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On Critics and Hecklers

Postby Prozac » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:33 am

    

Pageantry and American politics are at the forefront lately as fans and supporters had been more vocal in their stand on
issues and their choice of words are becoming more vicious let alone repugnant.

Jihane Almira Chedid failure to make a dent in their quest for Miss Supranational crown was hugging the headlines in the pageant
community, as that didn't sit well with her people when they made a pronouncement that the crown was stolen right under their
noses. Critics in social media reacted and the Third Word War is still going on between Inunesya and the naysayers.

Jonas Gaffud and Shamcey Supsup Lee is also experiencing inflight turbulence with their handling of Miss Universe Philippines,
and sponsors and benefactors making an unseen exodus are fanning the embers of critics' ire to give these two a slap in
the wrist.

Gandhi Fernando also has severed his ties with Andrei Sleigh, and what better to end his friendship with his old mentor than
wash their dirty underwear publicly. The controversy draw more attention as expected and Gandhi gets his worst beating
verbally and in print.

Aside from criticizing, the aggrieved parties can resort to a more outrageous way of airing grievances - and that can be
achieved by way of HECKLING. in real-time the recipient of the Most Heckled award goes to Joe Biden - and this stems from
his latest debacle - when he screwup the American withdrawal from Kabul with his amateurish and so inept manner of execut-
ing the departure.

Is heckling right? Those who interrupted Biden, not surprisingly, are strong critics of his way of handling the Afghan withdrawal.
Those groups maintained that interrupting a speech or any activity Biden is doing - even repeatedly - should be seen as a
protected form of speech. The people are voicing a political view to shame the president for his ineptitude and incompetence
and delivering the message loud and clear showed the gravity of the offense pointed to the president and it falls under the
purview of protected speech.

And so the heckling continued and it was so intense and fierce if the bumbling and bungling Biden is weak he can raise the white
flag and retire for good. But it looked he is not bothered at all. Please watch the videos, and notice the heart-wrenching heckling
he received in sports stadiums across the nation, or wherever he goes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL_swVicPRY
CNN Admits Trump is Running a SHADOW PRESIDENCY!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EH_cKkLhhY
Biden heckled by protesters yelling ‘resign you tyrant!’ on tour of Ida damage in New Jersey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kM2kGrZ_Bo
F*** Joe Biden’! Biden TROLLED and HECKLED Across the Nation!!!

To the beauty queens worldwide, I think heckling the way we see it in these videos is too much. If what we read in print
is hurtful, how much more if the insults hurled at you were done in your presence like the whole stadium gleefully cheer
for your embarrassment and downfall. What a harrowing scenario!


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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby Prozac » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:47 am

A friend contradicts the argument used to allow heckling to continue. He said and I quote: "This behavior is intolerable.
Freedom of speech is among the most fundamental, and among the most cherished, of the bedrock values our nation is
built upon. America deserves a free exchange of ideas. This is non-negotiable. Those who attempt to suppress the rights
of others violate core principles that are the foundation of any community. We cannot and do not allow such behavior."
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby esperasave » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:01 pm

Prozac wrote:A friend contradicts the argument used to allow heckling to continue. He said and I quote: "This behavior is intolerable.
Freedom of speech is among the most fundamental, and among the most cherished, of the bedrock values our nation is
built upon. America deserves a free exchange of ideas. This is non-negotiable. Those who attempt to suppress the rights
of others violate core principles that are the foundation of any community. We cannot and do not allow such behavior."


There's should be no hecklers in a democratic society because it will diminish one's movement or freedom. If there's one, then it's the abuse of the system. As long as we do things accordingly, there should be no hecklers allowed. As you know, in any democracy people can do or say things whether bad or good upon others. But if you feel being violated of your rights, we have the law enforcement and court to decide what's in stored for you. You cannot put the matters into your hands, it's always the court who run the system if ever somethings have been done illegally. As part of democratic process, you can sue as many as you want to others in court. But mostly, if you don't want the hassle of it and you're so smart and intelligent enough, you may want to live a peaceful life with no obstructions or obtrussions.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:28 pm


Not everything that comes out of your mouth is covered by the mantle of the so-called but much abused "freedom of speech". The legal perimeters have to be observed and punitive measures imposed upon those who digress from the legal framework of the law.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby Prozac » Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:39 pm

The videos are painting a grim and ghastly scenario, it is giving me cold shivers and goose pimples. Heckling is
tantamount to public shaming, and I don't have a stomach for it.

I admit I am pro-Trump, but I did not wish anything like that will happen to Biden? And reviewing the videos
again, I have more questions than answers. If we use punitive measures as a deterrent to heckling:
1. how come Biden and the military escorting the president just ignored the insults and the loathsome language
hurled at them and pretended nothing extraordinary happened.
2. And talking about heckling in the sports stadium, If punitive measures can be done, how can they do that
when it involved a capacity-sized crowd, and we are talking about thousands of people and not to mention
that the heckling didn't happen in just one stadium, it happened in a stadium in different states.

Are we just ignoring the fact, that this is the public sentiment from coast to coast, and it needs to be heard?
That they are just tired of the status quo, and witnessing debacle after another fiasco, and change is in order?

I am getting confused now more than ever on who is right? If the president is committing a repetetive blunder
in any policy be it domestic or foreign, is it right for the people to express their dissatisfaction by way of heckling?

As one of them rationalized, "it is better option as it is bloodless attempt compared to the riots, the looting and
the burning in Portland, Chicago and New York.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby Prozac » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:08 am

It looked like we are entering the TWILIGHT ZONE here, and these questions begged for answers.

1. What is the thin line that separates heckling and slander?
2. Is heckling legal, is there a constitutional right to heckle?
3. Was the heckler’s shout protected by freedom of speech? Or was it an unprotected interference
to a gathering or event?
4. Can a police arrest a heckler?
5. Can we draw a line between a speaker’s First Amendment right to speak and the hecklers’ rights to free speech of their own.

Well, it looked like the line and the answer to my questions remains difficult to draw.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby esperasave » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:30 am

Prozac wrote:It looked like we are entering the TWILIGHT ZONE here, and this question begged for answers.

1. What is the thin line that separates heckling and slander?
2. Is heckling legal, is there a constitutional right to heckle?
3. Was the heckler’s shout protected by freedom of speech? Or was it an unprotected interference
to a gathering or event?
4. Can a police arrest a heckler?
5. Can we draw a line between a speaker’s First Amendment right to speak and the hecklers’ rights to free speech of their own.

Well, it looked like the line and the answer to my questions remains difficult to draw.


The court will always draw the line for you. They can decide for you.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby esperasave » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:35 am

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Not everything that comes out of your mouth is covered by the mantle of the so-called but much abused "freedom of speech". The legal perimeters have to be observed and punitive measures imposed upon those who digress from the legal framework of the law.


As I have told you before. Make a statement in this forum. This is not an English Literature class where you always expounds your ideas through Shakespeareans poerty or prose with fancy words on it. Use the so called social media lingua or lingo not the words of the past in the 1700s so the netizens can comment or square off any issues you may have to raise. Seeing from your past postings, no one ever touched the comments you are throwing out because your words are too fancy and jargon that the sentences are so tangled up. It's just too hard to uncover or unveil a particular ideas you are trying to impart. It's very Shakespearean in nature but we are not in the English Literature Class where your thread is suppose to be. Meaning, all your posts are out of place.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby beautywatchnyc » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:35 am



eto, binababoy na naman ng pagong ung thread na hindi sya ang me akda. cge feelingera, iyak pa. sinusundan mo talaga post ko, makakabuti sa u yan. ba't hindi mo na lang balik balikan yung kikitain mo tuwing lingo at ikakalat ulit dito? o ayan pinansin na kita ulit!
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby esperasave » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:00 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:

eto, binababoy na naman ng pagong ung thread na hindi sya ang me akda. cge feelingera, iyak pa. sinusundan mo talaga post ko, makakabuti sa u yan. ba't hindi mo na lang balik balikan yung kikitain mo tuwing lingo at ikakalat ulit dito? o ayan pinansin na kita ulit!


One word is enough for a wise man. You keep repeating about the comment which had been long gone.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby beautywatchnyc » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:39 pm

esperasave wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:

eto, binababoy na naman ng pagong ung thread na hindi sya ang me akda. cge feelingera, iyak pa. sinusundan mo talaga post ko, makakabuti sa u yan. ba't hindi mo na lang balik balikan yung kikitain mo tuwing lingo at ikakalat ulit dito? o ayan pinansin na kita ulit!


One word is enough for a wise man. You keep repeating about the comment which had been long gone.


Buti di mo idinaan sa dementia. Nah, that faux pas was too embarrassing in the minds of many. It was utterly tactless marami nag react dun di lng ako. Kaya wag umastang hambog because you''re being watched.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby esperasave » Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:59 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:
esperasave wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:

eto, binababoy na naman ng pagong ung thread na hindi sya ang me akda. cge feelingera, iyak pa. sinusundan mo talaga post ko, makakabuti sa u yan. ba't hindi mo na lang balik balikan yung kikitain mo tuwing lingo at ikakalat ulit dito? o ayan pinansin na kita ulit!


One word is enough for a wise man. You keep repeating about the comment which had been long gone.


Buti di mo idinaan sa dementia. Nah, that faux pas was too embarrassing in the minds of many. It was utterly tactless marami nag react dun di lng ako. Kaya wag umastang hambog because you''re being watched.


Why you always remember that when nobody cares about the finances of people? It was so long ago and you haven't resolved it yet. You're the only person that always keep coming back for a thing that is so irrelevant for all people. It's only you. What if I say that I'm earning more than last year. Will it matter to you forever?
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby Beta » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:09 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:

eto, binababoy na naman ng pagong ung thread na hindi sya ang me akda. cge feelingera, iyak pa. sinusundan mo talaga post ko, makakabuti sa u yan. ba't hindi mo na lang balik balikan yung kikitain mo tuwing lingo at ikakalat ulit dito? o ayan pinansin na kita ulit!


LMAO! love this!!!you crack me up!
don't go changin' tho -- coz I do love your prose!
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby Beta » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:24 pm

Prozac wrote:The videos are painting a grim and ghastly scenario, it is giving me cold shivers and goose pimples. Heckling is
tantamount to public shaming, and I don't have a stomach for it.

I admit I am pro-Trump, but I did not wish anything like that will happen to Biden? And reviewing the videos
again, I have more questions than answers. If we use punitive measures as a deterrent to heckling:
1. how come Biden and the military escorting the president just ignored the insults and the loathsome language
hurled at them and pretended nothing extraordinary happened.
2. And talking about heckling in the sports stadium, If punitive measures can be done, how can they do that
when it involved a capacity-sized crowd, and we are talking about thousands of people and not to mention
that the heckling didn't happen in just one stadium, it happened in a stadium in different states.

Are we just ignoring the fact, that this is the public sentiment from coast to coast, and it needs to be heard?
That they are just tired of the status quo, and witnessing debacle after another fiasco, and change is in order?

I am getting confused now more than ever on who is right? If the president is committing a repetetive blunder
in any policy be it domestic or foreign, is it right for the people to express their dissatisfaction by way of heckling?

As one of them rationalized, "it is better option as it is bloodless attempt compared to the riots, the looting and
the burning in Portland, Chicago and New York.


Do you ever wonder why there's a disparity between what's really going on and what we see on mainstream media?
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby esperasave » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:46 pm

Beta wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:

eto, binababoy na naman ng pagong ung thread na hindi sya ang me akda. cge feelingera, iyak pa. sinusundan mo talaga post ko, makakabuti sa u yan. ba't hindi mo na lang balik balikan yung kikitain mo tuwing lingo at ikakalat ulit dito? o ayan pinansin na kita ulit!


LMAO! love this!!!you crack me up!
don't go changin' tho -- coz I do love your prose!


His proses are from the Dark Ages. Not unless we are in the English Literature 101 Class. We are already in Peace Time, Modern Times. The fancy words that he often used in this forum is a Dead English Words. Meaning, no one has ever used it any longer but only him in the general populations. Besides, this forum is not about conversations on prose, poetry or sonnet. This is all about making factual statements after the other in simple English terms where everybody in the populations can relate. His style of reasoning which is Shakespearean of 1700s doesn't resonate well to no one that's why nobody ever touched his posts since last year and I believe more beyond in the past. I'm in a medical field and we used the Dead Linggo of Latin and Greek in our profession always but it's not for public consumptions because it cannot connect well to the general populations if we use them alot. It's only for people who have studied medical terms, terminologies and abbreviations mostly offered in Colleges and Universities throughout the world.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby esperasave » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:23 pm

Prozac wrote:It looked like we are entering the TWILIGHT ZONE here, and these questions begged for answers.

1. What is the thin line that separates heckling and slander?
2. Is heckling legal, is there a constitutional right to heckle?
3. Was the heckler’s shout protected by freedom of speech? Or was it an unprotected interference
to a gathering or event?
4. Can a police arrest a heckler?
5. Can we draw a line between a speaker’s First Amendment right to speak and the hecklers’ rights to free speech of their own.

Well, it looked like the line and the answer to my questions remains difficult to draw.


As part of the general public, with the concept of the law, as long as we don't steal, hurt or kill someone, the law should be on our side. On the other hand, the questions you've raised above are not for us. We are not conspiracy theorists or political analysts to explain and make some clarifications on your questions.The problems and its situations above are for a Political Science 101 Class meaning its for Fundamentals in Political Science Class. Subsequently, somebody asked me before what's Nursing 101 is all about when I was still a student. It's actually called Funadamentals in Nursing with its descriptive or generic title. Then when you say a class in Surfing 101, it means to say that the class is about learning surfing in its very Basic aspect.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby Beta » Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:27 pm

esperasave wrote:
Beta wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:

eto, binababoy na naman ng pagong ung thread na hindi sya ang me akda. cge feelingera, iyak pa. sinusundan mo talaga post ko, makakabuti sa u yan. ba't hindi mo na lang balik balikan yung kikitain mo tuwing lingo at ikakalat ulit dito? o ayan pinansin na kita ulit!


LMAO! love this!!!you crack me up!
don't go changin' tho -- coz I do love your prose!


His proses are from the Dark Ages. Not unless we are in the English Literature 101 Class. We are already in Peace Time, Modern Times. The fancy words that he often used in this forum is a Dead English Words. Meaning, no one has ever used it any longer but only him in the general populations. Besides, this forum is not about conversations on prose, poetry or sonnet. This is all about making factual statements after the other in simple English terms where everybody in the populations can relate. His style of reasoning which is Shakespearean of 1700s doesn't resonate well to no one that's why nobody ever touched his posts since last year and I believe more beyond in the past. I'm in a medical field and we used the Dead Linggo of Latin and Greek in our profession always but it's not for public consumptions because it cannot connect well to the general populations if we use them alot. It's only for people who have studied medical terms, terminologies and abbreviations mostly offered in Colleges and Universities throughout the world.


huh?
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby beautywatchnyc » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:18 am

Beta wrote:
esperasave wrote:
Beta wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:

eto, binababoy na naman ng pagong ung thread na hindi sya ang me akda. cge feelingera, iyak pa. sinusundan mo talaga post ko, makakabuti sa u yan. ba't hindi mo na lang balik balikan yung kikitain mo tuwing lingo at ikakalat ulit dito? o ayan pinansin na kita ulit!


LMAO! love this!!!you crack me up!
don't go changin' tho -- coz I do love your prose!


His proses are from the Dark Ages. Not unless we are in the English Literature 101 Class. We are already in Peace Time, Modern Times. The fancy words that he often used in this forum is a Dead English Words. Meaning, no one has ever used it any longer but only him in the general populations. Besides, this forum is not about conversations on prose, poetry or sonnet. This is all about making factual statements after the other in simple English terms where everybody in the populations can relate. His style of reasoning which is Shakespearean of 1700s doesn't resonate well to no one that's why nobody ever touched his posts since last year and I believe more beyond in the past. I'm in a medical field and we used the Dead Linggo of Latin and Greek in our profession always but it's not for public consumptions because it cannot connect well to the general populations if we use them alot. It's only for people who have studied medical terms, terminologies and abbreviations mostly offered in Colleges and Universities throughout the world.


huh?


"proses of the dark ages" daw oh. Ba't pina process at i i spin? Bka pretending to sound like some intellectual, kuno! This whacko doesn't care about finances, yet in shameless arrogance announced his earnings per week in $ units (eh paano pa kaya kng naging £, haha!) when no one was asking nor cared to know. "more earnings this year" sus maryosep, completely clueless si kabayan. Iba dyan mas malaki ang kinikita di nman nag iingay di kailangan ipag yayabang pa. Nursing care kse ang background ngayun lng naka tikim maging dollar earner (okay, fine, we allow the faux pas to pass!) Never mind, fluke is clueless about the tenets of salary, wage and benefits administration in a corporate level. Assumera, umaasta maging teacher kuno and the gall to give instructions when I wasn't asking eh wala ksing matutunan sa insignificant na feelingera madre superiora inferior pa rin as at this writing ang level of thinking. In order to learn and to grow, we should be engaging comments coming from personas who are deemed higher and above us. The trying-hard of this forum -- we dismiss outright as hubris! Mas malawak nman ang panguunawa naten at mas richer sa vocab iwanan na at 'yaan maglupasay ynag ipis sa inis at sa inggit. Look, kahit 'di nman sya ang me akda pilitang hna hijack ang thread para mapansin. His ludicrous statements come from a lesser of mind but he's desperate for us to take a second look. Or, perhaps he might be currently experiencing an early stage of dementia. Problem is not ours, the choice is his'! It isn't late though naawa ako bigla!
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby esperasave » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:16 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
Beta wrote:
esperasave wrote:
Beta wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:

eto, binababoy na naman ng pagong ung thread na hindi sya ang me akda. cge feelingera, iyak pa. sinusundan mo talaga post ko, makakabuti sa u yan. ba't hindi mo na lang balik balikan yung kikitain mo tuwing lingo at ikakalat ulit dito? o ayan pinansin na kita ulit!


LMAO! love this!!!you crack me up!
don't go changin' tho -- coz I do love your prose!


His proses are from the Dark Ages. Not unless we are in the English Literature 101 Class. We are already in Peace Time, Modern Times. The fancy words that he often used in this forum is a Dead English Words. Meaning, no one has ever used it any longer but only him in the general populations. Besides, this forum is not about conversations on prose, poetry or sonnet. This is all about making factual statements after the other in simple English terms where everybody in the populations can relate. His style of reasoning which is Shakespearean of 1700s doesn't resonate well to no one that's why nobody ever touched his posts since last year and I believe more beyond in the past. I'm in a medical field and we used the Dead Linggo of Latin and Greek in our profession always but it's not for public consumptions because it cannot connect well to the general populations if we use them alot. It's only for people who have studied medical terms, terminologies and abbreviations mostly offered in Colleges and Universities throughout the world.


huh?


"proses of the dark ages" daw oh. Ba't pina process at i i spin? Bka pretending to sound like some intellectual, kuno! This whacko doesn't care about finances, yet in shameless arrogance announced his earnings per week in $ units (eh paano pa kaya kng naging £, haha!) when no one was asking nor cared to know. "more earnings this year" sus maryosep, completely clueless si kabayan. Iba dyan mas malaki ang kinikita di nman nag iingay di kailangan ipag yayabang pa. Nursing care kse ang background ngayun lng naka tikim maging dollar earner (okay, fine, we allow the faux pas to pass!) Never mind, fluke is clueless about the tenets of salary, wage and benefits administration in a corporate level. Assumera, umaasta maging teacher kuno and the gall to give instructions when I wasn't asking eh wala ksing matutunan sa insignificant na feelingera madre superiora inferior pa rin as at this writing ang level of thinking. In order to learn and to grow, we should be engaging comments coming from personas who are deemed higher and above us. The trying-hard of this forum -- we dismiss outright as hubris! Mas malawak nman ang panguunawa naten at mas richer sa vocab iwanan na at 'yaan maglupasay ynag ipis sa inis at sa inggit. Look, kahit 'di nman sya ang me akda pilitang hna hijack ang thread para mapansin. His ludicrous statements come from a lesser of mind but he's desperate for us to take a second look. Or, perhaps he might be currently experiencing an early stage of dementia. Problem is not ours, the choice is his'! It isn't late though naawa ako bigla!


You use so much word salad usually being spoken or communicated by schizophrenic persons. That's how schizophrenics communicate around them, understood only by their self because they create their own fantasy world. It's so bothering how you are coming in like that here in Missosology forum. Besides, you're so anal about my earnings and finances although I told you to stop mentioning that because it has been a post so long and only once. You have a short term memory lapses although your long term memory is so vivid and undeterred. It means to say that your life is not balance because you live in the past not moving ahead or forward. Likewise, so people can connect and resonate well with you, start writing in a standard English Words not those fancy vocabularies that are considered dead or Shakespearean in nature. They are considered obsolete by the millennial standards as what we considered our historic time is at this point of our lives. This is precisely the reason why I have to redirect your way of thinking to a normal way because I have experienced in Psyche practice where you can live a meaningful and productive life lesser of anxieties, negativities, toxicities, anger or complaints.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby beautywatchnyc » Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:19 pm


Hurting much, Esperasave? I wasn't talking to you. Si TS at si Beta kausap ko, di ikaw. O ayan, memory lapses lng ba o advanced stage of senility na yan? Halt na sa pa effort magpapansin. You're not worth a grain of salt, you don't impress me kahit anu png sawsaw ulitulitin mo! Declare yourself winner if you want but you haven't scored a point with me. Doon ka maghanap sa mga lesser of mind at ka level mo. 'Wag ako. K, bye.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby Beta » Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:53 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
Hurting much, Esperasave? I wasn't talking to you. Si TS at si Beta kausap ko, di ikaw. O ayan, memory lapses lng ba o advanced stage of senility na yan? Halt na sa pa effort magpapansin. You're not worth a grain of salt, you don't impress me kahit anu png sawsaw ulitulitin mo! Declare yourself winner if you want but you haven't scored a point with me. Doon ka maghanap sa mga lesser of mind at ka level mo. 'Wag ako. K, bye.


I've always appreciated your thoughts beautywatchnyc, especially how you convey them in writing! However, it was also awesome to see this sassy side of you !
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby esperasave » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:06 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
Hurting much, Esperasave? I wasn't talking to you. Si TS at si Beta kausap ko, di ikaw. O ayan, memory lapses lng ba o advanced stage of senility na yan? Halt na sa pa effort magpapansin. You're not worth a grain of salt, you don't impress me kahit anu png sawsaw ulitulitin mo! Declare yourself winner if you want but you haven't scored a point with me. Doon ka maghanap sa mga lesser of mind at ka level mo. 'Wag ako. K, bye.


I would disagree that my mind and thoughts are lesser in nature because I'm a rationale being. I make sure that my thoughts and words in print and oral are appropriate and meaningful to others. However, your acts in this forum are arrogant and condescending. You just speak out of your mind in its ugliness way. I have been in this forum longer than 10 years and I know where you were coming from. But if your habits would change, i would appreciate and be impressed then I'll support you as a person otherwise, see you never.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby Prozac » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:34 am

It is quite ironic that we are talking about criticisms and heckling and how these can affect the person that is the object of ridicule.
We have a good start until this situation came in. Espersave and beautywatchny always react to my thread and I am learning MUCH
from both of them. Even if I don't know these guys, I consider them my thread buddies, and I am getting closer to both. We have good
discussions about anything and there was a very good exchange of ideas and opinions. And this situation came.

Being the thread starter, I feel obligated that I will intervene because I know where this situation is headed. The heated discussion
and the name-calling happened in my watch and in my thread, so I feel the need to act as a middle man, but discretion is the better
part of valor. It's better to take caution than make rush decisions like when I intercede in the fight of my friends when we were still
a child, I ended up having the most blackeye. So I hesitated on this one for fear that the backlash will boomerang on me, not only
coming from the feuding parties but the readers as well.

Just a week ago, I ask Espersave about his opinion on something, and in a jiffy, he can right away come back and shed light on
the matter that boggles me. He sounds like a disciplinarian (in a good way) and when he offers his opinion you could feel the
passion, just like a parent teaching his child how to brush teeth. I ask for a second opinion because I want another person to see
it from another angle and a different perspective and it's all up to me if I will follow the advice or not. It is still me who will
make the ultimate decision.

Beautywatchny if you remember just a week ago I praise how you fashion words into lines and lines into rhymes? And that's the
truth. As a matter of fact, I felt we have the same style of writing. We also have a little scrimmage with what we do with our
writing: Do we write to EXPRESS or do we write to IMPRESS, but that's all water under the bridge now. You know what ... there
are times I caught myself giggling because the way you play with words is like you hit the bullseye, and I appreciate it. If others
thought it is Shakespearean, so be it. It's his opinion and we can't change that. We can't please everybody anyway.

If they observed that nobody is responding to our way of writing because the words are highly charged, the vocabulary has the
hallmark of Thesaurus or highfalutin words are flooding ... making their nose bleed (I borrowed this term from a teleserye- no
offense meant to anybody). But what can we do ... words just came flowing, and if the words sound grandiose, high and mighty,
conceited and ostentatious that earn the disgust of many, they can't fault us for that.

On the other hand, espersave didn't mean anything bad when he was suggesting we have to write as SIMPLE as possible so we
can be understood sans jargon or idioms or any figure of speech. He just came in too strong giving the readers some impression
that it was a little harsh or mean. But I guess he was just acting like a parental figure wanting everything good with his kids.

But personally, if somebody will suggest to me that I will have to change my writing habits and I will stay away from sounding
too presumptuous and pretentious with my lingo and my choice of language, the person doesn't have any iota of idea how
changing me will break me and if that's the case I'd rather leave writing and this forum. And if I opted to stay, nobody has
a clue how hard the work is: changing your original draft from a complex one and break them in and make them simpler so
it is easy to the eyes of the readers.

And in fairness to beautywatchny, one writer I forgot his name said: "there is no right or wrong way of writing in social media
and in forums. Whether you write using simple words or you write sounding too deep or arrogant to some, everybody is
welcome to express his own thoughts and ideas. What is important is that we are communicating, and we are reaching out to
somebody, that's all there is to it.

After this piece, I hope this verbal exchange will stop. Let's bury the hatchet ... forgive and forget ... kiss and makeup...
let bygones be bygones ... smoke the peace-pipe ... hold out the olive branch ... and wipe the slate clean!

There I go again espersave with my idioms. It is almost overkill and you will not love me for using an overdose of it. Ha ...
ha ...ha! You guys don't need to answer this ... THIS THREAD IS CLOSED!
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby esperasave » Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:22 pm

Prozac wrote:It is quite ironic that we are talking about criticisms and heckling and how these can affect the person that is the object of ridicule.
We have a good start until this situation came in. Espersave and beautywatchny always react to my thread and I am learning MUCH
from both of them. Even if I don't know these guys, I consider them my thread buddies, and I am getting closer to both. We have good
discussions about anything and there was a very good exchange of ideas and opinions. And this situation came.

Being the thread starter, I feel obligated that I will intervene because I know where this situation is headed. The heated discussion
and the name-calling happened in my watch and in my thread, so I feel the need to act as a middle man, but discretion is the better
part of valor. It's better to take caution than make rush decisions like when I intercede in the fight of my friends when we were still
a child, I ended up having the most blackeye. So I hesitated on this one for fear that the backlash will boomerang on me, not only
coming from the feuding parties but the readers as well.

Just a week ago, I ask Espersave about his opinion on something, and in a jiffy, he can right away come back and shed light on
the matter that boggles me. He sounds like a disciplinarian (in a good way) and when he offers his opinion you could feel the
passion, just like a parent teaching his child how to brush teeth. I ask for a second opinion because I want another person to see
it from another angle and a different perspective and it's all up to me if I will follow the advice or not. It is still me who will
make the ultimate decision.

Beautywatchny if you remember just a week ago I praise how you fashion words into lines and lines into rhymes? And that's the
truth. As a matter of fact, I felt we have the same style of writing. We also have a little scrimmage with what we do with our
writing: Do we write to EXPRESS or do we write to IMPRESS, but that's all water under the bridge now. You know what ... there
are times I caught myself giggling because the way you play with words is like you hit the bullseye, and I appreciate it. If others
thought it is Shakespearean, so be it. It's his opinion and we can't change that. We can't please everybody anyway.

If they observed that nobody is responding to our way of writing because the words are highly charged, the vocabulary has the
hallmark of Thesaurus or highfalutin words are flooding ... making their nose bleed (I borrowed this term from a teleserye- no
offense meant to anybody). But what can we do ... words just came flowing, and if the words sound grandiose, high and mighty,
conceited and ostentatious that earn the disgust of many, they can't fault us for that.

On the other hand, espersave didn't mean anything bad when he was suggesting we have to write as SIMPLE as possible so we
can be understood sans jargon or idioms or any figure of speech. He just came in too strong giving the readers some impression
that it was a little harsh or mean. But I guess he was just acting like a parental figure wanting everything good with his kids.

But personally, if somebody will suggest to me that I will have to change my writing habits and I will stay away from sounding
too presumptuous and pretentious with my lingo and my choice of language, the person doesn't have any iota of idea how
changing me will break me and if that's the case I'd rather leave writing and this forum. And if I opted to stay, nobody has
a clue how hard the work is: changing your original draft from a complex one and break them in and make them simpler so
it is easy to the eyes of the readers.

And in fairness to beautywatchny, one writer I forgot his name said: "there is no right or wrong way of writing in social media
and in forums. Whether you write using simple words or you write sounding too deep or arrogant to some, everybody is
welcome to express his own thoughts and ideas. What is important is that we are communicating, and we are reaching out to
somebody, that's all there is to it.

After this piece, I hope this verbal exchange will stop. Let's bury the hatchet ... forgive and forget ... kiss and makeup...
let bygones be bygones ... smoke the peace-pipe ... hold out the olive branch ... and wipe the slate clean!

There I go again espersave with my idioms. It is almost overkill and you will not love me for using an overdose of it. Ha ...
ha ...ha! You guys don't need to answer this ... THIS THREAD IS CLOSED!


What's bothering is that when the posts or articles becomes or turning to be like how schiziphrenics sounds like with full of word salads and doesn't even resonate to no one because it's out of this world. Someone is creating a fantasy of his own. And it's time to intervene. On the other hand, if you want to convey messages with highfalutin words with Shakespearean lingo you go back to your English Literature 101 Class or else I will bring up my highfalutin Nursing 101 lingo so we better square off with each other. Our Nursing 101 class is full of Dead Words in Latin and Greek with matching prefixes and suffixes for you to match up the whole year round to work on.
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby beautywatchnyc » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:48 pm


Prozac, your perception of me is not my responsibility. Allow me to put “things” in proper perspective. Re my reply to your post -- my rules apply. The content of what I’m saying -- my call. I don’t I need to prove a thing. I appreciate you for not dictating on how to write my thoughts according to your individual style. After all, we are in a forum. As long as you know what’s inside of you, I think you’re fine. Thank you for not asking the hard hitting questions because you want to sway the bar of readers’ opinion so that you’ll be noticed. You are way up there than most by simply not trying to impress on us that you are an intellectual. And, btw, even if you continue to try to mediate and pacify issues until kingdom come, I do not think that you’ll get anything there. This may seem far from encouraging so I’ll leave this line open-ended. Cheers!
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Re: On Critics and Hecklers

Postby chellomellow » Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:39 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:
Prozac, your perception of me is not my responsibility. Allow me to put “things” in proper perspective. Regarding my reply to your post -- my rules apply. The content of what I’m saying -- my call. I don’t I need to prove a thing. I appreciate you for not dictating on how to write my thoughts according to your individual style. After all, we are in a forum. As long as you know what’s inside of you, I think you’re fine. Thank you for not asking the hard-hitting questions because you want to sway the bar of readers’ opinions so that you’ll be noticed. You are way up there than most by simply not trying to impress on us that you are an intellectual. And, btw, even if you continue to try to mediate and pacify issues until the kingdom come, I do not think that you’ll get anything there. This may seem far from encouraging so I’ll leave this line open-ended. Cheers!


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