Holding pageant this late in the game

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Holding pageant this late in the game

Postby JoelR » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:08 am

    

I started this conversation in the Jamaica thread but want to continue it here. So, I started that holding a pageant this late in the game is very pointless as the girls have little to no time to FULLY prepare for Universe. Something that is stolen from them is getting to wear the dress of their dream. A custom dress is out of the question as that requires to first find a designer that is available, then getting to take to them to find a design and getting the right fabric and getting it quick then the putting it together and fittings. Very impossible. Finding a dress in a store, you get what you get. You won't be able to order a dress from a store in a different color because that takes weeks and alterations will have to be done.


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Re: Holding pageant this late in the game

Postby JoelR » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:16 am

I also said I am disappointed in the top 5 countries that haven't crowned a girl yet. They will have all eyes on them and need a strong girl to impress. How ever my biggest disappointment is with Miss USA. The biggest powerhouse, the one that always has all eyes on them. I know Crystal took over this year and don't know what went on behind the scenes but in my honest opinion, she could've asked her pageant sisters for ideas. I personally would've brought back past years class. They could've said it was a special edition of Miss USA called Rematch. Something like that. And the girls that were crowned held off for next year. I think if prompted correctly, the network would've loved it and the audiences as well.
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Re: Holding pageant this late in the game

Postby Virginia Dalisay » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:25 am

They have no choice bcoz of the pandemic. I think it's better to be late than never.
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Re: Holding pageant this late in the game

Postby JoelR » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:36 am

Virginia Dalisay wrote:They have no choice bcoz of the pandemic. I thinks it's better to be late than never.


yes, this is a mess because of the pandemic but look at Mexico, they've had a title holder for a while. You can only use the pandemic for so much. Better late than never? So it's ok for Miss USA to only have a few days before Universe? Everyone has their opinion but we can all agree after competing for two weeks and then being sent to complete again for a few weeks is very overwhelming and will have a disadvantage compared to other girls who had time to not only rest but prepare. I am not trying to start an argument but it is unfair for these girls to be sent to only struggle.
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Re: Holding pageant this late in the game

Postby XAMURAI » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:09 am

It's not really a big deal.

Back in the 1990s, the Miss Universe pageant was being held in May. Most of the national pageants were being held between January to March of the year of the pageant. Yet, we had some of the most memorable pageant winners during those years, with several upset wins, runaway winners and victories from behind! It really depends on how you would view it. Holding pageant this late in the game is not a disadvantage.
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Re: Holding pageant this late in the game

Postby ajsy0203 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:59 am

JoelR wrote:
Virginia Dalisay wrote:They have no choice bcoz of the pandemic. I thinks it's better to be late than never.


yes, this is a mess because of the pandemic but look at Mexico, they've had a title holder for a while. You can only use the pandemic for so much. Better late than never? So it's ok for Miss USA to only have a few days before Universe? Everyone has their opinion but we can all agree after competing for two weeks and then being sent to complete again for a few weeks is very overwhelming and will have a disadvantage compared to other girls who had time to not only rest but prepare. I am not trying to start an argument but it is unfair for these girls to be sent to only struggle.


In the 1950s and early 1960's the winner of Miss USA pageant went straight to compete at Miss Universe. 3 of them ended up winning the crown at that time.

Miss Universe Great Britain 2020 made it to the semifinals despite she only has less than 2 months to prepare for the 69th Miss Universe.
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Re: Holding pageant this late in the game

Postby ajsy0203 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:10 am

Sharifa won Mutya ng Pilipinas Asia Pacific International 2018 then the following day she started to compete at Miss Asia Pacific International 2018 where she won the crown.

Whoever will win Miss USA 2021, there is a possibility that she will compete at 70th Miss Universe right away if the pageant schedule will not be postponed.
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Re: Holding pageant this late in the game

Postby universus » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:08 pm

Having a late pageant can be beneficial if the girl is already in her best form and found her best styling. That way she will never loose focus on her goal.
Unfortunately since the competitions require girls now to produce digital material, it might be harder for girls to place if they do not have time to prepare these and if they need something to improve on.

The answer to the question is really case to case basis on how girls use their remaining time and how prepared they already are.

The Philippines crowned 2 girls this year with less than 2 weeks preparations and both did well in their international pageant because they were already seasoned veterans in the National and Local Pageant Circuit.
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Re: Holding pageant this late in the game

Postby keyss » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:10 am

I agree, at this point it's moronic. There's only like 2 months left before the girls have to be on the plane headed for PR/Israel. Appoint someone for 2021 and focus on 2022.

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