I am very positive that these coming years, Miss Earth will give us truly amazing queens that will forever reign as time goes by.
Whats your opinion about this? Lets be open and lets make this a healthy conversation
Binibining ZOZI wrote:LAST YEAR, MISS EARTH GAVE US THE BEST WINNERS, HOPING CAROUSEL WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS
beautywatchnyc wrote:
"global appeal" is a highly subjective observation and dependent largely on the level of one's perception.
sissymeow wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
"global appeal" is a highly subjective observation and dependent largely on the level of one's perception.
A good point but lets compare this to miss universe. I know these two pageants are totally different but they do have one common thing in selecting their winners, they are looking for spoke person. Miss Universe mostly chooses amazing winners while Miss Earth in the past isnt consistent. One edition they crowned a good speaker but she lacks something, the other edition, they crowned a stunning winner but the communication skill is not that, let say, great. I think judging consistency is the key for Miss Earth to choose someone who is really has that "appeal" for the pageant fans will truly follow.
beautywatchnyc wrote:sissymeow wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
"global appeal" is a highly subjective observation and dependent largely on the level of one's perception.
A good point but lets compare this to miss universe. I know these two pageants are totally different but they do have one common thing in selecting their winners, they are looking for spoke person. Miss Universe mostly chooses amazing winners while Miss Earth in the past isnt consistent. One edition they crowned a good speaker but she lacks something, the other edition, they crowned a stunning winner but the communication skill is not that, let say, great. I think judging consistency is the key for Miss Earth to choose someone who is really has that "appeal" for the pageant fans will truly follow.
"Let's compare" finds no valid common ground. 16 years for ME as against 69 years for Miss Universe spells an enormous difference. Contextualize, if you will. May I suggest you go through the entire post rather than splice in a manner that suit your end. No offense.
artaestes wrote:i think it depends on the judges whereas some are emphasizing more in the beauty department than the intelligent or vice versa...
i think what miss earth lacks is the global appeal,
but when it comes to cause and activities of the girls,
no other international pageants can beat miss earth...
sissymeow wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:sissymeow wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
"global appeal" is a highly subjective observation and dependent largely on the level of one's perception.
A good point but lets compare this to miss universe. I know these two pageants are totally different but they do have one common thing in selecting their winners, they are looking for spoke person. Miss Universe mostly chooses amazing winners while Miss Earth in the past isnt consistent. One edition they crowned a good speaker but she lacks something, the other edition, they crowned a stunning winner but the communication skill is not that, let say, great. I think judging consistency is the key for Miss Earth to choose someone who is really has that "appeal" for the pageant fans will truly follow.
"Let's compare" finds no valid common ground. 16 years for ME as against 69 years for Miss Universe spells an enormous difference. Contextualize, if you will. May I suggest you go through the entire post rather than splice in a manner that suit your end. No offense.
Will the number of years matter? Is that an excuse? Miss Universe in its early years produced amazing winners, why cant Miss Earth be excluded from doing so. May i also suggest you splice your perspective and check the point of this thread. Judging criteria and global appeal. You sound very defensive.
Handsama wrote:Pageantry has become a niche market due to dwindling interest in it. So the idea of a Queen with global appeal just doesn’t apply anymore. Outside of pageantry and some pageant crazy nations, people just don’t care about pageants and their winners anymore.
Now if you mean Queens that appeal to to a broad majority of pageant fans, I don’t think the concept applies anymore either for the simple reason that the fights between fans have become so toxic that people can no longer overcome their biases towards each others’ Queens. And no matter how much Miss Earth distances itself from such petty fights, the pageant and its Queens get dragged anyway because it’s Philippine made and anything associated with Philippine pageantry is heavily frowned upon in some sectors. And these negativities are further exacerbated by Pinoy crabs who like to eat their own.
But whatever fans might think of the Earth Queens, they all won fair and square. They were never chosen to appeal to countries with the noisiest fanbases or wealthiest national organizations as other pageants seem to do where it’s pretty obvious money talks.
And say what you will about these Earth Queens, there’s one thing for sure...these Queens reigned with utmost dignity and left an indelible mark, no matter how small, in our global fight against human suffering and environmental destruction. And some of them are still fighting the fight in some ways. Can you say the same thing about the winners of other pageants? So appeal they might lack as you say but legacy they have plenty of. And I’d rather choose legacy at the end of the day.
mybadname wrote:I don't want to be sound cocky but for me Miss Earth lacks nothing. So are the other pageants. They have their standard and we have to respect it. The problem lies in the fan themselves for they love comparing one pageant to the others.
sissymeow wrote:first of all, i would like to appreciate the changes in Miss Earths judging criteria. In the past years, we've seen Meh winners. What i mean about that is they lack global appeal and their judging process sometimes is a hit or a miss. The winners from latin america are amazing thats for sure however some winners from the Asian continent lacks global appeal. They are for sure good in their respective careers but they are forgettable. I will spare Angelia,Ponkan and Nicole, these beauties are amazing and really stood ground and represented the org very well.
I am very positive that these coming years, Miss Earth will give us truly amazing queens that will forever reign as time goes by.
Whats your opinion about this? Lets be open and lets make this a healthy conversation
Jon A wrote:I think ME will NEVER get the feedback it needs because Earthlings are blindly loyal and will destroy and silence anyone who does not say that ME is the most prestigious, well conducted and relevant contest. It's unfortunate, but that is just the truth. I know that I will be criticized endlessly even for saying this.
poker_man wrote:The Q&A is crap. It's always about the "We should care for Mother Nature" and all those cliché answers. I know it's Miss Earth but there is zero personality in the Q&A for their girls. It's like answering an essay or like having recitation in class.
manoypoe wrote:Jon A wrote:I think ME will NEVER get the feedback it needs because Earthlings are blindly loyal and will destroy and silence anyone who does not say that ME is the most prestigious, well conducted and relevant contest. It's unfortunate, but that is just the truth. I know that I will be criticized endlessly even for saying this.
Dont worry, not all will criticize you. We have already given our feedback and most of them are already taken care of. Carousel listens to us.
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