ajsy0203 wrote:After Madison Anderson beat Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 and finished 1st Runner Up. Do you think more Miss USA state pageant runners-up will move to Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or Guam soon in order to apply for Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Universe USVI or Miss Universe Guam respectively in the near future?
Jim_From_Boston wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:After Madison Anderson beat Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 and finished 1st Runner Up. Do you think more Miss USA state pageant runners-up will move to Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or Guam soon in order to apply for Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Universe USVI or Miss Universe Guam respectively in the near future?
I would believe so, but I don’t think this is anything new. I’m more surprised that PR, USVI and Guam would even allow it. These islands already have their own home-grown beauties. Why they allow women from the US - with barely any connection to the island no less - is beyond me.
soledad wrote:Jim_From_Boston wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:After Madison Anderson beat Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 and finished 1st Runner Up. Do you think more Miss USA state pageant runners-up will move to Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or Guam soon in order to apply for Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Universe USVI or Miss Universe Guam respectively in the near future?
I would believe so, but I don’t think this is anything new. I’m more surprised that PR, USVI and Guam would even allow it. These islands already have their own home-grown beauties. Why they allow women from the US - with barely any connection to the island no less - is beyond me.
At the back of your mind, I know you know the reason why right? Especially the flop's mega powerhouse PR
ajsy0203 wrote:After Madison Anderson beat Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 and finished 1st Runner Up. Do you think more Miss USA state pageant runners-up will move to Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or Guam soon in order to apply for Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Universe USVI or Miss Universe Guam respectively in the near future?
soledad wrote:Jim_From_Boston wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:After Madison Anderson beat Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 and finished 1st Runner Up. Do you think more Miss USA state pageant runners-up will move to Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or Guam soon in order to apply for Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Universe USVI or Miss Universe Guam respectively in the near future?
I would believe so, but I don’t think this is anything new. I’m more surprised that PR, USVI and Guam would even allow it. These islands already have their own home-grown beauties. Why they allow women from the US - with barely any connection to the island no less - is beyond me.
At the back of your mind, I know you know the reason why right? Especially the flop's mega powerhouse PR
Malcanthet wrote:If anything, Madison, a runner up at a state pageant would surpass the actual national titleholder showed that Cheslie was a diversity winner. I didn’t see the hype with her in Miss USA... and many deserving girls, like Texas, were cut out of the top 15.
sleuth08 wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:After Madison Anderson beat Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 and finished 1st Runner Up. Do you think more Miss USA state pageant runners-up will move to Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or Guam soon in order to apply for Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Universe USVI or Miss Universe Guam respectively in the near future?
MAKES ME WONDER IF SHE COPIED MELANIA MADER WHO COMPETED IN MISS PHILIPPINES EARTH FIRST, THEN REPRESENTED AUSTRIA IN MISS EARTH 2018 AND PLACED MISS EARTH-AIR 2018
carlosebastienne wrote:sleuth08 wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:After Madison Anderson beat Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 and finished 1st Runner Up. Do you think more Miss USA state pageant runners-up will move to Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or Guam soon in order to apply for Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Universe USVI or Miss Universe Guam respectively in the near future?
MAKES ME WONDER IF SHE COPIED MELANIA MADER WHO COMPETED IN MISS PHILIPPINES EARTH FIRST, THEN REPRESENTED AUSTRIA IN MISS EARTH 2018 AND PLACED MISS EARTH-AIR 2018
Neither Melania Mader not Maureen Montagne hold a candle to Madison Anderson’s carpetbagging.
Melania lived in the Philippines when she competed in her initial Miss Earth pageant. Her family had moved to Austria and she had become a full-fledged Austrian resident by the time she represented Austria at her succeeding Miss Earth pageant. Miss Earth was her goal from the get-go; nothing malicious nor carpetbagging in that.
Maureen Montagne made up her mind to represent the Philippines, moved to the Philippines, competed for a Philippine crown and represented the Philippines and ended it there.
Madison Anderson, on the other hand, started early and represented Florida as a teen, then took advantage of her Puerto Rican background to represent Puerto Rico at another competition (a modeling competition), didn’t make the cut for Grand USA as a Floridian so exploited her Puerto Rican background again to make it to Miss Gwand International, wasn’t satisfied with that and flip-flopped to Florida to become Miss USA, failed at that and without even finishing her reign as her Florida county’s rep decided to jump ship again to represent Puerto Rico for Miss Universe, totally making a mockery of the Miss USA-Universe system which had selected North Carolina’s Cheslie Kryst to be the official USA representative.
There was never any intent to represent the “best” nor the essence of either Florida or Puerto Rico. It was all about gaming the system for her greedy, personal gain of milking the pageant system for a crown.
Again, neither girl above — nor Miss Universe Ireland 2019 (from Washington DC) or Miss Albania 2019 (from Chicago, IL) — come even remotely close to what Madison Anderson has done. So what’s next for this carpetbagger? Looking for a relative in New York and representing that state (where a lot of Puerto Ricans reside) to become the USA contestant for Miss World?
carlosebastienne wrote:sleuth08 wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:After Madison Anderson beat Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 and finished 1st Runner Up. Do you think more Miss USA state pageant runners-up will move to Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or Guam soon in order to apply for Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Universe USVI or Miss Universe Guam respectively in the near future?
MAKES ME WONDER IF SHE COPIED MELANIA MADER WHO COMPETED IN MISS PHILIPPINES EARTH FIRST, THEN REPRESENTED AUSTRIA IN MISS EARTH 2018 AND PLACED MISS EARTH-AIR 2018
Neither Melania Mader not Maureen Montagne hold a candle to Madison Anderson’s carpetbagging.
Melania lived in the Philippines when she competed in her initial Miss Earth pageant. Her family had moved to Austria and she had become a full-fledged Austrian resident by the time she represented Austria at her succeeding Miss Earth pageant. Miss Earth was her goal from the get-go; nothing malicious nor carpetbagging in that.
Maureen Montagne made up her mind to represent the Philippines, moved to the Philippines, competed for a Philippine crown and represented the Philippines and ended it there.
Madison Anderson, on the other hand, started early and represented Florida as a teen, then took advantage of her Puerto Rican background to represent Puerto Rico at another competition (a modeling competition), didn’t make the cut for Grand USA as a Floridian so exploited her Puerto Rican background again to make it to Miss Gwand International, wasn’t satisfied with that and flip-flopped to Florida to become Miss USA, failed at that and without even finishing her reign as her Florida county’s rep decided to jump ship again to represent Puerto Rico for Miss Universe, totally making a mockery of the Miss USA-Universe system which had selected North Carolina’s Cheslie Kryst to be the official USA representative.
There was never any intent to represent the “best” nor the essence of either Florida or Puerto Rico. It was all about gaming the system for her greedy, personal gain of milking the pageant system for a crown.
Again, neither girl above — nor Miss Universe Ireland 2019 (from Washington DC) or Miss Albania 2019 (from Chicago, IL) — come even remotely close to what Madison Anderson has done. So what’s next for this carpetbagger? Looking for a relative in New York and representing that state (where a lot of Puerto Ricans reside) to become the USA contestant for Miss World?
Queen of the Clouds wrote:No, they won't. Girls with a Puerto Rican background may go to MUPR like Madison did, but girls won't go to Guam or USVI unless they have an actual connection to the islands because those are not powerful sashes and they can do much more as a Miss USA state titleholder than as a Guam or USVI titleholder. PR is even more difficult because of the language barrier. Madison barely spoke Spanish and had such a hard time even though she legitimately is half Puerto Rican, so imagine a non-Puerto Rican girl with no Spanish skills competing there --- no chance. Personally I think all of the territories should just compete in Miss USA though. Puerto Rico competed in Miss America for many years. These are all American girls anyways.
erinarriba wrote:carlosebastienne wrote:sleuth08 wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:After Madison Anderson beat Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 and finished 1st Runner Up. Do you think more Miss USA state pageant runners-up will move to Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or Guam soon in order to apply for Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Universe USVI or Miss Universe Guam respectively in the near future?
MAKES ME WONDER IF SHE COPIED MELANIA MADER WHO COMPETED IN MISS PHILIPPINES EARTH FIRST, THEN REPRESENTED AUSTRIA IN MISS EARTH 2018 AND PLACED MISS EARTH-AIR 2018
Neither Melania Mader not Maureen Montagne hold a candle to Madison Anderson’s carpetbagging.
Melania lived in the Philippines when she competed in her initial Miss Earth pageant. Her family had moved to Austria and she had become a full-fledged Austrian resident by the time she represented Austria at her succeeding Miss Earth pageant. Miss Earth was her goal from the get-go; nothing malicious nor carpetbagging in that.
Maureen Montagne made up her mind to represent the Philippines, moved to the Philippines, competed for a Philippine crown and represented the Philippines and ended it there.
Madison Anderson, on the other hand, started early and represented Florida as a teen, then took advantage of her Puerto Rican background to represent Puerto Rico at another competition (a modeling competition), didn’t make the cut for Grand USA as a Floridian so exploited her Puerto Rican background again to make it to Miss Gwand International, wasn’t satisfied with that and flip-flopped to Florida to become Miss USA, failed at that and without even finishing her reign as her Florida county’s rep decided to jump ship again to represent Puerto Rico for Miss Universe, totally making a mockery of the Miss USA-Universe system which had selected North Carolina’s Cheslie Kryst to be the official USA representative.
There was never any intent to represent the “best” nor the essence of either Florida or Puerto Rico. It was all about gaming the system for her greedy, personal gain of milking the pageant system for a crown.
Again, neither girl above — nor Miss Universe Ireland 2019 (from Washington DC) or Miss Albania 2019 (from Chicago, IL) — come even remotely close to what Madison Anderson has done. So what’s next for this carpetbagger? Looking for a relative in New York and representing that state (where a lot of Puerto Ricans reside) to become the USA contestant for Miss World?
Goodness. I got dizzy following Madison’s journey.
Lafeadamadelaindia wrote:Malcanthet wrote:If anything, Madison, a runner up at a state pageant would surpass the actual national titleholder showed that Cheslie was a diversity winner. I didn’t see the hype with her in Miss USA... and many deserving girls, like Texas, were cut out of the top 15.
Poor Cheslie. Made to believe that she earned the crown, when in reality, she was just the token candidate of color for the infamous “Black Magic of 2019.” Tsk, tsk.
Malcanthet wrote:Queen of the Clouds wrote:No, they won't. Girls with a Puerto Rican background may go to MUPR like Madison did, but girls won't go to Guam or USVI unless they have an actual connection to the islands because those are not powerful sashes and they can do much more as a Miss USA state titleholder than as a Guam or USVI titleholder. PR is even more difficult because of the language barrier. Madison barely spoke Spanish and had such a hard time even though she legitimately is half Puerto Rican, so imagine a non-Puerto Rican girl with no Spanish skills competing there --- no chance. Personally I think all of the territories should just compete in Miss USA though. Puerto Rico competed in Miss America for many years. These are all American girls anyways.
Actually this year's Miss USVI was actually a former Miss USA state participant. In fact, there was a whole controversy with the pageant because it appears country hopping outsiders ousted the resident contestants from the top 5. One side argued about participants seeking an express trip to Miss Universe while others argue why aren't more local girls competing.
Malcanthet wrote:If anything, Madison, a runner up at a state pageant would surpass the actual national titleholder showed that Cheslie was a diversity winner. I didn’t see the hype with her in Miss USA... and many deserving girls, like Texas, were cut out of the top 15.
wanderlustwoman wrote:Let's not forget about Fig using her dual-Irish citizenship to her advantage. There's also a Venezuelan girl who competed at NJ that I believe is going for Miss Universe Venezuela. Valentina?
Miss Tiffany wrote:Maybe and they will kick filipino ass once again. Madison almost won and what about Ganzini? Just a top-20 after all that hype?! LMAO!
Miss Tiffany wrote:Maybe and they will kick filipino ass once again. Madison almost won and what about Ganzini? Just a top-20 after all that hype?! LMAO!
Malcanthet wrote:Miss Tiffany wrote:Maybe and they will kick filipino ass once again. Madison almost won and what about Ganzini? Just a top-20 after all that hype?! LMAO!
[bAnd too many bloggers and Youtubers were afraid to tell the truth about Gazini. There was no way she was going to accomplish a back-to-back.[/b]
erinarriba wrote:carlosebastienne wrote:sleuth08 wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:After Madison Anderson beat Cheslie Kryst at Miss Universe 2019 and finished 1st Runner Up. Do you think more Miss USA state pageant runners-up will move to Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or Guam soon in order to apply for Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Universe USVI or Miss Universe Guam respectively in the near future?
MAKES ME WONDER IF SHE COPIED MELANIA MADER WHO COMPETED IN MISS PHILIPPINES EARTH FIRST, THEN REPRESENTED AUSTRIA IN MISS EARTH 2018 AND PLACED MISS EARTH-AIR 2018
Neither Melania Mader not Maureen Montagne hold a candle to Madison Anderson’s carpetbagging.
Melania lived in the Philippines when she competed in her initial Miss Earth pageant. Her family had moved to Austria and she had become a full-fledged Austrian resident by the time she represented Austria at her succeeding Miss Earth pageant. Miss Earth was her goal from the get-go; nothing malicious nor carpetbagging in that.
Maureen Montagne made up her mind to represent the Philippines, moved to the Philippines, competed for a Philippine crown and represented the Philippines and ended it there.
Madison Anderson, on the other hand, started early and represented Florida as a teen, then took advantage of her Puerto Rican background to represent Puerto Rico at another competition (a modeling competition), didn’t make the cut for Grand USA as a Floridian so exploited her Puerto Rican background again to make it to Miss Gwand International, wasn’t satisfied with that and flip-flopped to Florida to become Miss USA, failed at that and without even finishing her reign as her Florida county’s rep decided to jump ship again to represent Puerto Rico for Miss Universe, totally making a mockery of the Miss USA-Universe system which had selected North Carolina’s Cheslie Kryst to be the official USA representative.
There was never any intent to represent the “best” nor the essence of either Florida or Puerto Rico. It was all about gaming the system for her greedy, personal gain of milking the pageant system for a crown.
Again, neither girl above — nor Miss Universe Ireland 2019 (from Washington DC) or Miss Albania 2019 (from Chicago, IL) — come even remotely close to what Madison Anderson has done. So what’s next for this carpetbagger? Looking for a relative in New York and representing that state (where a lot of Puerto Ricans reside) to become the USA contestant for Miss World?
Goodness. I got dizzy following Madison’s journey.
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