Ligaya Magdalena wrote:Focpoclou Wang wrote:Kalokahhhhh.... NAGKAKAUBUSAN NA BA NG MGA GAY PAGEANTS.... kaya pati yung dapat na para lang sa mga TUNAY na babae eh talagang ipagpilitan ng iba nating kapatid na bakla na salihan. Dreaming is ok but being delusioned is NOT... Kahit isang libong opera pa ipagawa niyo dyan sa mga katawan niyo.... ORIGINALLY, you were conceived and born as MALE... mga ambisyosang froglets.....Agnes Rosenberg wrote: @Focpoc Louwang.....Hoy baklang panget na may katawan na singlaki ng sa elepante...... DONT US... Hindi namin kasalanan kung pinanganak kaming maganda, payat, makinis at mukhang babae. Pera at panahon namin ang ginagamit namin sa pagpapalagay ng suso at pekpekk kaya WALA KAYONG PAKIALAM.
Mamatay kayo sa ingget mga baklang CHAKA. Baket ba BITTER na BITTER kayo sa aming magagandang bakla. At baket bawal kaming sumali sa mga female beauty pageants, bakeetttt, INSECURE na ba yung mga bilat nyong kandidata sa malaDiyosa naming kagandahan dahil ba sa mas maganda pa kami sa kanila.
Haleeeerrr, INGGIT MUCH TO THE MAX ang mga peg nyo.... PALIBHASA MGA SAKSAKAN NG PANGET KAYO!!!
Ateng Agnes, tingin ko eh wala namang umaaway sayo. Ganyan talaga ang buhay, hindi natin control ang sasabihin at gugustuhin ng ibang tao. Kung karapatan mong ipaglaban ang rights mo bilang Transgender eh karapatan din nilang sabihin ang opinyon nila maging tama man ito o mali sa paniniwala mo.
Relax lang ateng... dapat nga happy ka na dahil mismong IMG na ang tumatanggap para makasali ang mga Transgender sa Miss Universe Pageant... Ohhh debahhhhh napakalaking development na yan... CHEER UP... Maganda ka at mayaman at edukada.... Look at me,,, mahirap, panget at di nakatapos sa college, pero I AM HAPPY AND CONTENTED with what God has given me.
micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also. Let’s just break the rules and be more accepting, like allowing married women, little women, gays, women on their 40’s and beyond, voluptuous women like Ashley Graham, divorcee, women with children and much more. We should make a petition for Katelyn Jenner to join Miss USA and hopefully wins and be the USA’s representative for the 2019 Miss Universe. The crazier the merrier! ( the word crazier is use for laughter and not to demean people)
micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also. Let’s just break the rules and be more accepting, like allowing married women, little women, gays, women on their 40’s and beyond, voluptuous women like Ashley Graham, divorcee, women with children and much more. We should make a petition for Katelyn Jenner to join Miss USA and hopefully wins and be the USA’s representative for the 2019 Miss Universe. The crazier the merrier! ( the word crazier is use for laughter and not to demean people)
micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also. Let’s just break the rules and be more accepting, like allowing married women, little women, gays, women on their 40’s and beyond, voluptuous women like Ashley Graham, divorcee, women with children and much more. We should make a petition for Katelyn Jenner to join Miss USA and hopefully wins and be the USA’s representative for the 2019 Miss Universe. The crazier the merrier! ( the word crazier is use for laughter and not to demean people)
abid wrote:micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also. Let’s just break the rules and be more accepting, like allowing married women, little women, gays, women on their 40’s and beyond, voluptuous women like Ashley Graham, divorcee, women with children and much more. We should make a petition for Katelyn Jenner to join Miss USA and hopefully wins and be the USA’s representative for the 2019 Miss Universe. The crazier the merrier! ( the word crazier is use for laughter and not to demean people)
Bullseye!
Kiwi wrote:First of all, I'd like to extend a hearty congratulations to the new Miss Universe Spain, Angela Ponce! I was rooting for Andrea De Las Haras but at the end of the day, Angela will make history as the first transwoman to represent her country at Miss Universe! What an accomplishment.
And now to the issue at hand,
I'm not gonna mince words, there's been a lot of hatred and casual transphobia thrown around recently. A lot of it was seen during Miss Israel and now, especially with Angela earning the right to go to Miss Universe.
It's absolutely disgusting.
I've seen many people bandy around phrases like "I don't hate trans but she should join Miss Tiffany instead of Miss Universe". That's transphobic. Just like there are shades and degrees of racism and homophobia, from microaggressions to hate crimes, so it goes with transphobia. By saying this, you are literally othering another human being, making them seem less than because they were born in the wrong body. You have no idea how much pain and struggle and confusion transwomen go through to find the freedom to live their true identities. She is a woman, whether you like it or not. And even if you subscribe to the antiquated thinking that she was born of a different gender, she is a woman legally, and was allowed to compete and win her national pageant. No ifs and or buts about it.
So many people here engage in cheap, frankly insulting, humour in lieu of actual meaningful discussion and celebration of a step forward. MUO should be applauded in being a pioneer in bringing pageants to reflect the modern, advanced world we live in now, it should be applauded for combating bigotry with acceptance. And yet here, we see a cesspool of degrading opinions, mostly borne out of ignorance and fear.
So many are misgendering transwomen, and using the antiquated term transgender. It's not okay.
The world is evolving. Maybe you should too.
On a final note, let's play devil's advocate. So Angela competes at Miss Universe. What the f**k are you gonna do about it? Petitions? Maybe organize a protest even? At the end of the day, the narrative is against you. The Miss Universe organisation and the most prominent voices of the world will endorse this leap forward. Do you really think they're gonna take away her right to represent her country just because you're butthurt? In fact, the opposite will happen. They will get praised for building bridges instead of putting up walls. You will be on the wrong side of history. And your children's children will judge you for being bigoted.
At the end of the day, you'll still be watching Miss Universe on your shitty livestream being aggrieved by the fact that a transwoman will proudly represent her country and the future on that stage.
micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also. Let’s just break the rules and be more accepting, like allowing married women, little women, gays, women on their 40’s and beyond, voluptuous women like Ashley Graham, divorcee, women with children and much more. We should make a petition for Katelyn Jenner to join Miss USA and hopefully wins and be the USA’s representative for the 2019 Miss Universe. The crazier the merrier! ( the word crazier is use for laughter and not to demean people)
micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also.
davidtbv wrote:micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also. Let’s just break the rules and be more accepting, like allowing married women, little women, gays, women on their 40’s and beyond, voluptuous women like Ashley Graham, divorcee, women with children and much more. We should make a petition for Katelyn Jenner to join Miss USA and hopefully wins and be the USA’s representative for the 2019 Miss Universe. The crazier the merrier! ( the word crazier is use for laughter and not to demean people)
Trans woman are different from drag queens, try to educate first yourself and learn SOGIE
Trans woman are woman
Drag queens are men who like to dress like a woman for shows
NhokShjn wrote:micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also.
Drag queens don't identify themselves as women. Please read up on gender dysphoria, which is the reason why trans women decided to transition. Please EDUCATE yourself and RESEARCH before speaking, y'all just sound dumb at this point.
micoexpress5 wrote:NhokShjn wrote:micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also.
Drag queens don't identify themselves as women. Please read up on gender dysphoria, which is the reason why trans women decided to transition. Please EDUCATE yourself and RESEARCH before speaking, y'all just sound dumb at this point.
Try to read n understand English first. Did I say drag queens n transwomen are the same.
Jim_From_Boston wrote:I don’t think most people have expressed hatred, but they have shared their opinion that they feel Miss Universe should be research bed flr naturally born women. I happen to agree with them on this, but in no way do I hate the delegate frkn Soain. Tolerance needs to go both ways. Just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn't mean you need to assail them into your line of thinking. We can have different opinions; not a problem.
Smile wrote:micoexpress5 wrote:NhokShjn wrote:micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also.
Drag queens don't identify themselves as women. Please read up on gender dysphoria, which is the reason why trans women decided to transition. Please EDUCATE yourself and RESEARCH before speaking, y'all just sound dumb at this point.
Try to read n understand English first. Did I say drag queens n transwomen are the same.
You're trying to be clever. You made an equivalency between transwomen and drag queens in your post. And I read and understand English perfectly well.
micoexpress5 wrote:Smile wrote:micoexpress5 wrote:NhokShjn wrote:micoexpress5 wrote:If transwomen r allowed to join Miss U, I think drag queens should be allowed also.
Drag queens don't identify themselves as women. Please read up on gender dysphoria, which is the reason why trans women decided to transition. Please EDUCATE yourself and RESEARCH before speaking, y'all just sound dumb at this point.
Try to read n understand English first. Did I say drag queens n transwomen are the same.
You're trying to be clever. You made an equivalency between transwomen and drag queens in your post. And I read and understand English perfectly well.
Reading and understanding are two different things. Maybe u should try to educate yourself.
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