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Sexual Harassment at Miss Earth, 4 girls speak out...

Postby pineal » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:52 am

    

Miss Earth Canada left the Miss Earth 2018 competition in between, she has now revealed why.
This is being discussed in a facebook group, while i haven't seen a post on Misso.
But I think Miss Earth fans should know this because only they can pressure the Miss Earth Org for any inquiry and more vigilance in future.

Here is her statement....

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Below is a reply from a Miss Earth manager, she acknowledges that something was wrong which made Miss Earth Canada uncomfortable and hence she was asked to wait in the bus, but also says that everything was done to support her.

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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby boompanes » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:03 am

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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby nycla2 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:04 am

I THINK MISS CANADA IS TELLING THE TRUTH :)>- :-O :-O
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Bonggacious_Miguel » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:42 am

I think Miss Canada is not telling the truth.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby firerprince » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:45 am

After reading Miss Canada's statement on IG, for fair judgement I waited for the reply of someone from MEO regarding this issue and when I had it I'm saddened that there's no denial on the part of sexual harassment which means they are probably aware of it too @-) The rumors with Katherine Espin sleeping with a sponsor were never proven but this type of new revelations from recent candidates tells a lot about it.
To the Filipinos who are hurt by Miss Canada's statements please be reasonable with your nasty comments on her IG. First of all, there's no reason to be hurt since The Philippines does not at any way represents and/or responsible for Miss Earth's actions just like MI to Japan, MW to UK or Miss Universe to the US. Filipinos are just TOO nationalistic to defend the pageant as if it is their country (this is called FAUX NATIONALISM which is also greatly seen on how Pinoys treats their President). ME is not for Filipinos but to the world, the Earth rather. WITH ALL OF THIS SAID, STOP BEING SO SHALLOW WITH HOW YOU HANDLE THE SITUATION WITH ME CANADA. I am extremely pissed with the comments I saw from my co-Pinoys calling ME CANADA various names such as attention-seeker, brat, ugly-loser , accusing her of fabricating stories just to make headlines since she's a clapper to begin with etc... Sexual harassment is a SERIOUS issue and (if the accusation is indeed true) NO sexually harassed person would want to hear such inhumane comments! We are humans first before we were Filipinos so be responsible and think better :=p I want to hear more from MEO. I still have no idea what side to believe but the truth will always prevail and it needs time so just wait for it. For the mean time STAY AWAY from ME CANADA's IG! >:<
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Busyboy » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:50 am

That's too sad. And I am definitely not discounting the discomfort she has felt. But why is her story inconsistent? One thing's not clear to me: If all of these are true, why stay in the Philippines if she doesn't feel safe? And accepting job offers on top of that. That's all.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby pineal » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:56 am

Busyboy wrote:That's too sad. And I am definitely not discounting the discomfort she has felt. But why is her story inconsistent? One thing's not clear to me: If all of these are true, why stay in the Philippines if she doesn't feel safe? And accepting job offers on top of that. That's all.


Miss Earth is not = Philippines, she can stay in Philippines wherever she feels safe, same with the job situation, she is still allowed to work and take jobs with people and Orgs she trusts. Though we have no clear evidence if her story is true, as it is likely to be in such cases unless the organisation that victim reported to does, kindly stop making such shallow arguments to discredit this incident. MEO needs to clarify this ASAP.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Busyboy » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:24 am

pineal wrote:
Busyboy wrote:That's too sad. And I am definitely not discounting the discomfort she has felt. But why is her story inconsistent? One thing's not clear to me: If all of these are true, why stay in the Philippines if she doesn't feel safe? And accepting job offers on top of that. That's all.


Miss Earth is not = Philippines, she can stay in Philippines wherever she feels safe, same with the job situation, she is still allowed to work and take jobs with people and Orgs she trusts. Though we have no clear evidence if her story is true, as it is likely to be in such cases unless the organisation that victim reported to does, kindly stop making such shallow arguments to discredit this incident. MEO needs to clarify this ASAP.


I am not discrediting this incident in anyway. And I am definitely not invalidating the discomfort she may have felt. I am asking a valid question here, why stay if she feels unsafe? That stalker or whoever that man is, can actually continue stalking her even more when she is already outside MEO’s care. So why stay? That’s a question.

And she is actually not allowed to take on jobs, that’s illegal, she doesn’t have working permit.

Just like many of us here, I would want this issue to be settled. And know the truth.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Lafeadamadelaindia » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:27 am

Her inconsistencies and changing accounts pose SERIOUS credibility issues.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby pineal » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:54 am

Busyboy wrote:
pineal wrote:
Busyboy wrote:That's too sad. And I am definitely not discounting the discomfort she has felt. But why is her story inconsistent? One thing's not clear to me: If all of these are true, why stay in the Philippines if she doesn't feel safe? And accepting job offers on top of that. That's all.


Miss Earth is not = Philippines, she can stay in Philippines wherever she feels safe, same with the job situation, she is still allowed to work and take jobs with people and Orgs she trusts. Though we have no clear evidence if her story is true, as it is likely to be in such cases unless the organisation that victim reported to does, kindly stop making such shallow arguments to discredit this incident. MEO needs to clarify this ASAP.


I am not discrediting this incident in anyway. And I am definitely not invalidating the discomfort she may have felt. I am asking a valid question here, why stay if she feels unsafe? That stalker or whoever that man is, can actually continue stalking her even more when she is already outside MEO’s care. So why stay? That’s a question.

And she is actually not allowed to take on jobs, that’s illegal, she doesn’t have working permit.

Just like many of us here, I would want this issue to be settled. And know the truth.


The answer to your valid question is that if she is in Philippines she is probably staying somewhere safe. If she doesn't have work permit and is still working then that is another legal issue unrelated to this incident, and why would she like to call attention to her alleged illegal work, and since everyone knows about this she'll be arrested or deported very soon if it is indeed true. You might not be trying to discredit her story, but these assumptions will be taken as facts by trolls and she'll be harassed and focus will shift from the real issue.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby pineal » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:55 am

Lafeadamadelaindia wrote:Her inconsistencies and changing accounts pose SERIOUS credibility issues.


what are the inconsistencies?
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Miss Bicolandia » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:02 am

This needs to be clarified further, although I am leaning towards believing most of her stories are fabricated. I hope all ends well with both parties.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Sophia7 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:18 am

If Miss Canada’s allegations are true
1. Why she did not call her ND?
2 why she did nit call her embassy?
3. Why she still hanging in the Philippines?
4. Why she was looking for a modeling job in the Philippines?
5. Sexual favor? Why she did not call a cop?

She is a conniving cunt gold digging Hooker who was looking for opportunity to get money.
Maybe she saw how naive and kind ME .org that she was looking for a loophole to sue to get money.

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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Sophia7 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:18 am

If Miss Canada’s allegations are true
1. Why she did not call her ND?
2 why she did nit call her embassy?
3. Why she still hanging in the Philippines?
4. Why she was looking for a modeling job in the Philippines?
5. Sexual favor? Why she did not call a cop?

She is a conniving cunt gold digging Hooker who was looking for opportunity to get money.
Maybe she saw how naive and kind ME .org that she was looking for a loophole to sue to get money.

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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Lord Marie_Juana » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:20 am

This thread will never reach settlement for two reasons:

1. If you are a fan of Miss Earth, you will defend the org.
2. If you are a hater of Miss Earth, you will believe in Miss Canada's accusations

So you are all just wasting your energy defending your chosen side! Mods, please delete this thread!

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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Lord Marie_Juana » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:22 am

Sophia7 wrote:If Miss Canada’s allegations are true
1. Why she did not call her ND?
2 why she did nit call her embassy?
3. Why she still hanging in the Philippines?
4. Why she was looking for a modeling job in the Philippines?
5. Sexual favor? Why she did not call a cop?

She is a conniving cunt gold digging Hooker who was looking for opportunity to get money.
Maybe she saw how naive and kind ME .org that she was looking for a loophole to sue to get money.

Miss Erath Canada 2018 is a hooking, money gold digging cunt! Buirikat!


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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby pineal » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:28 am

Lord Marie_Juana wrote:This thread will never reach settlement for two reasons:

1. If you are a fan of Miss Earth, you will defend the org.
2. If you are a hater of Miss Earth, you will believe in Miss Canada's accusations

So you are all just wasting your energy defending your chosen side! Mods, please delete this thread!

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This thread is not made to reach a settlement, no one here is a detective or a judge. It is made so people will know that something like this happened, so that MEO is pressured to release some information clarifying the issue. I don't know the status of MeToo movement in the Philippines, but we live in a post MeToo world and thank god for that. Every organisation is responsible to put sufficient guidelines in place to stop workplace sexual harassment, and if any of their employees fail to comply with them, take responsibility for it.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Ea'rend¿l » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:29 am

So if Lorraine Schuck says that Canada's allegation is not true, will you believe her?
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Postby Lord Marie_Juana » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:32 am

Ea'rend¿l wrote:So if Lorraine Schuck says that Canada's allegation is not true, will you believe her?


She will create a poll!! :%))
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Sophia7 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:41 am

MEO will need to sue miss Canada Earth 2018 for Defamation
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby hahahahuhu » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:45 am

pineal wrote:
Lord Marie_Juana wrote:This thread will never reach settlement for two reasons:

1. If you are a fan of Miss Earth, you will defend the org.
2. If you are a hater of Miss Earth, you will believe in Miss Canada's accusations

So you are all just wasting your energy defending your chosen side! Mods, please delete this thread!

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This thread is not made to reach a settlement, no one here is a detective or a judge. It is made so people will know that something like this happened, so that MEO is pressured to release some information clarifying the issue. I don't know the status of MeToo movement in the Philippines, but we live in a post MeToo world and thank god for that. Every organisation is responsible to put sufficient guidelines in place to stop workplace sexual harassment, and if any of their employees fail to comply with them, take responsibility for it.


You have already taken a side. However you try to diplomatically cover it. Having said that, let Miss Canada file a legal action against Miss Earth - after all she's already 'safe in Canada, then and only can we see see if she's telling the truth. Because in the court of law, every allegations need evidence and the burden of truth lies in the accuser. So, unless Miss Canada can produce hard evidence before the court of law, she is presumed lying.

Otherwise, as what the original poster said, you're either an earthling or an earthworm.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby pineal » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:46 am

Ea'rend¿l wrote:So if Lorraine Schuck says that Canada's allegation is not true, will you believe her?


I'll believe it if like any good organisation they have rules in place to deal with this issue, which will direct them to launch an independent inquiry by a neutral party. Show the people that you're not covering it up, that you're not just concerned about your PR, atleast teach fans that sexual harassment is infact a serious issue which won't be just brushed off. It is not new and it is not rocket science, by now many organisations around the world have set very good examples on how to properly go forward with such complaints.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Lord Marie_Juana » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:46 am

ME org will not do anything.. They will just let this issue die a natural death.. That's their advocacy! Composting garbage! =b
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Ea'rend¿l » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:55 am

pineal wrote:
Ea'rend¿l wrote:So if Lorraine Schuck says that Canada's allegation is not true, will you believe her?


I'll believe it if like any good organisation they have rules in place to deal with this issue, which will direct them to launch an independent inquiry by a neutral party. Show the people that you're not covering it up, that you're not just concerned about your PR, atleast teach fans that sexual harassment is infact a serious issue which won't be just brushed off. It is not new and it is not rocket science, by now many organisations around the world have set very good examples on how to properly go forward with such complaints.



I think MEO must learn from MWO org. So how did MWO org handle the alleged sexual harassment issue hurled by Miss Philippines when the pageant was hosted in China. I think it's a good example for MEO to follow.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Miss Bicolandia » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:56 am

Lord Marie_Juana wrote:
Ea'rend¿l wrote:So if Lorraine Schuck says that Canada's allegation is not true, will you believe her?


She will create a poll!! :%))


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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Lord Marie_Juana » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:03 pm

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Ea'rend¿l wrote:So if Lorraine Schuck says that Canada's allegation is not true, will you believe her?


She will create a poll!! :%))


HAHAHAHA. Obvious namang may side na sya lol.


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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby filipinoako28 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:05 pm

Ea'rend¿l wrote:
pineal wrote:
Ea'rend¿l wrote:So if Lorraine Schuck says that Canada's allegation is not true, will you believe her?


I'll believe it if like any good organisation they have rules in place to deal with this issue, which will direct them to launch an independent inquiry by a neutral party. Show the people that you're not covering it up, that you're not just concerned about your PR, atleast teach fans that sexual harassment is infact a serious issue which won't be just brushed off. It is not new and it is not rocket science, by now many organisations around the world have set very good examples on how to properly go forward with such complaints.



I think MEO must learn from MWO org. So how did MWO org handle the alleged sexual harassment issue hurled by Miss Philippines when the pageant was hosted in China. I think it's a good example for MEO to follow.


And the THREAD SUDDENLY STOPPED! That was savage Cap. Agree with LMJ. People who are posting here already have picked a side (me included) This has been circulating for about a month. I am too tired to repeat myself over and over.
Let me just say, if you were able to know how this story developed right from the very start, you will be so over Canada’s claim. Her convoluted, exaggerated story is more dizzying than the movie MAZE.
But yeah, castigate ME and not the actual alleged perp.

Not only MW Cap, remember Nawat’s original winner in MGI 2015?
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby pineal » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:13 pm

filipinoako28 wrote:
Ea'rend¿l wrote:
pineal wrote:
Ea'rend¿l wrote:So if Lorraine Schuck says that Canada's allegation is not true, will you believe her?


I'll believe it if like any good organisation they have rules in place to deal with this issue, which will direct them to launch an independent inquiry by a neutral party. Show the people that you're not covering it up, that you're not just concerned about your PR, atleast teach fans that sexual harassment is infact a serious issue which won't be just brushed off. It is not new and it is not rocket science, by now many organisations around the world have set very good examples on how to properly go forward with such complaints.



I think MEO must learn from MWO org. So how did MWO org handle the alleged sexual harassment issue hurled by Miss Philippines when the pageant was hosted in China. I think it's a good example for MEO to follow.


And the THREAD SUDDENLY STOPPED! That was savage Cap. Agree with LMJ. People who are posting here already have picked a side (me included) This has been circulating for about a month. I am too tired to repeat myself over and over.
Let me just say, if you were able to know how this story developed right from the very start, you will be so over Canada’s claim. Her convoluted, exaggerated story is more dizzying than the movie MAZE.
But yeah, castigate ME and not the actual alleged perp.

Not only MW Cap, remember Nawat’s original winner in MGI 2015?


No, I am just used to trolls trying to deflect from the actual issue by starting a discussion about unrelated events
And anyone who doesn't like sexual harassment claims being brought to light can get the hell out of here
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby Ea'rend¿l » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:15 pm

filipinoako28 wrote:
Ea'rend¿l wrote:
pineal wrote:
Ea'rend¿l wrote:So if Lorraine Schuck says that Canada's allegation is not true, will you believe her?


I'll believe it if like any good organisation they have rules in place to deal with this issue, which will direct them to launch an independent inquiry by a neutral party. Show the people that you're not covering it up, that you're not just concerned about your PR, atleast teach fans that sexual harassment is infact a serious issue which won't be just brushed off. It is not new and it is not rocket science, by now many organisations around the world have set very good examples on how to properly go forward with such complaints.



I think MEO must learn from MWO org. So how did MWO org handle the alleged sexual harassment issue hurled by Miss Philippines when the pageant was hosted in China. I think it's a good example for MEO to follow.


And the THREAD SUDDENLY STOPPED! That was savage Cap. Agree with LMJ. People who are posting here already have picked a side (me included) This has been circulating for about a month. I am too tired to repeat myself over and over.
Let me just say, if you were able to know how this story developed right from the very start, you will be so over Canada’s claim. Her convoluted, exaggerated story is more dizzying than the movie MAZE.
But yeah, castigate ME and not the actual alleged perp.

Not only MW Cap, remember Nawat’s original winner in MGI 2015?


I dont know about MGI. I'm only familiar about Maggie Wilson's claim that the sponsor touched her butt and the boobs of the other candidates as well. Not only her but 80% of the candidates.


MISS WORLD EXPERIENCE. Ano ba ang nangyari at hindi siya masaya kay Madam Stella?

"Why I am not happy with her? I guess because when I was competing in China, I was physically harassed by our sponsors. Hinawakan yung puwet ko, tapos yung ibang girls, dinakma ang boobs! Siyempre, hindi nilabas sa press kasi nasa kontrata ko, bawal," pagsisiwalat ni Maggie.

Aniya pa, "Chinese sponsors sila, isang malaking kumpanya. Nabastos ako. Ay, sinampal ko talaga siya, 'no! Yung humawak sa akin. Sabi ko, 'Don't touch me!' Ginanun ko siya."

Hindi pa raw tapos ang Miss World pageant noon, pero wala raw pakialam si Maggie.

"Dyusko, I'd rather have my dignity, di ba? I'd rather have my dignity than pumayag ako na bastusin ako para manalo ako, di ba?

"Nang tumawag ako kay Stella, sinabihan niya ako na tapusin ko, wala siyang ginawa. Gusko ko nang umalis, ayoko na, sinabihan lang niya ako na 'Just finish it, you have to finish it.'

"Sabi ko... You know, wala na akong nagawa. And naano ako sa kanya dahil wala siyang ginawa para matulungan ako or anything. So, na-put off ako. Tinapos ko siya [the pageant], pero alam ko na noon na ayokong manalo," lahad ni Maggie.

Bakit?

"Kasi yun nga... Yung Miss World din, wala rin silang ginawa. Yung organization mismo wala rin silang ginawa," himutok niya.

Hindi lang siya ang kandidata na naka-experience nun?

"Hindi, 80 percent ng girls, binastos!" sabi ni Maggie.


Link: https://www.pep.ph/news/27066/updated-m ... ompetition





So for that particular instance, I really want to know what MWO did to resolve the problem. Coz it is something that MEO needs to emulate.
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Re: Miss Earth Canada, Sexually Harassed?

Postby pineal » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:19 pm

Ea'rend¿l wrote:
filipinoako28 wrote:
Ea'rend¿l wrote:
pineal wrote:
Ea'rend¿l wrote:So if Lorraine Schuck says that Canada's allegation is not true, will you believe her?


I'll believe it if like any good organisation they have rules in place to deal with this issue, which will direct them to launch an independent inquiry by a neutral party. Show the people that you're not covering it up, that you're not just concerned about your PR, atleast teach fans that sexual harassment is infact a serious issue which won't be just brushed off. It is not new and it is not rocket science, by now many organisations around the world have set very good examples on how to properly go forward with such complaints.



I think MEO must learn from MWO org. So how did MWO org handle the alleged sexual harassment issue hurled by Miss Philippines when the pageant was hosted in China. I think it's a good example for MEO to follow.


And the THREAD SUDDENLY STOPPED! That was savage Cap. Agree with LMJ. People who are posting here already have picked a side (me included) This has been circulating for about a month. I am too tired to repeat myself over and over.
Let me just say, if you were able to know how this story developed right from the very start, you will be so over Canada’s claim. Her convoluted, exaggerated story is more dizzying than the movie MAZE.
But yeah, castigate ME and not the actual alleged perp.

Not only MW Cap, remember Nawat’s original winner in MGI 2015?


I dont know about MGI. I'm only familiar about Maggie Wilson's claim that the sponsor touched her butt and the boobs of the other candidates as well. Not only her but 80% of the candidates.


MISS WORLD EXPERIENCE. Ano ba ang nangyari at hindi siya masaya kay Madam Stella?

"Why I am not happy with her? I guess because when I was competing in China, I was physically harassed by our sponsors. Hinawakan yung puwet ko, tapos yung ibang girls, dinakma ang boobs! Siyempre, hindi nilabas sa press kasi nasa kontrata ko, bawal," pagsisiwalat ni Maggie.

Aniya pa, "Chinese sponsors sila, isang malaking kumpanya. Nabastos ako. Ay, sinampal ko talaga siya, 'no! Yung humawak sa akin. Sabi ko, 'Don't touch me!' Ginanun ko siya."

Hindi pa raw tapos ang Miss World pageant noon, pero wala raw pakialam si Maggie.

"Dyusko, I'd rather have my dignity, di ba? I'd rather have my dignity than pumayag ako na bastusin ako para manalo ako, di ba?

"Nang tumawag ako kay Stella, sinabihan niya ako na tapusin ko, wala siyang ginawa. Gusko ko nang umalis, ayoko na, sinabihan lang niya ako na 'Just finish it, you have to finish it.'

"Sabi ko... You know, wala na akong nagawa. And naano ako sa kanya dahil wala siyang ginawa para matulungan ako or anything. So, na-put off ako. Tinapos ko siya [the pageant], pero alam ko na noon na ayokong manalo," lahad ni Maggie.

Bakit?

"Kasi yun nga... Yung Miss World din, wala rin silang ginawa. Yung organization mismo wala rin silang ginawa," himutok niya.

Hindi lang siya ang kandidata na naka-experience nun?

"Hindi, 80 percent ng girls, binastos!" sabi ni Maggie.


Link: https://www.pep.ph/news/27066/updated-m ... ompetition





So for that particular instance, I really want to know what MWO did to resolve the problem. Coz it is something that MEO needs to emulate.


If you want to know, make a thread about it, approach whoever you seem fit, why are you trying to deflect from Miss Earth Canada's story, what is bothering you. Burn Miss World to the ground if you want, but don't try this cheap trick here.
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