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Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby jhunz23 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:45 am

    

Kung harap harapan na kausap mo si Jonas ano sasabihin nyo?!

GO! Ilabas na ang gusto nyong sabihin!


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Postby JamesBand007 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:59 am

I would tell Jonas BILIS MO NAMANG MA LA-OS bwahahaha buti pa si Osmel Souza kahit papaano mga ilang DEKADA din siyang ON THE TOP of the Universe with her girls from Venezuela.

:!! :!! :!! :%)) :%)) :%)) :%(( :%(( :%((
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Postby Coco_Calamay » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:39 am

‘Musta pare .
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby jhunz23 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:44 am

Nakita ko lang

“ Dear Jonas Gaffud,

Hindi Effective kay Celeste Cortesi ang Stategy niyong
"know when to peak" panahon pa yan ni Shamcey Supsup
Kakahold back niyo sa prelims at best dress for finals tuloy unplaced ang Miss Universe Philippines. Maganda naman pamamalakad niyo lalo ang Trainings kaso iba na kasi ang Criteria ng Miss Universe lalo at 50% ang Interiew.

Di pa ba kayo natuto sa pagbackout ni Catriona Gray sa camp ninyo kasi kayo lagi nasusunod, halos gawin niyo nga siyang Megan Bata 2.0, bakit di niyo gayahin ang strategy niya since siya ang pamantayan.

Wala talaga sa judges ang problema✔️✔️✔️”
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby jhunz23 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:45 am

Saw this on instagram. Well tunay naman. If Jonas just let Celeste & The Camp do their job, edi sana baka nag-iba ang result. Sinolo kasi niya eh. Cinontroll niya si Celeste. Queen maker yarn?

PLEASE LET OUR VOICE BE HEARD!

Jonas needs to stop controlling the girls! Let our next Miss Philippines & her original team/camp do their job.

Although he is a great Queen Maker, but unfortunately, his time is up!

Nakakalungkot na mukhang Celeste Cortesi is the sacrificial lamb sa pamumuno ni Jonas.
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby jhunz23 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:52 am

Ito ang problema ko sa MUPh org, since train nila ang mga kandidata natin:
1. They tamed our Queens. Same ng path lahat eh.
Nawala 'yong pagiging bakla, yong youthful awra ni Rabiya, pagiging tigress ni Bea, at yong hubadera appeal ni Celeste na ginusto natin.
Masyadong structured ang ginawa sa kanila.
2. No creative freedom to our candidates. Wala silang say sa EG nila. Lahat si Jonas ang may final say.
Imagine if hindi umalis si Cat sa camp nila, baka wala pa tayong 4th crown.
3. Lack of preparation. Ilang buwan na nakoronahan si Celeste pero gahol pa rin ang Natcos at EG niya, pati kay Rabiya.
4. Rehashed at outdated na "know when to peak." Lecheng strategy ito. Prelims pa lang pasabog na agad.
5. The org making Celeste as sweet Miss
International prototype during the prelims is the biggest mistake they make. Hindi si Celeste ion.
Hubadera si Celeste, they should have stick to that image of hers.
Hindi rin nakatulong a parang ilag siyang makisama sa ibang kandidata. Kasi kung relatability ang image na gustong iportray ni Celeste, then act like one.
Nagmukha siyang diva sa NOLA eh.
Overall, hindi deserve ni Celeste ito kasi she deserves so much more! She is poised to get that crown prior to the prelims. Pero dahil sa maling "packaging" at prelim performance, El Tocuyo tuloy.
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Postby radagasdas » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:19 am

Huling halakhak ni Madame Stella Marquez de Araneta =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) maganda na nga yung naging momentum ng Pilipinas, kaso pinipilit nyo ibigay sa grupo ni Jonas at Shamcey then after 3 years, naligwak si Philippines sa wakas sa world stage. =;)) =;)) =;)) parang malas ang 13th year streak. Unlike the list below -

First, Venezuela in its 13th year streak in 1995 they placed Top 6

Second, USA in its 1st 13th year streak in 1970, they got 1st Runner Up.

USA's 2nd set of its 13th year streak in 1989, they won the 2nd Runner Up.

Let me congratulate Laos for placing the Top 16 at Miss Universe 2022, and also Top 8 at Miss International 2017 since Laos officially join the world's pageantry in 2017. :=p :!! =D> =D> The best placements so far at the 2 biggest pageants in the world. :7 :7 :7
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby RatedX » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:33 am

Ipaliwanag ni Ilong Ranger ito:

https://twitter.com/AltKapamilyaCH/status/1614534614374285312?t=Z-Ouzn6AXvxO31PQ2kq-Qg&s=19

Iniwanan nila sa ere si Celeste dahil ligwak. Ganyan din daw ginawa nila noon kay Rabiya. Napaka-deplorable na ugali kung true iyan.
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby jhunz23 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:54 pm

Celeste did not make it to Top 16 and I probably know the reason why.

Prior to this day's coronation day, I've been following pageant pages on Instagram like I used to since 2016. These pageant pages get the latest insider tips from both local and international pageant scenes including the Super Bowl of all pageants, Miss Universe. Just like you, I'm surprised as well that Philippines did not make it to the semifinals, but this post is intended to shed light on the possible reasons this happened.

1. This edition of Miss Universe placed utmost importance on the candidate's backstory, advocacy, and communication skills. The new owner of MUO, Anne JKN, a Thai business mogul, emphasized from the very start that they are looking for a transformational leader. Someone with a story to tell the world, someone who has a leadership and transformational journey in her life comparable to that of Bea Luigi's stint last year. Did Celeste fall short of this aspect knowing that she had a massive improvement from her Miss Earth stint to Miss Universe? I honestly don't think so, but I believe the other ladies might have more appealing stories to tell that the judges find interesting. Also, the closed door interview surely have played a big part on their criteria. ✨

2. The never-ending "KNOW WHEN TO PEAK" narrative. As Shamcey Supsup would always say, "Know when to peak." C'mon Shamcey, that was 2011, more than a decade ago! The MUPh organization has been stuck in this strategy and never listened to fans and avid supporters of our queens. Many fans and pageant analysts were a bit underwhelmed with Celeste's prelims performace (swimsuit and evening gown, not to mention the underwhelming register of the gown during the telecast). A lot of us noticed Celeste holding back with her performance because we know she can do better than smiling all throughout her ramp walk. Staying true to "know when to peak" strategy, she held back and supposedly saved her best performance for the finals. But now, will she able to do it? She missed the chance.

Know-when-to-peak is already an outdated pageant game plan that it will no longer work in today's competition. In a sea of Latinas with great showmanship and impeccable pasarelas (ramp walk), there's no room for a lady to hold back when you are given the chance to perform. Catriona, during her time, did not even blink an eye and gave her competitors a run for their money. Every day for her is peak time, no hold backs, From Day 1, as soon as Catriona arrived in Thailand, she was just there to claim her crown. No one came close. ✨

3. A slap to bully pageant fans. Oh, Filipinos know this very well. We are everywhere, Facebook, Twitter, Tiktok, Instagram. There are always peenoise who throw hate on other ladies. Remember Canada's Nova Stevens during Miss Universe 2020? Some peenoise called her the n-word. Just this year, some Filipino fans flocked to Leila Lopes' (Miss Universe 2011) IG account and called her the n-word just because of a comment she left on a post about Celeste Cortesi's outfit. The Filipinos did not like it and it got out of hand and attacked Leila in an extremely offensive level.

Look, I'm not trying to single out Filipino fans here. We are one of the best fans, but just like a double-edged sword, we can be one of the worst and most hostile fans as well. Indonesian fans, the Latinos, Americans, and all fans across nations aren't exempted in this ordeal. We all have to learn to show humility despite the great achievements we have in the world of pageantry.

I read an insider gossip on Instagram that the "fans' behavior" will have to do something on this year's selection of finalists. That countries with hostile fans like Ph and Indonesia will learn their lesson the hard way. It happened today! Whether this is true or not, the exclusion of Philippines, Thailand, and Indonesia will serve as a wake up call to their fans to stop the bullying and spreading hate on the ladies. ✨

To win Miss Universe, as they say, is a destiny, but without hardwork, perseverance, and a well thought of game plan, things could play out differently for even a pageant powerhouse country like the Philippines. Catriona Gray, our very own Miss Universe 2018, remains to be the gold standard that our country had ever sent to the Miss Universe stage. From the styling, wardrobe, backstory, advocacy, communication skills, prelims and finals performance, she had checked all the boxes and aced all the rounds. No "know-when-to-peak." She has always been on top of her game even up to this day.

This is all I can say. We should still be proud of Celeste. Deep inside, I know she deserve at least a Top 16 placement. And congratulations to R'Bonney Gabriel of USA, our Miss Universe 2022! Well-deserved!

See you next year! ✨

#MissUniverse #MissUniverse2022 #CelesteCortesi #CatrionaGray #MUPh
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby jhunz23 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:51 pm

UNSOLICITED ADVICE FOR MUPH ORG. JOINING Miss Universe 2023:
1. When it comes to GOWN SELECTION, invite ALL PH designers to submit gowns for selection (esp. those who know what looks good on stage, hello Rian, Louie, Mak, Val, etc.). Then select the best one.
FORGET previous grudges, padrino system, business favors, and org. favoritism. Do not alienate the local team who made the candidate win. DO IT FOR PH.
2. DO NOT CHANGE THE CANDIDATE. Rabiya, Bea, Celeste lost the sassiness and alpha demeanor they showed during MUPH. Their strong pasarela and stage presence were not evident anymore in the Miss Universe stage. They blended in Miss Universe, did not stand out. There is difference between enhancing vs. changing.
3. For the national costume, same as no. 1 invite contributors for selection. We see lots of better costumes in our local pageants. Why can't we see them in the Miss Universe stage? Again, FORGET previous grudges, padrino system, business favors, and org. favoritism. DO IT FOR PH.
3. Of course advocacy and communication skills are important, but the three items above will make an impact and will surely lock in better scores for EG and Swimsuit and will contribute to overall impression of our candidate.
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby deltaguy » Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:06 pm

Hi jonas, your karma is here
AN ERECT PENIS DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONSCIENCE



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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby soledad » Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:58 pm

jhunz23 wrote:
Nakita ko lang

“ Dear Jonas Gaffud,

Hindi Effective kay Celeste Cortesi ang Stategy niyong
"know when to peak" panahon pa yan ni Shamcey Supsup
Kakahold back niyo sa prelims at best dress for finals tuloy unplaced ang Miss Universe Philippines. Maganda naman pamamalakad niyo lalo ang Trainings kaso iba na kasi ang Criteria ng Miss Universe lalo at 50% ang Interiew.

Di pa ba kayo natuto sa pagbackout ni Catriona Gray sa camp ninyo kasi kayo lagi nasusunod, halos gawin niyo nga siyang Megan Bata 2.0, bakit di niyo gayahin ang strategy niya since siya ang pamantayan.

Wala talaga sa judges ang problema✔️✔️✔️”


Yung strategy ba nila amag na hahaha 10 years ago pa outdated na hehe
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby hello » Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:55 pm

jhunz23 wrote:
Celeste did not make it to Top 16 and I probably know the reason why.

Prior to this day's coronation day, I've been following pageant pages on Instagram like I used to since 2016. These pageant pages get the latest insider tips from both local and international pageant scenes including the Super Bowl of all pageants, Miss Universe. Just like you, I'm surprised as well that Philippines did not make it to the semifinals, but this post is intended to shed light on the possible reasons this happened.

1. This edition of Miss Universe placed utmost importance on the candidate's backstory, advocacy, and communication skills. The new owner of MUO, Anne JKN, a Thai business mogul, emphasized from the very start that they are looking for a transformational leader. Someone with a story to tell the world, someone who has a leadership and transformational journey in her life comparable to that of Bea Luigi's stint last year. Did Celeste fall short of this aspect knowing that she had a massive improvement from her Miss Earth stint to Miss Universe? I honestly don't think so, but I believe the other ladies might have more appealing stories to tell that the judges find interesting. Also, the closed door interview surely have played a big part on their criteria. ✨

2. The never-ending "KNOW WHEN TO PEAK" narrative. As Shamcey Supsup would always say, "Know when to peak." C'mon Shamcey, that was 2011, more than a decade ago! The MUPh organization has been stuck in this strategy and never listened to fans and avid supporters of our queens. Many fans and pageant analysts were a bit underwhelmed with Celeste's prelims performace (swimsuit and evening gown, not to mention the underwhelming register of the gown during the telecast). A lot of us noticed Celeste holding back with her performance because we know she can do better than smiling all throughout her ramp walk. Staying true to "know when to peak" strategy, she held back and supposedly saved her best performance for the finals. But now, will she able to do it? She missed the chance.

Know-when-to-peak is already an outdated pageant game plan that it will no longer work in today's competition. In a sea of Latinas with great showmanship and impeccable pasarelas (ramp walk), there's no room for a lady to hold back when you are given the chance to perform. Catriona, during her time, did not even blink an eye and gave her competitors a run for their money. Every day for her is peak time, no hold backs, From Day 1, as soon as Catriona arrived in Thailand, she was just there to claim her crown. No one came close. ✨

3. A slap to bully pageant fans. Oh, Filipinos know this very well. We are everywhere, Facebook, Twitter, Tiktok, Instagram. There are always peenoise who throw hate on other ladies. Remember Canada's Nova Stevens during Miss Universe 2020? Some peenoise called her the n-word. Just this year, some Filipino fans flocked to Leila Lopes' (Miss Universe 2011) IG account and called her the n-word just because of a comment she left on a post about Celeste Cortesi's outfit. The Filipinos did not like it and it got out of hand and attacked Leila in an extremely offensive level.

Look, I'm not trying to single out Filipino fans here. We are one of the best fans, but just like a double-edged sword, we can be one of the worst and most hostile fans as well. Indonesian fans, the Latinos, Americans, and all fans across nations aren't exempted in this ordeal. We all have to learn to show humility despite the great achievements we have in the world of pageantry.

I read an insider gossip on Instagram that the "fans' behavior" will have to do something on this year's selection of finalists. That countries with hostile fans like Ph and Indonesia will learn their lesson the hard way. It happened today! Whether this is true or not, the exclusion of Philippines, Thailand, and Indonesia will serve as a wake up call to their fans to stop the bullying and spreading hate on the ladies. ✨

To win Miss Universe, as they say, is a destiny, but without hardwork, perseverance, and a well thought of game plan, things could play out differently for even a pageant powerhouse country like the Philippines. Catriona Gray, our very own Miss Universe 2018, remains to be the gold standard that our country had ever sent to the Miss Universe stage. From the styling, wardrobe, backstory, advocacy, communication skills, prelims and finals performance, she had checked all the boxes and aced all the rounds. No "know-when-to-peak." She has always been on top of her game even up to this day.

This is all I can say. We should still be proud of Celeste. Deep inside, I know she deserve at least a Top 16 placement. And congratulations to R'Bonney Gabriel of USA, our Miss Universe 2022! Well-deserved!

See you next year! ✨

#MissUniverse #MissUniverse2022 #CelesteCortesi #CatrionaGray #MUPh


This is the best post i have read regarding this issue! Wow! We have the same sentiments based on my comments in various posts but you just made it far, far better! Hehe
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby hello » Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:03 pm

jhunz23 wrote:
UNSOLICITED ADVICE FOR MUPH ORG. JOINING Miss Universe 2023:
1. When it comes to GOWN SELECTION, invite ALL PH designers to submit gowns for selection (esp. those who know what looks good on stage, hello Rian, Louie, Mak, Val, etc.). Then select the best one.
FORGET previous grudges, padrino system, business favors, and org. favoritism. Do not alienate the local team who made the candidate win. DO IT FOR PH.
2. DO NOT CHANGE THE CANDIDATE. Rabiya, Bea, Celeste lost the sassiness and alpha demeanor they showed during MUPH. Their strong pasarela and stage presence were not evident anymore in the Miss Universe stage. They blended in Miss Universe, did not stand out. There is difference between enhancing vs. changing.
3. For the national costume, same as no. 1 invite contributors for selection. We see lots of better costumes in our local pageants. Why can't we see them in the Miss Universe stage? Again, FORGET previous grudges, padrino system, business favors, and org. favoritism. DO IT FOR PH.
3. Of course advocacy and communication skills are important, but the three items above will make an impact and will surely lock in better scores for EG and Swimsuit and will contribute to overall impression of our candidate.


Again, i agree except for the National Costume. It doesn't have any bearing on the results. People forget about the national costume when girls are competing already. The judges will not look at this - it's only for us, fans. I would rather have a top 16 slot instead of a Best in National Costume award
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby kurtij » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:11 pm

jhunz23 wrote:
UNSOLICITED ADVICE FOR MUPH ORG. JOINING Miss Universe 2023:
1. When it comes to GOWN SELECTION, invite ALL PH designers to submit gowns for selection (esp. those who know what looks good on stage, hello Rian, Louie, Mak, Val, etc.). Then select the best one.
FORGET previous grudges, padrino system, business favors, and org. favoritism. Do not alienate the local team who made the candidate win. DO IT FOR PH.
2. DO NOT CHANGE THE CANDIDATE. Rabiya, Bea, Celeste lost the sassiness and alpha demeanor they showed during MUPH. Their strong pasarela and stage presence were not evident anymore in the Miss Universe stage. They blended in Miss Universe, did not stand out. There is difference between enhancing vs. changing.
3. For the national costume, same as no. 1 invite contributors for selection. We see lots of better costumes in our local pageants. Why can't we see them in the Miss Universe stage? Again, FORGET previous grudges, padrino system, business favors, and org. favoritism. DO IT FOR PH.
3. Of course advocacy and communication skills are important, but the three items above will make an impact and will surely lock in better scores for EG and Swimsuit and will contribute to overall impression of our candidate.


NO TO INVITE ALL DESIGNERS.

THIS WAS ALREADY DONE DURING RABIYA'S TIME AND IT WASN'T GOOD.
ALL THAT THEY POST WAS ABOUT THE DRESS AND WHO CREATED IT.

WORKING WITH ONE DESIGNER WORKS BETTER.
THE DESIGNER WOULD UNDERSTAND THE REQUIREMENTS AND NEEDS OF THE REPRESENTATIVE. SEE CATRIONA AND MAK TUMANG TANDEMN. THEY MAINTAINED THE COORDINATIONS.

WORKING WITH MANY DESIGNERS WILL BE VERY TIME CONSUMING.
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby pingmeup » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:41 pm

also. IF theres already an assigned gown or set of outfits for the representative, DO NOT CHANGE IT! Gago, bat nag last minute change? because vietnam has a buitterfly theme?

so tayo mag adjust?

and agree ako sa no micromanaging and let the representative's original team manage. resources lang dapat provide nyo.
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Postby Ian Sebastin » Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:01 am

The delusion continues. You all just cannot handle loss very well, can you? Stop pointing fingers and blaming everyone. Celestina Flopteo did not place because she flopped. It was not the result of her team or anyone else but herself.

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Postby alainclintmorales » Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:05 am

I think she didn’t do good at the close door interview.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:40 am


You guys think a Jonas Gaffud will adhere to all that? As it is, was and will be Jonas encapsulates himself in a cocoon and only listens or talks to those within his clique. Face-to-face? None of that will happen .. all effort, wasted.
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Postby poker_man » Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:24 am

I don't really see Celeste doing well in the closed door interview against the girls who placed. She was a model and her experiences revolved around her trying to make a career in the Philippines.
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby loveme4ever » Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:36 am

Tell Jonas:

Enough of the pa-sweet, demure and tame personality and so-so perfomance at gown sa prelims! Tapos maging fierce lang sa finals at isuot ang magandang gown! Guess what? It is not working anymore!

Latinas always have the best strategy and they always stick to this strategy every year! All they do is perform and give their all in the prelims! No wonder why they always dominate the finals! Some of them even have the same prelims and finals styling and gown.

Ang MUP naman eh ibang styling at gown sa prelims na usually eh simple lang tapos pasavouge sa finals! Pero this time hindi nag-work and I am sure na it’s never gonna work anymore. Dapat sa prelims pa lang eh pasavouge na agad!

Enough of the peak at the right time! ~X(
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Postby Chupando's Angels » Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:09 am

Hoy Gafud, magpa interview ka na kay Karen Davila at i explain mo yang kapalpakan niyo sa Prelim. Aba, aba, abahhhh 7 months ang time na hawak niyo to train her pero wiz pumasok si Celeste sa top 16.

Cge, andyan na tayo na may halong political dahil imbyerna sa pinoy ang thai at thai yung bagong may ari na mukhang babae pero mas boses lalake pa dun sa mga kargador sa divisoria.

Pero bakit tinalo pa si Celeste nung 2 negrang chaka at ni canada at laos na parehong ampaw ang pagmumukha?

At hindi rin pwede isisi dun sa tattoo sa gilid ng kipay ni miss filipins dahil pwede niyo naman tabunan ng make up pero wiz niyo ginawa.

Oo, marunong ng mag ingles si Cortesi pero bakit hindi niyo hinasa na medyo lumambot yung diction.

At yung boyfren bakit parang asong nakabuntot kay celeste?

Yung gown, bakit CHAKA? Wala ka bang mata ?

Wala talagang ibang sisisihin dito kundi ikaw lang, sinayang mo ang 12 year streak! Kaya Kung di mo kaya eh IBALIK MO NA YAN KAY MADAM ESTELLA, now nah!!!
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby jhunz23 » Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:10 am

Tita Lavinia:

Sleep can do wonders for the muddled brain. Before we shift our focus on our beautiful new Miss Universe Rbonney Gabriel, let's decode what went wrong because I know you're waiting for me to snap out of my nap.
This will be painful. This will be frank. Those quick enough will probably screenshot this and cascade it all over TikTok or Facebook and it will further vilify me as someone whose sole purpose is to drag the org but honestly at this point - kevs. I'd rather you guys toughen up and face this head on.

STORY & DOSSIER

We knew of this girl from 2018 and she has quite an interesting past. Unfortunately a lot of those actions and incidents have receipts. The organization swept those under the rug rather than use those receipts to their advantage.
They coached the girl into pushing for authenticity and relatability without being specific with how she turned her life around to become calmer, centered and more grounded.
Her life story wasn't organically highlighted or discussed as it was reduced to a mere content for the org's YouTube channel making it feel manufactured.

PREP TIME

They had 7 to 8 months for planning. I'm sure they did the all the programs. Our girl definitely took pasarela, a and a and other classes I don't doubt that but the actual planning for wardrobe, concepts and the visual aspects of the competition days before the competition honestly brings to surface the very question of: WHAT THE HECK WERE THEY DOING THIS WHOLE TIME?
Were they overwhelmed with choices? Did they think they could just wing it?

SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE

Both Celeste and the org missed the opportunity to utilize this powerful tool.
Celeste focused on posting photoshoots and endorsements, the organization failed to highlight her social work and charities heavily. They had a few entries on this sandwiched between intimidating graphics but her social casuses seemed like an afterthought in terms of somed presence.
Celeste could have proactively utilized her large following to let people in and rally towards her causes by being more interactive.
Her charities were reduced to footnotes in both their carefully curated pages.

ADVOCACY

Celeste inherited her advocacy from the org to the point of going to Marawi. Commendable actions yes but seemingly seasonal and driven towards an exchange of relief goods for publicity and handprints.
After winning the title, we didn't hear about the other things she was doing.
According to a Manila Bulletin article "The Filipino-Italian model and PLDT Home ambassador strongly advocates women's education, alongside protecting and preserving the country's indigenous people and culture." - where's this highlight on the indigenous people? It's nowhere near their narrative.
Did the organization help bring her to remote tribal communities? Were there features on young women pursuing their education despite difficult situations?
A hard pill to swallow but the advocacy aspect is watered down.

STYLE

I absolutely loved this fresh styling direction from a
Miss Universe candidate. The looks are straight out of a posh fashion magazine BUT
She was presented more like a CHIC EUROPEAN rather than a simple FILIPINA.

Her Jewelmer pearls could have given her more of a Filipina identity but they used the jewelry pieces sparingly. I understand the direction away Cat's Filipiniana heavy wardrobe but couldn't they put Celeste in at least one Vania Romoff camisa?
She maintained an untouchably chic style throughout the competition that didn't help her image as someone reserved, distant and in some instances - cold
Sometimes too much high fashion is well ... too high to reach.
Even coming out in no makeup in sweats and hoodie was so sensationalized it became a gimmick.
Celebrated for its simplicity in concept yes but sadly gimmicky.

VISIBILITY

Celeste could not be accessed. Her journey was not through her own documentation. We missed her voice and eyes.

We saw her in other people's feed and stories. She didn't bother featuring others. We had no idea if she was having fun or if she was down. Almost all her activity after winning were more visible in the Communications Manager's pages rather than her own or the organization's.
Photos and videos are always hard to crop or repost as she's always surrounded or sandwiched.

SCRUBBING

After winning MUPH, Celeste (based on all those Camina con carne episodes) underwent rigorous training.
Q and A ok give. Her improvement was immense. But her pasarela for example even her styling was so far from the KF hip sway and The Camp's swagger.
They scrubbed her of her real personality. Her pasarela at prelims even that annoying hand placement with the pinkie sticking out was so 2012 that we saw a slower, more feminine Celeste as if she were competing for MI.
There was nothing wrong with how she moved during the nationals. Why did she have to fit the mould? Back in the day they used to have names for walks because they differed. A cobra walk was different from a tanim bala walk but from Rabiya to Celeste it seemed to be just note.
Why a long feature on this? Well because you have to give it you all and not hold back at prelims.
The iconic slow-mo turn happened during prelims.
Come finals Cationa was the biggest name in universal pageantry.

CAMPAIGN

The org relied heavily on Celeste's faultless face. They didn't bother campaigning for votes and left the vloggers and admins to do the job. Celeste did not campaign at all.
They were COMPLACENT because they knew she could get in with just her face.
Votes are crucial now that we've given out our secrets and have helped neighbors catch up.

RAMPA

Call me nega, call me mema, but the rampa rampa DIC NOT HELP HER CAMPAIGN.
It simply isn't aligned with what they're peddling. How can you be authentic and relatable when you're dipped in luxury brands, walking along Rodeo Drive with a full entourage and their personal agenda?
A super short skirt triggered the overly passionate fans to wage war and bully a former Miss Universe W
Why do they keep on doing this when they're in the
US? Who's going to tell them it's cringey?

PADRINO SYSTEM

Yeah. I said it. Bless Oliver Tolentino for his well malasakit for a kababayan but he shouldn't have been in a position of remaking a costume or sewing a gown in just days.
Designers such as Michael Leva and Anthony Ramirez even Glade Echavarre have been posting photos left and right. They're no need to elaborate why.

No YT Live today because I am honestly groggy from the medicines I took

IVORY TOWER

Alienating the fans is one of this org's strongest suit.
The exclusivity is becoming unappealing. I say becoming because before their exclusivity was deemed as a form of security against those who just wanted to exploit and test our candidate.
Key people can't be tagged, they're almost always defensive with an arrogant air around them. It must be all that money and privilege and champagne and first class olabe rides. Even the vloggers and personalities around them have the same demeanor remember that group comprised of pageant fans, a designer and a sponsor who so bodly criticized candidates? It trickles down to representatives who cease saying hello and thank you to ardent fans.
PR skills are always welcome.

INTERACTION

There have been swirling news around that social media behaviors are being observed more closely that's why the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam didn't get in.
You know what would have given that caution more teeth?

Had the organization been more proactive in reminding its reach to stay calm and carry on on social media, this could have made the baby bra warriors go easy. If I say these things and remind people to be kinder I am 100% sure that narrative would change on TikTok and FB.

HUMBLE PIE

One commenter in my LIVE chat brought up the idea that the org was hit with the dreaded EL TOCUYO with their most well rounded and we'll received candidate.
OUCH. I HOPE THEY LEARN FROM THIS AND NOT LAY THE BLAME ON THE GIRL WHO SEEMS TO HAVE REUNITED WITH HER ORIGINAL TEAM

LAST

Celeste Cortesi has now become my favorite representative under this new management. I firmly believe she had a shot to the top. I am saddened that of all our girls from the past 12 years, she would end this way. I did not expect this ending from someone we genuinely supported. She endeared herself to us even with her limited interactions with her fans.
We recogized her strength and her potential for the global brand.

Plans may have gone smoothly but it was Celeste herself who said that to be Miss Universe is destiny.
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby Polla » Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:57 pm

radagasdas wrote:Huling halakhak ni Madame Stella Marquez de Araneta =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) maganda na nga yung naging momentum ng Pilipinas, kaso pinipilit nyo ibigay sa grupo ni Jonas at Shamcey then after 3 years, naligwak si Philippines sa wakas sa world stage. =;)) =;)) =;)) parang malas ang 13th year streak. Unlike the list below -

First, Venezuela in its 13th year streak in 1995 they placed Top 6

Second, USA in its 1st 13th year streak in 1970, they got 1st Runner Up.

USA's 2nd set of its 13th year streak in 1989, they won the 2nd Runner Up.

Let me congratulate Laos for placing the Top 16 at Miss Universe 2022, and also Top 8 at Miss International 2017 since Laos officially join the world's pageantry in 2017. :=p :!! =D> =D> The best placements so far at the 2 biggest pageants in the world. :7 :7 :7


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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby jhunz23 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:49 am

Polla wrote:
radagasdas wrote:Huling halakhak ni Madame Stella Marquez de Araneta =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) maganda na nga yung naging momentum ng Pilipinas, kaso pinipilit nyo ibigay sa grupo ni Jonas at Shamcey then after 3 years, naligwak si Philippines sa wakas sa world stage. =;)) =;)) =;)) parang malas ang 13th year streak. Unlike the list below -

First, Venezuela in its 13th year streak in 1995 they placed Top 6

Second, USA in its 1st 13th year streak in 1970, they got 1st Runner Up.

USA's 2nd set of its 13th year streak in 1989, they won the 2nd Runner Up.

Let me congratulate Laos for placing the Top 16 at Miss Universe 2022, and also Top 8 at Miss International 2017 since Laos officially join the world's pageantry in 2017. :=p :!! =D> =D> The best placements so far at the 2 biggest pageants in the world. :7 :7 :7


Sa Tingin ko si Galema talaga ang may balak mapasakamay niya ang franchise... Front nya lang si Madam Shamcey.... EME


Chrue ka dyan! Obvious na obvious naman
Jonas is really calling the shots!
Ang hirap lang, talagang minomonopolize nya ang pag train sa MUPH.
Di nya alam, naungusan na sya ng ibang teams in terms of creativity, passion and strategy!
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Re: Face to Face with Jonas. Now na!

Postby Pukeemu Ruang » Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:57 am

Nexts years Thailand will wins crown. Felepins starts now practice more clapping. :D/ :D/ :D/ :D/ :D/ >:)

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