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MEO should focus more on facial and physical beauty?

Postby ajsy0203 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:14 pm

    

One forumer said in order to redeem itself from endless bashings, Miss Earth Org. should more focus on facial and physical beauty than intelligence and environmental awareness. Do you agree that Beauty of Face, Poise and Figure & Form should weighted even heavier than Intelligence & Environmental Awareness?


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Postby Elle » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:28 pm

Nope they need to focus on the overall qualities of the girl.

I remember Alyz, Tereza, or even Jamie didn't necessarily have the best answers, but overall they were the best. I've seen the trend starting 2015 where the judges based the winner solely on their final answers, and those 30 seconds isn't a good overall measure, some girls could literally just be spewing out memorized lines that just happened to tie in with the question. At this rate all the save the environment and protect mother earth, and children are the future answers will always be guaranteed a spot in that top 4 and also leads to just ok winners like Angelia and Katherine, and then winners like last year's who lowered ME's standards even more. However, Miss Earth can also position itself like Miss America where they choose average girls, it'll lose interest from pageant fans for sure, but spike interest for more women who wants to join pageants but don't feel like they're beautiful enough
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Postby krissynelli » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:26 pm

MEO SHOULD MAKE IT CLEAR FROM THE START. WHICH IS WHICH?.... "BEAUTY" PAGEANT OR ADVOCACY PAGEANT? >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:)
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Postby lutosfeet » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:24 pm

Ayan kana naman sa tanong thread mo.. Well kailangan oa ba e memorize yan? kaya nga Beauty Pageant di lang ganda at talino its an overall package gurl. In case of Karen, matalino lang sya, yun lang, ang beauty nya di pang top crown.. [-X [-X [-X
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Postby quelab22 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:46 pm

it should be atleast balance... Beauty-Brain-Advocacy-Attitude
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Postby sleuth08 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:53 pm

NO IT SHOULD BE ALL EQUAL
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Postby manoypoe » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:21 pm

sleuth08 wrote:NO IT SHOULD BE ALL EQUAL


AGREE. BALANCE IT. :=p :=p
BUT IN TOP4, THEY SHOULD GIVE MORE WEIGHT ON BEAUTY, EVEN SLIGHTLY. :%)) :%))
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Postby ajsy0203 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:41 pm

lutosfeet wrote:Ayan kana naman sa tanong thread mo.. Well kailangan oa ba e memorize yan? kaya nga Beauty Pageant di lang ganda at talino its an overall package gurl. In case of Karen, matalino lang sya, yun lang, ang beauty nya di pang top crown.. [-X [-X [-X


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Postby Handsama » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:16 pm

Elle wrote:Nope they need to focus on the overall qualities of the girl.

I remember Alyz, Tereza, or even Jamie didn't necessarily have the best answers, but overall they were the best. I've seen the trend starting 2015 where the judges based the winner solely on their final answers, and those 30 seconds isn't a good overall measure, some girls could literally just be spewing out memorized lines that just happened to tie in with the question. At this rate all the save the environment and protect mother earth, and children are the future answers will always be guaranteed a spot in that top 4 and also leads to just ok winners like Angelia and Katherine, and then winners like last year's who lowered ME's standards even more. However, Miss Earth can also position itself like Miss America where they choose average girls, it'll lose interest from pageant fans for sure, but spike interest for more women who wants to join pageants but don't feel like they're beautiful enough


And yet Miss America beats Miss USA in TV ratings.

The reality is that the gay audience of international pageants is just a tiny fraction of the total audience. I read that straight women make up the majority of their TV viewers and this demographics isn’t as obsessed by beauty as gay men are. The women audience of today want their Queens to be able to represent them well out there. That’s why IMG is trying to evolve Miss USA and Miss Universe into crowning women that ordinary women can be proud of and identify with.
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Postby MrManila » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:42 am

lutosfeet wrote:Ayan kana naman sa tanong thread mo.. Well kailangan oa ba e memorize yan? kaya nga Beauty Pageant di lang ganda at talino its an overall package gurl. In case of Karen, matalino lang sya, yun lang, ang beauty nya di pang top crown.. [-X [-X [-X


kaya lang kasi, beauty is subjective. may kanya kanya tayong taste kasi in terms of beauty. Karen may not be that beautiful to some, but some may find her really beautiful. depende kasi sa standards or sa titingin e...
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Postby manoypoe » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:56 am

MrManila wrote:
lutosfeet wrote:Ayan kana naman sa tanong thread mo.. Well kailangan oa ba e memorize yan? kaya nga Beauty Pageant di lang ganda at talino its an overall package gurl. In case of Karen, matalino lang sya, yun lang, ang beauty nya di pang top crown.. [-X [-X [-X


kaya lang kasi, beauty is subjective. may kanya kanya tayong taste kasi in terms of beauty. Karen may not be that beautiful to some, but some may find her really beautiful. depende kasi sa standards or sa titingin e...


agree and respect dahil walang dayaan sa miss earth
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Postby jhunz23 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:31 am

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Elle wrote:Nope they need to focus on the overall qualities of the girl.

I remember Alyz, Tereza, or even Jamie didn't necessarily have the best answers, but overall they were the best. I've seen the trend starting 2015 where the judges based the winner solely on their final answers, and those 30 seconds isn't a good overall measure, some girls could literally just be spewing out memorized lines that just happened to tie in with the question. At this rate all the save the environment and protect mother earth, and children are the future answers will always be guaranteed a spot in that top 4 and also leads to just ok winners like Angelia and Katherine, and then winners like last year's who lowered ME's standards even more. However, Miss Earth can also position itself like Miss America where they choose average girls, it'll lose interest from pageant fans for sure, but spike interest for more women who wants to join pageants but don't feel like they're beautiful enough


And yet Miss America beats Miss USA in TV ratings.

The reality is that the gay audience of international pageants is just a tiny fraction of the total audience. I read that straight women make up the majority of their TV viewers and this demographics isn’t as obsessed by beauty as gay men are. The women audience of today want their Queens to be able to represent them well out there. That’s why IMG is trying to evolve Miss USA and Miss Universe into crowning women that ordinary women can be proud of and identify with.


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Postby fortela » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:05 am

well when miss America became bankrupt years ago the pageant focused so much in intelligence and talent and that is why its ratings plummeted. there were winners with wtf faces... the recent renaissance of ms americaz was due to the fact that swimsuit and beauty of face was again reinstated . quite recently miss usa chose their queens because of platform relevance like an army girl and a scientist girl . both were beautiful but there were other candidates that had more physical beauty that didn't even make top 15. this imbalance caused miss usa low ratings
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Postby TranniesRUs » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:32 am

I don’t find Karen Ibasco ugly, and she won fair and square.

The criteria was made available beforehand. It wasn’t as if it was unclear that the winner from the final four was going to be the one with the best Q&A performance, as should be!

If people have issues with the criteria, or prefer beautiful bimbos (hi, millennial Thailand :-D ) over intelligent earth warriors, then they should demand the change from Carousel Productions, instead of bashing the winner who simply met the criteria for judging. Miss Earth isn’t like The Julia Cooking Show that doesn’t follow its own criteria. [-X In fact there isn’t even any actual judging on the cookfest’s finals night — it’s just a coronation!
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Postby Paola De Bracho 2.0 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:39 am

the fact that these delegates made it in their national pageants means they all have the "knowledge" about this environmental blah blah blah. so why not choose a girl with "universal appeal" to win on this international pageant than choosing a blah blah girl that will destroy the image of this organization.
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Postby iamkenmotion » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:13 am

Paola De Bracho 2.0 wrote:the fact that these delegates made it in their national pageants means they all have the "knowledge" about this environmental blah blah blah. so why not choose a girl with "universal appeal" to win on this international pageant than choosing a blah blah girl that will destroy the image of this organization.


i totally agree. Karen is so mediocre in terms of beauty. She has no recent international trips. She isnt bankable. They are looking for a spokesperson right with a universal appeal? Karen is a spokeswoman but doesnt have a universal appeal.
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Postby lucy » Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:30 am

PEOPLE HAVE PREFERENCES WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF BEAUTY BUT WITH KAREN IBASCO THERE'S NO SMALL STRAIN OF BEAUTY AT ALL, SO A BEAUTY PREFERENCE IS NOT APPLICABLE TO HER! 8-} :)>-
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Postby La Tierra » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:20 am

Different judges, different preferences.

That's why in one edition a Tereza wins, in another it's a Karen.

I think the most balanced, who did outstandingly on all fronts are Nicole Faria, Alexandra Braun and Alyz Henrich.
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Postby manoypoe » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:42 pm

iamkenmotion wrote:
Paola De Bracho 2.0 wrote:the fact that these delegates made it in their national pageants means they all have the "knowledge" about this environmental blah blah blah. so why not choose a girl with "universal appeal" to win on this international pageant than choosing a blah blah girl that will destroy the image of this organization.


i totally agree. Karen is so mediocre in terms of beauty. She has no recent international trips. She isnt bankable. They are looking for a spokesperson right with a universal appeal? Karen is a spokeswoman but doesnt have a universal appeal.


KAREN WAS INVITED IN VIETNAM AND HAD A TRIP TO CAMBODIA RIGHT AFTER HER VICTORY.
USUALLY, MISS EARTH QUEENS TRAVEL STARTING MAY ONWARD. LET US WAIT AND SEE
IF SHE HAS NO MORE FOREIGN TRIPS UNTIL HER REIGN, LET US CRUCIFY HER. =D> =D>
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Postby Handsama » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:41 pm

Paola De Bracho 2.0 wrote:the fact that these delegates made it in their national pageants means they all have the "knowledge" about this environmental blah blah blah. so why not choose a girl with "universal appeal" to win on this international pageant than choosing a blah blah girl that will destroy the image of this organization.


Following the same logic Ms Paola, majority of the women who show up at Miss Earth won their national pageants and were chosen by a panel of judges who I’m sure felt that their winners had the “universal appeal”. Remember that their definition of “universal appeal” may be different from yours. Who are we to impose our own biases towards these judges? We’re merely fans tagging along.

And Karen is far from a blah winner. Some gay fans might think that because of their narrow definition of what a beauty queen should be. Now, she is no Catriona when it comes to facial looks...I give you that. But she has an advanced degree in applied physics, graduated with honors, taught Physics in a university, can talk about issues with depth, a banging body, and is a genuinely likeable and kind individual. Not many Queens have that pedigree. Personally, I find her to be a huge asset to Miss Earth.
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Postby Handsama » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:46 pm

lucy wrote:PEOPLE HAVE PREFERENCES WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF BEAUTY BUT WITH KAREN IBASCO THERE'S NO SMALL STRAIN OF BEAUTY AT ALL, SO A BEAUTY PREFERENCE IS NOT APPLICABLE TO HER! 8-} :)>-


I know what you’re trying to do, lucy ;,). You decided to join the Miss Earth hatefest hoping that people would forget about your favorite pageant’s own issues. Not gonna happen! :%))
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Postby Handsama » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:57 pm

iamkenmotion wrote:
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i totally agree. Karen is so mediocre in terms of beauty. She has no recent international trips. She isnt bankable. They are looking for a spokesperson right with a universal appeal? Karen is a spokeswoman but doesnt have a universal appeal.


Says who? A fan who hides behind his anonymity just like the rest of us. :%)) You might think you’re someone important here but out there in the real world, I doubt if you’ve even accomplished half of what Karen managed to do in her young life. So spare me... :-j
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Postby I Am A Woman REALLY! » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:22 am

lucy wrote:PEOPLE HAVE PREFERENCES WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF BEAUTY BUT WITH KAREN IBASCO THERE'S NO SMALL STRAIN OF BEAUTY AT ALL, SO A BEAUTY PREFERENCE IS NOT APPLICABLE TO HER! 8-} :)>-


People may disagree with Miss Earth's criteria, prioritizing Q&A and body before facial beauty, but at least Miss Earth follows its criteria. Unlike some cooking festival that doesn't conduct any real judging on finals night and just submits a pre-determined sheet that lists national directors' personal choices, totally ignoring the girls' performances and its own leaderboard rankings during finals night. [-X
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Postby Ivy Aguas » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:00 am

Ang tanong dyan eh kelan ba naging satisfied ang tao sa mga naging resulta sa mga edisyon ng Miss Earth?

Halos taon taon naman may nasasabi ang mga mapanglait na basurera sa basurang website na to!

Napaka simple lang naman ng solusyon

Kung di kayu sang ayon sa naging resulta at nawalan na kayu ng gana sa Miss Earth eh di maghukay na kayu nag sarili nyong libingan!

Magsilayas kayu sa sinuled ng Miss Earth!

Inaayawan nyo pero para kayung mga sirang plaka pabalik balik sa sinuled!

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Postby iamkenmotion » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:06 am

Handsama wrote:
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i totally agree. Karen is so mediocre in terms of beauty. She has no recent international trips. She isnt bankable. They are looking for a spokesperson right with a universal appeal? Karen is a spokeswoman but doesnt have a universal appeal.


Says who? A fan who hides behind his anonymity just like the rest of us. :%)) You might think you’re someone important here but out there in the real world, I doubt if you’ve even accomplished half of what Karen managed to do in her young life. So spare me... :-j


Spare your arrogance. She is a public figure now right? Open to public opinions and comments. I am never important but that will not hinder me to openly share my comments and also, you dont throw life and achievements stones to people whom you dont agree with or dislike the comments, its illogical. plus, you dont know who i am, so please spare me
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Re: MEO should focus more on facial and physical beauty?

Postby juicy_fruit146 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:39 am

ACCORDING TO MERRIAM-WEBSTER DICTIONARY A BEAUTY CONTEST IS

a : an assemblage of girls or women at which judges select the most beautiful — called also beauty pageant
b : a contest or competitive situation that is likened to a traditional beauty contest especially in involving judgments made on the basis of physical attractiveness or popular appeal

SO IF YOU WANT AN INTELLIGENCE CONTEST, THEY SHOULD CREATE A QUIZ BEE CONTEST OR A NOBLE PRIZE FOR CLEANING MOTHER EARTH
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Postby bloomfield » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:02 am

NO. I disagree, Mess Earth should maintain their advocacies to protect Mother Earth, its animals, and their habitats !!!! Please continue crowning cow-looking beauties, porkies, and troll-looking chicks !!!! It's already well-known around the globe that ME is a circus, quiz bee contest and NOT a beauty pageant. PEACE :)>- =;))
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bloomfield wrote:NO. I disagree, Mess Earth should maintain their advocacies to protect Mother Earth, its animals, and their habitats !!!! Please continue crowning cow-looking beauties, porkies, and troll-looking humpty-dumpy chicks !!!! It's already well-known around the globe that ME is a circus, quiz bee contest and NOT a beauty pageant. PEACE :)>- =;))
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bloomfield wrote:NO. I disagree, Mess Earth should maintain their advocacies to protect Mother Earth, its animals, and their habitats !!!! Please continue crowning cow-looking beauties, porkies, and troll-looking humpty-dumpty chicks !!!! It's already well-known around the globe that ME is a circus, quiz bee contest and NOT a beauty pageant. PEACE :)>- =;))
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Postby lucy » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:43 am

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lucy wrote:PEOPLE HAVE PREFERENCES WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF BEAUTY BUT WITH KAREN IBASCO THERE'S NO SMALL STRAIN OF BEAUTY AT ALL, SO A BEAUTY PREFERENCE IS NOT APPLICABLE TO HER! 8-} :)>-


I know what you’re trying to do, lucy ;,). You decided to join the Miss Earth hatefest hoping that people would forget about your favorite pageant’s own issues. Not gonna happen! :%))


YOU'RE WRONG HANDSAMA, MISS WORLD CAN SURVIVE EVEN WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF MY FELLOW COUNTRYMEN, ALL OTHER PAGEANTS HAVE MORE ISSUES THAN MISS WORLD EVER HAD, MY OPINION ABOUT MESS EARTH IS MINE, I'M SURE MAJORITY OF IT AGREES WITH ME ABOUT IBASCO AND I'M NOT ONLY REFERRING TO FELLOW PINOY PAGEANT FANS :)>- :=p

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