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Postby missheart » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:25 pm

    

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Miss World Welcomes Transgenders.

The Miss World organisation under President Julia Morley has never discriminated against transgenders. Miss World continues to evolve with its time; making it the most relevant of its kind. The rule that 'one needs to be a natural born female to participate' has been eliminated since Mrs.Morley took over the company from her late husband, Eric Morley in 2000. In many countries' it is the local MW organizer stipulation not to allow transgenders; disregarding the international MW rule completely! However, as per Miss World organisation, it isn't their right to inform Miss World national franchises how to approach their selection process. Same with rivalry beauty contest, Miss Universe.

Angela Ponce, the first transgender that will be competing for Miss Universe 2018, once competed for Miss Spain/World 2015 where Mireia Lalaguna Royo won. Mireia later went on to win the first Miss World crown for Spain. Julia Morley in 2015 had accepted Angela Ponce request to compete... Miss World organisation does not want its brand to be associated with any controversy considering it has the most controversial history of any international pageant - from bombings, religious protest clashes and hundreds being killed...

We wish Angela (the first transgender to compete in an international pageant) all the best at the upcoming Miss Universe 2018.
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Postby The Duchess » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:48 pm

I actually was not aware of this, wow great to know
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Postby bcdf1930 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:55 pm

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Postby missheart » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:01 pm

The Duchess wrote:I actually was not aware of this, wow great to know


Most Miss World competitions in countries still have a swimsuit competition round too
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Postby missheart » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:02 pm

bcdf1930 wrote::=p


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Postby The Duchess » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:06 pm

missheart wrote:
The Duchess wrote:I actually was not aware of this, wow great to know


Most Miss World competitions in countries still have a swimsuit competition round too


Oh yeah, PR has one
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Postby missheart » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:11 pm

Bangladesh Transgender dreams of becoming Miss World . She said becoming Miss World is her biggest dream
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Postby missheart » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:14 pm

Transgender Glamour Model Hopes to Win Miss World Title

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Postby missheart » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:23 pm

Miss India 2018: Want to help transgender community, says winner Anukreethy Vas

For the new Miss India, the cause closest to her heart is the education and upliftement of the transgender community.

On being asked about the reason behind the choice of her cause, Vas reveals, “As a child I had a friend in school who was a transgender and she was abandoned by her family. I tried searching for her a lot and even till today I have not been able to find her. I do not want that to happen to any other person.”

The young winner continues, “I already have an NGO that looks after the needs of 30 members of the transgender community and now that I have a voice, I hope my voice will reach more people prompting them to come forward and stand by me for my cause.”

Chhillar winning Miss World in 2017 has added fuel to Vas’ dreams of winning big.

Elaborating that her future plans are concentrated only on Miss World, the 19-year-old adds, “I have a huge responsibility towards India. Manushi Chhillar brought back the crown after 17-years. I have to keep the blue crown back.”

As for her message to youngsters, Miss India 2018, Anukreethy Vas says that it is never to late to dream.

She concludes, “Never listen to what the world wants you to become. The world will constrict you. Listen to your heart and it will let you become what you want.”
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Postby missheart » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:28 pm

The United Kingdom, unlike the USA, has all the anti-discriminatory laws in place. This could have also affected Mama's decision.
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Postby The Duchess » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:31 pm

missheart wrote:The United Kingdom, unlike the USA, has all the anti-discriminatory laws in place. This could have also affected Mama's decision.


Couldn't have said it better myself
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Postby missheart » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:40 pm

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missheart wrote:The United Kingdom, unlike the USA, has all the anti-discriminatory laws in place. This could have also affected Mama's decision.


Couldn't have said it better myself


Miss World doesn't even like to be branded as a pageant so I see more drastic changes coming. I could expect divorce women and single mother's in the near future competing.
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Postby The Duchess » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:05 pm

missheart wrote:
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missheart wrote:The United Kingdom, unlike the USA, has all the anti-discriminatory laws in place. This could have also affected Mama's decision.


Couldn't have said it better myself


Miss World doesn't even like to be branded as a pageant so I see more drastic changes coming. I could expect divorce women and single mother's in the near future competing.


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Postby favisol » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:58 pm

Where did they post that? I dont see anything on the official sites.
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Postby missheart » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:49 pm

In 2012, Jackie Green competed for Miss England for Miss World also. Miss World allows transgenders! It is just most franchises for MW don't allow them to compete which is discriminatory.Miss World has no rules on natural born female competing. The UK wouldn't allow it.
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Postby alexanderabelle » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:25 pm

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Miss World Welcomes Transgenders.

In many countries' it is the local MW organizer stipulation not to allow transgenders; disregarding the international MW rule completely! However, as per Miss World organisation, it isn't their right to inform Miss World national franchises how to approach their selection process.
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How do you know that? Proof, please. Thank you.
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Postby missheart » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:32 pm

So do you think transgenders would have competed in Miss World national pageants without Miss World organization consent? smh Miss World allow trans
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Postby micoexpress5 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:44 pm

Drag queens should be allowed too. :-*
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Postby The Duchess » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:54 pm

missheart wrote:So do you think transgenders would have competed in Miss World national pageants without Miss World organization consent? smh Miss World allow trans


I want someone to tell me how there has been trans women in Miss Universe national pageants if its not allowed then =;)) if they didnt they wouldnt participate in national pageant
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:21 pm

I think the nationals have the transgenders the right to compete since they have their own rules and regulations but so far there was no official statement from MWO themselves that they will accept transgenders to the competition aside from the 1972 incident that they only allegedly found out that Miss Hong Kong is a transgender?
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Postby mybadname » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:09 am

No to transgender competing in an all female beauty pageant such as Miss World and Miss Universe. They should find their own niche in the sun. Whatever their reasons are, these transgenders were born male and should have no place in a beauty pageant intended for natural born women. They can join Miss International Queen instead.
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Postby The Duchess » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:13 am

ajsy0203 wrote:I think the nationals have the transgenders the right to compete since they have their own rules and regulations but so far there was no official statement from MWO themselves that they will accept transgenders to the competition aside from the 1972 incident that they only allegedly found out that Miss Hong Kong is a transgender?


But countries do have to follow a set of rules even if they can add their own, im not sure how for example Spain would even allow a girl to compete that would be disqualified. There has to me some explanation then
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Postby The Duchess » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:16 am

mybadname wrote:No to transgender competing in an all female beauty pageant such as Miss World and Miss Universe. They should find their own niche in the sun. Whatever their reasons are, these transgenders were born male and should have no place in a beauty pageant intended for natural born women. They can join Miss International Queen instead.


Miss Universe stopped being cisgender exclusive since 2012-2013, as long as your country legaly recognizes you as a woman and you wont be persecuted.

Maybe if Miss International Queen was at the level of Miss Universe she would join, but its not. She shouldnt have to settle with small dreams when she wants to be in the most prestigious pageant and that pageant allows it. Theres no foul here.Follow a pageant that fit your beliefs better if you feel so strongly against the rules of this pageant.
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Postby ajsy0203 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:45 am

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ajsy0203 wrote:I think the nationals have the transgenders the right to compete since they have their own rules and regulations but so far there was no official statement from MWO themselves that they will accept transgenders to the competition aside from the 1972 incident that they only allegedly found out that Miss Hong Kong is a transgender?


But countries do have to follow a set of rules even if they can add their own, im not sure how for example Spain would even allow a girl to compete that would be disqualified. There has to me some explanation then


I think MW and Miss Universe Spain franchise were both from the same organization in 2015-2016 where Angela won Miss Universe Spain 2018? In 2017, Miss World Spain franchise was given to another franchise holder.
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Postby jhunz23 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:57 am

Well in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking this matter in a different way and without fighting and by trying to make it clear, and by considering each and every one opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say.
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Postby pineal » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:26 am

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Postby juicy_fruit146 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:40 am

FAKE NEWS! MISS WORLD DID NOT MAKE THAT STATEMENT! LMAO =;)) =;))
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Postby Rauma » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:59 am

I'm not sure if this is true or not. Morley is quiet conservative for this. To me transgender people are as valuable as others but when it goes to beauty pageants I don't like it. Where is natural beauty then? One can't be totally open when it goes to beauty pageants. Because beauty pageants are in fact kind a discriminating: beautiful against less pretty, thin against fat etc....

And transgender male, redone to a woman, can't compete as a female athlete either btw.

Well, I have to correct myself. What I don't like is the fuss the transgender individual usually creates. If Miss Ponce went to the beauty pageant not telling that she is transgender, no one might realize that. I don't think they check their birth certificates. And if her transformation is done she has a new ID where her sex is female. But sometimes it feels that transgender people seek attention for being transgender and not the opposite sex. And that's my problem with them.
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Postby novemberRain » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:04 pm

juicy_fruit146 wrote:
FAKE NEWS! MISS WORLD DID NOT MAKE THAT STATEMENT! LMAO =;)) =;))


Exactly. :-D

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Postby esquire27 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:35 pm

mybadname wrote:No to transgender competing in an all female beauty pageant such as Miss World and Miss Universe. They should find their own niche in the sun. Whatever their reasons are, these transgenders were born male and should have no place in a beauty pageant intended for natural born women. They can join Miss International Queen instead.


I agree! No matter how many surgeries that transgender would undergo, he is still a male! He should not be tolerated in joining pageants for naturally born women. If his dream is to become a beauty queen then he can join that pageant in thailand. He should know his limits! I am very disappointed with the Org for crowning him.
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