even Miss World winners have this expectation and some are successful (e.g. Aishwarya and Priyanka). Although in the case of Miss World, I don't think their fans always expect that to happen; they expect her to land in politics (e.g. Kaiane Aldorino) or continuing with their platforms.

And yes, people have to realize that Miss Universe is not some ''free pass'' to Hollywood, even if they gave film academy scholarships during the time the Donald was ruling. On the case of Miss Teen USA, Shelly Hennig became the most successful when it comes to the ''road to Hollywood'', while Allie LaForce has pursued her career as a journalist and has hosted Miss Teen USA several times (and the recent one was just last year, along with Cheslie). And of course, they don't need to win Miss Universe to enter one - even being a candidate for the title itself can grant fame, such as Gal Gadot - and even being a candidate in the local divisions as well (and Halle Berry is the best example, since she was just the 1st runner-up to Christy Fichtner, although she competed in Miss World later on).
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby esperasave » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:10 pm

But the most successful of them all is MS Lynda Carter, the real Wonder Woman that runs her series for 3 years. So as Dayanara Torres for sometime in the early 2000's. They can be but not long because it's a different arena. In Hollywood, it's not about sisterhood but the challenge to increase the rating.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby esperasave » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:45 pm

Why is Miss Universe Org keeps instigating to Open the Door of Hell for us. They haven't started but just preparing for the next edition in Eliat, Israel however, they're revealing yet another insinuation that they're bringing alot of events in Dead Sea and Red Sea as well. No to anything in DEAD SEA or RED SEA. Que Horror because since the ancient times, in biblical times, there's so many horror stories about those places. Please Stop Miss Universe Org to bring us to Oblivion forever. Holy Toledo, Ohio. Who would have thought that they are not finish yet to torment us all. The competition hasn't started yet. Subsequently, Finals night is happening in December 13 Israel and Philippines time, which is unlucky and unholy number. It's all a slap in the face to each of us by the MUO.
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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby Virginia Dalisay » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:19 pm

Because Beauty Queens are beauty with manners while Hollywood stars are mostly whoresss. :%)) =;)) >:)








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Re: Why can't Ms Universe winners make it in Hollywood?

Postby Prozac » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:08 am

hauteegirl wrote:
Ian Sebastin wrote:Because most of them aren’t from America??? What a stupid question.



stupid! several hollywood well known actors are not born in america.


Most movie stars were raised a world away from the mansions of Beverly Hills and glamorous parties of Tinseltown.

And there are a lot of Hollywood stars (actors and musicians alike who immigrated to the United States and later become
citizens. They relocate to Hollywood California because whether you like it or not, California is the place to be as far as
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