bcdf1930 wrote:HOW HAPPY EVERYONE IS FOR Miss Universe SPAIN WINNER! JUST SEE THE VIDEO SOME EVEN HAD TEARS IN THEIR EYES
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pilyangfilipina wrote:NOT ME !!!!!!!!!! I AM GAY . A PROUD ONE AT THAT . I HAVE MANY FRIENDS WHO ARE TRANSGENDERS . BUT THEY TOO ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT JUST HAPPENED AT THE MISS SPAIN BEAUTY PAGEANT .
OKAY I AM HAPPY THAT HE / SHE WON . IF THE JUDGES CROWNED HER THEIR NEW QUEEN SO BE IT . THERE IS NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT . BUT I THINK THAT IS AS FAR AS IT GOES .
MUO " SHOULD NOT " LET HER PARTICIPATE AT THE NEXT MISS UNIVERSE BEAUTY PAGEANT . WHY ? SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE IS " NOT " A WOMAN . SHE IS A TRANSGENDER WOMAN !
THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT IS CLEARLY FOR AND ONLY FOR " GENETICALLY AND NATURALLY BORN " WOMEN . THIS HAS BEEN TRADITIONALLY THIS WAY FOR MORE THAN FIFTY YEARS NOW AND SHOULD STAY THIS WAY FOREVER .
TRANSGENDERS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING AND STRUGGLING FOR ACCEPTANCE IN THE SOCIETY FOR SUCH A LONG TIME NOW AND I RESPECT THAT . NOW THAT THEY ARE LITTLE BY LITTLE BEING RECOGNIZED AND ACCEPTED I AM VERY HAPPY FOR THEM . BUT ...... YES A BIG BUT ..... ACCEPTANCE SHOULD ALSO HAVE ITS LIMITS AND PROPER PLACE IN THE SOCIETY .
IF TRANSGENDERS CLAIM AND CLAMOUR FOR " RESPECT " THEY SHOULD ALSO LEARN TO RESPECT THINGS IN THEIR PROPER PERSPECTIVE.
AND ONE GOOD , BIG EXAMPLE ARE BEAUTY PAGEANTS FOR WOMEN LIKE THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT . IT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THIS PAGEANT IS ONLY FOR WOMEN WHO ARE BORN REAL WOMEN GENETICALLY AND BIOLOGICALLY . NOT WOMEN WHO ARE BORN WITH COCKS , PENISES , SPERM PRODUCING GLANDS ETC ETC AND ONLY ARE " RE - CONSIDERED " AS WOMEN LATELY BECAUSE OF HOW THEY FEEL AND BEHAVE INSIDE OF THEM .
THERE IS A PAGEANT ESPECIALLY CREATED FOR TRANSGENDERS WHICH IS RECOGNIZED WORLDWIDE LIKE MISS INTERNATIONAL QUEEN . THIS IS THE PROPER PAGEANT FOR THEM .
AS FOR SPAIN CROWNING THEIR NEW QUEEN WHO IS A TRANSGENDER , I RESPECT THAT TOTALLY . BUT ALLOWING HER TO PARTICIPATE AT THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT WOULD BE A VERY BAD PRECEDENT AND WILL BE SENDING A WRONG SIGNAL AROUND THE WORLD . ESPECIALLY TO NATURALLY BORN WOMEN THAT THEY ARE SLOWLY BEING DISRESPECTED AND TRAMPLED ON AND THEIR RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR OWN PAGEANT FOR REAL WOMEN TOTALLY BEING DISREGARDED .
AS THE SAYING GOES ...... RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT .
esquire27 wrote:pilyangfilipina wrote:NOT ME !!!!!!!!!! I AM GAY . A PROUD ONE AT THAT . I HAVE MANY FRIENDS WHO ARE TRANSGENDERS . BUT THEY TOO ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT JUST HAPPENED AT THE MISS SPAIN BEAUTY PAGEANT .
OKAY I AM HAPPY THAT HE / SHE WON . IF THE JUDGES CROWNED HER THEIR NEW QUEEN SO BE IT . THERE IS NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT . BUT I THINK THAT IS AS FAR AS IT GOES .
MUO " SHOULD NOT " LET HER PARTICIPATE AT THE NEXT MISS UNIVERSE BEAUTY PAGEANT . WHY ? SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE IS " NOT " A WOMAN . SHE IS A TRANSGENDER WOMAN !
THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT IS CLEARLY FOR AND ONLY FOR " GENETICALLY AND NATURALLY BORN " WOMEN . THIS HAS BEEN TRADITIONALLY THIS WAY FOR MORE THAN FIFTY YEARS NOW AND SHOULD STAY THIS WAY FOREVER .
TRANSGENDERS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING AND STRUGGLING FOR ACCEPTANCE IN THE SOCIETY FOR SUCH A LONG TIME NOW AND I RESPECT THAT . NOW THAT THEY ARE LITTLE BY LITTLE BEING RECOGNIZED AND ACCEPTED I AM VERY HAPPY FOR THEM . BUT ...... YES A BIG BUT ..... ACCEPTANCE SHOULD ALSO HAVE ITS LIMITS AND PROPER PLACE IN THE SOCIETY .
IF TRANSGENDERS CLAIM AND CLAMOUR FOR " RESPECT " THEY SHOULD ALSO LEARN TO RESPECT THINGS IN THEIR PROPER PERSPECTIVE.
AND ONE GOOD , BIG EXAMPLE ARE BEAUTY PAGEANTS FOR WOMEN LIKE THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT . IT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THIS PAGEANT IS ONLY FOR WOMEN WHO ARE BORN REAL WOMEN GENETICALLY AND BIOLOGICALLY . NOT WOMEN WHO ARE BORN WITH COCKS , PENISES , SPERM PRODUCING GLANDS ETC ETC AND ONLY ARE " RE - CONSIDERED " AS WOMEN LATELY BECAUSE OF HOW THEY FEEL AND BEHAVE INSIDE OF THEM .
THERE IS A PAGEANT ESPECIALLY CREATED FOR TRANSGENDERS WHICH IS RECOGNIZED WORLDWIDE LIKE MISS INTERNATIONAL QUEEN . THIS IS THE PROPER PAGEANT FOR THEM .
AS FOR SPAIN CROWNING THEIR NEW QUEEN WHO IS A TRANSGENDER , I RESPECT THAT TOTALLY . BUT ALLOWING HER TO PARTICIPATE AT THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT WOULD BE A VERY BAD PRECEDENT AND WILL BE SENDING A WRONG SIGNAL AROUND THE WORLD . ESPECIALLY TO NATURALLY BORN WOMEN THAT THEY ARE SLOWLY BEING DISRESPECTED AND TRAMPLED ON AND THEIR RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR OWN PAGEANT FOR REAL WOMEN TOTALLY BEING DISREGARDED .
AS THE SAYING GOES ...... RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT .
Very well said! I agree that transgenders should respect the pageant that is created for naturally born women. They have the proper pageant to showcase their capabilties. I am very disappointed with Miss Spain Org. for sending “him” in MISS Universe.
bcdf1930 wrote:HOW HAPPY EVERYONE IS FOR Miss Universe SPAIN WINNER! JUST SEE THE VIDEO SOME EVEN HAD TEARS IN THEIR EYES
[youtube]pbNJWPBBj3k[/youtube]
fortela wrote:when they called the top 15 I already knew who the transgender was. she appeared taller than the rest and her form and arms are masculine. if she is allowed to join ms universe then that pageant might just turn into a travesty. tansgenders are accepted in our society they have their own world with their own beauty pageants and they even have very handsome male lovers who only go for transgenders and not biological women . so I don't know why they still want to intrude in a real world for women. if transgenders have rights ,so also do real women . paula shugart and all the real women out their should say no for ms spain joining miss universe pageant.if you examine her body cells in a microscope all of them will show the y chromosmes and that is why she can never be a real woman
Smile wrote:fortela wrote:when they called the top 15 I already knew who the transgender was. she appeared taller than the rest and her form and arms are masculine. if she is allowed to join ms universe then that pageant might just turn into a travesty. tansgenders are accepted in our society they have their own world with their own beauty pageants and they even have very handsome male lovers who only go for transgenders and not biological women . so I don't know why they still want to intrude in a real world for women. if transgenders have rights ,so also do real women . paula shugart and all the real women out their should say no for ms spain joining miss universe pageant.if you examine her body cells in a microscope all of them will show the y chromosmes and that is why she can never be a real woman
When you say things like "they still want to intrude", you are part of the problem. Transgenders aren't intruding at all because Miss Universe allows them to compete. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?
The Alchemist wrote:I won’t lie
I don’t want to see Angela Ponce in Miss Universe stage
Agnes Rosenberg wrote:The Alchemist wrote:I won’t lie
I don’t want to see Angela Ponce in Miss Universe stageHAVE ANY TRANSGENDER DO SOMETHING BAD TO YOU?
FROM WHERE DOES YOUR HATE COMING FROM?
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poorprinz wrote:Agnes Rosenberg wrote:The Alchemist wrote:I won’t lie
I don’t want to see Angela Ponce in Miss Universe stageHAVE ANY TRANSGENDER DO SOMETHING BAD TO YOU?
FROM WHERE DOES YOUR HATE COMING FROM?
.
It's a clear message that utmost respect should given to women.
Respect begets respect.
A prestigious pageant like Miss Universe is for women only, we should know our limits.
brent520 wrote:Just realized that there are alot of bigoted, ignorant people here in Misso. Grows!!
brent520 wrote:Just realized that there are alot of bigoted, ignorant people here in Misso. Grows!!
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