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by valleriam » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:40 am
Elif87 wrote:and there is no such thing as fierceness out sweetness in, if a candidate lacks presentation no matter how sweet she is she can't make the cut.
I think I need to address this comment because it is obviously based on what I said. I am talking about a trend that's been going on since 2009 in Miss Universe, I believe that the MUO is getting tired of the fierce, manufactured, over the top performers! Look at Stefania, Jimena and especially Leila! Leila herself lacks ramp skills, a great body and the presentation skills required to succeed in a pageant like Miss Universe, yet she beat the ''fierce'' girls (PR, VEN, KOSOVO)... I am not stating my opinion as a fact, I am just speaking based on what I've been observing since 2009 when the ''fierce'' girls went home empty handed (PR, DR, SA). I have base to back my opinion so I expect people to respect it and not to come here blabbing about something with no base.
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by Elif87 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:08 am
valleriam wrote:Elif87 wrote:and there is no such thing as fierceness out sweetness in, if a candidate lacks presentation no matter how sweet she is she can't make the cut.
I think I need to address this comment because it is obviously based on what I said. I am talking about a trend that's been going on since 2009 in Miss Universe, I believe that the MUO is getting tired of the fierce, manufactured, over the top performers! Look at Stefania, Jimena and especially Leila! Leila herself lacks ramp skills, a great body and the presentation skills required to succeed in a pageant like Miss Universe, yet she beat the ''fierce'' girls (PR, VEN, KOSOVO)... I am not stating my opinion as a fact, I am just speaking based on what I've been observing since 2009 when the ''fierce'' girls went home empty handed (PR, DR, SA). I have base to back my opinion so I expect people to respect it and not to come here blabbing about something with no base.

No, it is not based on what you said, I've been telling this for like 1 week since everyone is talking about it.
First of all especially 2000-2003-2004-2005-2007&2008 were not fierce and over the top smug performers either, they beat up the bitchy ones. They were elegant and had a warm smile on their faces yet they had a really great stance but not in a bitchy way. Thats what I'm talking about. The fierce, cocky, lacking warmth candidates never win, its not something new and didn't start with 2009.
Zuleyka maybe an exception but she was in another level on that stage.
Leila won because MUO wanted an Angolan for a decade! and 2011 was the worst year ever in the history.
and by the way Leila's stying was probably one of the best and although she may lack some walking skills, she had something on that stage, she was looking beautiful and elegant, at least she was looking statuesque when she was standing.
But this doesn't necessarily mean that a mediocre candidate like Agnes will beat Tereza.
I'm not bubbling without my bases, this is my back and this is a fact.
Please don't get this as an attack to your opinion, I've been trying to defend my opinion for like a week everywhere in every topic, this is not about you
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by valleriam » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:04 pm
Elif87 wrote:valleriam wrote:Elif87 wrote:and there is no such thing as fierceness out sweetness in, if a candidate lacks presentation no matter how sweet she is she can't make the cut.
I think I need to address this comment because it is obviously based on what I said. I am talking about a trend that's been going on since 2009 in Miss Universe, I believe that the MUO is getting tired of the fierce, manufactured, over the top performers! Look at Stefania, Jimena and especially Leila! Leila herself lacks ramp skills, a great body and the presentation skills required to succeed in a pageant like Miss Universe, yet she beat the ''fierce'' girls (PR, VEN, KOSOVO)... I am not stating my opinion as a fact, I am just speaking based on what I've been observing since 2009 when the ''fierce'' girls went home empty handed (PR, DR, SA). I have base to back my opinion so I expect people to respect it and not to come here blabbing about something with no base.

No, it is not based on what you said, I've been telling this for like 1 week since everyone is talking about it.
First of all especially 2000-2003-2004-2005-2007&2008 were not fierce and over the top smug performers either, they beat up the bitchy ones. They were elegant and had a warm smile on their faces yet they had a really great stance but not in a bitchy way. Thats what I'm talking about. The fierce, cocky, lacking warmth candidates never win, its not something new and didn't start with 2009.
Zuleyka maybe an exception but she was in another level on that stage.
Leila won because MUO wanted an Angolan for a decade! and 2011 was the worst year ever in the history.
and by the way Leila's stying was probably one of the best and although she may lack some walking skills, she had something on that stage, she was looking beautiful and elegant, at least she was looking statuesque when she was standing.
But this doesn't necessarily mean that a mediocre candidate like Agnes will beat Tereza.
I'm not bubbling without my bases, this is my back and this is a fact.
Please don't get this as an attack to your opinion, I've been trying to defend my opinion for like a week everywhere in every topic, this is not about you 
I understand, but it looks like you are referring to my comment. Anyway, I do recognize the potential in Tereza, in fact, the overall package of Tereza is better than Agnes'. However, my choice was based on beauty, Agnes scores a little higher in the beauty scale
from my point of view. I am not ignoring the fact that Tereza is very much capable of going very far in Miss Universe though.
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