MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

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MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby firerprince » Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:08 pm

    



According to the National Director of Miss Earth France, Eddy Lefaux, Miss Earth 2021 will be held virtually. Miss Elegance France 2021 @candice.gvr will now compete in Miss Globe 2021 instead of Miss Earth.

Carousel Productions is yet to release the official venue and date of Miss Earth pageant.


Here are the reaction of some Pinoy fans:

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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby firerprince » Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:20 pm



RECAP/UPDATES WITH BIG 6 PAGEANTS:

1. Miss Grand International 2020 happened last March in Bangkok, Thailand being the 1st in the Top 6 pageants to do so for 2020 edition.
Thailand that time has low covid cases. Miss Grand International 2021 was initially scheduled on December same venue, however due to the rising covid cases in Thailand, they decided to cancel the Bangkok hosting and rumors say it will be held in Cambodia on December. Cambodia has low covid cases.

2. Miss Universe 2020 happened last May in Hollywood, Florida. Though the state of Florida that time has massive Covid cases, strict rules for the pageant were implemented by MUO. No single candidate tested positive with Covid vs 2 to that of MGI 2020. Miss Universe 2021 is now all set on December to Eilat, Israel. Israel has top tier vaccination role out and currently has low Covid cases.

3. Miss Supranational just finished their 2021 edition with Malopolska, Poland as host. Miss Supra org decided to move the pageant to Malopolska for the region has the lowest covid cases in the country. Candidates for both Ms and Mr are more than 100 with most of them on their way home and no one is yet to test positive for Covid. They skipped 2020.

4. Miss World 2021 will happen in Puerto Rico on December. They skipped 2020.

5. Miss International 2021, as per Mega Angkasa ( national director for Indonesia ) Miss International will be cancelled once again for 2021. MIO org already cleared out that VIRTUAL PAGEANT will not be their option.


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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby andydmoray » Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:21 pm


While the virtual pageant can work as a stopgap, it doesn't make any sense to continue it for another edition. Of course safety is of priority, but the virtual pageant doesn't offer the contestants some real fun of being part of a competition. I applaud Miss Grand, Miss Supranational and Miss Universe for making a real pageant and let the girls have some fun during this pandemic. Hopefully, MEO can come up with a solution, if not, I'd rather they canceled it or postponed it to a later date when regulations in the Philippines are loosened a little bit.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby ajsy0203 » Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:14 pm

This was already discussed few days ago:
Should Carousel hold a live pageant for Miss Earth 2021?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1907569

The problem is Alpha, Beta, Delta, Lambda and other variants continued to wreak havoc especially in Asia and Oceania. It would had been okay if there was no variants existed and aggressive vaccinations with minimal health protocols.

So it is okay to lose more delegates with live pageants (50-70 candidates as opposed to 80+)?
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby firerprince » Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:25 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:This was already discussed few days ago:
Should Carousel hold a live pageant for Miss Earth 2021?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1907569

The problem is Alpha, Beta, Delta, Lambda and other variants continued to wreak havoc especially in Asia and Oceania. It would had been okay if there was no variants existed and aggressive vaccinations with minimal health protocols.

So it is okay to lose more delegates with live pageants (50-70 candidates as opposed to 80+)?


Im pretty sure not only Asia and the Philippines is capable of hosting a pageant.
What's wrong having 50+ contestants? The VERY successful Miss Supranational pageant had 58 contestants was there ever an issue with that? LOLS
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby ajsy0203 » Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:40 pm

firerprince wrote:
ajsy0203 wrote:This was already discussed few days ago:
Should Carousel hold a live pageant for Miss Earth 2021?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1907569

The problem is Alpha, Beta, Delta, Lambda and other variants continued to wreak havoc especially in Asia and Oceania. It would had been okay if there was no variants existed and aggressive vaccinations with minimal health protocols.

So it is okay to lose more delegates with live pageants (50-70 candidates as opposed to 80+)?


Im pretty sure not only Asia and the Philippines is capable of hosting a pageant.
What's wrong having 50+ contestants? The VERY successful Miss Supranational pageant had 58 contestants was there ever an issue with that? LOLS


ME: From 85 to 83 (lost of 2%)
Miss Universe: From 90 to 74 (lost of 17%)
MS: From 77 to 58 (lost of 25%)
Major contributing factor were the delegates from Africa and Oceania, although Namibia won MS few days ago.

Miss World Philippines still unable to hold their pageant because IATF still not approved their permission to hold the pageant safely and their coronation night is postponed indefinitely. Only the IATF can approve the live pageant or not.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby vinusya » Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:51 pm

Gosh. why not held in other country?
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby ajsy0203 » Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:00 pm

I don't know if MSO do the PCR-Testing to all the 80+ delegates of Mr. & Miss Supranational to make sure all the delegates are safe especially if some of the candidates were not vaccinated? Because I did not see anyone following health protocols and spent lots of money on lots of wardrobes and video background for the finals unlike at Miss Universe last May.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby andydmoray » Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:00 pm

vinusya wrote:Gosh. why not held in other country?


I guess an easy answer would be "no country bothers to host a pageant under the current circumstances."
Major pageant-enthusiastic countries either have their own pageants to host or are unable to stage a pageant, such as Thailand. I don't think any European country will invest money in hosting a beauty pageant which is not based there.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby ne0n » Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:25 pm

I have already brace myself if this is indeed true. There will be severe backlash and I understand how some will bash the org to high heavens, and I won't hold it against them. Their feelings and opinions are valid (just remain respectful). MEO is lacking in their logistical and planning aspects and it's time to get their act together, like seriously.

But just I cannot NOT support Miss Earth, whether it be live, virtual, a postponement or just skipping the year altogether.

Sorry, I just can't. Call me a blinded fan but the pageant aspect is just secondary for me, I can totally give up pageantry and move on to other things but being more environmentally conscious and going that path is where I am seriously getting myself into, but that's just me.

As long as there are girls like Lindsey and all the past and future queens who can find a platform at Miss Earth to really reach out and bring something more worthwhile and genuinely inspirational (and stay fab at the same time), I am here to support them.

Miss Earth, for me, is more than Carousel, or pageantry, or being nationalistic, it's the concept of a global community sharing a more progressive way of life that is more sustainable and respectful to our environment. And that is what everyone should seriously take into account, like right now.

As Queen Lindsey put it: "it's about constantly learning and growing - evolving to become Miss Earth every single day by the choices that we make. And we can all be Miss Earth, if we only believe in hope, love, and life." And I thank you.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby lesham » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:49 pm

They should postpone it. I doubt the Philippine borders will open this year.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby sleuth08 » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:05 pm

ONCE AGAIN WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM CAROUSEL PROD.

AS MUCH AS WE WANT A LIVE PAGEANT. WE STILL DO NOT KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 4 MONTHS. MAYBE THE VIRUS CASE WILL GO DOWN, MAYBE IT WILL GO UP

AND EVEN IF THEY TAKE ALL PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES, WE HAVE TO THINK THERE IS STILL A POSSIBILITY THE VIRUS MIGHT SPREAD AMONG THE DELEGATES

YES THAT DID NOT HAPPEN IN MISS UNIVERSE AND MGI. BUT IF THE PAGEANT HAPPENS IN THE PHILIPPINES, AND KNOWING HOW PINOYS ARE EVADING PROTOCOLS AND QUARANTINE THERE - WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN

LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO ECO INTL

AND YES, THE RECENT SUPRA DID WELL. BUT ONE THING IN COMMON WITH ALL THESE PAGEANTS IS THAT THE NUMBER WENT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY - IN THE DOUBLE DIGITS.

UNLESS THAT IS ALRIGHT WITH MOST FANS, BUT NOT ME.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby Fushigi » Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:38 pm

Uh oh, it's better to postpone it this year.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby Stoichio » Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:39 pm




Kelan ka pa naging Miss Earth follower Weiwei?? :-j



If it’s going to be virtual again, I will not follow it.
But I hope they will crown 4 GODDESSES to compensate for their ineptitude.


And why can’t they just do it early next year?


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Postby manoypoe » Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:44 pm

When Miss World and Miss International did not hold a pageant for 2020, nothing was heard from the noisy Pinoys. Nada. Miss Earth braved the odds, held a successful virtual pageant with the support of their national directors, it was a indeed success and produced one of the best Earth Queens ever. If the pageant was not virtual, I dont think, we would have Queen Lindsey. She is the gem of the virtual pageant.

For this year, I would rather have them postpone the pageant. Or proceed with a hybrid pageant. They can skip a year too like Miss World and Miss International too but starting 2022, they cant hold it in the Philippines because of the elections. I think, it would be better for them to proceed with 2022 hosting in Vietnam. Skipping a year is much better than having it virtual again. Once is enough.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby ajsy0203 » Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:55 pm

Parang sirang plaka?
Pageant fans are pushing Miss Earth to hold a live pageant is just like the Twitter users are pushing LeVar Burton to be the next host of Jeopardy!
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Postby JustinSky » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:44 am

[size=150]I suspect that Carousel is in the red that's why they cannot afford to postpone the pageant cause they need the fees from the NDs to keep their organization afloat.

Holding a live pageant may decrease the number of delegates that means less profit for the org. /size]
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Postby Geeyourhair » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:30 am

I am okay for ME to cancel this year if postponement is not an option. Wala namang mawawala kung magskip actually. Lindsey can continue her reign for the awareness campaign instead of staging a virtual pageant na kunti lang din ang manonood.
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Postby Handsama » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:42 am

JustinSky wrote:I suspect that Carousel is in the red that's why they cannot afford to postpone the pageant cause they need the fees from the NDs to keep their organization afloat.

Holding a live pageant may decrease the number of delegates that means less profit for the org. /size]
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Are you listening to yourself? This type of comments from purported Earthlings is why Miss Earth gets bashed. [-(
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Postby mybadname » Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:17 am

Postpone the pageant. Pronto! Wag ipilit ang virtual pageant na yan. D ko na yan susuportahan.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:08 am

I would rather have 50 contestants with a real pageant than 100 contestants with a virtual pageant. If it’s not safe to hold a real pageant, just cancel it.
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Postby manoypoe » Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:05 am

Jonathan Nguyen wrote:I would rather have 50 contestants with a real pageant than 100 contestants with a virtual pageant. If it’s not safe to hold a real pageant, just cancel it.


Since 2022 is reported to be in Vietnam, better cancel 2021 or postpone it and hold it in Vietnam early next year.

With more lethal variant, even the holding of other pageants will be affected.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby jhunz23 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:37 am

Imagine if Philippines or any other country will host the pageant, and after the pageant caused Community Transmission of the virus or worst causing the emergence of a new variant.
The girls cannot travel to the site that they need to travel.
The Org will be tremendous scrutiny and will be attacked left and right.
The risk is just too high. Is not just the candidates who are involved, also the make up artists, styling staff, hosts and production staff, etc etc.

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Postby manoypoe » Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:54 am

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Imagine if Philippines or any other country will host the pageant, and after the pageant caused Community Transmission of the virus or worst causing the emergence of a new variant.
The girls cannot travel to the site that they need to travel.
The Org will be tremendous scrutiny and will be attacked left and right.
The risk is just too high. Is not just the candidates who are involved, also the make up artists, styling staff, hosts and production staff, etc etc.

MapapaYosi Galore si Madam Loraine, mga isang rim per day, tsarot!


Major pageants are in precarious situation with what you have stated. They are all in damn if you do and damn if you dont situation. Narrowminded fans dont care what will happen to the girls and the orgs as long as their cravings are satisfied.

Miss Universe has financial and problems too. I have read a rumor that they might stage a virtiual pageant and only Top5 will battle it out in a live pageant.

With all honesty, I think Miss World, Miss International and Miss Universe live stagings will be affected by the current delta or new variants of corona virus. If there will be postponements, will the rabid bashers of Miss Earth brand or call these pageants as poor? Lack of preparations and foresights, etc etc?

By the way, for once, think like owners of Miss Earth or other pageants before demanding too much.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby Poseidon88 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:58 am

Ka cheapan lang yang virtual pageant na yan! If Binibini can do it why they can't??? =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%))
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Postby manoypoe » Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:17 am

Poseidon88 wrote:Ka cheapan lang yang virtual pageant na yan! If Binibini can do it why they can't??? =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%))


Hindi ka yata updated. Nag postpone nga Bb. Pilipinas di ba? Medyo nag ease out ang restriction nong May kaya nakaraos sila after one year. Aware ka bang naapektuhan ang Miss World Philippines dahil sa delta variant at tumataas na naman ang mga kaso? Kung allowed na ng IATF ang mass gatherings at safe na kahit paano, do you think, hindi mag la live ang Miss Earth? Minsan mag isip din, gamitin ang utak, analisahin din bago magpakawala ng mga hindi pinag iisipang opinion.
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby vinusya » Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:24 am

When is the official announcement that it is virtual?
If everyone can be a beauty queen, what is hardwork?
Maybe there is no hardwork, only surgeries ?
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby manoypoe » Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:45 am

vinusya wrote:When is the official announcement that it is virtual?


Wait and see. If I am part of the org, I will wait and see what will happen. Since they are not announcing, I think they really want a live pageant.

They might also be watching the progress of other orgs. So much drama not only in Miss Earth but also with Miss Universe and MI. Dont know about MW yet.
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Postby ajsy0203 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:57 am

Beauty Pageants are Essential during pandemic?
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Re: MISS EARTH 2021 VIRTUAL? AGAIN?

Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:10 am

Jonathan Nguyen wrote:I would rather have 50 contestants with a real pageant than 100 contestants with a virtual pageant. If it’s not safe to hold a real pageant, just cancel it.


I also hear a rumor about Vietnam hosting Miss Earth in 2022. Hope it’s true. Vietnam’s covid cases are soaring now but i believe it will be back to normal in 2022.
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