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From Big F i v e to Big F o u r?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:30 am
by iamkenmotion
Im just thinking, what if Missosology demotes Miss Earth to a minor pageant and will only declare B I G F O U R ( Miss Universe, MW, MI , MS ) What will be your reaction?

Re: From Big F i v e to Big F o u r?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:48 am
by TranniesRUs
Supranational over Earth? That would be the most stupid idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:51 am
by iamkenmotion
TranniesRUs wrote:Supranational over Earth? That would be the most stupid idea.


I have nothing against Supra, its an interesting pageant, great production and stunning winners.

Re: From Big F i v e to Big F o u r?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:55 am
by micoexpress5
Let’s be real, there is only >>>BiG ONE!

Re: From Big F i v e to Big F o u r?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:04 am
by iamkenmotion
micoexpress5 wrote:Let’s be real, there is only >>>BiG ONE!


Yes somehow i agree, Miss universe is the real deal but its also nice to recognize other pageants that's world class.

Re: From Big F i v e to Big F o u r?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:51 am
by manoypoe
DEMOTE AGAIN? MY GOSH. NOT GETTING TIRED. =;)) =;))

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:59 am
by Busyboy
manoypoe wrote:DEMOTE AGAIN? MY GOSH. NOT GETTING TIRED. =;)) =;))


Boring na naman ang misso... kaya gawa-gawa rin ng issue... :%)) :%)) :%))

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:16 am
by ajsy0203
Removing Miss Earth or Miss International in the list will be more insulting as ever. I'll stick with the Big 5 as of the moment until the international mainstream media (not fake news sites) gave up already to this concept.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:42 am
by ajsy0203
To TS: You can't control the game because just like us we're just netizens or forumers, we can do our opinions but not forced it out. The the real major international pageants will come from the mainstream media, yes mainstream media like AP, AFP, Reuters, Getty Images and others not those fake news blogs or satire sites. If you still insists on your standards then used your opinion to yourself and not reflected as a whole forum just what the disclaimer in the forum wrote about.

Re: From Big F i v e to Big F o u r?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:48 am
by greenleaf
iamkenmotion wrote:
Im just thinking, what if Missosology demotes Miss Earth to a minor pageant and will only declare B I G F O U R ( Miss Universe, MW, MI , MS ) What will be your reaction?


ACTUALLY NO ISSUE, BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY 2 BIG PAGEANTS NAMAN TALAGA, REAL BIG PAGEANTS. IF YOU WILLBE STRICT--THERE IS ONLY 1. ONE OF THE CRITERIA FOR ME OF A BIG PAGEANT IS IT IS SHOWN LIVE ON A LEGIT NETWORK LIVE, HINDI CABLE, HINDI REPLAY ON A SUNDAY MORNING ON A NON-PRIME-TIME SLOT.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:50 am
by RatedX
Big Three is a better option since they have an established history.

1. Miss Universe
2. Miss World
3. Miss International

All others are second-tier pageants.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:15 pm
by ajsy0203
RatedX wrote:Big Three is a better option since they have an established history.

1. Miss Universe
2. Miss World
3. Miss International

All others are second-tier pageants.


I'll agree with that but we need to expand into new horizons. Mainstream media started to recognize Miss Earth as a major pageant few years back.

Re: From Big F i v e to Big F o u r?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:21 pm
by ajsy0203
RatedX wrote:Big Three is a better option since they have an established history.

1. Miss Universe
2. Miss World
3. Miss International

All others are second-tier pageants.


Of course they will used the "first world" argument again to defend this concept. MI is left behind in terms of telecast (stopped airing on TV since 2015), production quality and pace of the competition despite the rich history and fair competition (not all the times).

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:24 pm
by ajsy0203
Image

That means iamkenmotion, other Miss Earth haters and pageant traditionalist fans don't necessarily reflected and represented the whole Missosology forum.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:02 pm
by stupid_jerk
I have said this before... pageant sites can remove Miss Earth from Big two, Three, Four, Five, or infinity, as they want.

Not because I'm a fan of this pageant but Miss Earth will thrive like the time when Carousel was still part owner of Miss Asia Pacific Quest.

Miss Earth already cemented enough ground to stand on its own and credibility to sell itself so I don't see any issue if they are taken out of this big whatever, it's just a tag like those here in Misso... Pageant experts who can't predict correct girls winning... specialists and historians who are not aware of a pageant's history.

To add, Miss Earth is the only pageant where roughly more than 50% of its delegates, per year, are still doing their responsibility to mother earth in their town, even after the pageant, instead of just taking selfies (Where did I get the number 50%? I follow their social media)

if forumers here (though not even a representative of the number of pageant fans in the whole globe) think Miss Earth is a joke, then follow that other site who feels entitled and perfect.

I criticize Miss Earth hard when I see something worth mentioning but I make sure I have done my assignment first by looking at things on all sides.

Again, I have no qualms with Miss Earth being removed from this superficial pageant ranking system by that other site and Misso experts.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:08 pm
by simonsy
Miss earth will still exist even it is not included to whatever big five or big four....

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:18 pm
by ajsy0203
stupid_jerk wrote:I have said this before... pageant sites can remove Miss Earth from Big two, Three, Four, Five, or infinity, as they want.

Not because I'm a fan of this pageant but Miss Earth will thrive like the time when Carousel was still part owner of Miss Asia Pacific Quest.

Miss Earth already cemented enough ground to stand on its own and credibility to sell itself so I don't see any issue if they are taken out of this big whatever, it's just a tag like those here in Misso... Pageant experts who can't predict correct girls winning... specialists and historians who are not aware of a pageant's history.

To add, Miss Earth is the only pageant where roughly more than 50% of its delegates, per year, are still doing their responsibility to mother earth in their town, even after the pageant, instead of just taking selfies (Where did I get the number 50%? I follow their social media)

if forumers here (though not even a representative of the number of pageant fans in the whole globe) think Miss Earth is a joke, then follow that other site who feels entitled and perfect.

I criticize Miss Earth hard when I see something worth mentioning but I make sure I have done my assignment first by looking at things on all sides.

Again, I have no qualms with Miss Earth being removed from this superficial pageant ranking system by that other site and Misso experts.


I posted in the past about if Carousel not jolted out of Mutya ng Pilipinas?
http://host.missosology.info/~missyorg/ ... &t=1460072

Re: From Big F i v e to Big F o u r?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:12 pm
by micoexpress5
iamkenmotion wrote:
micoexpress5 wrote:Let’s be real, there is only >>>BiG ONE!


Yes somehow i agree, Miss universe is the real deal but its also nice to recognize other pageants that's world class.


Ok how about we say >>> The BIG One n the rest. :)>-

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:15 pm
by mybadname
iamkenmotion wrote:
Im just thinking, what if Missosology demotes Miss Earth to a minor pageant and will only declare B I G F O U R ( Miss Universe, MW, MI , MS ) What will be your reaction?


Are you thinking or feeling bitter like the others? Miss Supranational over Miss Earth? You just made me fart lol! Miss Earth is even much better than Miss International and somehow much better than the cooking show Miss World!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:27 pm
by Handsama
stupid_jerk wrote:I have said this before... pageant sites can remove Miss Earth from Big two, Three, Four, Five, or infinity, as they want.

Not because I'm a fan of this pageant but Miss Earth will thrive like the time when Carousel was still part owner of Miss Asia Pacific Quest.

Miss Earth already cemented enough ground to stand on its own and credibility to sell itself so I don't see any issue if they are taken out of this big whatever, it's just a tag like those here in Misso... Pageant experts who can't predict correct girls winning... specialists and historians who are not aware of a pageant's history.

To add, Miss Earth is the only pageant where roughly more than 50% of its delegates, per year, are still doing their responsibility to mother earth in their town, even after the pageant, instead of just taking selfies (Where did I get the number 50%? I follow their social media)

if forumers here (though not even a representative of the number of pageant fans in the whole globe) think Miss Earth is a joke, then follow that other site who feels entitled and perfect.

I criticize Miss Earth hard when I see something worth mentioning but I make sure I have done my assignment first by looking at things on all sides.

Again, I have no qualms with Miss Earth being removed from this superficial pageant ranking system by that other site and Misso experts.


I couldn’t have said this any better. Brava! =D>

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:02 pm
by teletubby
ajsy0203 wrote:
RatedX wrote:Big Three is a better option since they have an established history.

1. Miss Universe
2. Miss World
3. Miss International

All others are second-tier pageants.


I'll agree with that but we need to expand into new horizons. Mainstream media started recognized Miss Earth as a major pageant few years back.



stop abusing past tense!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:09 pm
by quelab22
as they say Beauty is not Definite... dont make any basis just for the Beauty... Miss Earth may crown an unappealing winner but, look at the legacy they have contributed and continuously contributing.... accept the fact Miss Universe, MW, MI and ME... photoshoots, grand production, fame-whore of the owner will not survive the credibility of the organization.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:28 pm
by chinchansoo
Di pa rin ba kau naka move on hahaha kokoronahan na ulit bagong MPE hahaha

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:29 pm
by fortela
ms intercontinental and ms globe are much older than ms earth. the way ms earth choose winners is a big question mark. . there was a corruption scandal a few years back with Russia. remember , it takes two to tango. because of thease reasons ok to remove it from Big 5 a major pageant

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:57 pm
by lunica
micoexpress5 wrote:Let’s be real, there is only >>>BiG ONE!


whether we like it or not, Miss World is also a premiere pageant enjoying the support of many countries, let alone the oldest pageant there is.
granted, we may love Miss Universe better due to its entertainment value but MW is championing its causes too.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:16 pm
by mrgary
Whether we all like it or not, Miss Earth was, is and will always be a part of "The Big Four" sharing its limelight with Miss Universe, Miss World and Miss International pageants. Let us all face it: No matter how many people bash Miss Earth, they will always stay tuned with the pageant's activities, news feeds, and results. These same bashers will even look for any social media weblink to livestream the pageant. Why? It is because Miss Earth is an INNOVATIVE pageant regardless of its cause, relevance and winners, that's why. It always offers something fresh and different to pageant enthusiasts like us every year. After all, which pageant in the world revolutionised the need to underline the advocacy of the organisation during and after the actual pageant? It was Miss Earth. Although Miss World's BWAP was founded in 1972, it wasn't clearly disseminated, promoted and emphasised to pageant aficionados until after the demise of Eric Morley in 2000 but even at the time, BWAP still didn't really come to its full throttle until it became a fast-track event in 2005. On the other hand, Miss Earth was always passionate about its cause since its inception in 2001 that the organisers even incorporated video clips of various environmental problems during the Q&A portion in the early years of the pageant. How clever was that? Which pageant in the world showcased pre-pageant mini-events, competitions and activities at awe-inspiring places that definitely documented the girls having fun? It was Miss Earth! Although Miss Universe and Miss International had had their shares of pre-pageant activities, girls having fun amongst themselves were clearly shown only as "choreographed photoshoots" especially at Miss Universe in the '70s and '80s era. However, at Miss Earth, the girls were actually having real fun while promoting the advocacy of the organisation. Which pageant started a banging opening number complete with energetic choreography? Miss Earth! Who could ever forget the opening numbers of Miss Earth 2006, 2011, 2014 and 2017? Miss World could even hardly maintain their "Dances Of The World" segment annually, for Pete's sake! Which pageant popularized the "No Make-up" interview? Ah, Miss Earth! Last year, Miss Earth upped the ante by doing the "hashtag" interview during the actual pageant which clearly signified the cognizance of the organisation with the current trend and not just merely about the issues that mattered greatly to all of us. The pageant also initiated the "covered face" strategem during its preliminary swimsuit round and the "Earth Warriors" in its opening number. The programme's "Ready-Set-Go" format last year was also very ingenious when the actual names of semi-finalists were called and that they had to strut their stuff right away for the live competition. Miss Universe, Miss World and Miss International had not done that in their past respective editions even if they were decades older than Miss Earth. Above all, Miss Earth is the only pageant with an elemental court. Hence, newsflash to all Miss Earth bashers, whackers, oppressors and defamers: Miss Earth is here to stay. For as long as Mother Earth stays alive and kicking, well guess what? Miss Earth, too, stays alive and kicks ass in the pageant world!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:13 pm
by micoexpress5
lunica wrote:
micoexpress5 wrote:Let’s be real, there is only >>>BiG ONE!


whether we like it or not, Miss World is also a premiere pageant enjoying the support of many countries, let alone the oldest pageant there is.
granted, we may love Miss Universe better due to its entertainment value but MW is championing its causes too.


Why r u assuming as everyone that I was referring to Miss Universe...I just said the big one :%)) :)>- oh yeah Miss World cares about children >>>> millions r still dying of hunger, millions have no education, and millions have no decent roof on their heads. The people behind Miss World have the best food, education n houses. Oh yeah Miss Universe is championing HIV/AIDS, it’s all charade,! >>>>Stop the war is BS>>>>Save Mother Earth >>> they can’t even stop people from dumping tons of garbage on the streets, rivers etc.

It’s all about the money n entertainment. Do you think fans watch the big one n the rest of pageants to learn about their causes? Big no ! Let’s be real we love entertainment n the people behind the pageants love money they make. Let’s stop the BS of pageants n advocacies. Let’s enjoy watching beautiful, smart, and sexy women competing for the crown.

Re: From Big F i v e to Big F o u r?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:00 am
by Jonathan Nguyen
lunica wrote:
micoexpress5 wrote:Let’s be real, there is only >>>BiG ONE!


whether we like it or not, Miss World is also a premiere pageant enjoying the support of many countries, let alone the oldest pageant there is.
granted, we may love Miss Universe better due to its entertainment value but MW is championing its causes too.


Well said!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:24 am
by formlessdiva
HERE COMES THE CRY BABIES!

AND THEY ARE ALL SCREAMING ....


MISSO IS NOW ON A STATE OF BOREDNESS

=;)) =;)) =;)) =;))

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:45 am
by bluefish28
I actually like this Big 5 :hx