Zingostar wrote:Sorry but the girls of Miss Universe back in the days, the golden days of Miss Universe had such a good time at the pageant compared to today. Filled with fun dance routines, great trips, locations, etc etc. Unlike today when they spend less than a week at the pageant and mostly locked up at some hotel! I would say that the last Miss Universe pageant that maintained a great pre-pageant schedule and had a great production value was Miss Universe 2000.
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beautywatchnyc wrote:
I can speak for myself. The way to enjoy Ms U is to go with its flow, and accept both the old and the new with equanimity. I miss the old Ms U format, but we have to understand what it means to let go of our attachments to prepare ourselves for the changes or additions as they unfold.
Sybarite wrote:The Best Editions of Miss Universe happened under IMG. The 2016 edition in Manila had the best ever pre-pageant activities, the candidates that year were the luckiest batch with so many lavish and exciting events and travels while the 2018 finals in Bangkok was probably the most fabulous show, but the most unforgetable was of course the controversial 2015 edition. People from all over the world even those who were not into pageants and didn't care or even know that there is such a thing as Miss Universe will always remember that year. The IMG Queens are also the most relevant and they are women of substance who are still active in different important causes even after their reign.
esperasave wrote:The edition nowadays in order for a candidate to win has to be smart and intelligent beyond everyone's consciousness and IQ level. The management of MUO today's challenge you to fight not sisterhood as you are assuming. They instigate war, commotion and brings you closer to The Gates of Hell, such as December 13, Dead Sea, Red Sea. That's the reason why when you hear something, say something. When you see something, say something then make some noise.
Zingostar wrote:esperasave wrote:The edition nowadays in order for a candidate to win has to be smart and intelligent beyond everyone's consciousness and IQ level. The management of MUO today's challenge you to fight not sisterhood as you are assuming. They instigate war, commotion and brings you closer to The Gates of Hell, such as December 13, Dead Sea, Red Sea. That's the reason why when you hear something, say something. When you see something, say something then make some noise.
MISS UNIVERSE 2021 COULD HARDLY ANSWER THE FINAL QUESTION.
Zingostar wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
I can speak for myself. The way to enjoy Ms U is to go with its flow, and accept both the old and the new with equanimity. I miss the old Ms U format, but we have to understand what it means to let go of our attachments to prepare ourselves for the changes or additions as they unfold.
There is absolutely no reason that the current org could not have the 1980s format. Its just lazyness.
ajsy0203 wrote:Miss USA is now reduced to 7-10 days of activities rather than 2-3 weeks because most of the girls are professionals and possibly limited work leaves unless if you will win Miss USA crown?
Zingostar wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
I can speak for myself. The way to enjoy Ms U is to go with its flow, and accept both the old and the new with equanimity. I miss the old Ms U format, but we have to understand what it means to let go of our attachments to prepare ourselves for the changes or additions as they unfold.
There is absolutely no reason that the current org could not have the 1980s format. Its just lazyness.
beautywatchnyc wrote:Zingostar wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
I can speak for myself. The way to enjoy Ms U is to go with its flow, and accept both the old and the new with equanimity. I miss the old Ms U format, but we have to understand what it means to let go of our attachments to prepare ourselves for the changes or additions as they unfold.
There is absolutely no reason that the current org could not have the 1980s format. Its just lazyness.
To be blunt about your comment, your wish is not MUO's command. Your ideas may be good, but to them, it's not what you think it was. Your agendum doesn't serve MUO's purpose and the decision isn't for you to make. Who knows they might even have agonized over days and nights about the "older" ways of doing but that alone doesn't suffice. Given MUO/IMG's present circumstance with nothing solid to contribute any which way from where you stand, the organization cannot and shouldn't be dictated upon, I guess.
ajsy0203 wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:Zingostar wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
I can speak for myself. The way to enjoy Ms U is to go with its flow, and accept both the old and the new with equanimity. I miss the old Ms U format, but we have to understand what it means to let go of our attachments to prepare ourselves for the changes or additions as they unfold.
There is absolutely no reason that the current org could not have the 1980s format. Its just lazyness.
To be blunt about your comment, your wish is not MUO's command. Your ideas may be good, but to them, it's not what you think it was. Your agendum doesn't serve MUO's purpose and the decision isn't for you to make. Who knows they might even have agonized over days and nights about the "older" ways of doing but that alone doesn't suffice. Given MUO/IMG's present circumstance with nothing solid to contribute any which way from where you stand, the organization cannot and shouldn't be dictated upon, I guess.
Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
If a contestant complained about fatigue & lack of sleep due to endless rehearsals for the two production dance numbers (opening & pre-evening gown number) on social media then the netizens will blame either MUO for mistreating the girls or the girl itself because she can't handle the job of Miss Universe.
Maybe the additional production number for non-finalists was abolished in 1998 because of too much pressure & fatigue from the girls during rehearsals, instead they are now walking or do simpler dance routine for the swimsuit & evening gown presentation for the non-finalists.
beautywatchnyc wrote:Zingostar wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
I can speak for myself. The way to enjoy Ms U is to go with its flow, and accept both the old and the new with equanimity. I miss the old Ms U format, but we have to understand what it means to let go of our attachments to prepare ourselves for the changes or additions as they unfold.
There is absolutely no reason that the current org could not have the 1980s format. Its just lazyness.
To be blunt about your comment, your wish is not MUO's command. Your ideas may be good, but to them, it's not what you think it was. Your agendum doesn't serve MUO's purpose and the decision isn't for you to make. Who knows they might even have agonized over days and nights about the "older" ways of doing but that alone doesn't suffice. Given MUO/IMG's present circumstance with nothing solid to contribute any which way from where you stand, the organization cannot and shouldn't be dictated upon, I guess.
ajsy0203 wrote:Miss USA is now reduced to 7-10 days of activities rather than 2-3 weeks because most of the girls are professionals and possibly limited work leaves unless if you will win Miss USA crown?
Zingostar wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:Miss USA is now reduced to 7-10 days of activities rather than 2-3 weeks because most of the girls are professionals and possibly limited work leaves unless if you will win Miss USA crown?
Miss USA is these days reduced because of the franchise holders money grabbing mentality. Miss USA in the 90s and before was a high production glamour event. These days the stages are basic and the girls can be happy if they get to leave their hotels one afternoon for some sightseeing
Zingostar wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:Zingostar wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
I can speak for myself. The way to enjoy Ms U is to go with its flow, and accept both the old and the new with equanimity. I miss the old Ms U format, but we have to understand what it means to let go of our attachments to prepare ourselves for the changes or additions as they unfold.
There is absolutely no reason that the current org could not have the 1980s format. Its just lazyness.
To be blunt about your comment, your wish is not MUO's command. Your ideas may be good, but to them, it's not what you think it was. Your agendum doesn't serve MUO's purpose and the decision isn't for you to make. Who knows they might even have agonized over days and nights about the "older" ways of doing but that alone doesn't suffice. Given MUO/IMG's present circumstance with nothing solid to contribute any which way from where you stand, the organization cannot and shouldn't be dictated upon, I guess.
When Trump took over the pageant in 1996, it was every year a top rated event. Highly publicized. Today it is outside the Top10 in ratings, Miss USA is broadcast on some channel without national reach and without high ratings. Miss Universe these days are not an important event outside its fanbase, thanks to the MUO insistence of making the pageant BORING
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