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Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby ajsy0203 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:54 pm

    

Are these 3 factors (Attitude, Personality & Politics) helped Karolina won the 70th Miss World crown and the also the selection of Final 13 & Final 6? Do you think Miss World is no longer a beauty contest but a job interview?


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Re: Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby esperasave » Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:21 am

We don't care enough anymore of those top 6 or 12 when we have determined the winner. As Gloria Diaz have said, its only the winner will be remembered. But if they are all in the competition, placement does matter in every steps of the way. However, Karolina fits the bill in all Beauty Standards that is physical, mental and attitude. Likewise, she still needs the proper guidance of her National Director and MWO to circumnavigate her journey to a successful reign whole year because she'll be busy meeting with people of all walks of life and most especially World Leaders. Hope that with MWO and Miss Poland now Miss World can ease out some conflicts happening in her Region. MWO can be more relevant now than The United Nation. Where's The UN now when its members are experiencing difficulties with international relations. That should always be the case when different country or nations experiencing conflicts, even just a representative of UN should always be there to talk to them, meditate and negotiate to let them meet halfway with any issues to avoid escalation but to mitigate resolutions. Just like the pandemic here in THE US, The CDC was always there until now that it is resolving. Come April 15, we are pandemic free. The Covid cases are too low and not a threat anymore. Politics? She's just too young to play Politics. It's for the Old and Mature Persons to play with it on how you ever manage it with your life experiences.
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Re: Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby riverrobles » Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:48 am

Is it not the same in Miss Universe and Miss Earth ?

Have you seen previous Miss World, look at Miss World 1993 and then answer your question.

Look at Miss Universe 1999, then answer your question.

Look at Miss Earth 2017, then answer your question.

Please do not single out Miss World.

People forget we are not the judges assigned during the prelims and finals night, we are pure spectators.

If people want change, either you create a business within the pageant industry and disrupt this industry, create a new "beauty pageant" on your own or your clique since this is what you want it to be called, join a pageant or sponsor a delegate until she wins the nationals and represent your country until she gets an international assignment.

To be honest, AJ, the topic reeks of sourgraping. You or anyone can not stop NDs sending delegates just because you did not like the outcome. Just in case for example the Philippines ends the 12 year-streak iin Miss Universe, gosh I'd be afraid of the effect on fanatics and zealots, will they hurt themselves just because their egos were hurt because of a non-placement. Please do not stir the pot and keep cooking stories out of the blue, the winner Miss Poland is deserving, the Top 3 is deserving, the Top 5 is deserving, the Top 13 is deserving, the Top 40 is deserving.

You win some, you lose some. It is as simple as that. We should be happy that other Asian countries are getting the attention aside from the Philippines.
Focus on the weakness of your bet delegate and tell them to improve but do not invalidate another delegate's win or higher placement, it is really inappropriate behaviour, it shows insecurity, jealousy and ill-will. As fans and real missosologists here, chose the high road and do not stoop down to gutter levels. A different opinion is ok, constructive criticism is ok but to invalidate just based on hearsay without facts is pure disinformation. What people should do is interview the supposed front-runners who you've thought were robbed like Miss SA, Miss Venezuela, Miss India - I will have respect if even them can tell us why they thought they did not place or won the pageant. I want to hear that, that would be more interesting than letting pundits here give their opinions.
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Re: Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby esperasave » Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:56 am

riverrobles wrote:Is it not the same in Miss Universe and Miss Earth ?

Have you seen previous Miss World, look at Miss World 1993 and then answer your question.

Look at Miss Universe 1999, then answer your question.

Look at Miss Earth 2017, then answer your question.

Please do not single out Miss World.

People forget we are not the judges assigned during the prelims and finals night, we are pure spectators.

If people want change, either you create a business within the pageant industry and disrupt this industry, create a new "beauty pageant" on your own or your clique since this is what you want it to be called, join a pageant or sponsor a delegate until she wins the nationals and represent your country until she gets an international assignment.

To be honest, AJ, the topic reeks of sourgraping. You or anyone can not stop NDs sending delegates just because you did not like the outcome. Just in case for example the Philippines ends the 12 year-streak iin Miss Universe, gosh I'd be afraid of the effect on fanatics and zealots, will they hurt themselves just because their egos were hurt because of a non-placement. Please do not stir the pot and keep cooking stories out of the blue, the winner Miss Poland is deserving, the Top 3 is deserving, the Top 5 is deserving, the Top 13 is deserving, the Top 40 is deserving.

You win some, you lose some. It is as simple as that. We should be happy that other Asian countries are getting the attention aside from the Philippines.
Focus on the weakness of your bet delegate and tell them to improve but do not invalidate another delegate's win or higher placement, it is really inappropriate behaviour, it shows insecurity, jealousy and ill-will. As fans and real missosologists here, chose the high road and do not stoop down to gutter levels. A different opinion is ok, constructive criticism is ok but to invalidate just based on hearsay without facts is pure disinformation. What people should do is interview the supposed front-runners who you've thought were robbed like Miss SA, Miss Venezuela, Miss India - I will have respect if even them can tell us why they thought they did not place or won the pageant. I want to hear that, that would be more interesting than letting pundits here give their opinions.


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Re: Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby Mariana Erwin » Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:01 am

I think so - although Karolina deserved to win this pageant nevertheless. However, Miss World has always been like this and I no longer really want to deal with their criteria anymore.
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Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:39 am

every contests in the world has politics involved

Eurovision Song Contest is politics
Olympics is also politics

Not just pageants.
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Postby manoypoe » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:36 am

Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:every contests in the world has politics involved

Eurovision Song Contest is politics
Olympics is also politics

Not just pageants.


Olympics is hard to manipulate esp if there are no judges involved.
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Re: Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby esperasave » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:56 am

manoypoe wrote:
Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:every contests in the world has politics involved

Eurovision Song Contest is politics
Olympics is also politics

Not just pageants.


Olympics is hard to manipulate esp if there are no judges involved.


That's why you put a Standard or Criteria to any competitions so it's hard to infuse Politics to it. No one will cheat either.
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Re: Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby elio » Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:37 am

HONESTLY THE WINNER IS PRETTY,WELL SPOKEN ,TALL AND GREAT LADY,I DO RESPECT HER AND CONGRATULATES HER,I DID NOT SEE HER AS BIG CONTENDER BEFORE BUT ON FINALS SHE DID.

BUT SERIOUSLY THE BIGGEST MASSACRE IN PAGEANTRY OF NON INCLUSION OF MISS VENEZUELA,MISS SOUTH AFRICA IN TOP 13 AND INDIA IN TOP 6.
THEY WERE THE BEST 3 DELEGATES BY FAR,VENEZUELA THE MOST STUNNING BY FAR AND VERY CHARISMATIC,INDIA VERY LOVELY AND AMAZING SPEAKER AND SOUTH AFRICA SO SMART AND BEAUTIFUL ,THAT SHOCKING A EXCLUSION DRIVES IN ME SOMETHING FISHY AND POLITICAL(ELIMINATING THE BEST DELEGATES),AND POLAND IS THE COUNTRY VERY CLOSE TO THE WAR ZONE (RUSSIA/UKRAINE) THAT'S WHY I AM MAD,POLITICS SHOULD NEVER ENTER INTO PAGEANTS,THESE ARE REGULAR PEOPLE THEY ARE politicians OR GOVERNMENT,FOR ME THESE 3 (VENEZUELA,SOUTH AFRICA,INDIA) ARE THE REAL WINNERS IN MY MIND AND WILL REST FOREVER.PEACE
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Re: Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby manoypoe » Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:38 am

esperasave wrote:
manoypoe wrote:
Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:every contests in the world has politics involved

Eurovision Song Contest is politics
Olympics is also politics

Not just pageants.


Olympics is hard to manipulate esp if there are no judges involved.


That's why you put a Standard or Criteria to any competitions so it's hard to infuse Politics to it. No one will cheat either.


Computers and accounting firm during the final nights will at least lessen the impact of politics. :=p :=p
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Postby esperasave » Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:05 pm

elio wrote:HONESTLY THE WINNER IS PRETTY,WELL SPOKEN ,TALL AND GREAT LADY,I DO RESPECT HER AND CONGRATULATES HER,I DID NOT SEE HER AS BIG CONTENDER BEFORE BUT ON FINALS SHE DID.

BUT SERIOUSLY THE BIGGEST MASSACRE IN PAGEANTRY OF NON INCLUSION OF MISS VENEZUELA,MISS SOUTH AFRICA IN TOP 13 AND INDIA IN TOP 6.
THEY WERE THE BEST 3 DELEGATES BY FAR,VENEZUELA THE MOST STUNNING BY FAR AND VERY CHARISMATIC,INDIA VERY LOVELY AND AMAZING SPEAKER AND SOUTH AFRICA SO SMART AND BEAUTIFUL ,THAT SHOCKING A EXCLUSION DRIVES IN ME SOMETHING FISHY AND POLITICAL(ELIMINATING THE BEST DELEGATES),AND POLAND IS THE COUNTRY VERY CLOSE TO THE WAR ZONE (RUSSIA/UKRAINE) THAT'S WHY I AM MAD,POLITICS SHOULD NEVER ENTER INTO PAGEANTS,THESE ARE REGULAR PEOPLE THEY ARE politicians OR GOVERNMENT,FOR ME THESE 3 (VENEZUELA,SOUTH AFRICA,INDIA) ARE THE REAL WINNERS IN MY MIND AND WILL REST FOREVER.PEACE


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Postby esperasave » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:42 pm

manoypoe wrote:
esperasave wrote:
manoypoe wrote:
Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:every contests in the world has politics involved

Eurovision Song Contest is politics
Olympics is also politics

Not just pageants.


Olympics is hard to manipulate esp if there are no judges involved.


That's why you put a Standard or Criteria to any competitions so it's hard to infuse Politics to it. No one will cheat either.


Computers and accounting firm during the final nights will at least lessen the impact of politics. :=p :=p


But don't rely heavily on computer and it's tabulation. Even with computers at Miss Universe, there was switching of winners that had happened. The following year again, The National custome winner was switched and yet again involving Miss Philippines and another Asian candidate as well. Also, remember Miriam Q.'s score of 2.0. when the judge wants another higher score for her. It's also computer generated. Then in 1994, The score of Charlene and Miss USA were involved in an error during the top 6 segments. So anything can happen and it will happen but as long as it's unintentional and no cheating was made, let's just accept the result and be peaceful to all, win or lose.
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Postby mybadname » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:07 am

ajsy0203 wrote:Are these 3 factors (Attitude, Personality & Politics) helped Karolina won the 70th Miss World crown and the also the selection of Final 13 & Final 6? Do you think Miss World is no longer a beauty contest but a job interview?


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Re: Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby Sophia7 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:15 am

Miss Poland is pretty, tall but also Poland is embracing refusges. Maybe it's politically driven so Julia can go to Poland and do charity where the world's eyes are looking. Big exprosure. Nonetheless, Poland is being repaid for their good deeds and I have no problem with that!
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Re: Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby XAMURAI » Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:05 am

manoypoe wrote:
esperasave wrote:
manoypoe wrote:
Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:every contests in the world has politics involved

Eurovision Song Contest is politics
Olympics is also politics

Not just pageants.


Olympics is hard to manipulate esp if there are no judges involved.


That's why you put a Standard or Criteria to any competitions so it's hard to infuse Politics to it. No one will cheat either.


Computers and accounting firm during the final nights will at least lessen the impact of politics. :=p :=p


Computers and accounting firms will only COUNT the scores or votes. Politics - in the hearts and minds of the judges - produce the results. It even won't matter if the best accounting firm is hired to count because they will only quantify what the judges provide them.
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Re: Attitude, Personality & Politics over Beauty & Brains?

Postby esperasave » Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:43 pm

XAMURAI wrote:
manoypoe wrote:
esperasave wrote:
manoypoe wrote:
Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:every contests in the world has politics involved

Eurovision Song Contest is politics
Olympics is also politics

Not just pageants.


Olympics is hard to manipulate esp if there are no judges involved.


That's why you put a Standard or Criteria to any competitions so it's hard to infuse Politics to it. No one will cheat either.


Computers and accounting firm during the final nights will at least lessen the impact of politics. :=p :=p


Computers and accounting firms will only COUNT the scores or votes. Politics - in the hearts and minds of the judges - produce the results. It even won't matter if the best accounting firm is hired to count because they will only quantify what the judges provide them.


The Olympic style scoring is the best. Eliminating the highest and lowest score while the rest should be averaged. It will totally eradicate favoritism, biases, politicizing and also, errors in scoring by judges will not affect the candidates overall placement.
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