Hot Issue: Bidding Wars?

[ajsy0203]

[Virginia Dalisay]

[Arduina]

If true, I feel this is very disrespectful for historical partners.
As long as they follow rules obviously.

[Jayah]

Pera pera na lng ang Miss Universe. Kaloka. Mag sugarcoat at eme na lng si Anne after makalikom ng pera. Goodbye sa mga National Orgs na loyal at nagpakahirap i-angat ang Miss Universe brand ng ilang taon. Mas mahalaga kay Anne ang pera!

[kantutay]

Anne is showing her true colors already. Money talks. Puteri is the first casualty. I’m sure there’s more to follow.

[IanC062]

If true, I feel this is very disrespectful for historical partners.
As long as they follow rules obviously.

In complete agreement with you.

I understand that some organisations need a shake up, but this just screams of MONEY and is disrespectful to the established pageants. Look at Bb. Pilipinas and Senorita Colombia, and now Puteri Indonesia.
They stand for tradition and yet since the MUO separated them out, it has become a death knell for them.

I don't know. It just seems like their is no respect for tradition and culture with this move. And also the bidding is private and at the MUO's discretion? So surely they are going to start rewarding countries who are paying more. As if sash wasn't strong enough.

[ajsy0203]

The Filipino pageant fans are now taking advantage over the bidding wars especially they already fed up with Jonas and Shamcey's "poor" leadership over Celeste's non-placement at 71st Miss Universe and hoping that BPCI will "win" the bidding war if they still have the interest of regaining Miss Universe license?

[XAMURAI]

Main winner of Puteri Indonesia will go to Miss International.

There are many more groups who are now preparing to shift their loyalty to Miss International... My mailbox is overflowing with messages!!!

[kantutay]

The Filipino pageant fans are now taking advantage over the bidding wars especially they already fed up with Jonas and Shamcey's "poor" leadership over Celeste's non-placement at 71st Miss Universe and hoping that BPCI will "win" the bidding war if they still have the interest of regaining Miss Universe license?

The sponsors of current MUPH may not be as generous this time with Celeste’s non placement. The franchise might be up for grabs.

[IwanSetiawan]

Main winner of Puteri Indonesia will go to Miss International.

There are many more groups who are now preparing to shift their loyalty to Miss International... My mailbox is overflowing with messages!!!

Puteri Indonesia actually fits Miss International more than Miss Universe. Puteris are expected to act like royal princess, polite, demure, respectful etc. If they want to be fierce and sultry they usually wait until they leave for the competition, especially the ones who compete in Miss Universe and MS.

[quelab22]

With all of this chaotic happenings in MUOrg... It just shows that Miss World, Miss International and Miss Earth are becoming more stable and has respect for the ND and Franchise Holders...

[XAMURAI]

Main winner of Puteri Indonesia will go to Miss International.

There are many more groups who are now preparing to shift their loyalty to Miss International... My mailbox is overflowing with messages!!!

Puteri Indonesia actually fits Miss International more than Miss Universe. Puteris are expected to act like royal princess, polite, demure, respectful etc. If they want to be fierce and sultry they usually wait until they leave for the competition, especially the ones who compete in Miss Universe and MS.

I agree with you! The pageant might of Puteri is actually proof that you don't need swimsuit competition to make the show entertaining! Even if I do not understand Bahasa Indonesia, I'm still entertained by Puteri Indonesia.

[IwanSetiawan]

Main winner of Puteri Indonesia will go to Miss International.

There are many more groups who are now preparing to shift their loyalty to Miss International... My mailbox is overflowing with messages!!!

Puteri Indonesia actually fits Miss International more than Miss Universe. Puteris are expected to act like royal princess, polite, demure, respectful etc. If they want to be fierce and sultry they usually wait until they leave for the competition, especially the ones who compete in Miss Universe and MS.

I agree with you! The pageant might of Puteri is actually proof that you don't need swimsuit competition to make the show entertaining! Even if I do not understand Bahasa Indonesia, I'm still entertained by Puteri Indonesia.

I am glad you enjoyed the pageant. Sometimes I feel bad for the international queens who attended the Puteri's finale, they had to sit there for hours not knowing what people were saying. I remember Olivia Culpo said that Roston Ogata told her to bring some hot chilli peppers to the arena just in case she gets bored and sleepy, she can nibble those hot peppers to prevent her from falling asleep
Luckily in the last few years more and more contestants have used English in their speeches or to answer the questions.

[XAMURAI]

Main winner of Puteri Indonesia will go to Miss International.

There are many more groups who are now preparing to shift their loyalty to Miss International... My mailbox is overflowing with messages!!!

Puteri Indonesia actually fits Miss International more than Miss Universe. Puteris are expected to act like royal princess, polite, demure, respectful etc. If they want to be fierce and sultry they usually wait until they leave for the competition, especially the ones who compete in Miss Universe and MS.

I agree with you! The pageant might of Puteri is actually proof that you don't need swimsuit competition to make the show entertaining! Even if I do not understand Bahasa Indonesia, I'm still entertained by Puteri Indonesia.

I am glad you enjoyed the pageant. Sometimes I feel bad for the international queens who attended the Puteri's finale, they had to sit there for hours not knowing what people were saying. I remember Olivia Culpo said that Roston Ogata told her to bring some hot chilli peppers to the arena just in case she gets bored and sleepy, she can nibble those hot peppers to prevent her from falling asleep
Luckily in the last few years more and more contestants have used English in their speeches or to answer the questions.

Well, I cannot complain because Miss International also uses 70% Japanese and it's supposed to be an "international" pageant. So I have no right to complain.

I just love watching while not thinking. Hahaha! Miss France uses French language only, but I am also entertained by it from start to finish! I remember many years ago when I still got the chance to watch Miss Russia. That national pageant screamed ELEGANCE to the exponential level!

[jaedenph2022]

Hopefully Miss Universe Philippines franchise returns to Binibining Pilipinas.

[panchopolo]

I have lost at least 93% of my old interest in pageantry for a while now, with all the "transformational" and "evolutionary" glib talk paraded to give today's pageantry a relevant sheen. I was still hoping the JKN acquisition would elevate it. And now, with the new MUO memo to NDs flooding social media, I'm left wondering if it's time for me to remain a casual pageant observer permanently. It's become too ahead of my time.

Anne is being true to form: from the get-go, she wants the Miss Universe brand to be a lucrative investment, and charging the highest license fees for the most prestigious crown makes sense. But the memo that has been shared across all socmed channels--if indeed it is bona fide--has a cold and calculating tone. "You want prestige? Do you want ROI? Then prove your worth to me as your business partner" is what it simply says in effect. Nothing wrong--it's an fiscal partnership after all--but this is not encouraging to license holders with smaller capital--for example, Bahrain and the smaller countries. How do these smaller groups recoup their investment? Will their crown-holders be lucrative advertising ambassadors for the big-budgeted consumer and retail companies? (That, apparently, is why the memo requires a marketing plan from the NDs.)

Which leads to the frightening existential possibility that a non-local will own and run the franchise. Already, an Indonesian singer/actress with zero pageant background--and she's touted as "Anne's best friend" in socmed--now owns the Miss Universe franchise for both Malaysia and Indonesia. While some find this a complete non-issue, I do: there are countries where foreign direct investments in local business are not allowed. There are nations where beauty pageantry has taken nationalist symbolism (Thailand, the Philippines). I can't think of a Filipino entity being thrown into this bidding process, so I won't be surprised if the MUPH license goes to a non-Filipino.

I can't help thinking that the winning bid will be given to the group that has the best marketing plan . . . for bottled water. Punyemas.

[Prozac]

Shakedown is now trending in Miss Universe and the changing of the guards in national pageants is hugging the
limelight. More and more questions are sprouting like mushrooms and the new trend seemed like a make or break
to Miss Universe Org. At this time we could not really tell what is really in store in the future ... so we are following these
developments with eagle eyes.

1. Will this be a plus or a minus, and will the New Directors live up to Anne's expectations?
2. Does Anne have problems with the old guards?
3. Does Anne's friendship with National Directors decide who will be given the green light?
4. Is Anne doing this ... so she can have complete control ... new owner ... new members ... new Miss
Universe brand? Or all these exercises boil down to ... MONEY!
5. Does beauty pageants and business can really mix ... or are they like the proverbial tubig at langis?
6. And lastly ... does owning and running a franchise mean - it will be given to the highest bidder even
though she has zero experience in pageantry?

At the launch of JKN Phenomenal 2023 Business Guide Strategy, Khun Ann clearly said that her goal is to expand and increase
revenue from license sales to each country to send delegates to the Miss Universe pageant. The current fee is $ 3 million, which
will increase to $5 million.

[goddessoxana27]

I have lost at least 93% of my old interest in pageantry for a while now, with all the "transformational" and "evolutionary" glib talk paraded to give today's pageantry a relevant sheen. I was still hoping the JKN acquisition would elevate it. And now, with the new MUO memo to NDs flooding social media, I'm left wondering if it's time for me to remain a casual pageant observer permanently. It's become too ahead of my time.

Anne is being true to form: from the get-go, she wants the Miss Universe brand to be a lucrative investment, and charging the highest license fees for the most prestigious crown makes sense. But the memo that has been shared across all socmed channels--if indeed it is bona fide--has a cold and calculating tone. "You want prestige? Do you want ROI? Then prove your worth to me as your business partner" is what it simply says in effect. Nothing wrong--it's an fiscal partnership after all--but this is not encouraging to license holders with smaller capital--for example, Bahrain and the smaller countries. How do these smaller groups recoup their investment? Will their crown-holders be lucrative advertising ambassadors for the big-budgeted consumer and retail companies? (That, apparently, is why the memo requires a marketing plan from the NDs.)

Which leads to the frightening existential possibility that a non-local will own and run the franchise. Already, an Indonesian singer/actress with zero pageant background--and she's touted as "Anne's best friend" in socmed--now owns the Miss Universe franchise for both Malaysia and Indonesia. While some find this a complete non-issue, I do: there are countries where foreign direct investments in local business are not allowed. There are nations where beauty pageantry has taken nationalist symbolism (Thailand, the Philippines). I can't think of a Filipino entity being thrown into this bidding process, so I won't be surprised if the MUPH license goes to a non-Filipino.

I can't help thinking that the winning bid will be given to the group that has the best marketing plan . . . for bottled water. Punyemas.

ninegosyo ang tubig... ewan...

so tasteful... pero bet ko sana sa Bb. Pilipinas mapunta ang MUP... sumali na kasi ang close friend ko... kaya... paramdam muna ako sa soc med...


hihihi

[kantutay]

As Ive mentioned in another post, Anne is a shady character like Nawat. Expect her close friends and her boot lickers to get the new franchises. Expect the girls fielded by her friends to make it or win.

[Ian Sebastin]

The Philippines needs a new franchise. Corruption and money laundering. Then Shamcey walking out after her delegate did not place.

I am all for bidding wars.

[Handsama]

My read on this is that the new org wants to get the highest franchise fee offers from their NDs. The org wants to squeeze every dollar it can get. The inherent threat is that if a ND doesn’t bid enough, then someone else could take over. Forget about past loyalties.

This puts the NDs at a tough predicament. I kinda feel sorry for them. This move by the MUO reeks of opportunism.

[XAMURAI]

The franchise is NOT $5 million. Jusko naman kung maka marites ang mga tao dito. Mali mali ang kinakalat na info!

The target collection for licensing alone is increased to $5million from the current $3million. That is why they want to find a higher bidder compared to the current one.

[Chupando's Angels]

Kalokahhh, dapat ang presyo ng franchise fee is equal or pare pareho sa lahat ng bansa para walang discrimination at favoritism.

Siyempre, mas papaboran ni vaklang nagpaputol ng tite pero boses halimaw yung mas malaki ang bayad sa franchise fee compared dun sa mga poorisima na waley datung at barya barya lang ang kayang ibayad.

In short, MONEY TALKS ang labanan. At ginamit ng bruhang malditang malanding Anne na yan ang MUO para mas makakolekta siya ng pera pang anda niya dun sa mga lalaki niya.

Nyeta, mas gahaman pa pala tong vaklang toh kaysa kay Trump !!!

[Virginia Dalisay]

[ambasing]

Kalokahhh, dapat ang presyo ng franchise fee is equal or pare pareho sa lahat ng bansa para walang discrimination at favoritism.

Siyempre, mas papaboran ni vaklang nagpaputol ng tite pero boses halimaw yung mas malaki ang bayad sa franchise fee compared dun sa mga poorisima na waley datung at barya barya lang ang kayang ibayad.

In short, MONEY TALKS ang labanan. At ginamit ng bruhang malditang malanding Anne na yan ang MUO para mas makakolekta siya ng pera pang anda niya dun sa mga lalaki niya.

Nyeta, mas gahaman pa pala tong vaklang toh kaysa kay Trump !!!

Hahaha siyempre mas gahaman sa pera ang halimaw na yan kase sino ba namang magkakagusto sa kanya kung walang pera!!!kaloka—parang multo si bakla - tapal tapal na ang muk up pero mukhang malaki talaga ang ulo at maliit ang katawan kaya parang halimaw hahahha

[goddessoxana27]

Kalokahhh, dapat ang presyo ng franchise fee is equal or pare pareho sa lahat ng bansa para walang discrimination at favoritism.

Siyempre, mas papaboran ni vaklang nagpaputol ng tite pero boses halimaw yung mas malaki ang bayad sa franchise fee compared dun sa mga poorisima na waley datung at barya barya lang ang kayang ibayad.

In short, MONEY TALKS ang labanan. At ginamit ng bruhang malditang malanding Anne na yan ang MUO para mas makakolekta siya ng pera pang anda niya dun sa mga lalaki niya.

Nyeta, mas gahaman pa pala tong vaklang toh kaysa kay Trump !!!

Hahaha siyempre mas gahaman sa pera ang halimaw na yan kase sino ba namang magkakagusto sa kanya kung walang pera!!!kaloka—parang multo si bakla - tapal tapal na ang muk up pero mukhang malaki talaga ang ulo at maliit ang katawan kaya parang halimaw hahahha

eto ba siya

[ms_melanie]

The amount of transphobia on some of the comments here. You can actually criticize the org and the owner without invalidating their gender identity.

I may support Anne in many ways but detaching the franchises to tradition may actually impact the Miss Universe negatively. We've seen that from MUPH and MUColombia. Puteri, Binibini, Senorita, Nuestra and other decades old frachise holders have loyals fans and Miss Universe needs them now more than ever because in this day and age of social media, pageants are becoming more and more irrelevant. Instead of working together with these orgs, they detach themselves to create a separate entity which will start from the scratch.

I'm just really sad for what's happening but if more national directors are reaching out to Miss International, good for them. MI Org needs to take this opportunity to further improve the pageant. Here's to hoping that they can stage the pageant outside Japan because they were able to do that in China.

[SUPER ADONIS]

5. Here are the parties that are bidding or have shown interests in acquiring the Philippine License:

A. The current license holders. = Jonas & Shamcey of MUPH


B. A Giant Media Network represented by their VP for Programming. = GMA media network


C. A Miss Universe Sponsor. = Olivia Quido skincare


D. A Talent Manager and Producer who has the propensity to acquire pageant franchises. = Arnold Vegafria of ALV


E. Social Media entity and producer of record-breaking modeling contests. = Ben Chan of BENCH

[SUPER ADONIS]

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[Brenda Maita Lucrecia]