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Postby divine_nymph » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:20 am

    

I like this idea...I love the proportion or percentage of the races presented here in this suggestion who should be chosen to sit as judges to a beauty pageant such as Miss Earth. We will know who will truly shines the most - a stand out who will linger in your mind for a long time. I also like the taste of these races when it comes to beauty contests.

I like it if most of the preliminary judges were PURE BLOODED Latinos, Americans and Europeans - at least 50% of all preliminary judges were Latinos, 20% Americans and 10% were Europeans the rest Filipinos. In the finals, I want the telecast judges would be 40% Latinos, 30% Americans, 10% Europeans and 20% Filipinos. There were at least 15 judges. I like Latinos and Americans preferences when it comes to selecting a BEAUTY QUEEN!


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Postby hauteegirl » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:12 am

Really???

When Denise quinones won.. all judges were americans except one judge. So who was the winner? an american.. of course PR is american.



Miss Earth 2015 in Austria - 99% were european... winner is Philippines... it doesnt matter who's the judge. they just dont want the philippines to win out of jealousy :%))


and you want latino judges coz you want latinos to win. it's all relative.
=;))
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Postby divine_nymph » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:19 am

hauteegirl wrote:Really???

When Denise quinones won.. all judges were americans except one judge. So who was the winner? an american.. of course PR is american.



Miss Earth 2015 in Austria - 99% were european... winner is Philippines... it doesnt matter who's the judge. they just dont want the philippines to win out of jealousy :%))


and you want latino judges coz you want latinos to win. it's all relative.
=;))


but I prefer that way and regardless of that, at least I will have a peace of mind knowing that there is this proportion of judges Latinos, Europeans, Americans and Asians and I can always find good reasons why they choose this woman as the winner of the contest.
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Postby Rivermoss » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:20 am

hauteegirl wrote:Really???

When Denise quinones won.. all judges were americans except one judge. So who was the winner? an american.. of course PR is american.



Miss Earth 2015 in Austria - 99% were european... winner is Philippines... it doesnt matter who's the judge. they just dont want the philippines to win out of jealousy :%))


and you want latino judges coz you want latinos to win. it's all relative.
=;))


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Postby drew_andrew » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:42 am

INDONESIAN JUDGES SO THAT THEY WILL WIN THE CROWN 100% AND WILL NOT FOREVER BITTER WITH MISS EARTH AND PINOYS ANYMORE. =;)) =;)) =;)) :%)) :%))
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Re: MISS EARTH JUDGES SUGGESTIONS

Postby divine_nymph » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:27 am

You can always interchange the proportions or percentage of judges between Latinos, Americans and Europeans every year and seldom Filipinos so as not to be bias or play favoritism and you can include African and a few Asian judges so as to complete the diversity of the panel of judges.
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Re: MISS EARTH JUDGES SUGGESTIONS

Postby divine_nymph » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:33 am

Rivermoss wrote:
hauteegirl wrote:Really???

When Denise quinones won.. all judges were americans except one judge. So who was the winner? an american.. of course PR is american.



Miss Earth 2015 in Austria - 99% were european... winner is Philippines... it doesnt matter who's the judge. they just dont want the philippines to win out of jealousy :%))


and you want latino judges coz you want latinos to win. it's all relative.
=;))


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Remember not only Latinos are the judges there are also Europeans, Americans and Filipinos among the panel of judges which also comprises HALF OF THE JUDGES which can spell the difference between favoritism and the clear most deserving winner so you can't accuse that it is just favoring the Latinos. Say the Latinos gives very high scores to their Latino contestants and very low on other contestants there is this other half who can also give them (the Latinas) very low scores and very high scores on other contestants so you can see the difference and see who stands out. It is about taste, flair and preference for someone who is different among others. That's is the role of the proportion of the judges to distinguish who really SHINES the most and not favoritism to a specific contestant of your own country. and As I said you can always interchange the proportion or percentage of judges based on their races every year.
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Postby Totoypasiboy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:12 am

In the spirit of equality and fainess, why not make it 20% Hispanic, 20% American, 20% European, 20% African and Oceanic, and 20% Asian so that all regions will be properly and equally represented.
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The selection of "contenders" to compose the judging panel is based on a set of evaluative verifiable criteria. It should not be based on the individual observer's whim and caprice. The selection process is deliberated at length and the final list released only after a thorough background evaluation is concluded. The whole process takes months to accomplish. Personal integrity, industry reputation, professional and academic achievements are some of the attributes where any hint or published record of any wrong doing disqualifies a possible contender to sit in the panel. A screening committee (ad-hoc) is set up where all the members of impeccable performance (in both their personal and professional pursuits) are tasked with the stringent selection process. I'm speaking from personal experience (not as a panelist) but as a former "tempo" runner of an functioning Corporate Affairs, Public Relations & Marketing Division of a major conglomerate that handles a national pageant under its wings. Talking of evaluative criteria, that deserve another topic for discussion.
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Postby mrgary » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:41 am

divine_nymph wrote:I like this idea...I love the proportion or percentage of the races presented here in this suggestion who should be chosen to sit as judges to a beauty pageant such as Miss Earth. We will know who will truly shines the most - a stand out who will linger in your mind for a long time. I also like the taste of these races when it comes to beauty contests.

I like it if most of the preliminary judges were PURE BLOODED Latinos, Americans and Europeans - at least 50% of all preliminary judges were Latinos, 20% Americans and 10% were Europeans the rest Filipinos. In the finals, I want the telecast judges would be 40% Latinos, 30% Americans, 10% Europeans and 20% Filipinos. There were at least 15 judges. I like Latinos and Americans preferences when it comes to selecting a BEAUTY QUEEN!


WTF! Did you read out loud and listen to your post?! You sounded like an idiot.
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The selection of "contenders" to compose the judging panel is based on a set of evaluative verifiable criteria. It should not be based on the individual observer's whim and caprice. The selection process is deliberated at length and the final list released only after a thorough background evaluation is concluded. The whole process takes months to accomplish. Personal integrity, industry reputation, professional and academic achievements are some of the attributes where any hint or published record of any wrong doing disqualifies a possible contender to sit in the panel. A screening committee (ad-hoc) is set up where all the members of impeccable performance (in both their personal and professional pursuits) are tasked with the stringent selection process. I'm speaking from personal experience (not as a panelist) but as a former "tempo" runner of an functioning Corporate Affairs, Public Relations & Marketing Division of a major conglomerate that handles a national pageant under its wings. Talking of evaluative criteria, that deserve another topic for discussion.



Let's say they adhere to all the rules you mentioned or stipulated whatsoever my point is RACE... their races Latinos, Europeans, Americans which meets all your criteria and qualifications to be judges we want this kind of proportion to get the kind of woman who will be the winner.
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Postby divine_nymph » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:12 pm

Oh by the way someone said in the main Miss Earth 2018 Coverage thread that the org. really wanted to crown a Vietnamese as Miss Earth. Now I know why there are two Vietnamese who served as judges last Saturday.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:48 pm

divine_nymph wrote:Oh by the way someone said in the main Miss Earth 2018 Coverage thread that the org. really wanted to crown a Vietnamese as Miss Earth. Now I know why there are two Vietnamese who served as judges last Saturday.


You don't besmirch MEO's integrity and reputation built over 18 years of hard work by a conspiracy theory or unfounded perception.
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The selection of "contenders" to compose the judging panel is based on a set of evaluative verifiable criteria. It should not be based on the individual observer's whim and caprice. The selection process is deliberated at length and the final list released only after a thorough background evaluation is concluded. The whole process takes months to accomplish. Personal integrity, industry reputation, professional and academic achievements are some of the attributes where any hint or published record of any wrong doing disqualifies a possible contender to sit in the panel. A screening committee (ad-hoc) is set up where all the members of impeccable performance (in both their personal and professional pursuits) are tasked with the stringent selection process. I'm speaking from personal experience (not as a panelist) but as a former "tempo" runner of an functioning Corporate Affairs, Public Relations & Marketing Division of a major conglomerate that handles a national pageant under its wings. Talking of evaluative criteria, that deserve another topic for discussion.



Let's say they adhere to all the rules you mentioned or stipulated whatsoever my point is RACE... their races Latinos, Europeans, Americans which meets all your criteria and qualifications to be judges we want this kind of proportion to get the kind of woman who will be the winner.


Is that suggestion even practical, realistic and credible?
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Postby hauteegirl » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:05 pm

divine_nymph wrote:Oh by the way someone said in the main Miss Earth 2018 Coverage thread that the org. really wanted to crown a Vietnamese as Miss Earth. Now I know why there are two Vietnamese who served as judges last Saturday.




someone said this, someone said that. Since when do you listen to gossipmongers?
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Postby Miss Bicolandia » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:28 pm

divine_nymph wrote:
hauteegirl wrote:Really???

When Denise quinones won.. all judges were americans except one judge. So who was the winner? an american.. of course PR is american.



Miss Earth 2015 in Austria - 99% were european... winner is Philippines... it doesnt matter who's the judge. they just dont want the philippines to win out of jealousy :%))


and you want latino judges coz you want latinos to win. it's all relative.
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but I prefer that way and regardless of that, at least I will have a peace of mind knowing that there is this proportion of judges Latinos, Europeans, Americans and Asians and I can always find good reasons why they choose this woman as the winner of the contest.


How selfish. Well you can be perpetualy tormented but your suggestion would float adrift. No one complains about a majority of Americans judging Miss Universe or Japanese judging Miss International.

You can buy peace of mind somewhere else.
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Re: MISS EARTH JUDGES SUGGESTIONS

Postby divine_nymph » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:54 am

If you can tell favoritism about a Latina winning Miss Earth what about Vietnam winning Miss Earth with two Vietnamese sitting as a judge then you will make an excuse or reason out she won it all on her own credit or performance same goes with the Latina with this proportion of judges. If a Latina deserves it why would you deter or bar with all or any means for her to win it's not that all of the judges were Latinos but only a portion of all the judges what can you say about the rest of the judges? Don't they have a mind of their own judging who they believe as the rightful winner? If you are confident enough with your contestant then you will have no problem with this proportion of judges else you just want to play favoritism to some because of country, race, continental affiliation or sponsorship or whatever deals they have. With the current set of judges there is this impartiality towards a specific continent or favoring someone who has this shady dealings. I know you will always find excuses to this kind of noble intention because we could not rid of that something shady behind.
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Postby divine_nymph » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:56 am

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divine_nymph wrote:
hauteegirl wrote:Really???

When Denise quinones won.. all judges were americans except one judge. So who was the winner? an american.. of course PR is american.



Miss Earth 2015 in Austria - 99% were european... winner is Philippines... it doesnt matter who's the judge. they just dont want the philippines to win out of jealousy :%))


and you want latino judges coz you want latinos to win. it's all relative.
=;))


but I prefer that way and regardless of that, at least I will have a peace of mind knowing that there is this proportion of judges Latinos, Europeans, Americans and Asians and I can always find good reasons why they choose this woman as the winner of the contest.


How selfish. Well you can be perpetualy tormented but your suggestion would float adrift. No one complains about a majority of Americans judging Miss Universe or Japanese judging Miss International.

You can buy peace of mind somewhere else.


What are you talking about? I am talking about Miss Universe, its prestige and its quality of winners they look spectacular winners.. what do you say? All American judges in Miss Universe? There are Latinos, Japanese, Filipinos, Europeans who sit as judges remember Miss Trinidad and Tobago sitting as judge? Sushmita Sen as judge? chef Nobu, British actress in 2010.. and the winners? Africa in 2011 and 2017, Americas in 2012, 2013, 2014, Europe in 2016, Asia in 2015 and you see it as one sided? you are making me laugh hard... =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) .. when was the last time an African won Miss Earth on its own credit and performance and not just by default meaning first runner up assuming the title after the original winner was dethroned? well yes I can be at peace of mind with Miss Universe and that is the type of preference, flair and taste I have.
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Postby divine_nymph » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:31 am

I still prefer this proportion of judges in an Asian based pageant at least in Miss Earth as this is the most sensible, stratified way to yield an outcome for a pageant.
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Postby baghak_gargak » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:35 am

[font=Georgia][color=#000099][size=150][b]Anyone who is against this ideas has bias favoritism towards specific contestants by just making excuses. If Miss Earth cannot implement this system or process of judges percentage proportion then we know there is a bias favoritism towards something.[/b][/size][/color][/font]
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Postby Nand » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:06 am

divine_nymph wrote:Oh by the way someone said in the main Miss Earth 2018 Coverage thread that the org. really wanted to crown a Vietnamese as Miss Earth. Now I know why there are two Vietnamese who served as judges last Saturday.


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Let us address the allegations of having an unfair advantage of a Vietnamese judge in the panel. First of all, if there were 2 Vietnamese judges in a panel of 9, that means a 22% chance over a 100% chance to emerge victorious. So there is no way that one judge (in Miss Earth) could sway the voting to have Miss Vietnam win. Let’s compare that to a judge in another recent pageant (Indonesia in MGI) who was also the trainer/mentor, designer, and friend of a lady (Indonesia) who ended up as runner up of the pageant (MGI). Add to that is the fact that he has openly campaigned for his ward on social media (of course those posts are now ‘conveniently missing’). Plus the runner up of the pageant also had an advantage being associated with another judge being her ND/ franchise owner of the local pageant. That’s 2 judges to her favor over 5 judges and a whopping 40% chance of swaying the votes to their bias. Ring a bell? Let’s also remind ourselves of an Alpha(BIG FOUR) pageant that had a national director sitting on the judging panel for 2 consecutive years with her ward making 2nd princess in those years. Now that is what I would call an unfair advantage.Source:
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Postby Nand » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:09 am

divine_nymph wrote:Oh by the way someone said in the main Miss Earth 2018 Coverage thread that the org. really wanted to crown a Vietnamese as Miss Earth. Now I know why there are two Vietnamese who served as judges last Saturday.


There were 2 Chinese judges in Miss Earth 2018 and only one Vietnamese (Linh San).
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Postby divine_nymph » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:00 am

Nand wrote:
divine_nymph wrote:Oh by the way someone said in the main Miss Earth 2018 Coverage thread that the org. really wanted to crown a Vietnamese as Miss Earth. Now I know why there are two Vietnamese who served as judges last Saturday.


There were 2 Chinese judges in Miss Earth 2018 and only one Vietnamese (Linh San).


i think there are two - a male and female one is a designer and one is an executive of a company I think. Vietnam is formerly French Indochina and Vietnamese and Chinese are very close but I am not sure about the ties of the judges.
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