HowDoYouKnow wrote:Miss Spain's biggest advantage is her story, and I'm sure IMG is going to milk it for all it is worth.
She certainly doesn't have any biological advantage, however. First of all, she's not really pretty. She looks fine, but many more Miss Universe contestants are already prettier than her at this stage and more, prettier girls will show up come competition time. Second, she doesn't have a good body. She doesn't have the natural curves of a woman (hips, in particular). And her upper thighs and lower legs are so thin that they don't look proportional to her upper body. She looks horrible in a swimsuit!
I expect her to make it to the semi-finals (maybe even the Top 5) with her story and the impact her presence creates for Miss Universe, but I don't expect her to win the crown. Not with that face and body, and certainly not unless she outsmarts Miss Philippines -- if Catriona Gray makes it to the Top 5 -- in the Q&A.
rainiel wrote:some of you maybe correct that Miss Universe will bank on her story, for what it is now, everyone has their opinions. But I think, Miss Universe is not ready to crown a transexual yet. and maybe after her, IMG will recalculate the rules. But for all the story's worth for now, it's selling and being hyped. so let it be. the universe will watch her journey but crowning her is a bit far fetched...or I may be wrong.
JoelR wrote: While I try not to start arguments and pick fights I just have to say this. The whole argument of unfairness of Miss Spain competing towards natural born woman is very..... hypocritical. Is it fair for Miss Puerto, Miss Venezuela and Miss Domician Republic to place over girls who are natural beauties and have never had plastic surgery? How fair was it to Japan and other girls that Zuleyka won having multiple plastic surgeries? Same with Molly, Stefania and Dayana. Miriam Habach won best body but as we know Osmel has them get plastic surgery to prefect their body. How fair was that to girls that worked hard at the gym to get in shape? And yes Miram did go to the gym but surgery def. Gave her an advantage. Fair is fair.
Agnes Rosenberg wrote:JoelR wrote: While I try not to start arguments and pick fights I just have to say this. The whole argument of unfairness of Miss Spain competing towards natural born woman is very..... hypocritical. Is it fair for Miss Puerto, Miss Venezuela and Miss Domician Republic to place over girls who are natural beauties and have never had plastic surgery? How fair was it to Japan and other girls that Zuleyka won having multiple plastic surgeries? Same with Molly, Stefania and Dayana. Miriam Habach won best body but as we know Osmel has them get plastic surgery to prefect their body. How fair was that to girls that worked hard at the gym to get in shape? And yes Miram did go to the gym but surgery def. Gave her an advantage. Fair is fair.
SO WHAT ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR? TO MALIGN US THE TRANSGENDERS?
Agnes Rosenberg wrote:JoelR wrote: While I try not to start arguments and pick fights I just have to say this. The whole argument of unfairness of Miss Spain competing towards natural born woman is very..... hypocritical. Is it fair for Miss Puerto, Miss Venezuela and Miss Domician Republic to place over girls who are natural beauties and have never had plastic surgery? How fair was it to Japan and other girls that Zuleyka won having multiple plastic surgeries? Same with Molly, Stefania and Dayana. Miriam Habach won best body but as we know Osmel has them get plastic surgery to prefect their body. How fair was that to girls that worked hard at the gym to get in shape? And yes Miram did go to the gym but surgery def. Gave her an advantage. Fair is fair.
SO WHAT ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR? TO MALIGN US THE TRANSGENDERS?
fortela wrote:Agnes Rosenberg wrote:JoelR wrote: While I try not to start arguments and pick fights I just have to say this. The whole argument of unfairness of Miss Spain competing towards natural born woman is very..... hypocritical. Is it fair for Miss Puerto, Miss Venezuela and Miss Domician Republic to place over girls who are natural beauties and have never had plastic surgery? How fair was it to Japan and other girls that Zuleyka won having multiple plastic surgeries? Same with Molly, Stefania and Dayana. Miriam Habach won best body but as we know Osmel has them get plastic surgery to prefect their body. How fair was that to girls that worked hard at the gym to get in shape? And yes Miram did go to the gym but surgery def. Gave her an advantage. Fair is fair.
SO WHAT ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR? TO MALIGN US THE TRANSGENDERS?
but these women did not castrate their pedis and testcles which is at the very basic level and zuleyka still carries the xx chromose all over her body ...gets?
Agnes Rosenberg wrote:Unless you have seen a day through my eyes, unless you have listened through my ears,
unless you have walked a day in my shoes, don’t even begin to judge or criticize me.
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