Are the winners selected using different criteria?

[Jon A]

I was just reading the book "Making Miss India Miss World" by Susan Dewey, who was given an unprecedented level of access to Miss India in 2003 as part of the organization's plan to make itself truly transparent. Susan was given access to all the applications, with the judges' comments, observed the selection process, and lived with and attended the training program with the girls, who she got to know very well.

Among some interesting revelations:

1. Judges were given extensive power point presentations of 1-2 hours on how exactly to score each aspect
2. The pageant was run by Pradeep Guha between 1992-2002 (which interestingly, is when it started to go down) when the focus shifted from finding a Miss India to finding a MW or MU who happened to be Indian
3. The Miss Universe winner was chosen based on her physical beauty and height, because of the belief that "intelligence did not matter in Miss Universe." The Miss World winner was chosen based on her speaking abilities because they believed that "at Miss World, qualities other than just physical beauty are important," while the Miss Earth winner was a girl who was "not quite good enough for the major pageants, but deserved to represent the country internationally."

I wonder if this is true? Susan had access to all the scoring sheets etc. so I suppose it may be the case? But I wonder...

[wingsofnightingale]

Miss Universe has changed by leaps and bounds since 2004...what they are worried about is the Viewers ratings. The glorious Miss Universe era that we saw till Amelia Vega's victory has totally vanished. But still Femina changed itself and tried to send the girls who could be of MUO's taste. Like earlier a simple girl who was polished into a beauty queen they started looking out for established models like Neha kapur etc but they knew MU is slowly and steadily turning into a business...A CHEESY ONE. but Femina still had big mouth winners like Nikita anand and amrita thapar who were a THAPPAD on Femina's face. and finally when they felt that sending girls to MU is a waste of time money and efforts, they gave up franchisee. result is NO HOST, TRANGENDER PARTICIPATION & GIRLS SELLING LEMONADE IN BIKINI....in no time it will slip in the rankings even below the most laughed upon Miss International pageant!



Miss world on the other hand has always looked for deserving girls. whosoever from India made it in MW was not only beautiful outside but inside also. Let me say THEY NEVER LOOKED FOR OVERTONED SKELETONS .


Miss Earth....ROFL.....what happened last year....I HAVE LEFT THIS PAGEANT COMPLETELY ! NEXT !!

[baliga]

In short, all the major pageants have lost their credibility. The 'winner' need not be the 'best' that night. It's all about marketing (and I hate to say this).

[Roopesh]

Miss Universe has changed by leaps and bounds since 2004...what they are worried about is the Viewers ratings. The glorious Miss Universe era that we saw till Amelia Vega's victory has totally vanished. But still Femina changed itself and tried to send the girls who could be of MUO's taste. Like earlier a simple girl who was polished into a beauty queen they started looking out for established models like Neha kapur etc but they knew MU is slowly and steadily turning into a business...A CHEESY ONE. but Femina still had big mouth winners like Nikita anand and amrita thapar who were a THAPPAD on Femina's face. and finally when they felt that sending girls to MU is a waste of time money and efforts, they gave up franchisee. result is NO HOST, TRANGENDER PARTICIPATION & GIRLS SELLING LEMONADE IN BIKINI....in no time it will slip in the rankings even below the most laughed upon Miss International pageant!



Miss world on the other hand has always looked for deserving girls. whosoever from India made it in MW was not only beautiful outside but inside also. Let me say THEY NEVER LOOKED FOR OVERTONED SKELETONS .


Miss Earth....ROFL.....what happened last year....I HAVE LEFT THIS PAGEANT COMPLETELY ! NEXT !!

I have to agree with wings MU is slowly loosing it's charm . Miss Earth or International will never become as famous as Miss World or Miss Universe but Miss universe is on the verge of decline and it won't be surprising if they curtain fall on it very soon.

[Jon A]

Miss Universe has changed by leaps and bounds since 2004...what they are worried about is the Viewers ratings. The glorious Miss Universe era that we saw till Amelia Vega's victory has totally vanished. But still Femina changed itself and tried to send the girls who could be of MUO's taste. Like earlier a simple girl who was polished into a beauty queen they started looking out for established models like Neha kapur etc but they knew MU is slowly and steadily turning into a business...A CHEESY ONE. but Femina still had big mouth winners like Nikita anand and amrita thapar who were a THAPPAD on Femina's face. and finally when they felt that sending girls to MU is a waste of time money and efforts, they gave up franchisee. result is NO HOST, TRANGENDER PARTICIPATION & GIRLS SELLING LEMONADE IN BIKINI....in no time it will slip in the rankings even below the most laughed upon Miss International pageant!



Miss world on the other hand has always looked for deserving girls. whosoever from India made it in MW was not only beautiful outside but inside also. Let me say THEY NEVER LOOKED FOR OVERTONED SKELETONS .


Miss Earth....ROFL.....what happened last year....I HAVE LEFT THIS PAGEANT COMPLETELY ! NEXT !!

I have to agree with wings MU is slowly loosing it's charm . Miss Earth or International will never become as famous as Miss World or Miss Universe but Miss universe is on the verge of decline and it won't be surprising if they curtain fall on it very soon.

Agree with everything said here. I used to wait for MU, it was such a glamorous and classy contest, the pinnacle of pageantry, now it is just cheap and cringe worthy. I think that most major national pageants are far better than MU at this point in terms of what they have to offer. Trump has just ruined it. The scandals, the public humiliations of the winners, the low budget "activities", "Mall Beauty" "Chicken Wings Beauty" "Lemonade Panty beauty" seriously!! This has become just one step ahead of all these Miss Banana Coffee pageants.

[duskyrono]

but all the miss goody two shoes wait secretly in anticipation for MU and follow the pageant ardently. i hardly tnk anyone waits eagerly for MW!! but of coz when sumone frm india wins hell break lose

[Jon A]

Well, I hope they can restore MU to its former glory. I think Leila is a good start - she's beautiful, gracious...and I think MUO seems to have finally gotten the message that "bad press" is not good in the context of a pageant.

[sleepingdiva]

Miss World is only pageant with credibility rest are business minded pageants worst being Miss Earth

[abshk07]

I was just reading the book "Making Miss India Miss World" by Susan Dewey, who was given an unprecedented level of access to Miss India in 2003 as part of the organization's plan to make itself truly transparent. Susan was given access to all the applications, with the judges' comments, observed the selection process, and lived with and attended the training program with the girls, who she got to know very well.

Among some interesting revelations:

1. Judges were given extensive power point presentations of 1-2 hours on how exactly to score each aspect
2. The pageant was run by Pradeep Guha between 1992-2002 (which interestingly, is when it started to go down) when the focus shifted from finding a Miss India to finding a MW or MU who happened to be Indian
3. The Miss Universe winner was chosen based on her physical beauty and height, because of the belief that "intelligence did not matter in Miss Universe." The Miss World winner was chosen based on her speaking abilities because they believed that "at Miss World, qualities other than just physical beauty are important," while the Miss Earth winner was a girl who was "not quite good enough for the major pageants, but deserved to represent the country internationally."

I wonder if this is true? Susan had access to all the scoring sheets etc. so I suppose it may be the case? But I wonder...

I HAVE RECENTLY DONE A IN-DEPTH INTERVIEW FOR MY RESEARCH WITH SUSAN C DEWEY FROM UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING!! She is gr8 women...nice to talk and very friendly in nature.

[Jon A]

Have you read the book? It is very interesting!

[Ramesh]

Few months back i remember i did go through few pages of this book and this is also available as E-book..

http://freebooksearcher.info/downloadbook.php?id=32518