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Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby Lord Marie_Juana » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:26 am

    

Miss Earth organizer speaks up about alleged sexual harassment incidents

Published November 8, 2018 3:10pm

By JANNIELYN ANN BIGTAS, GMA News

Pageant organizer and president of Carousell Productions Lorraine Schuck confirmed that they immediately banned the alleged harasser that contestants were complaining about from events after the Manila Yacht Club incident on October 14.

"Lahat naman 'yon na-address n'ong October 14 pa. I found out about it tapos siyempre kung sino man 'yong nag-sexual harass na sinasabi nila, bin-nan naman namin," Lorraine told GMA News Online in a phone interview on Thursday morning.

News of alleged sexual harassment during the recently concluded Miss Earth pageant spread on Wednesday evening after Miss Canada Jaime VandenBerg claimed she experienced almost two weeks of sexual harassment during the pageant.

Among the incidents she narrated was the October 14 sponsored dinner at the Manila Yacht Club, which two other contestants, Miss England Abbey-Anne Gyles-Brown and Miss Guam Emma Sheedy, also pinpointed in their respective Instagram posts on Thursday morning, Manila time.

The October 14 Yacht Club Incident

According to Miss Canada, it was during the dinner at the Yacht Club when the troublesome sponsor made them uncomfortable. "He took the delegates in my group to his yacht and had some girls take sultry photos," Miss Canada wrote in her Instagram post.

Miss England meanwhile said the Yacht club dinner was "a sponsored evening meal away from team managers behind closed doors. The sponsor tried to find out which hotel and room I was staying in."

Miss Guam said that the sponsor tried to keep security away from the girls during the same dinner.

According to Lorraine, she immediately spoke with Miss England on the phone, upon learning about the Oct 14 incident.

"Kinausap ko si [Miss] England, na you know 'I'm gonna ban him in our events.' Sabi ko, 'don't worry and don't be scared' kasi hindi naman siya judge. Kaya daw nila hindi sinasabi kasi takot sila tapos kasi daw baka points against them sabi ko hindi at all," she said.


But because the coronation night was a public event, they couldn't do anything about it.

"Pagdating sa coronation night, because it's a public event hindi naman namin kontrolado, kahit pulis namin walang magawa d'on," she said.

Lorraine said, despite having no control of the attendees, she made sure that the girls had their own police escorts so no one could come near them.

"Nanuod n'ong coronation night pero you know 'yong mga pulis pinagbabawal, sa mga babae na walang makalapit, so he watched the event."

Get it documented

Lorraine said she also asked the girls to write a report about their experiences so should they decide to sue the sponsor, she could also support them.

"In fact, itong report na 'to, kaya ako nagpagawa ng report sa lahat sa kanila kasi kung totoo, ma-collaborate nilang lahat 'to, they can sue the guy and I will suport them," she said.

Lorraine said most of the candidates did not complain about any sexual harassment incidents except for the group who were at the Yacht Club last October 14.

"Kasi pinasulat ko lahat ng girls ng written report ng buong event, kung may harassment na nangyari and ang karamihan n'on, eh talagang wala. May konting nagsasabi na may tumatawag sa kanila pero bino-block nila, tapos 'etong group na 'to, 'eto lang naman 'yong may nangyari sa Yacht Club."

On Miss Guam's allegations of touching

In her Instagram post, Miss Guam Emma Sheedy said the sponsor grabbed her bare backside during the National Costume Competition.

But Lorraine said she did not know how Miss Guam could've been touched when they had police officers with them all the time.

"'Di ko alam saan nanggaling 'yong kay Guam na hinawakan siya sa puwet, at hindi niya nire-report 'yan. Nagtanong na ako sa kanilang lahat at hindi nila ni-rereport, so hindi ko alam saan biglang sumulpot, so bakit kung may humawak sa kanya, alam nilang may police officer sila sa tabi nila."

Lorraine noted that the girls had been briefed since day one to report such incidents, should they unfortunately happen.

"Alam nilang dapat lapitan nila ang team manager. Bakit hindi nila ginawa? Bakit ngayon lang nila sasabihin 'to?" she asked perplexed.

Lorraine said she couldn't help but wonder if all of this was all planned, since she already addressed the problems on the day it happened.

"Because the problem was addressed. Kunwari may nangyari pa after, bakit hindi nila nire-report sa team manager at sa pulis?"

On how the sponsor obtained the beauty queens' numbers

When asked about how the sponsor got their number, Lorraine said she did not know how it happened. The only contact number organizers have of the candidates is their international contact numbers.

"Ang mga number nila, bumibili sila ng sim card. Alam mo ba, kami sa opisina, ni wala kaming isang number nila na local? Ang meron kami nila 'yung contact nila abroad, pero wala kaming number nila dito. So 'yon din ang tinatanong ko paano nakuha ang number nila n'ong mga taong to," Lorraine said.

Lorraine said the team managers contact the candidates through a group chat in Messenger.

"Eh kahit 'yong team managers tinanong ko, eh hindi ho namin alam kasi ang communication namin with them through messenger, nakagroup chat kaming lahat."

Who is 'Amado'?

It was Miss Earth Guam Emma Sheedy who named the alleged troublesome sponsor.

But Lorraine clarified that the Amado mentioned wasn't actually an official sponsor of the pageant. He only hosted food for the girls, Lorraine said, as he owned several restaurants near Manila Yacht Club and Intramuros where they took the girls for a tour.

"Hindi naman sponsorship yun nag-host sa pagkain. Hindi siya totoong sponsor," she said.

"'Yong Yacht Club, malapit lahat sa hotels nila. [Because of the] traffic, mas madaling kumain at mag-dinner ang mga babae in that area. Hindi sponsor ang Yacht Club. Individual member ng Yacht Club ang nag-sponsor so tinatawag na rin nating sponsor kasi nag-host [siya] ng food ng girls," Lorraine explained.

Miss Earth Canada, England and Guam shared their sexual harassment experiences in the Philippines during the Miss Earth pageant. Meanwhile Miss Earth Cuba countered the sexual harassment claims of her fellow candidates. — LA, GMA News

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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby Trixie Clairette » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:37 am

SO MISS CANADA IS LYING...?
The statement of Miss Canada Jamie Yvonne VandenBerg
why she left during the Miss Earth 2018 competition.

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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby Trixie Clairette » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:44 am

SO, MISS ENGLAND AND MISS GUAM IS ALSO LYING...???


Xanadu Tinkerbell wrote:
Miss Canada, Miss England and Miss Guam claims
they were sexually harassed in Miss Earth 2018

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READ THE SHOCKING STORY HERE:

https://entertainment.inquirer.net/3034 ... nsor-in-ph



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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby Lord Marie_Juana » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:59 am

Trixie did you understand the whole article written partially in Tagalog? :%))
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby TheK » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:21 am

"hindi siya sponsor ng pageant ... only hosted a dinner for them"
hmmm so essentially Miss VP is trying to distance itself from the alleged harasser but at the same time incriminates the org because that is essentially a lapse. piece of advice talk to a lawyer on how to release statements. :)>- for protection at least :)>- :)>-
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby beautywatchnyc » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:34 am


As always, there are 2 sides to a story and intelligent readers know how to discern. These girls find it convenient to besmirch MEO now that they are back in the home turf. It is imperative that Lorraine had to issue timely clarificatory statements to shed light on these issues. These girls have succeeded in getting their story out but trusting that in due course the real score will surface and find a conciliatory conclusion.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:43 am

TheK wrote:"hindi siya sponsor ng pageant ... only hosted a dinner for them"
hmmm so essentially Miss VP is trying to distance itself from the alleged harasser but at the same time incriminates the org because that is essentially a lapse. piece of advice talk to a lawyer on how to release statements. :)>- for protection at least :)>- :)>-


To the uninitiated, MEO/Carousel has under its payroll a battery of legal luminaries to handle any case that has an implication or bearing to legal matters both international and local. It will serve to be cautious in firing an opinion without due diligence. Lorraine was expected to say the truth and not otherwise. If she issues half-truths or near-truths, the challenges of experience in the past will ascertain that she cannot deviate any further from the truth. I caution readers to examine their conscience before casting blame on any one.
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby ne0n » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:54 am

Precisely beautywatchnyc, it must have taken a while to piece everything up thus the delay in issuing an official statement. The biggest challenge now is communication: the girls have gone home and further questions to build up a solid would not be as easy. But hopefully, the case will move forward as soon as possible so that this thing will be prevented. It is the welfare of pageant girls, current and future, that is of utmost importance.
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby TheK » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:45 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
TheK wrote:"hindi siya sponsor ng pageant ... only hosted a dinner for them"
hmmm so essentially Miss VP is trying to distance itself from the alleged harasser but at the same time incriminates the org because that is essentially a lapse. piece of advice talk to a lawyer on how to release statements. :)>- for protection at least :)>- :)>-


To the uninitiated, MEO/Carousel has under its payroll a battery of legal luminaries to handle any case that has an implication or bearing to legal matters both international and local. It will serve to be cautious in firing an opinion without due diligence. Lorraine was expected to say the truth and not otherwise. If she issues half-truths or near-truths, the challenges of experience in the past will ascertain that she cannot deviate any further from the truth. I caution readers to examine their conscience before casting blame on any one.

I also caution you to read and understand. im offering you a good suggestion. tell her to filter her words because those statements were very telling. lawyering up is not bad or suggestion of it. there are ways say truth without incriminating herself or the org she represents and there is also ways of saying truth without deviating from it . it also does not help such statements are already out in the public. to be clear to you just in case you cant understand. im actually technically her side on my point. Pageant answers is no shit when it comes to the court house. less talk less mistakes :)>-
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby beautywatchnyc » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:01 am

TheK wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
TheK wrote:"hindi siya sponsor ng pageant ... only hosted a dinner for them"
hmmm so essentially Miss VP is trying to distance itself from the alleged harasser but at the same time incriminates the org because that is essentially a lapse. piece of advice talk to a lawyer on how to release statements. :)>- for protection at least :)>- :)>-


To the uninitiated, MEO/Carousel has under its payroll a battery of legal luminaries to handle any case that has an implication or bearing to legal matters both international and local. It will serve to be cautious in firing an opinion without due diligence. Lorraine was expected to say the truth and not otherwise. If she issues half-truths or near-truths, the challenges of experience in the past will ascertain that she cannot deviate any further from the truth. I caution readers to examine their conscience before casting blame on any one.

I also caution you to read and understand. im offering you a good suggestion. tell her to filter her words because those statements were very telling. lawyering up is not bad or suggestion of it. there are ways say truth without incriminating herself or the org she represents and there is also ways of saying truth without deviating from it . it also does not help such statements are already out in the public. to be clear to you just in case you cant understand. im actually technically her side on my point. Pageant answers is no shit when it comes to the court house. less talk less mistakes :)>-



You issued a statement I fired back a reply. Why are you discomforted/triggered with what I was trying to say? I'm not against which side you're trying to defend. What made you damn sure that Lorraine faced her tormentors without due advice from her legal team? I think that you also understand that even lawyers do not necessarily own to the same opinion or legal advice when facing the adversary. It's not about you and me. Why the uncalled for shade?
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[quote="beautywatchnyc"
You issued a statement I fired back a reply. Why are you discomforted/triggered with what I was trying to say? I'm not against which side you're trying to defend. What made you damn sure that Lorraine faced her tormentors without due advice from her legal team? I think that you also understand that even lawyers do not necessarily own to the same opinion or legal advice when facing the adversary. It's not about you and me. Why the uncalled for shade? [/color][/quote]


Issuance of a statement is not the same is not the same as commenting online. Stop projecting because i can smell your fear from wherever you are as this issue is a BIG ONE. Lorraine obviously did not consult with her legal team when she uttered those words. it is an amateur mistake to disclose that information sponsorship status . when that DOM has only one specific business with the organization then why does he had that much access to the gurls. the mere that the girls perceived this man as a sponsor is good opening for any good lawyer out there. :)>-
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TheK wrote:"hindi siya sponsor ng pageant ... only hosted a dinner for them"
hmmm so essentially Miss VP is trying to distance itself from the alleged harasser but at the same time incriminates the org because that is essentially a lapse. piece of advice talk to a lawyer on how to release statements. :)>- for protection at least :)>- :)>-


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TheK wrote:[quote="beautywatchnyc"
You issued a statement I fired back a reply. Why are you discomforted/triggered with what I was trying to say? I'm not against which side you're trying to defend. What made you damn sure that Lorraine faced her tormentors without due advice from her legal team? I think that you also understand that even lawyers do not necessarily own to the same opinion or legal advice when facing the adversary. It's not about you and me. Why the uncalled for shade? [/color]



Issuance of a statement is not the same is not the same as commenting online. Stop projecting because i can smell your fear from wherever you are as this issue is a BIG ONE. Lorraine obviously did not consult with her legal team when she uttered those words. it is an amateur mistake to disclose that information sponsorship status . when that DOM has only one specific business with the organization then why does he had that much access to the gurls. the mere that the girls perceived this man as a sponsor is good opening for any good lawyer out there. :)>- [/quote]

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Lorraine Schuck Speaks About the Current Issue

Postby ne0n » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:02 pm

A detailed interview from Lorraine Schuck, Executive Vice President, Carousel Productions regarding the current issue.
It is not complete though, you be the judge.


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Postby manoypoe » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:13 pm

WITH THE INTERVIEW OF LORRAINE, YOU CAN SENSE SHE IS TELLING THE TRUTH. MISS EARTH WILL GET AWAY FROM THIS ISSUE.UNSCATHE. BUT THIS INCIDENT WILL HELP THEM IMPROVE AND BE BETTER AND STRONGER.
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby zoondwaine » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:43 pm

Good thing that Lorraine already speak up, although I'm on the side of girls in regards to the uncomfortable things said to them by an old hog but I think there is an exaggeration on the part of the girls on their story.

ME will provide a lawyer if they will pursue the case, let see how they respond to this. I hope they will pursue to file a case against that bastard so that he will forever vanish in ME activities for the next edition.

As for the trolls let them be they make the thread alive (though in a negative way), what's important, we already know the story for both side.
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Postby ambasing » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:45 pm

si ateng girl na pasimuno pagtatakpan ang mga sponsors niya..demonya =/ =/ =/

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There are mechanisms in place to protect them and air their grievances. SHE DID NOT TAKE THEM . Do you still believe in this woman? [-X
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby paradise alley » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:35 pm

Miss Earth is a cheap and a distasteful pageant..ewww.
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Spoke to a close friend of mine who has been a candidate of Ms. Earth. The org is very tolerant when it comes to that, f**k u Loraine!
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby QueenAnne » Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:44 pm

paradise alley wrote:Miss Earth is a cheap and a distasteful pageant..ewww.
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Spoke to a close friend of mine who has been a candidate of Ms. Earth. The org is very tolerant when it comes to that, f**k u Loraine!


And I spoke to a close friend of a cousin of this best friend's dog whose aunt is also a cousin of my hairstylist's neighbor's cat who all agreed that you're full of bull.


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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby beautywatchnyc » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:25 pm

TheK wrote:[quote="beautywatchnyc"
You issued a statement I fired back a reply. Why are you discomforted/triggered with what I was trying to say? I'm not against which side you're trying to defend. What made you damn sure that Lorraine faced her tormentors without due advice from her legal team? I think that you also understand that even lawyers do not necessarily own to the same opinion or legal advice when facing the adversary. It's not about you and me. Why the uncalled for shade? [/color]



Issuance of a statement is not the same is not the same as commenting online. Stop projecting because i can smell your fear from wherever you are as this issue is a BIG ONE. Lorraine obviously did not consult with her legal team when she uttered those words. it is an amateur mistake to disclose that information sponsorship status . when that DOM has only one specific business with the organization then why does he had that much access to the gurls. the mere that the girls perceived this man as a sponsor is good opening for any good lawyer out there. :)>- [/quote]

Fear! How do you know that? Don't put words into my mouth. Stop assuming. If you wanted to know the answers you seek, don't ventilate your frustrations here. You should know where to go.

BTW, I have no need for your suggestion. Find a messenger who will bring your message to Lorraine. I'm not that person. I don't work for you.
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby Paquita Banana » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:45 pm

Eh dapat palang magsabunutan talaga yang sina Lorraine Shuck at Nawat .
Parehas silang taklesa.
Hindi ko pinanood yang mga pageants nila ...and good thing I did .

Instead na kampihan ni Shuck yung mga victims eh trying pa to disprove the girls .
Liable naman talaga si Shuck because there’s a such as COMMAND RESPONSIBILITY.
First and foremost , she needs to apologize to the girls because she failed to provide safety and security to the candidates.
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby Paquita Banana » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:54 pm

Pinagawan lang ng statements yung mga victims at pina ban kuno yung Amado.
Tapos unexplained why nahipuan si Miss Guam while wearing her national costume and while this Amado was able to get the girls’ room and phone numbers .

Miss Canada was right to leave that pageant.. it’s unsafe .
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby selfridges » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:24 pm

It was clearly stated that they have been warned on the first day that if this kind of incident will happen report it to the ME org asap.....have they done that? a big NO! If Miss Canada felt that way why stay in the Philippines? she have gone home....
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby Bella14 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:05 pm

I dont think they are lying. May mga manyakis talaga kahit saang lupalop ng mundo!
kaya next time wag na kasi pag watak watakin ang mga gerlash.
hila doon hila dito kung saan saan

iba iba din kasi personality ng mga yan... ayan nakatapat nya si miss canada
at pati mga amiga nya Guam at England
mga talunan pa naman cla kaya ayan naku...
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby jesnude » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:41 pm

paradise alley wrote:Miss Earth is a cheap and a distasteful pageant..ewww.
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Spoke to a close friend of mine who has been a candidate of Ms. Earth. The org is very tolerant when it comes to that, f**k u Loraine!


BLAH BLAH BLAH ......MY FRIEND ALSO TOLD ME, THAT YOUR CLOSE FRIEND WHO HAPPENS TO BE A MISS EARTH CANDIDATE BEFORE IS A SLUT AND SHE WAS FLIRTING A SPONSOR TO GET THE CROWN. HOW IS THAT TO YOU???? HAPPY???
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby TheK » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:47 pm

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PARANG SOBRANG TALINO MO...PERO AT THE END OF THE DAY, PURO NGAWNGAW LANG ANG ALAM MO...BAYOT

so basically "Eh di wow" statement. AS if may mali pag may alam. :)>- dyan kayo magaling.... sa pag accept ng katangahan. :) what im saying is she should have stuck on a official statement. kapakanan din naman ng org ang bansa ko ang iniisip. KASI by the course of actions na pinapakita niyo dito IMBES NA you condem Sexual harassment or any form of harassment aba ang isa sa mga UNANG thread dito SUE Miss Canada for DEFAMATION.
next thing you read all of this deflections regarding the accusations of the girls.


Pinapaalala ko sa inyo just in case nakalimutan niyo nanakadikit din ang panganlan ng bansa natin sa pageant na yan. AYAW KO ISIPIN NG IBANG LAHI na kino-Condone and tino-Tolerate rate natin yang ganyang behavior ng sponsor. Pero you Earthlings are not making it easy for us.

Nakakadiri kayo at nakakasulasok :)>-
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Re: Madam Lorraine speaks up

Postby jesnude » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:48 pm

Paquita Banana wrote:Eh dapat palang magsabunutan talaga yang sina Lorraine Shuck at Nawat .
Parehas silang taklesa.
Hindi ko pinanood yang mga pageants nila ...and good thing I did .

Instead na kampihan ni Shuck yung mga victims eh trying pa to disprove the girls .
Liable naman talaga si Shuck because there’s a such as COMMAND RESPONSIBILITY.
First and foremost , she needs to apologize to the girls because she failed to provide safety and security to the candidates.


IT IS VERY EASY TO APOLOGISE IMPAKTITA, LET MEORG PLAY THEIR CARD DON'T DICTATE THEM, YOU'RE JUST AN ANT COMPARE TO THEM...MAHIYA KA SA BALAT MO.
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