Turkey claims historical ownership of Olympic flame

[GBA]

Greece is famous as the birthplace of the Olympic Games. Ancient Olympia is renowned as the home of the Olympic Flame. The Turkish Prime Minister has decided history could be improved upon by claiming Turkey is in fact the true owner of the Olympic Flame.
The Olympic Flame symbolizes the connection between the modern Olympic Games and the ancient ones. In the past the high priestess of the Temple of Hera would light the flame, an event commemorated in the modern lighting of the Olympic torch every four years amidst the ruins of the Doric Temple of Hera, goddess of Olympus.

The Turkish government would now like to see history rewritten. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, together with Turkish Youth & Sports Minister, Saut Kilic, have claimed the Olympic Flame is in fact Turkish and requested it be returned to its true home. During a meeting with the President of the International Olympic Committee, Jacques Rogge, the Turkish duo asked for the flame to be "returned home." Their request appeared to be an attempt to bolster Turkeys bid to host the 2020 Olympics.
Athens News reported the Turks claim that legend has it that Mount Olympus, close to Antalya in Turkey, is the original source of the Olympic Flame. The Turkish claims were summarily dismissed by Isidoros Kouvelos, chief of Greece’s London Olympics mission. He suggested that Erdoğan acquaint himself with historical facts pertaining to the Olympics, rather than myths.
Kouvelos said “I would cordially like to invite Mr. Erdogan and his minister Mr. Kilic to ancient Olympia, to where the Olympic Academy resides, so they can both attend some interesting lectures on Olympic history”.

"There is Something Really Wrong with the World !!!

Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan Reportedly Claims Olympic Flame is Turkish !!!

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan stated, occasioned by the 2012 Olympic Games taking place in London, that the Olympic flame and by extension, the Olympic torch relay, has a Turkish origin.

According to star.gr, during a meeting they had with the President of the International Olympic Committee, Jacques Rogge, in London, both the Turkish Prime Minister and Turkish Youth & Sports Minister, Saut Kilic, agreed that the Olympic flame comes from Turkey.

Representatives of the Turkish government said that there is a mountain situated close to Anatalya, called Olympus, where the ground can be naturally light up due to the amount of methanium that exists in the area. According to an ancient myth, people used to light up the Olympic Torch in this place, commented Mr Erdogan.

Turkish Minister Suat Kilic stated during a press release, in a bid to convince officials of the International Olympic Committee that Turkey should host Olympics in the future, that “Turkey is the birthplace of the Olympic flame and as a result, Mr Erdogan explained to Jacques Rogge that we want the Games back in our country. The IOC has the right to bring the Olympic flame back to its origin.”

[Eddie]

I never knew that Mt. Olympus ended up on Turkic soil!

Or is this Turkey's way of hastening its accession bid in the EU?

[Enrique]

You are not from Gibraltar

[darkvindak]

You are not from Gibraltar

[NepaliAmir]

Lol, this reminds me of the fake news of Buddha was born in India!
When actually he was born in Kapilavastu which is in Nepal.

[Mariana Erwin]

What? I thought Mt. Olympus was on Greek soil!

[Eddie]

What? I thought Mt. Olympus was on Greek soil!

It must have transferred to Turkey after the Turkic invasion!

[Iknowbeauty]

Lol, this reminds me of the fake news of Buddha was born in India!
When actually he was born in Kapilavastu which is in Nepal.

Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism are all Indian Dharmic religions. Buddha was Indian. But we're all South Asians and have much in common. More than 80% of Nepalese people practice Hinduism. It is a country with highest number of Hindus.

[NepaliAmir]

Lol, this reminds me of the fake news of Buddha was born in India!
When actually he was born in Kapilavastu which is in Nepal.

Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism are all Indian Dharmic religions. Buddha was Indian. But we're all South Asians and have much in common. More than 80% of Nepalese people practice Hinduism. It is a country with highest number of Hindus.

Nope you are incorrect; get your facts right first. Check Wikipedia as well it states that Buddha was born in Lumbini which is in current Nepal. In the past there were no India/Nepal because there were many little kingdoms; so which makes Buddha Nepalese not Indian! And just because 80% of nepalese are hindu doesn't mean; Buddha turned to a different nationality; also I like to add that there are several hindu gods and goddess who were born in Nepal eg: sita, kumari etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

And that's the end of the topic; Buddha was indeed born in Nepal

[Eddie]

Lol, this reminds me of the fake news of Buddha was born in India!
When actually he was born in Kapilavastu which is in Nepal.

Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism are all Indian Dharmic religions. Buddha was Indian. But we're all South Asians and have much in common. More than 80% of Nepalese people practice Hinduism. It is a country with highest number of Hindus.

Nope you are incorrect; get your facts right first. Check Wikipedia as well it states that Buddha was born in Lumbini which is in current Nepal. In the past there were no India/Nepal because there were many little kingdoms; so which makes Buddha Nepalese not Indian! And just because 80% of nepalese are hindu doesn't mean; Buddha turned to a different nationality; also I like to add that there are several hindu gods and goddess who were born in Nepal eg: sita, kumari etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

And that's the end of the topic; Buddha was indeed born in Nepal

Although there are some claims that Buddha was born in India, I firmly believe that he was born in Nepal.

[NepaliAmir]

Lol, this reminds me of the fake news of Buddha was born in India!
When actually he was born in Kapilavastu which is in Nepal.

Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism are all Indian Dharmic religions. Buddha was Indian. But we're all South Asians and have much in common. More than 80% of Nepalese people practice Hinduism. It is a country with highest number of Hindus.

Nope you are incorrect; get your facts right first. Check Wikipedia as well it states that Buddha was born in Lumbini which is in current Nepal. In the past there were no India/Nepal because there were many little kingdoms; so which makes Buddha Nepalese not Indian! And just because 80% of nepalese are hindu doesn't mean; Buddha turned to a different nationality; also I like to add that there are several hindu gods and goddess who were born in Nepal eg: sita, kumari etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

And that's the end of the topic; Buddha was indeed born in Nepal

Although there are some claims that Buddha was born in India, I firmly believe that he was born in Nepal.

Exactly One day trust me India will also claim Mount Everest is located in India

[Iknowbeauty]

Lol, this reminds me of the fake news of Buddha was born in India!
When actually he was born in Kapilavastu which is in Nepal.

Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism are all Indian Dharmic religions. Buddha was Indian. But we're all South Asians and have much in common. More than 80% of Nepalese people practice Hinduism. It is a country with highest number of Hindus.

Nope you are incorrect; get your facts right first. Check Wikipedia as well it states that Buddha was born in Lumbini which is in current Nepal. In the past there were no India/Nepal because there were many little kingdoms; so which makes Buddha Nepalese not Indian! And just because 80% of nepalese are hindu doesn't mean; Buddha turned to a different nationality; also I like to add that there are several hindu gods and goddess who were born in Nepal eg: sita, kumari etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

And that's the end of the topic; Buddha was indeed born in Nepal

Siddhartha Gautama lived in the present-day border area between India and Nepal in the 6th century before Christ; his exact birth date is unknown. Because the life of the historical Buddha is inseparable from legend, the following text is not meant to be a historically exact biography, but a short life story based on what has been passed down by generations. The dates are based on present day historians' mainstream view.
563 BC - Birth

Siddhartha Gautama is born in Lumbini, near the Nepalese-Indian border to his father, King Suddhodana, ruler of the Sakya tribe, and his mother, Queen Mayadevi.

http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/buddhasresume.html


Today Lumbini is in present day Nepal. Back then it wasn't, it was part of Northern India. Borders of countries change.

In the sixth century BCE, north India was home to a dozen or more kingdoms and oligarchies, including the kingdom of Koysala, which in the Ramayana is described asbeing ruled by Dasaratha and his son Rama at one time, their capital located at Ayodhya. The Sakya tribe, which ruled over Koysala in the sixth century, had its capital at Sravasti in the Himalayan foothills, and it is at nearby Lumbini (now in Nepal) that Siddhartha Gautama was born in or around 563 BCE on a full moon night.

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/Re ... uddha.html



Buddhism originated in India.No religions originated in Nepal. Buddhism is closely related to Hinduism which also originated in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... m_in_India

This is like Pakistanis claiming the Indus Valley Civilization as their own because after partition the ruins happened to fall on their side.

[NepaliAmir]

Lol, this reminds me of the fake news of Buddha was born in India!
When actually he was born in Kapilavastu which is in Nepal.

Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism are all Indian Dharmic religions. Buddha was Indian. But we're all South Asians and have much in common. More than 80% of Nepalese people practice Hinduism. It is a country with highest number of Hindus.

Nope you are incorrect; get your facts right first. Check Wikipedia as well it states that Buddha was born in Lumbini which is in current Nepal. In the past there were no India/Nepal because there were many little kingdoms; so which makes Buddha Nepalese not Indian! And just because 80% of nepalese are hindu doesn't mean; Buddha turned to a different nationality; also I like to add that there are several hindu gods and goddess who were born in Nepal eg: sita, kumari etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

And that's the end of the topic; Buddha was indeed born in Nepal

Siddhartha Gautama lived in the present-day border area between India and Nepal in the 6th century before Christ; his exact birth date is unknown. Because the life of the historical Buddha is inseparable from legend, the following text is not meant to be a historically exact biography, but a short life story based on what has been passed down by generations. The dates are based on present day historians' mainstream view.
563 BC - Birth

Siddhartha Gautama is born in Lumbini, near the Nepalese-Indian border to his father, King Suddhodana, ruler of the Sakya tribe, and his mother, Queen Mayadevi.

http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/buddhasresume.html


Today Lumbini is in present day Nepal. Back then it wasn't, it was part of Northern India. Borders of countries change.

In the sixth century BCE, north India was home to a dozen or more kingdoms and oligarchies, including the kingdom of Koysala, which in the Ramayana is described asbeing ruled by Dasaratha and his son Rama at one time, their capital located at Ayodhya. The Sakya tribe, which ruled over Koysala in the sixth century, had its capital at Sravasti in the Himalayan foothills, and it is at nearby Lumbini (now in Nepal) that Siddhartha Gautama was born in or around 563 BCE on a full moon night.

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/Re ... uddha.html



Buddhism originated in India.No religions originated in Nepal. Buddhism is closely related to Hinduism which also originated in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... m_in_India

This is like Pakistanis claiming the Indus Valley Civilization as their own because after partition the ruins happened to fall on their side. You can rearrange borders, but can't change the truth.

In the 6th century there was no India or Nepal and Lumbini Buddha's birth place is in current Nepal which makes him nepalese specially as Shakyas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakya who were the royal family of Nepal and Mayadevi is a common name for a nepalese hindu queen.

[NepaliAmir]

Lol, this reminds me of the fake news of Buddha was born in India!
When actually he was born in Kapilavastu which is in Nepal.

Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism are all Indian Dharmic religions. Buddha was Indian. But we're all South Asians and have much in common. More than 80% of Nepalese people practice Hinduism. It is a country with highest number of Hindus.

Nope you are incorrect; get your facts right first. Check Wikipedia as well it states that Buddha was born in Lumbini which is in current Nepal. In the past there were no India/Nepal because there were many little kingdoms; so which makes Buddha Nepalese not Indian! And just because 80% of nepalese are hindu doesn't mean; Buddha turned to a different nationality; also I like to add that there are several hindu gods and goddess who were born in Nepal eg: sita, kumari etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

And that's the end of the topic; Buddha was indeed born in Nepal

Siddhartha Gautama lived in the present-day border area between India and Nepal in the 6th century before Christ; his exact birth date is unknown. Because the life of the historical Buddha is inseparable from legend, the following text is not meant to be a historically exact biography, but a short life story based on what has been passed down by generations. The dates are based on present day historians' mainstream view.
563 BC - Birth

Siddhartha Gautama is born in Lumbini, near the Nepalese-Indian border to his father, King Suddhodana, ruler of the Sakya tribe, and his mother, Queen Mayadevi.

http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/buddhasresume.html


Today Lumbini is in present day Nepal. Back then it wasn't, it was part of Northern India. Borders of countries change.

In the sixth century BCE, north India was home to a dozen or more kingdoms and oligarchies, including the kingdom of Koysala, which in the Ramayana is described asbeing ruled by Dasaratha and his son Rama at one time, their capital located at Ayodhya. The Sakya tribe, which ruled over Koysala in the sixth century, had its capital at Sravasti in the Himalayan foothills, and it is at nearby Lumbini (now in Nepal) that Siddhartha Gautama was born in or around 563 BCE on a full moon night.

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/Re ... uddha.html



Buddhism originated in India.No religions originated in Nepal. Buddhism is closely related to Hinduism which also originated in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... m_in_India

This is like Pakistanis claiming the Indus Valley Civilization as their own because after partition the ruins happened to fall on their side. You can rearrange borders, but can't change the truth.

In the 6th century there was no India or Nepal and Lumbini Buddha's birth place is in current Nepal which makes him nepalese specially as Shakyas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakya who were the royal family of Nepal and Mayadevi is a common name for a nepalese hindu queen.

[Iknowbeauty]

Then why does it say Shakya (Sanskrit: Śākya, Devanagari: शाक्य, Pāli: Sākya) was an ancient tribe (janapada) of the Indian Subcontinent in the 1st millennium BCE.[1

[NepaliAmir]

Then why does it say Shakya (Sanskrit: Śākya, Devanagari: शाक्य, Pāli: Sākya) was an ancient tribe (janapada) of the Indian Subcontinent in the 1st millennium BCE.[1

Because Sanskit was spoken in little hind kindoms; when there was no country called India or Nepal. Everyone knows the fact that Buddha was born in Nepal; so case is closed!

[Eddie]

My take on the Buddha issue:

Nepal is part of the Indian Subcontinent, but was never a part of India unlike Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Nepal can be akin to Bhutan, which had kingdoms in their own rights.

When borders were clearly drawn, Lumbini stayed with Nepal. So therefore, Buddha was born in what is now known as Nepal.

[NepaliAmir]

My take on the Buddha issue:

Nepal is part of the Indian Subcontinent, but was never a part of India unlike Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Nepal can be akin to Bhutan, which had kingdoms in their own rights.

When borders were clearly drawn, Lumbini stayed with Nepal. So therefore, Buddha was born in what is now known as Nepal.

Exactly Eddie; you get what I am trying to say. Buddha was born in current Nepal - the fact! I can't believe people are trying to change what happened in the past.

[krish38381]

The birth of Siddhartha, (2nd-3rd century).Siddhartha was born in Lumbini, Ancient India now in modern day Nepal. Siddhartha Gautama is 100% blood indian not nepali

[krish38381]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha

[NepaliAmir]

The birth of Siddhartha, (2nd-3rd century).Siddhartha was born in Lumbini, Ancient India now in modern day Nepal. Siddhartha Gautama is 100% blood indian not nepali

Lumbini was never a part of India and neither was buddha born there; get your facts right mate!

[krish38381]

There is a possibility that Lord Buddha is an Indian for some reason that he was born as a priviged Indian named Siddtharta Gautama

[Eddie]

Nepal was not part of Ancient India.

[NepaliAmir]

Nepal was not part of Ancient India.

Exactly, Indians always think they own Nepal when the truth is we never were captured by anyone. Even when the british came to rule Nepal; they fail to do so :D

[krish38381]

Historical Maps of Ancient India from 650 BC. Lord Buddha was born in B.C. 563 in a prosperous kingdom of Northern Ancient India, now Nepal.

Lumbini is part of Ancient India

[wardy]

Those claims are rubbish!!!!!!! They only want honor that's why they're digging ancient history!!!!!!!!!!!

[Eddie]

Those claims are rubbish!!!!!!! They only want honor that's why they're digging ancient history!!!!!!!!!!!

Before nations arose, there were empires and dynasties. But tribal, ethnic, or cultural aggrupations persisted. In the Roman-Greco empire, for example, the Romans remained Romans and the Greeks remained Greeks. While ancient maps highlighted the extent of a dynasty or empire, they were not 100% realiable, thus erroneous. And during those times, conquerors boasted of their conquests or annexations, but in the real sense, they were not able to conquer / annex the soul of a people like in the case of Nepal.

[wardy]

Those claims are rubbish!!!!!!! They only want honor that's why they're digging ancient history!!!!!!!!!!!

Before nations arose, there were empires and dynasties. But tribal, ethnic, or cultural aggrupations persisted. In the Roman-Greco empire, for example, the Romans remained Romans and the Greeks remained Greeks. While ancient maps highlighted the extent of a dynasty or empire, they were not 100% reliable, thus erroneous. And during those times, conquerors boasted of their conquests or annexations, but in the real sense, they were not able to conquer / annex the soul of a people like in the case of Nepal.

Some nations are so fixated to the past!!!!!!!!!!

[Eddie]

Those claims are rubbish!!!!!!! They only want honor that's why they're digging ancient history!!!!!!!!!!!

Before nations arose, there were empires and dynasties. But tribal, ethnic, or cultural aggrupations persisted. In the Roman-Greco empire, for example, the Romans remained Romans and the Greeks remained Greeks. While ancient maps highlighted the extent of a dynasty or empire, they were not 100% reliable, thus erroneous. And during those times, conquerors boasted of their conquests or annexations, but in the real sense, they were not able to conquer / annex the soul of a people like in the case of Nepal.

Some nations are so fixated to the past!!!!!!!!!!

usually the case when glory is fading or when an old viral itch recurs.