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Postby Jon A » Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:52 am


e_maris wrote:Well, I am sorry, I don't have ANYTHING against transsexuals and their form of life, but I will not follow MU anymore once the pageant starts to be full of transsexuals, because MU is for REAL WOMEN and I started to follow a pageant for naturally born women, not transsexuals, there's a place for everything and MU is not the place for transsexuals, if I wan't to see that kind of pageant I would watch Miss International Queen and whatever, but I don't follow it because that's not my interest, so MU wouldn't be the exception. There's countries that will obviously withdraw, as if MU needs more withdraws... Sorry to say this, but like many have said, it's the beginning of the end of MU, and of course, maybe the first time we see a transsexual in MU the ratings will reach the sky because it's something never seen, but much more negative stuff will come with it also. Also, if this happened to MU, we'll start to see more transsexuals asking for the same benefits for all the pageants, so, it's gonna start sooner or later, beauty pageants for real women will cease to exist sooner or later. Oh, and i'm not being dramatic and i'm not exaggerating, i'm just looking at the future, at what will eventually happen after this decision, because obviously, none of that will happen in just two years or so...

BTW, in Puerto Rico, our National Director already said that she won't allow Transsexuals, she said, that before allowing transsexuals, Trump should give opportunities to other women, like women with kids or married, because MU celebrates the beauty and feminity of women, and all women should have the same opportunities...


It will not really be her choice. PR follows US laws, and the MUPR is a "captive" franchise for MU, so they have to follow the MU guidelines. If Desiree denies entry to transsexuals and/or rigs it against their win, she is going to only lock herself into a long and ugly legal and PR fight.
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Postby MATIUS » Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:00 am


bifnaked wrote:I dont have a problem with this! Good job Miss Universe hahahahah

Now THAILAND will be the new POWERHOUSE!!!! >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p


Get ready Thailand... LOL
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Postby unbreakable » Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:04 am


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Postby Cello » Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:07 am


I know this is a sensitive issue...But this is the last website in THE WORLD I'd be expecting all this gender-bashing from...I'm really appalled, believe me.
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Postby jamokzzgaga » Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:13 am


This will gonna be a Ms. Gay Contest. :D
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Postby vincent101 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:16 am


im gay and i totally disagree gays and transgenders joining the pageant, it is something that is not right for the history of the pageant, the true women who joined and joining the said contest...Im sorry to my fellow gays and transgenders but its not going to work!! this isnt our pageant
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Postby isabel_lavida » Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:33 am


bashers can bash all they want, they can say every dirty word they can think of but at the end of the day NOBODY CARES. NOT MUO AND NOT DONALD TRUMP. bigotry will never matter and nobody will listen to bigots who are nobodies. There are so many know it alls on here and the whole world has just proven that your opinions don't matter, because if it did, Barbara walters would have interviewed all of you, but guess who got featured on her show? guess who got represented by Gloria Allred? and guess who got to be in so many international news all over the world? The same person whose name leaves a bitter taste on your tongues!!!
Nobody knows any of you, and whether or not she wins miss U or miss canada, we all know and will never forget who Jenna Talackova is. So who's laughing now???

YOU ARE JUST LIKE DOGS BARKING AT THE MOON!!!!!!!!
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Postby MISS SWEET THING » Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:06 am


Transexual should go to their own contest.

I dont want to see them at Miss Universe or World :-O :-O :-O :-O :-O :-O
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Postby inside.lingo » Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:19 am


This will gonna be a Ms. Gay Contest. :D


This is disgusting for many reasons.

1) You are making her sexuality, the issue of sexuality, a joke. There is a clear difference between ridiculing, and acknowledging the complicated nature of this issue and disagreeing with the decision to allow transexual women compete.

2) This also implies lesbian women shouldn't compete. Although we have not had a famous case of a lesbian competing at an international pageant, I would love for them too, because they would present such a unique perspective on the world, their role as an international beauty queen and their role as a representative of the LGBT community around the world.

Comments like these need to stop. If a correspondent, someone who is designated as official by missosology itself, is shocked and appalled by statements such as these in the forum, there is a clear issue that needs to be addressed.
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Postby e_maris » Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:46 am


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e_maris wrote:Well, I am sorry, I don't have ANYTHING against transsexuals and their form of life, but I will not follow MU anymore once the pageant starts to be full of transsexuals, because MU is for REAL WOMEN and I started to follow a pageant for naturally born women, not transsexuals, there's a place for everything and MU is not the place for transsexuals, if I wan't to see that kind of pageant I would watch Miss International Queen and whatever, but I don't follow it because that's not my interest, so MU wouldn't be the exception. There's countries that will obviously withdraw, as if MU needs more withdraws... Sorry to say this, but like many have said, it's the beginning of the end of MU, and of course, maybe the first time we see a transsexual in MU the ratings will reach the sky because it's something never seen, but much more negative stuff will come with it also. Also, if this happened to MU, we'll start to see more transsexuals asking for the same benefits for all the pageants, so, it's gonna start sooner or later, beauty pageants for real women will cease to exist sooner or later. Oh, and i'm not being dramatic and i'm not exaggerating, i'm just looking at the future, at what will eventually happen after this decision, because obviously, none of that will happen in just two years or so...

BTW, in Puerto Rico, our National Director already said that she won't allow Transsexuals, she said, that before allowing transsexuals, Trump should give opportunities to other women, like women with kids or married, because MU celebrates the beauty and feminity of women, and all women should have the same opportunities...


It will not really be her choice. PR follows US laws, and the MUPR is a "captive" franchise for MU, so they have to follow the MU guidelines. If Desiree denies entry to transsexuals and/or rigs it against their win, she is going to only lock herself into a long and ugly legal and PR fight.

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No hun, Puerto Rico does not follow ALL US laws, PR has it's own laws too. We are not a state of the US, we're a common wealth, in spanish it means ESTADO LIBRE ASOCIADO, a FREE STATE THAT'S ASSOCIATED TO USA, we don't follow all US laws by default. The rules of MUPR say that only naturally born females can compete, so if at the moment of presenting their birth certificate, it says that they were born males, they can't compete, as simple as that. The MUPR Organization is like any other national pageant that has it's own rules and has nothing to do with MU nor MUSA, our political status has nothing to do with anything. Like she said herself, all National Pageants have their own rules that not necessarily have to follow the rules of MU, any change of the MU rules does not affect the MUPR organization. If Desirée chooses to change to rules just to follow the MU rules, that's different, but it's not obligatory for her to do so.

Oh and I forgot, MUPR does not only crown a girl for MU, they also crown 4 other girls for other pageants.
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Postby three_default » Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:46 am


Thailand will soon dominate the Miss Universe Pageant with this new rules from Trump.
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Re: NO TO TRANSGENDER WOMEN

Postby manies_flip » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:25 am


wow, I actually thought people here will be supporting Jenna, anyway I don't really care about this matter. Jenna actually look more like a woman than a Tranny so I guess she is an exception. But as far as I can see it, countries will not be following this trend anytime soon. Except for maybe Asia... like Thailand for example they have very feminine looking Trannys.
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Postby MARIO/GOD OF BEAUTY » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:34 am


MATIUS wrote:
bifnaked wrote:I dont have a problem with this! Good job Miss Universe hahahahah

Now THAILAND will be the new POWERHOUSE!!!! >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p


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Postby kokimotok » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:09 am


wild!! I'm still weighing where will I stand on this issue.. I feel its right, but something is holding me back.. :-O :-O :-O :-O
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Postby Smile » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:20 am


I hope Jenna wins Miss Canada. All those who are so outraged will watch MU because they can't help themselves. If you don't want to watch, then don't. If you are so offended by this, maybe you need to rethink your priorities.
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Postby Ayulani » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:56 am


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There will be far more beautiful than this, I've already seen better even, as we're living in the cutting edge technology era, you can even change your voice.
Once they're allowed, there's no reason to not letting them WIN!
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Postby Pablijo » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:34 am


am I the only one who dont see the big deal?

I mean, is like abortion. Just because is legal does not mean that everyone will do it.

So ok, transexuals are now allowed, it wont mean that they will win every single national pageant in the world.

And if they do, is only because they're beautiful. And they're legally women.

Anyway. I think if MUO allowed this, they should allowed married women or mothers too.

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Postby MATIUS » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:36 am


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There will be far more beautiful than this, I've already seen better even, as we're living in the cutting edge technology era, you can even change your voice.
Once they're allowed, there's no reason to not letting them WIN!
Do not underestimate them.


soon Miss Universe will change its title to Miss Trans Universe because alien beauties around the universe will sue MUO for copyright title. =;))


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Postby Ditto » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:39 am


So they still don't allow short women to compete
nor women who are overweight
nor women who are married

But men who've changed sex are allowed 8-} L-) [-X
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Postby vijay0213 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:47 am


GOOD TO SEE SOME SANE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST THIS INSOLENT ACT MADE BY TRUMP THE SKUNK
WHAT HAS HE CHANGED MISS UNIVERSE INTO!? AN EVENT OF BOOBSHOW,NUDITY,POLITICS............SERIOUSLY TRUMP IF U WANT A MODEL TO DO YOUR WORK THEN FIND SOME1 SEPARATELY MU IS NOT FOR YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA IT'S A PAGEANT WHERE WOMEN FROM EVERY CORNER OF THE WORLD DESIRE TO COMPETE IN AND ONLY THE DESERVING ONES QUALIFY!,
YOU'RE NOT A FASHION GURU X( TO SHAMELESSLY "HANDPICK" SOME GIRLS AND EVEN ADMIT IT OPENLY. AND NOW YOU'VE DONE THIS KNOWING THAT MOST OF THE FANS WOULD BE AGAINST IT, JUST WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO DO WITH MU!? STAY AWAY U RETARD =/
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Postby MATIUS » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:08 am


vijay0213 wrote:GOOD TO SEE SOME SANE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST THIS INSOLENT ACT MADE BY TRUMP THE SKUNK
WHAT HAS HE CHANGED MISS UNIVERSE INTO!? AN EVENT OF BOOBSHOW,NUDITY,POLITICS............SERIOUSLY TRUMP IF U WANT A MODEL TO DO YOUR WORK THEN FIND SOME1 SEPARATELY MU IS NOT FOR YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA IT'S A PAGEANT WHERE WOMEN FROM EVERY CORNER OF THE WORLD DESIRE TO COMPETE IN AND ONLY THE DESERVING ONES QUALIFY!,
YOU'RE NOT A FASHION GURU X( TO SHAMELESSLY "HANDPICK" SOME GIRLS AND EVEN ADMIT IT OPENLY. AND NOW YOU'VE DONE THIS KNOWING THAT MOST OF THE FANS WOULD BE AGAINST IT, JUST WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO DO WITH MU!? STAY AWAY U RETARD =/
SHAME ON TRUMP AND SHAME ON ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING THIS PREPOSTEROUS ACT


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MATIUS wrote:
vijay0213 wrote:GOOD TO SEE SOME SANE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST THIS INSOLENT ACT MADE BY TRUMP THE SKUNK
WHAT HAS HE CHANGED MISS UNIVERSE INTO!? AN EVENT OF BOOBSHOW,NUDITY,POLITICS............SERIOUSLY TRUMP IF U WANT A MODEL TO DO YOUR WORK THEN FIND SOME1 SEPARATELY MU IS NOT FOR YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA IT'S A PAGEANT WHERE WOMEN FROM EVERY CORNER OF THE WORLD DESIRE TO COMPETE IN AND ONLY THE DESERVING ONES QUALIFY!,
YOU'RE NOT A FASHION GURU X( TO SHAMELESSLY "HANDPICK" SOME GIRLS AND EVEN ADMIT IT OPENLY. AND NOW YOU'VE DONE THIS KNOWING THAT MOST OF THE FANS WOULD BE AGAINST IT, JUST WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO DO WITH MU!? STAY AWAY U RETARD =/
SHAME ON TRUMP AND SHAME ON ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING THIS PREPOSTEROUS ACT


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Re: MISS UNIVERSE BENDS , TRANSEXUALS ALLOWED FROM N0W ON

Postby Imperial » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:19 am


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vijay0213 wrote:GOOD TO SEE SOME SANE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST THIS INSOLENT ACT MADE BY TRUMP THE SKUNK
WHAT HAS HE CHANGED MISS UNIVERSE INTO!? AN EVENT OF BOOBSHOW,NUDITY,POLITICS............SERIOUSLY TRUMP IF U WANT A MODEL TO DO YOUR WORK THEN FIND SOME1 SEPARATELY MU IS NOT FOR YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA IT'S A PAGEANT WHERE WOMEN FROM EVERY CORNER OF THE WORLD DESIRE TO COMPETE IN AND ONLY THE DESERVING ONES QUALIFY!,
YOU'RE NOT A FASHION GURU X( TO SHAMELESSLY "HANDPICK" SOME GIRLS AND EVEN ADMIT IT OPENLY. AND NOW YOU'VE DONE THIS KNOWING THAT MOST OF THE FANS WOULD BE AGAINST IT, JUST WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO DO WITH MU!? STAY AWAY U RETARD =/
SHAME ON TRUMP AND SHAME ON ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING THIS PREPOSTEROUS ACT


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HE MIGHT BE SMART, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH DESIRING TO MAKE A STATEMENT,
WHAT'S WRONG IS CORRUPTING SOMETHING SO PRESTIGIOUS AND TRANSFORMING IT INTO SOMETHING UGLY!


trannies in your country may be ugly but thats not everywhere =0 =0 =0
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE BENDS , TRANSEXUALS ALLOWED FROM N0W ON

Postby ms_melanie » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:22 am


I'm not here to bash "her" gender. I also belong to the LGBT group and I know where I stand. What I don't understand is "her" ambitious dream of conquering this beauty pageant which was made for women. We all know that "her" gender is already modified but still, "her" body is producing testosterone.

We seek equality among human and the society however, traditions and norms are still important. Personally, I believe she's putting us on shame.
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE BENDS , TRANSEXUALS ALLOWED FROM N0W ON

Postby jimmusan » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:45 am


ms_melanie wrote:I'm not here to bash "her" gender. I also belong to the LGBT group and I know where I stand. What I don't understand is "her" ambitious dream of conquering this beauty pageant which was made for women. We all know that "her" gender is already modified but still, "her" body is producing testosterone.

We seek equality among human and the society however, traditions and norms are still important. Personally, I believe she's putting us on shame.


Kudos to you miss Melanie for sharing your insights you know how it feels becoz your a transgender also... =D> =D> =D> BTW is that ur bf on your avatar????
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE BENDS , TRANSEXUALS ALLOWED FROM N0W ON

Postby senorita » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:51 am


infinite =O/
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE BENDS , TRANSEXUALS ALLOWED FROM N0W ON

Postby ms_melanie » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:10 pm


jimmusan wrote:
ms_melanie wrote:I'm not here to bash "her" gender. I also belong to the LGBT group and I know where I stand. What I don't understand is "her" ambitious dream of conquering this beauty pageant which was made for women. We all know that "her" gender is already modified but still, "her" body is producing testosterone.

We seek equality among human and the society however, traditions and norms are still important. Personally, I believe she's putting us on shame.


Kudos to you miss Melanie for sharing your insights you know how it feels becoz your a transgender also... =D> =D> =D> BTW is that ur bf on your avatar????


Thanks so imuusan! BTW, I'm not a transgender. I categorize myself as gay. The guy in my picture is my "ambition". CHAR!
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE BENDS , TRANSEXUALS ALLOWED FROM N0W ON

Postby GlamRock » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:16 pm


MARIO/GOD OF BEAUTY wrote:
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bifnaked wrote:I dont have a problem with this! Good job Miss Universe hahahahah

Now THAILAND will be the new POWERHOUSE!!!! >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p


Get ready Thailand... LOL
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Zuleyka or the lady boy??
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HMMMMMMMMM, MISS THAILAND LOOKS GOOD,KINDA LIKE A COPY CAT OF THE STUNNING AND FIERCE ZULEYKA... :-D



oh! I'D GO WITH THE LADY BOY!!! Damn.

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Re: MISS UNIVERSE BENDS , TRANSEXUALS ALLOWED FROM N0W ON

Postby sunriseson » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:34 pm


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e_maris wrote:Well, I am sorry, I don't have ANYTHING against transsexuals and their form of life, but I will not follow MU anymore once the pageant starts to be full of transsexuals, because MU is for REAL WOMEN and I started to follow a pageant for naturally born women, not transsexuals, there's a place for everything and MU is not the place for transsexuals, if I wan't to see that kind of pageant I would watch Miss International Queen and whatever, but I don't follow it because that's not my interest, so MU wouldn't be the exception. There's countries that will obviously withdraw, as if MU needs more withdraws... Sorry to say this, but like many have said, it's the beginning of the end of MU, and of course, maybe the first time we see a transsexual in MU the ratings will reach the sky because it's something never seen, but much more negative stuff will come with it also. Also, if this happened to MU, we'll start to see more transsexuals asking for the same benefits for all the pageants, so, it's gonna start sooner or later, beauty pageants for real women will cease to exist sooner or later. Oh, and i'm not being dramatic and i'm not exaggerating, i'm just looking at the future, at what will eventually happen after this decision, because obviously, none of that will happen in just two years or so...

BTW, in Puerto Rico, our National Director already said that she won't allow Transsexuals, she said, that before allowing transsexuals, Trump should give opportunities to other women, like women with kids or married, because MU celebrates the beauty and feminity of women, and all women should have the same opportunities...


I couldn't have expressed the problem better. Of course this in the slow end of the prestige of the Miss Universe pageant. I just don't want to wake up one day and learn that one of the oldest and best beauty pageant in the whole word has been won by someone who used to be a man. This is not about tolerance or equality here, but there is a place for everything in life and I don't think transsexuals should take part in a pageant made for real women.

The thing is that, the past week, we've seen plenty of comments against transgender people in a negative way mostly, but we have to separate those two issues because they are not the same. I don't have anything against transsexual people because I can understand that they wanted to change sex for a X or Y reason, but it doesn't give them the right to be part of something that isn't made for them.

MUO just made the wrong choice here. Plus, I believe this is pretty hypocritical because obviously they just wanted people to believe that they respect human rights and everything, but I'm pretty sure they won't allow a transgender woman to be part of the semi finalists and even less win the crown...so the whole story is pointless, they just did it BAD!


True... you two blew that out... =D>
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