
by ajsy0203 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:48 pm
As we continue about why she placed, why she clapped series. We are taking a look about these hyped former Miss World contestants from Asia who competed at Miss Universe pageant.
Back in 2011 when Miss World 2007 Top 16 semifinalist Deborah Henry was hyped by some pageant fans that she will end the 41 year placement drought (at that time) at Miss Universe 2011 and also her former batchmates from Miss World 2007 Ada Dela Cruz and Yendi Philips finished 1st Runner Up in 2009 and 2010 respectively. Some of the fans think that Deborah will repeat that awesome finish at Miss Universe 2011 just like Ada and Yendi. All of the sudden, at the final competition, Deborah ended up as a clapper and even worse that a moderately hyped Miss Philippines Shamcey Supsup continued the placement streak that Venus started along with Miss China Zi Lin Luo.
Now last December 2018, another hyped former Asian Miss World contestant competed at Miss Universe 2018, this time it is Catriona Gray. Although lots of fans believed that she will win the pageant but some of us think about the "Asian MW curse" at Miss Universe that started with Kim Joo Ri in 2010, Deborah in 2011 and Loan in 2017. But her fate at Miss Universe was exact opposite from Deborah when she made it to the semifinals all the way to the crown.
Now let set aside the Sash Factor and Trump/IMG factor, why do you think Deborah clapped while Catriona ended up winning the pageant? Is preparation and attitude the key of these results? Will Catriona's fellow competitors at Miss World 2016 follow suit and possibly duplicate her win at Miss Universe in the near future?
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by renegade » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:59 pm
Shamcey was not an underdog. She was one of the favorites as well. She was chosen along with Ms China, Venezuela and Brazil for Smile Campaign together with Ximena.
Deborah's hair and make up might have cost her the placement. Malaysia and Peru were stunning but unplaced.
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by KMAIr » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:28 pm
Deborah was dry
Sorry
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by lutosfeet » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:41 pm
She's pretty and has good communication skills though, one of the best reps or the best Malaysian delegate so far.. Until this day I still don't get it why she clapped so hard. I can still remember her compatriot Ms Anne Steph who even left the forum after that edition..
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by ajsy0203 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:29 pm
panchopolo wrote:First off, I never heard of the "Asian MW Curse" being discussed about Catriona this year; she was the universal favorite for the crown from the get-go. Secondly, Shamcey was never an underdog--to the contrary, she was one of those expected to place well.
Comparing Deborah and Catriona is like pitting apples with oranges. There is nothing similar in their their personalities and packaging, except for their being former Miss World participants. That should not be taken as parameter in assessing why one won and the other didn't.
"Asian MW Curse" - After Pauline Yeung (MW1987 Top 12 & MU1988 4th Runner Up), some MW Asian placers tried to compete at Miss Universe later on but they ended up as clappers. 3 of them placed at Miss World but ended up as clapper at Miss Universe later on prior to Catriona's victory at Miss Universe 2018.
Some netizens hyped Debbie at Miss Universe 2011 yet some of them even put her into the top spot. After her non-placement some of the netizens blamed and bashed Shamcey for her non-placement.
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by hokuto1129 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:10 pm
Deborah destined to clap while Catriona is for winning Miss Universe.
I agree with some of the forumers above, her style killed her chances and she was not favored by Trump. Yeah, she's better than Portugal and even Priscilla. But online voting and hometurf advantage played for these two girls, respectively.
I want Malaysia to level up. I want them to crack in the semis to end their very long drought. I love Sam (MUM '17). And Malaysians seem to be nice person than ahemmmmm, nations that must not be named. Hahaha.
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by Neekolas » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:07 am
Deborah clapped hard simply because she had no strategy.
She was beautiful and smart but boring, no signature walk, no attention grabbing clothes, videos, et cetera.
Catriona had a game-plan and an efficient team. She was miles ahead in every aspect.
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by Muckraker » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:25 am
Deborah Henry as well as other half-breed Malaysians didn't make the cut as they were not properly trained. No beauty camp or beauty house to groom them. Also, they have attitude and personality superiority. Back at home, they were like demigods as blessed with foreign blood compared to local Muslim or ethnic Chinese girls. But they should have left their airs and graces back home when they competed in the international arena. Did you also know that Deborah's parents were seen and heard arguing during the prelims? Staffers at Miss U knew about this. They just don't know how to put their best foot forward and keep up with the protocol........InTheKnow.
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by jakelaxamana » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:25 am
I hope this time Malaysia could at least enter the semi-finalist. I hope they could send a well-prepared representative this year.
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