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AaronICK wrote: With the recent Puerto Rico incident wherein she understands English and she knows how to speak English yet she still opted to use a translator, that's unfair to the other contestants.
mrgary wrote:In this IMG era? Hell, YES! Having no interpreter for every social engagement that a Miss Universe has is not only cost-efficient but also cost-effective for the organisation. A penny saved is a penny earned, as the saying goes. A Miss Universe represents an American brand, hence, it is favourable for her to be fluent in spoken and written English. She becomes more productive for the organisation because of her accessibility with the English language. She will have more speaking and modeling engagements from sponsors worldwide. When these things happen, her productivity translates to more income generated for the organisation which will mean good business for MUO. A Miss Universe nowadays is not only a spokesperson for the organisation but also an international fundraiser for charitable causes and institutions. How can one raise funds if her proficiency in the English language is inadequate? A lot of these major charitable causes originate in the U.S. where most millionaire donours and benefactors reside. Thus, English is imperative.
Juan Sebastian wrote:Miss Universe and Miss World will never admit to this, but it is important at this point, lets be real, especially in Miss Universe. Since 2016, the girls have to have a conversation with Steve Harvey once they place without translators there and I remember very distinctly that Miss Brazil 2016 Raissa did not know what Steve Harvey said because she did not speak enough English, did good enough in swimsuit to move onto evening gown but guess what, she was eliminated and probably because of her poor English! And as someone who is bilingual, let me tell you that relying on a translator is risky and does not give girls an advantage like people think.
There have been many cases where this was an issue but the first one that comes to my mind is Ariadna a few years ago. She is a great speaker and even though I do not remember exactly what she said or what the translator said the reason she gave the translator side eye in the final question is that the translator was saying something completely different than her actual answer to the question and understood enough English to know that. I have no idea what Miss Vietnam this year actually said but when the translator said "she thinks" instead of "I think" I knew it was over for her and the translator would probably just summarize or incorrectly translate what she said. Also I saw a youtube video of someone translating what Iris actually said in her final answer at Miss Universe 2016 and in comparison with what the translator said and it was nothing alike either.
When the girls are using translators, they are not in control of what the judges hear and it makes it a setback not an advantage. Whoever wins will also do a media tour in New York shortly after they are crowned with mostly English interviews so they have to be able to converse! If I were a contestant and did not know much English, I would invest in intensive English training so by the time the pageant happens, I would be fluent enough to answer questions and give out the answers I want.
At this point, if they want the competition to be fair, Miss Universe and Miss World need to make it either a requirement to be able to communicate in English or find a more effective way of translating the girls answers.
Juan Sebastian wrote:Miss Universe and Miss World will never admit to this, but it is important at this point, lets be real, especially in Miss Universe. Since 2016, the girls have to have a conversation with Steve Harvey once they place without translators there and I remember very distinctly that Miss Brazil 2016 Raissa did not know what Steve Harvey said because she did not speak enough English, did good enough in swimsuit to move onto evening gown but guess what, she was eliminated and probably because of her poor English! And as someone who is bilingual, let me tell you that relying on a translator is risky and does not give girls an advantage like people think.
There have been many cases where this was an issue but the first one that comes to my mind is Ariadna a few years ago. She is a great speaker and even though I do not remember exactly what she said or what the translator said the reason she gave the translator side eye in the final question is that the translator was saying something completely different than her actual answer to the question and understood enough English to know that. I have no idea what Miss Vietnam this year actually said but when the translator said "she thinks" instead of "I think" I knew it was over for her and the translator would probably just summarize or incorrectly translate what she said. Also I saw a youtube video of someone translating what Iris actually said in her final answer at Miss Universe 2016 and in comparison with what the translator said and it was nothing alike either.
When the girls are using translators, they are not in control of what the judges hear and it makes it a setback not an advantage. Whoever wins will also do a media tour in New York shortly after they are crowned with mostly English interviews so they have to be able to converse! If I were a contestant and did not know much English, I would invest in intensive English training so by the time the pageant happens, I would be fluent enough to answer questions and give out the answers I want.
At this point, if they want the competition to be fair, Miss Universe and Miss World need to make it either a requirement to be able to communicate in English or find a more effective way of translating the girls answers.
Thomas876 wrote:Juan Sebastian wrote:Miss Universe and Miss World will never admit to this, but it is important at this point, lets be real, especially in Miss Universe. Since 2016, the girls have to have a conversation with Steve Harvey once they place without translators there and I remember very distinctly that Miss Brazil 2016 Raissa did not know what Steve Harvey said because she did not speak enough English, did good enough in swimsuit to move onto evening gown but guess what, she was eliminated and probably because of her poor English! And as someone who is bilingual, let me tell you that relying on a translator is risky and does not give girls an advantage like people think.
There have been many cases where this was an issue but the first one that comes to my mind is Ariadna a few years ago. She is a great speaker and even though I do not remember exactly what she said or what the translator said the reason she gave the translator side eye in the final question is that the translator was saying something completely different than her actual answer to the question and understood enough English to know that. I have no idea what Miss Vietnam this year actually said but when the translator said "she thinks" instead of "I think" I knew it was over for her and the translator would probably just summarize or incorrectly translate what she said. Also I saw a youtube video of someone translating what Iris actually said in her final answer at Miss Universe 2016 and in comparison with what the translator said and it was nothing alike either.
When the girls are using translators, they are not in control of what the judges hear and it makes it a setback not an advantage. Whoever wins will also do a media tour in New York shortly after they are crowned with mostly English interviews so they have to be able to converse! If I were a contestant and did not know much English, I would invest in intensive English training so by the time the pageant happens, I would be fluent enough to answer questions and give out the answers I want.
At this point, if they want the competition to be fair, Miss Universe and Miss World need to make it either a requirement to be able to communicate in English or find a more effective way of translating the girls answers.Here is Iris' final answer at Miss Universe 2016:
I have failed several times in my life. I thought I would fail in my first year of medicine because I was not on the list at the beginning, and the afternoon, I bought a new medical book. I think that when we fail, we have to continue, we have to get up, and I think we are all capable of doing it. If tonight, I do not win, it's not that tomorrow I will not smile because I'm one of the three finalists. I learned a lot when I thought I would fail and luckily for me, finally, I had my first year of medicine.
The interpreter was, indeed, bad!!! I thought he had wiped out Iris' chances.
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