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Postby robrobe » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:25 am

    

I am wondering why these past two years, the Miss Philippines Earth are not as strong as they should be. After Sandra Serfeit, the next one was unplaced and this year, there's a bigger chance she would be unplaced too. Out of nationalistic pride, I wish Athena the best, but I know that if she will place, it would be highly questionable.

I'd say the Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth as we are the home and country where Miss Earth originates and is organized. We should liken this to Miss USA who shares the same owners with the Miss Universe and Miss UK (England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales) with Miss World, and Miss Japan/China with Miss International. These national pageants do well in their same company-owned international pageants not because they share the same owners but technically because these national pageants share the same criteria with their international counterparts.

My point is, MPE should be sending strong candidates in ME for the fact that MPE knows what ME is supposedly looking for. Politics is not an issue if the MPE representative is really deserving to win right? Should MPE sacrifice winning an ME title and merely play host and organizers to please other national directors? ME is not created by Carousel so that Philippines will have its own titleholder, MPE should wake up and send really deserving, stunning, title-worthy representatives. I have nothing againsts Athena, but she doesn't stand out amidst the Amazons in this year's ME.


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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby Jaishee » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:28 am

Hmmmm, I think Athena is not that bad..
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Postby Axle_f » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:30 am

It's hard to be supportive when our reps are not caliber material...It's not wrong to be honest IMO.... :-D :-D :-D
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby robrobe » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:31 am

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Hmmmm, I think Athena is not that bad..


i agree, she's not that bad, but is she that good to win? that is the question...
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby robrobe » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:33 am

Axle_f wrote:It's hard to be supportive when our reps are not caliber material...It's not wrong to be honest IMO.... :-D :-D :-D


i know right?
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby Axle_f » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:39 am

robrobe wrote:
Axle_f wrote:It's hard to be supportive when our reps are not caliber material...It's not wrong to be honest IMO.... :-D :-D :-D


i know right?


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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby Jaishee » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:40 am

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Hmmmm, I think Athena is not that bad..


i agree, she's not that bad, but is she that good to win? that is the question...


I understand that Carousel should send a caliber for the crown every year but we must also consider that we can't win every year. A Top 16 or Elemental Runner Up crown is good as well :)>-
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby robrobe » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:42 am

Jayson Lazarte wrote:[font=Tahoma]
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Hmmmm, I think Athena is not that bad..


i agree, she's not that bad, but is she that good to win? that is the question...


I understand that Carousel should send a caliber for the crown every year but we must also consider that we can't win every year. A Top 16 or Elemental Runner Up crown is good as well :)>-
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I am not disputing your opinion, but can you honestly say that in the past two years that has been the case?
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby robrobe » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:44 am

Axle_f wrote:
robrobe wrote:
Axle_f wrote:It's hard to be supportive when our reps are not caliber material...It's not wrong to be honest IMO.... :-D :-D :-D


i know right?


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silence means... yes ha ha ha
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby Jaishee » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:46 am

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Jayson Lazarte wrote:[size=100][font=Tahoma]
robrobe wrote:
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Hmmmm, I think Athena is not that bad..


i agree, she's not that bad, but is she that good to win? that is the question...


I understand that Carousel should send a caliber for the crown every year but we must also consider that we can't win every year. A Top 16 or Elemental Runner Up crown is good as well :)>-
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I am not disputing your opinion, but can you honestly say that in the past two years that has been the case?


Psyche wasn't that bad either! It just happened that there were many stunners in 2010 and timely she was sick and can't perform well.

The only problem in MPE 2011 was that the elimination was just a big mess, preventing the true stunners to covet the crown (example is Miss Loay - Renee Hassani)
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby robrobe » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:54 am

Jayson Lazarte wrote:[font=Tahoma]
robrobe wrote:
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robrobe wrote:
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Hmmmm, I think Athena is not that bad..


Psyche wasn't that bad either! It just happened that there were many stunners in 2010 and timely she was sick and can't perform well.

The only problem in MPE 2011 was that the elimination was just a big mess, preventing the true stunners to covet the crown (example is Miss Loay - Renee Hassani)
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there will always be stunners, so your defense for psyche is weak. of course other countries will send their best. as for your justification for MPE2011 about the messed up elimination, that is precisely my point. why have that format when they know well that the ME format is not like that?
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby Jaishee » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:01 am

robrobe wrote:
Jayson Lazarte wrote:[font=Tahoma]
robrobe wrote:
Jayson Lazarte wrote:[size=100][font=Tahoma]
robrobe wrote:
Jayson Lazarte wrote:[size=100]
Hmmmm, I think Athena is not that bad..


Psyche wasn't that bad either! It just happened that there were many stunners in 2010 and timely she was sick and can't perform well.

The only problem in MPE 2011 was that the elimination was just a big mess, preventing the true stunners to covet the crown (example is Miss Loay - Renee Hassani)
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there will always be stunners, so your defense for psyche is weak. of course other countries will send their best. as for your justification for MPE2011 about the messed up elimination, that is precisely my point. why have that format when they know well that the ME format is not like that?


Duh, Of course there will be always stunners but not as many as 2010. There were still many front runners who were left out in the Top 16 that time. And Psyche's inclusion at the Top 5 of Miss Ao Dai was a big achievement!
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby robrobe » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:12 am

Jayson Lazarte wrote:
robrobe wrote:
Jayson Lazarte wrote:[font=Tahoma]
robrobe wrote:
Jayson Lazarte wrote:[size=100][font=Tahoma]
robrobe wrote:
Jayson Lazarte wrote:[size=100]
Hmmmm, I think Athena is not that bad..


Psyche wasn't that bad either! It just happened that there were many stunners in 2010 and timely she was sick and can't perform well.

The only problem in MPE 2011 was that the elimination was just a big mess, preventing the true stunners to covet the crown (example is Miss Loay - Renee Hassani)
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there will always be stunners, so your defense for psyche is weak. of course other countries will send their best. as for your justification for MPE2011 about the messed up elimination, that is precisely my point. why have that format when they know well that the ME format is not like that?


Duh, Of course there will be always stunners but not as many as 2010. There were still many front runners who were left out in the Top 16 that time. And Psyche's inclusion at the Top 5 of Miss Ao Dai was a big achievement!


you are now being illogical. now you agree that there will always be stunners so why use that as a defense? DUH.

I have nothing against Psyche. Congrats on her achievements and all, but in reality she was unplaced. As you said, Athena is not that bad and yet you dispute her winning by saying a more deserving girl should have won if not for the messed up elimination round - so what is your point?

My point has been very clear from the thread I posted, I just don't get yours. You contradict yourself.
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby Jaishee » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:19 am

robrobe wrote:
Jayson Lazarte wrote:
robrobe wrote:
Jayson Lazarte wrote:[font=Tahoma]
robrobe wrote:
Jayson Lazarte wrote:[size=100][font=Tahoma]
robrobe wrote:
Jayson Lazarte wrote:[size=100]
Hmmmm, I think Athena is not that bad..


Psyche wasn't that bad either! It just happened that there were many stunners in 2010 and timely she was sick and can't perform well.

The only problem in MPE 2011 was that the elimination was just a big mess, preventing the true stunners to covet the crown (example is Miss Loay - Renee Hassani)
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there will always be stunners, so your defense for psyche is weak. of course other countries will send their best. as for your justification for MPE2011 about the messed up elimination, that is precisely my point. why have that format when they know well that the ME format is not like that?




Duh, Of course there will be always stunners but not as many as 2010. There were still many front runners who were left out in the Top 16 that time. And Psyche's inclusion at the Top 5 of Miss Ao Dai was a big achievement!


you are now being illogical. now you agree that there will always be stunners so why use that as a defense? DUH.

I have nothing against Psyche. Congrats on her achievements and all, but in reality she was unplaced. As you said, Athena is not that bad and yet you dispute her winning by saying a more deserving girl should have won if not for the messed up elimination round - so what is your point?

My point has been very clear from the thread I posted, I just don't get yours. You contradict yourself.


Wasn't my reply clear also?
I am not disputing my opinion darling. I just said Athena wasn't that bad but I didn't said that she's better than the deserving girl I`ve mentioned..DUH,

I think it's you who doesn't get my reply..
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby greenleaf » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:38 am

robrobe wrote:I am wondering why these past two years, the Miss Philippines Earth are not as strong as they should be. After Sandra Serfeit, the next one was unplaced and this year, there's a bigger chance she would be unplaced too. Out of nationalistic pride, I wish Athena the best, but I know that if she will place, it would be highly questionable.

I'd say the Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth as we are the home and country where Miss Earth originates and is organized. We should liken this to Miss USA who shares the same owners with the Miss Universe and Miss UK (England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales) with Miss World, and Miss Japan/China with Miss International. These national pageants do well in their same company-owned international pageants not because they share the same owners but technically because these national pageants share the same criteria with their international counterparts.

My point is, MPE should be sending strong candidates in ME for the fact that MPE knows what ME is supposedly looking for. Politics is not an issue if the MPE representative is really deserving to win right? Should MPE sacrifice winning an ME title and merely play host and organizers to please other national directors? ME is not created by Carousel so that Philippines will have its own titleholder, MPE should wake up and send really deserving, stunning, title-worthy representatives. I have nothing againsts Athena, but she doesn't stand out amidst the Amazons in this year's ME.


We can NEVER be a powerhouse in Miss Earth...

as long as PAGEANT contestants here don't care about this pageant. Their ultimate goal here is Binibini (For Miss Universe and MI) , now there's MW. Sometimes ME is just a stepping stone. MEP is just a catch basin. sANDRA and Karla as we know are BP "rejects". Ladies who feel that they won't do good or feels need more honing join MEP before BP.

... as long as people here don't care about the pageant... When Karla Henry won-- where's the major endorsement? Lukewarm reaction of people here. ABS-CBN -- does not even broadcast it LIVE on Free TV -- which is a gauge of how important an event. =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby caduc » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:41 am

athena and psyche are pretty filipinas but just that.Body and height wise they are not competitive. i think the girl from cebu or jonalyn viray are more competitive, especially thegirl from cebu , she has the facial beauty that can compete in the miss universe.
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby Neekolas » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:43 am

CHECK MISS EARTH IN WIKIPEDIA, YOU WILl SEE THE RANKINGS ,
1.BRAZIL
2. INDIA
3. PHILIPPINES
4. VENEZUELA
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ISNT THE STATISTICAL DATA ENOUGH TO CONSIDER THE PHILIPPINES A POWERHOUSE IN MISS EARTH,
EVEN BEATING VENEZUELA? I SEE, YOU WANT PHILIPPINES TO BE NUMBER ONE IN THE PAGEANT THAT
ORIGINATED IN THE PHILIPPINES. NOTHING WRONG, IT'S PERFECTLY LOGICAL TO ME.
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby mikel_mm » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:47 am

Sometimes there are delegates that really don't place...accept it only a handful enter the finals, few enter the semis and only one wins the crown...vene some stunners fail
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby robrobe » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:00 am

Neekolas wrote:CHECK MISS EARTH IN WIKIPEDIA, YOU WILl SEE THE RANKINGS ,
1.BRAZIL
2. INDIA
3. PHILIPPINES
4. VENEZUELA
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ISNT THE STATISTICAL DATA ENOUGH TO CONSIDER THE PHILIPPINES A POWERHOUSE IN MISS EARTH,
EVEN BEATING VENEZUELA? I SEE, YOU WANT PHILIPPINES TO BE NUMBER ONE IN THE PAGEANT THAT
ORIGINATED IN THE PHILIPPINES. NOTHING WRONG, IT'S PERFECTLY LOGICAL TO ME.


thanks for getting my point :">
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby robrobe » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:01 am

greenleaf wrote:
robrobe wrote:I am wondering why these past two years, the Miss Philippines Earth are not as strong as they should be. After Sandra Serfeit, the next one was unplaced and this year, there's a bigger chance she would be unplaced too. Out of nationalistic pride, I wish Athena the best, but I know that if she will place, it would be highly questionable.

I'd say the Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth as we are the home and country where Miss Earth originates and is organized. We should liken this to Miss USA who shares the same owners with the Miss Universe and Miss UK (England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales) with Miss World, and Miss Japan/China with Miss International. These national pageants do well in their same company-owned international pageants not because they share the same owners but technically because these national pageants share the same criteria with their international counterparts.

My point is, MPE should be sending strong candidates in ME for the fact that MPE knows what ME is supposedly looking for. Politics is not an issue if the MPE representative is really deserving to win right? Should MPE sacrifice winning an ME title and merely play host and organizers to please other national directors? ME is not created by Carousel so that Philippines will have its own titleholder, MPE should wake up and send really deserving, stunning, title-worthy representatives. I have nothing againsts Athena, but she doesn't stand out amidst the Amazons in this year's ME.


We can NEVER be a powerhouse in Miss Earth...

as long as PAGEANT contestants here don't care about this pageant. Their ultimate goal here is Binibini (For Miss Universe and MI) , now there's MW. Sometimes ME is just a stepping stone. MEP is just a catch basin. sANDRA and Karla as we know are BP "rejects". Ladies who feel that they won't do good or feels need more honing join MEP before BP.

... as long as people here don't care about the pageant... When Karla Henry won-- where's the major endorsement? Lukewarm reaction of people here. ABS-CBN -- does not even broadcast it LIVE on Free TV -- which is a gauge of how important an event. =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/


you make a very good point
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby kennikai » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:14 am

nope. give chance to others :!! dapat pala miss philippines earth nalang ang tawag kung laging pasok mga pilipino.
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby maldita_salvaje » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:48 am

Jayson Lazarte wrote:
Hmmmm, I think Athena is not that bad..


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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby RUPERT » Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:29 am

Neekolas wrote:CHECK MISS EARTH IN WIKIPEDIA, YOU WILl SEE THE RANKINGS ,
1.BRAZIL
2. INDIA
3. PHILIPPINES
4. VENEZUELA
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ISNT THE STATISTICAL DATA ENOUGH TO CONSIDER THE PHILIPPINES A POWERHOUSE IN MISS EARTH,
EVEN BEATING VENEZUELA? I SEE, YOU WANT PHILIPPINES TO BE NUMBER ONE IN THE PAGEANT THAT
ORIGINATED IN THE PHILIPPINES. NOTHING WRONG, IT'S PERFECTLY LOGICAL TO ME.


Im with you on the voting apart from Venezuela pretty but not Miss Earth there isnt enough substance to her. I would add Scotland to that list for my four she is gorgeous just y ou watch she will jump ahead soon.
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby Jedi » Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:45 am

robrobe wrote:I am wondering why these past two years, the Miss Philippines Earth are not as strong as they should be. After Sandra Serfeit, the next one was unplaced and this year, there's a bigger chance she would be unplaced too. Out of nationalistic pride, I wish Athena the best, but I know that if she will place, it would be highly questionable.

I'd say the Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth as we are the home and country where Miss Earth originates and is organized. We should liken this to Miss USA who shares the same owners with the Miss Universe and Miss UK (England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales) with Miss World, and Miss Japan/China with Miss International. These national pageants do well in their same company-owned international pageants not because they share the same owners but technically because these national pageants share the same criteria with their international counterparts.

My point is, MPE should be sending strong candidates in ME for the fact that MPE knows what ME is supposedly looking for. Politics is not an issue if the MPE representative is really deserving to win right? Should MPE sacrifice winning an ME title and merely play host and organizers to please other national directors? ME is not created by Carousel so that Philippines will have its own titleholder, MPE should wake up and send really deserving, stunning, title-worthy representatives. I have nothing againsts Athena, but she doesn't stand out amidst the Amazons in this year's ME.


For me, its alright... cause we can't have gorgeous girl every year. Just like USA in Miss Universe, they don't usually sent some gorgeous girls every year.
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby THEOGEO » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:01 pm

Neekolas wrote:CHECK MISS EARTH IN WIKIPEDIA, YOU WILl SEE THE RANKINGS ,
1.BRAZIL
2. INDIA
3. PHILIPPINES
4. VENEZUELA
..........


ISNT THE STATISTICAL DATA ENOUGH TO CONSIDER THE PHILIPPINES A POWERHOUSE IN MISS EARTH,
EVEN BEATING VENEZUELA? I SEE, YOU WANT PHILIPPINES TO BE NUMBER ONE IN THE PAGEANT THAT
ORIGINATED IN THE PHILIPPINES. NOTHING WRONG, IT'S PERFECTLY LOGICAL TO ME.


Change Venezuala for Scotland and Im with you on the voting

Have a look at these ones of Scotland she looks amazing!!!

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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby Stoichio » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:27 pm

My take on this issue is that:
Carousel deliberately crowned a so-so girls since 2010 so that they have a reason not to include Philippines in the semi-finals of Miss Earth. This is so because they were afraid that many countries will boycott their pageant if Philippines places again. Carousel gave in to the demands of the other countries and sacrificing the glory and pride of the Filipinos. If they continue doing this, the beautiful girls of the Philippines will never be interested joining the local pageant again.
It would be a gain for the Miss Earth but a big loss for the Miss Philippines-Earth.
Well, that's what Carousel wants...MPE & ME are not that popular yet to the common people.
Even ABS-CBN does not promote it the same way as Miss Universe ahahaha.
ABS-CBN is the media partner of ME but it will not even telecast it live. But if it's Miss Universe, they will kill every rival station to telecast Miss Universe live.
Sometimes it also made me think that ABS is just riding on the popularity of Miss Universe because it is very popular to the Filipinos in all ages and all walks of life.
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby Axle_f » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:55 am

Tsyrt_Dwyte wrote:My take on this issue is that:
Carousel deliberately crowned a so-so girls since 2010 so that they have a reason not to include Philippines in the semi-finals of Miss Earth. This is so because they were afraid that many countries will boycott their pageant if Philippines places again. Carousel gave in to the demands of the other countries and sacrificing the glory and pride of the Filipinos. If they continue doing this, the beautiful girls of the Philippines will never be interested joining the local pageant again.
It would be a gain for the Miss Earth but a big loss for the Miss Philippines-Earth.
Well, that's what Carousel wants...MPE & ME are not that popular yet to the common people.
Even ABS-CBN does not promote it the same way as Miss Universe ahahaha.
ABS-CBN is the media partner of ME but it will not even telecast it live. But if it's Miss Universe, they will kill every rival station to telecast Miss Universe live.
Sometimes it also made me think that ABS is just riding on the popularity of Miss Universe because it is very popular to the Filipinos in all ages and all walks of life.


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I don't see why MPE has to do that. If they choose a worthy candidate, Filipinos would rally behind them no matter what. There's probably just not much interest among the local ladies and still sees Bb. Pilipinas as the ultimate pageant platform, not realizing ME is a very good pageant in itself. MPE: Crown a great Filipina and she will be a star! :-D :-D :-D
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Re: Philippines should be a powerhouse in Miss Earth

Postby meenakshit chaudhary » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:31 pm

Don’t worry. Philippines is a super powerhouse in ME nowadays. Venezuela is a poor second.
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