Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

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Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:57 am

    

The infamous walkout by the losing candidates against Mariam Habach during the crowning moment at Miss Venezuela 2015, it was reflected on Mariam's performance at Miss Universe 2016 where she ended up as clapper despite her stellar performance in the preliminary competition. And even worse, one of the girls who walked out during the crowning moment named Valeria Vespoli finished 1st Runner Up at Miss Supranational 2016 and surpassed the international placement against Jessica Duarte (MI 2016-clapper) and Andrea Rosales (ME 2015-Top 8 ).

Then the following edition, Keysi won Miss Venezuela 2016 without any walkout incident by the losing candidates against her and competed at Miss Universe 2017. When she failed to secure Top 4 slots in the Americas group, I felt this was the brink of a back to back clapping streak of Venezuela at Miss Universe since 1974-1975 but Keysi was selected as one of the 4 delegates as part of wildcard. Keysi proved to the preliminary judges wrong and finished in the Top 5 at Miss Universe 2017.

In your opinion, why do you think Mariam Habach clapped while her successor Keysi Sayago placed?


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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby esperasave » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:10 pm

The front runner doesn't win in the Philippines even to be called in the semis. Only the dark horses do. Subsequently, Mariam received numerous special awards from the sponsors during the prepageant activities but none from eventual Miss Universe Winner in 2016, Miss France Iris M. However, The Philippines being the Host Country for 3 different occasions have tried hard to elevate The Front Runners with media mileage, audience cheers, special awards etc so that they could be noticed by the international judges however, none of it worked.
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby lingintexas » Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:25 am

esperasave wrote:The front runner doesn't win in the Philippines even to be called in the semis. Only the dark horses do. Subsequently, Mariam received numerous special awards from the sponsors during the prepageant activities but none from eventual Miss Universe Winner in 2016, Miss France Iris M. However, The Philippines being the Host Country for 3 different occasions have tried hard to elevate The Front Runners with media mileage, audience cheers, special awards etc so that they could be noticed by the international judges however, none of it worked.


ummm the post is about why one Miss Venezuela placed and the other didn`t how the hell did you get to the Philippines??????
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby esperasave » Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:44 am

lingintexas wrote:
esperasave wrote:The front runner doesn't win in the Philippines even to be called in the semis. Only the dark horses do. Subsequently, Mariam received numerous special awards from the sponsors during the prepageant activities but none from eventual Miss Universe Winner in 2016, Miss France Iris M. However, The Philippines being the Host Country for 3 different occasions have tried hard to elevate The Front Runners with media mileage, audience cheers, special awards etc so that they could be noticed by the international judges however, none of it worked.


ummm the post is about why one Miss Venezuela placed and the other didn`t how the hell did you get to the Philippines??????


Don't pull my legs. Mariam competed in The Philippines and all front runners while The Philippines was The Host in 3 different occasions, they couldn't break into the semis. But as I have said, we were always planting tremendous cheers very hard for them all throughout the competition to help gain their great momentum and eventually, to be noticed by the judges. We have observed that kind of gestures but it is always falling short. On the other hand, IF YOU DON'T LOVE ME, YOU'LL DEFINITELY GONNA LOSE ME.
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby lingintexas » Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:56 pm

esperasave wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
esperasave wrote:The front runner doesn't win in the Philippines even to be called in the semis. Only the dark horses do. Subsequently, Mariam received numerous special awards from the sponsors during the prepageant activities but none from eventual Miss Universe Winner in 2016, Miss France Iris M. However, The Philippines being the Host Country for 3 different occasions have tried hard to elevate The Front Runners with media mileage, audience cheers, special awards etc so that they could be noticed by the international judges however, none of it worked.


ummm the post is about why one Miss Venezuela placed and the other didn`t how the hell did you get to the Philippines??????


Don't pull my legs. Mariam competed in The Philippines and all front runners while The Philippines was The Host in 3 different occasions, they couldn't break into the semis. But as I have said, we were always planting tremendous cheers very hard for them all throughout the competition to help gain their great momentum and eventually, to be noticed by the judges. We have observed that kind of gestures but it is always falling short. On the other hand, IF YOU DON'T LOVE ME, YOU'LL DEFINITELY GONNA LOSE ME.


Again the post was about why she didn`t place not where Miss Universe was hosted that year.
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby esperasave » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:39 pm

lingintexas wrote:
esperasave wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
esperasave wrote:The front runner doesn't win in the Philippines even to be called in the semis. Only the dark horses do. Subsequently, Mariam received numerous special awards from the sponsors during the prepageant activities but none from eventual Miss Universe Winner in 2016, Miss France Iris M. However, The Philippines being the Host Country for 3 different occasions have tried hard to elevate The Front Runners with media mileage, audience cheers, special awards etc so that they could be noticed by the international judges however, none of it worked.


ummm the post is about why one Miss Venezuela placed and the other didn`t how the hell did you get to the Philippines??????


Don't pull my legs. Mariam competed in The Philippines and all front runners while The Philippines was The Host in 3 different occasions, they couldn't break into the semis. But as I have said, we were always planting tremendous cheers very hard for them all throughout the competition to help gain their great momentum and eventually, to be noticed by the judges. We have observed that kind of gestures but it is always falling short. On the other hand, IF YOU DON'T LOVE ME, YOU'LL DEFINITELY GONNA LOSE ME.


Again the post was about why she didn`t place not where Miss Universe was hosted that year.


You always keep pulling my legs. I said, all front runners will not be called even to the semis if The Philippines is The Host Country. It's been like that since The Philippines Hosted 3 times already.
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby elio » Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:38 pm

Keysi seems nice and sweet to me,mariam does' nt have sweetness and kind aura in her,but her body is amazing.
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby elio » Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:40 pm

Keysi seems nice and sweet to me,mariam does' nt have sweetness and kind aura in her,but her body is amazing.
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby esperasave » Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:27 am

elio wrote:Keysi seems nice and sweet to me,mariam does' nt have sweetness and kind aura in her,but her body is amazing.


Keysi will be called even in The Philippines as host country. She's not gonna be a front runner but a dark horse. Only dark horses would be uprooted to the semis and eventually be a winner.
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby aldoteng » Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:53 am

I think Mariam has a face few find attractive, although it is always surprising when a Venezuelan claps, especially after that gown and twirl. Mariam's body actually isnt outstanding imho, she is just lean.

Keysi I think looks really appealing with her nude lipstick, and her physique looks fitter with some definition... and that tan really goes well with her ethnic identity. The judges probably favoured all these in 2017.
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby dreamliner » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:48 pm

She was unplaced in Miss Universe 2016 because shes was dry, mediocre hairstyle, unconventional beauty. She should have never won Miss Venezuela Universo in the first place. Venezuela has a shortage of beautiful women that time lol
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby ajsy0203 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:32 pm

dreamliner wrote:She was unplaced in Miss Universe 2016 because shes was dry, mediocre hairstyle, unconventional beauty. She should have never won Miss Venezuela Universo in the first place. Venezuela has a shortage of beautiful women that time lol


How about Keysi?
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby lingintexas » Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:19 pm

dreamliner wrote:She was unplaced in Miss Universe 2016 because shes was dry, mediocre hairstyle, unconventional beauty. She should have never won Miss Venezuela Universo in the first place. Venezuela has a shortage of beautiful women that time lol


Ven never has a shortage of beautiful women. Ozamel chose wrong that year that`s all.
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby ManMeat » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:14 am

Simple.
Mariam was arrogant.
MUO knew it’s gonna be trouble if she wins Miss Universe
MUO is tired of bitchy ass Latina winners
They want humble girls now unlike Trump era
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby rrhotj2022 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:06 am

There was an interview with one of the judges i think it was Francine Lefrak who answered that. I forgot it all but it has something to do with what they saw in her during the closed door interviews. I was shocked that a judge would be interviewed about that on why a candidate did not make it but Francine was game on. I could not find that video anymore but in a previous thread before, that i dont remember anymore and i dont know how to retrieve, there was a video of it on why miss venezuela did not make it. A candidate does not make it for no reason. There are judges. And one thing is clear. WE ARE NOT THE JUDGES, they are! so we can only speculate but it is not up to us on who makes it or does not make it.
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Re: Why Mariam Habach clapped, Keysi Sayago placed?

Postby RainBernardi » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:21 am

ManMeat wrote:Simple.
Mariam was arrogant.
MUO knew it’s gonna be trouble if she wins Miss Universe
MUO is tired of bitchy ass Latina winners
They want humble girls now unlike Trump era


i think this might be the very reason she did not make it.
As I remember since IMG took over, they also work on behind the scenes of watching out for the diva and those the worst attitude.
Remember 2018, when colombia usa and au talked about how Vietnam communicates they mocked her. lucky that USA and Au made it to top 20 but colombia, she was left out.
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