mybadname wrote:Jenny is a saving grace from a lame and disastrous production.
mybadname wrote:Jenny is a saving grace from a lame and disastrous production.
Stoichio wrote:mybadname wrote:Jenny is a saving grace from a lame and disastrous production.
Oh the pageant has concluded already?
It is so unfortunate to see how this pageant has devolved.
Probably, only 0.01% of PH population knows its activities or that it is on-going.
Without the ‘height controversy’, no one would talk about it.
If MWPh 2022 was bad, this is waaaay worse.
The winner is beautiful. You are right “she is the saving grace”.
Hopefully, this is not a preview of what’s to come in ME 2022.
Else, they should just sell it to the Vietnamese business mogul to save it from extinction or becoming irrelevant.
kantutay wrote:Is ME going to be virtual again? Countries pay expensive franchise fees for this. If Supra, Intercon, Gwand, Globe and other small pageants can do a live show, why can’t ME?
Natalie Mendoza wrote:Stoichio wrote:mybadname wrote:Jenny is a saving grace from a lame and disastrous production.
Oh the pageant has concluded already?
It is so unfortunate to see how this pageant has devolved.
Probably, only 0.01% of PH population knows its activities or that it is on-going.
Without the ‘height controversy’, no one would talk about it.
If MWPh 2022 was bad, this is waaaay worse.
The winner is beautiful. You are right “she is the saving grace”.
Hopefully, this is not a preview of what’s to come in ME 2022.
Else, they should just sell it to the Vietnamese business mogul to save it from extinction or becoming irrelevant.
You are spot on
I'm glad Jenny won But....
Honestly I'm not surprised, Philippines generally has well below average production skills and the most low quality media around, neither are they innovative in the right way pity because we have plenty of material to work from like our culture. Miss Earth is a step in the wrong direction they need to remember "entertainment" is still primary for any pageant especially if you want to attract people towards the advocacy.
It wasn't really the outdoor issue its the execution, even small music festivals have better outdoor stages than that and covered too.
But remember most people in production in the Philippines are only there due to connections/ corruption and being rich enough to study for it, skills/talent are secondary.
Fire them all and revamp the media/production in the PH with fresh talented people or people with talent
Stoichio wrote:Natalie Mendoza wrote:Stoichio wrote:mybadname wrote:Jenny is a saving grace from a lame and disastrous production.
Oh the pageant has concluded already?
It is so unfortunate to see how this pageant has devolved.
Probably, only 0.01% of PH population knows its activities or that it is on-going.
Without the ‘height controversy’, no one would talk about it.
If MWPh 2022 was bad, this is waaaay worse.
The winner is beautiful. You are right “she is the saving grace”.
Hopefully, this is not a preview of what’s to come in ME 2022.
Else, they should just sell it to the Vietnamese business mogul to save it from extinction or becoming irrelevant.
You are spot on
I'm glad Jenny won But....
Honestly I'm not surprised, Philippines generally has well below average production skills and the most low quality media around, neither are they innovative in the right way pity because we have plenty of material to work from like our culture. Miss Earth is a step in the wrong direction they need to remember "entertainment" is still primary for any pageant especially if you want to attract people towards the advocacy.
It wasn't really the outdoor issue its the execution, even small music festivals have better outdoor stages than that and covered too.
But remember most people in production in the Philippines are only there due to connections/ corruption and being rich enough to study for it, skills/talent are secondary.
Fire them all and revamp the media/production in the PH with fresh talented people or people with talent
That’s what happens when Pinoys make ABS-CBN the standard for productions of this kind of events or concerts. It has cheapened the taste and standards of Filipinos, and these media networks won’t give a f*ck, as long as Filipinos would buy it.
I bet some Miss Earth blind fanatics would even praise this edition to high heavens
That’s how low the standards of some Pinoys.
After MWPh 2022, almost all of us were disappointed and called the sets of finalists as mehhh, but looking at these coronation photos frame by frame. MPE is just on a different level. Compared to MPE, MWPh set of finalists is actually pretty decent. And they won’t stand a chance in Q&A with these MWPh finalists.
Sigh….MPE nowadays could not even attract at least 4 or 5 quality girls anymore like in the past. And more heartbreaking is the fact that most Pinoys (99.9%) don’t give a damn about this pageant anymore.
beautywatchnyc wrote:
But even if only a measly .0001% of Pinoy fans care to bother (forget in the meantime the 99.9% disgruntled followers), Carousel/MEO can survive on the strength of it's liquid revenues earned from multiple franchises from committed patrons in the overseas markets. It's business as usual for MPE never mind that it's the most ill-regarded pageant in the home front. The odds are against the local organizers to say the least. The income stream is seen to dry up unless progressive remedies are taken into play in order to reverse it's cash outflows. Monson's business acumen is being challenged although it won't be long enough before the coffers dry up, unless .... Or, perhaps there are untested corporate strategies in Monson's arsenal which could even surprise the disheartened believer. The perennial optimist says let's wait and see what comes after this.
Stoichio wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
But even if only a measly .0001% of Pinoy fans care to bother (forget in the meantime the 99.9% disgruntled followers), Carousel/MEO can survive on the strength of it's liquid revenues earned from multiple franchises from committed patrons in the overseas markets. It's business as usual for MPE never mind that it's the most ill-regarded pageant in the home front. The odds are against the local organizers to say the least. The income stream is seen to dry up unless progressive remedies are taken into play in order to reverse it's cash outflows. Monson's business acumen is being challenged although it won't be long enough before the coffers dry up, unless .... Or, perhaps there are untested corporate strategies in Monson's arsenal which could even surprise the disheartened believer. The perennial optimist says let's wait and see what comes after this.
As pointed out by one passionate ME fan that funds are never an issue, it doesn’t translate to the kind of production or show they stage. What’s the real issue then?
Monson is a bit hesitant for change and progress. I say this in the context of him being the head of PSE. It has been 2 years since they announced that the Philippine Stock Exchange would adapt the same Western market trading i.e. adding short selling or shorting. 2 years past and nothing has happened. He is hampering the ways that Filipinos can make out of the Philippine market. That is why more Filipinos are now more active trading in US or Europe stock markets because they gain and earn even if the market is falling.
If they truly care with the advocacy, they should partner with the Vietnamese business mogul.in order for ME to gain more popularity, reach, and influence.
Stoichio wrote:
Ok, let me just put it simple terms:
“If other pageant orgs (deemed lesser or minor by many) can deliver, why can’t ME?
beautywatchnyc wrote:Stoichio wrote:
Ok, let me just put it simple terms:
“If other pageant orgs (deemed lesser or minor by many) can deliver, why can’t ME?
In the same context, a glossy production to eclipse and outclass the rest of pageant orgs in the country was not MEP top agenda. That's just my own opinion.
MEP opted to downsize and they probably didn't much care to bother about the competition in the home front. Worrying about intra-org production capability is the least among MEP/Carousel's concerns. Ask the same question to a dozen respondents here in the fora and each one will fire back a reply (lackluster or worse!) not quite dissimilar to the others before him. Only MEP can clear the answer. Not any random forumer in these pages.
beautywatchnyc wrote:Stoichio wrote:
Ok, let me just put it simple terms:
“If other pageant orgs (deemed lesser or minor by many) can deliver, why can’t ME?
In the same context, a glossy production to eclipse and outclass the rest of pageant orgs in the country was not MEP top agenda. That's just my own opinion.
MEP opted to downsize and they probably didn't much care to bother about the competition in the home front. Worrying about intra-org production capability is the least among MEP/Carousel's concerns. Ask the same question to a dozen respondents here in the fora and each one will fire back a reply (lackluster or worse!) not quite dissimilar to the others before him. Only MEP can clear the answer. Not any random forumer in these pages.
Stoichio wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:Stoichio wrote:
Ok, let me just put it simple terms:
“If other pageant orgs (deemed lesser or minor by many) can deliver, why can’t ME?
In the same context, a glossy production to eclipse and outclass the rest of pageant orgs in the country was not MEP top agenda. That's just my own opinion.
MEP opted to downsize and they probably didn't much care to bother about the competition in the home front. Worrying about intra-org production capability is the least among MEP/Carousel's concerns. Ask the same question to a dozen respondents here in the fora and each one will fire back a reply (lackluster or worse!) not quite dissimilar to the others before him. Only MEP can clear the answer. Not any random forumer in these pages.
Saying MPE is not prioritized because they are focusing on ME, why can’t they just give the local franchise to another national pageants so it will be given justice and not be treated as “less priority”. What a pity. I don’t subscribe to that mindset or reasoning coz it’s all patrionizing mediocrity or worse..
beautywatchnyc wrote:Stoichio wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:Stoichio wrote:
Ok, let me just put it simple terms:
“If other pageant orgs (deemed lesser or minor by many) can deliver, why can’t ME?
In the same context, a glossy production to eclipse and outclass the rest of pageant orgs in the country was not MEP top agenda. That's just my own opinion.
MEP opted to downsize and they probably didn't much care to bother about the competition in the home front. Worrying about intra-org production capability is the least among MEP/Carousel's concerns. Ask the same question to a dozen respondents here in the fora and each one will fire back a reply (lackluster or worse!) not quite dissimilar to the others before him. Only MEP can clear the answer. Not any random forumer in these pages.
Saying MPE is not prioritized because they are focusing on ME, why can’t they just give the local franchise to another national pageants so it will be given justice and not be treated as “less priority”. What a pity. I don’t subscribe to that mindset or reasoning coz it’s all patrionizing mediocrity or worse..
..."give"? ... hand over ... I'm tempted to say so too, the sooner the better. All disappointment and frustration can be vented on this page but no one not even the loyalists among them all (I can name at least 2 in the fora) will be able to give a justified answer except perhaps for the owners to do just that. I think the triumvirate has the collegial reason(s), right or wrong, I'd be interested to know if someone cares to ask them. Monson himself should listen about all the blatant mediocrity and how things must change for the viewing public's confidence to be resuscitated.
esquire27 wrote:It is just the pinoys who are claiming this cheap pageant to be a big four pageant! In fact, it cannot even produce a quality pageant. The ME fans are having a hard time defending this low quality pageant when compared to MGI. I lost interest in this pageant when they keep on crowning miss philippines.
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