JamesCedricLim wrote:I got your point, as i also respect Trans. However if they want to be respected they should know when to draw the line. No matter how we push your ideas they are still MEN, Born to be man, no amount of physical operation, mentality, or they are trap on the men's body etc etc.
They should also learn how to respect others.
JamesCedricLim wrote: If MUO will allow Spain to compete, Julia will only have one world "LAUGH"
I hope all the Miss Universe QUEENS should protest this injustice to natural born Women. They should speak up and protest to MUO in a diplomatic way. LGBT should respect the history of Miss Universe.
unbreakable wrote:Angela Ponce Competed in Miss world Spain 3 years ago, Julia will allow transgender to Compete in Miss World sooner or later .
JamesCedricLim wrote:I got your point, as i also respect Trans. However if they want to be respected they should know when to draw the line. No matter how we push your ideas they are still MEN, Born to be man, no amount of physical operation, mentality, or they are trap on the men's body etc etc.
They should also learn how to respect others.
bcdf1930 wrote:I THINK THIS COMES FROM YOUR IGNORANCE...TRANSGENDER WOMEN ARE WOMEN WITHIN...JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BORN MEN PHYSICALLY, THEY ARE NOT MEN WITHIN..IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF UNDERSTANDING TO UNDERSTAND THAT...UNLESS YOU ARE A TRANSGENDER YOURSELF, YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THEM
OUR SOCIETY NEEDS TO CONSIDER TRANSGENDER WOMEN AS SIMPLY WOMEN AND NOT 'TRANS' WOMEN...IF THEY NEED A SEPARATE PAGEANT EVERYTIME, THEY WILL NEVER GET THE EQUALITY THAT EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT...JUST CONSIDER THEM AS NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS...THAT IS THE BEST THAT ALL OF US CAN DO
the critic wrote:THE IRONY OF THIS IS THAT IN ATHLETICS WOMEN WITH INTERSEX TRAITS ARE PRESSURED WITH ALL KINDS OF GENDER TESTING AND COULD EVEN BE FORCED TO DO HORMONE THERAPY TO PROVE TO THEIR FEMININITY AND RIGHT TO COMPETE. WHILE IN BEAUTY PAGEANTS TRANS WOMEN ARE GIVEN THE GREENLIGHT TO COMPETE...EVEN THOUGH AT A DISADVANTAGE.
MY CONCERN IS HOW MISS UNIVERSE WILL BE SEEN TO THE REST OF THE WORLD AND BY TRADITIONALIST PAGEANT FANS. IF PONCE COMPETES IT WILL BE CONTROVERSIAL AND MAKE FOR A GOOD PUBLICITY STUNT THAT WILL CHANGE THE IMAGE OF THE CONTEST FOREVER.
bcdf1930 wrote:JamesCedricLim wrote:I got your point, as i also respect Trans. However if they want to be respected they should know when to draw the line. No matter how we push your ideas they are still MEN, Born to be man, no amount of physical operation, mentality, or they are trap on the men's body etc etc.
They should also learn how to respect others.
WHAT I MEANT IS TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN...THEY DON'T THINK AND ACT LIKE MEN..SO WHEN YOU SAY THEY ARE STILL MEN, IT IS NOT RIGHT AT ALL...THEY UNDERGO ALL THESE OPERATIONS FOR NO SILLY REASON...THEY ARE NOT DISRESPECTING ANYONE BY JOINING PAGEANTS...IT IS WE WHO THINK THAT AS DISRESPECT SINCE WE CONSIDER THEM AS MEN...BUT IDEALLY, THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO BE WOMEN AND DO THINGS WOMEN DO AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHO THEY ARE
Sapphire wrote:I respect transgendered people, don't get me wrong, but I agree, there's already Miss Tiffany for them. They should also respect traditions that are already in place for many many many years.
the critic wrote:THE IRONY OF THIS IS THAT IN ATHLETICS WOMEN WITH INTERSEX TRAITS ARE PRESSURED WITH ALL KINDS OF GENDER TESTING AND COULD EVEN BE FORCED TO DO HORMONE THERAPY TO PROVE TO THEIR FEMININITY AND RIGHT TO COMPETE. WHILE IN BEAUTY PAGEANTS TRANS WOMEN ARE GIVEN THE GREENLIGHT TO COMPETE...EVEN THOUGH AT A DISADVANTAGE.
MY CONCERN IS HOW MISS UNIVERSE WILL BE SEEN TO THE REST OF THE WORLD AND BY TRADITIONALIST PAGEANT FANS. IF PONCE COMPETES IT WILL BE CONTROVERSIAL AND MAKE FOR A GOOD PUBLICITY STUNT THAT WILL CHANGE THE IMAGE OF THE CONTEST FOREVER.
novemberRain wrote:it shown that Miss World is the Best Pageant, without shitty gimmicks.
novemberRain wrote:it shown that Miss World is the Best Pageant, without shitty gimmicks.
JamesCedricLim wrote:I suggest to make a SIGNATURE Campaign. We should make this happen and send it to MUO that we are against it. I hope Miss Universe QUEENS should helps us to send our messages across to ORG.
What do you think guys?
Agnes Rosenberg wrote:JamesCedricLim wrote:I suggest to make a SIGNATURE Campaign. We should make this happen and send it to MUO that we are against it. I hope Miss Universe QUEENS should helps us to send our messages across to ORG.
What do you think guys?HAVE ANY TRANSGENDER DO SOMETHING BAD TO YOU.
FROM WHERE DOES YOUR HATE COMING FROM?
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