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In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia country?

Postby Lapfic » Fri May 24, 2013 3:51 pm

    

Last year, Turkey placed Top 16. But I don't know this is achievement of Europe or Asia.

And I visit the website of US Government. I see this map:

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http://www.state.gov/p/eur/ci/index.htm


Turkey is Euroasian country. However if we mention 2 continents: Europe and Asia, Turkey will be Europe country. (Kazakhstan is also Euroasian country but this country is not appear on this map).

I wonder if MUO admits Turkey is Europe or Asia country.

And I remember that in 2008, there had been a "Best in National Costume" voting on NBC website. Contestants were devided into continent groups. Turkey, Cyprus and Georgia were in Europe group. Kazakhstan was in Asia group.

Therefore now, I can know in MUO's opinion, which countries are Europe countries, and which countries are Asia countries. 8->


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Postby VAYZ GANDA » Fri May 24, 2013 4:03 pm

Turkey is located in Asia geographically, and in Europe politically.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby jokjok56 » Fri May 24, 2013 4:18 pm

turkey is one of the two countries located in two continents geographically and politically...the other one is Russia but the latter if is more politically European since Moscow is in Europe side...with regards to turkey only tiny part is in Europe majority of the country is in Asia. :"> :-*
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby mybadname » Fri May 24, 2013 4:35 pm

Turkey is a country which is both located in Asia and in Europe. The mainland is in Asia while part of it is in Europe. That part is what we call now Istanbul (Constantinople in the ancient world). I believe Turkey is an Asian country since its capital (Ankara) is located in Asia. With regards to Russia - is it also both Asian and European. In fact the big part of Russia is in Asia. However it is more of a European because its capital (Moscow) belongs to Europe. FYI: When Alaska is still part of Russia before it was sold to the US, Russia encompasses three continents - Asia, Europe and North America.
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby Lapfic » Fri May 24, 2013 5:12 pm

jokjok56 wrote:turkey is one of the two countries located in two continents geographically and politically...the other one is Russia but the latter if is more politically European since Moscow is in Europe side...with regards to turkey only tiny part is in Europe majority of the country is in Asia. :"> :-*


mybadname wrote:Turkey is a country which is both located in Asia and in Europe. The mainland is in Asia while part of it is in Europe. That part is what we call now Istanbul (Constantinople in the ancient world). I believe Turkey is an Asian country since its capital (Ankara) is located in Asia. With regards to Russia - is it also both Asian and European. In fact the big part of Russia is in Asia. However it is more of a European because its capital (Moscow) belongs to Europe. FYI: When Alaska is still part of Russia before it was sold to the US, Russia encompasses three continents - Asia, Europe and North America.


Both of you are right :=p

In this topic, I only mention about Turkey in Miss Universe. Maybe in Miss International, Miss Earth,... Turkey will be admitted as Asia country.

As I said, maybe MUO admits Turkey as Europe country politically (the same as recognition of US Government). If Turkey wins Miss Universe, it will be Europe's winning.

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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby Elif87 » Fri May 24, 2013 10:56 pm

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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby Blade » Fri May 24, 2013 11:03 pm

Turkey is an Asian country, as far as I'm concerned. That's what I learned in my Social Studies class years ago.
If Turkey wasn't a member of the European Union, it'll be stuck in Asia forever, so I guess it can somehow claim that it's European.
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby Mariana Erwin » Sat May 25, 2013 3:23 am

I think it's a European country in Miss Universe. The thing is, Turkey is a transcontinental country. Culturally, it's also Asian, but politically, European. So I think MU goes for it's political side.
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby novemberRain » Sat May 25, 2013 3:53 am

Europe :-*
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby Jon A » Sat May 25, 2013 4:18 am

I think most Turks consider themselves European, and Turkey has applied for EU membership, so I think that pretty much indicates where it leans politically. Although Turkey is a modern nation, it is in some ways, still an artefact of the Ottoman Empire, which principally had a European footprint, so just like Russia, although physically a larger part of Turkey is in Asia, a significant part of its population and its historical roots lie in Europe.

MU doesn't understand geography anyway, so I don't think they care.
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby Jupiter Street » Sat May 25, 2013 4:39 am

The pageant last grouped contestants according to continents in the late 1990s so I don't think Turkey's affiliation would be an issue.

You'd be more baffled with Israel. It definitely belongs to the Asian mainland, and its neighbors (Arab countries) consider themselves Asians. But Israel has never joined the Asian Games, joining instead sports events in Europe.
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby Lapfic » Sat May 25, 2013 5:19 am

Jupiter Street wrote:You'd be more baffled with Israel. It definitely belongs to the Asian mainland, and its neighbors (Arab countries) consider themselves Asians. But Israel has never joined the Asian Games, joining instead sports events in Europe.


Yes, the same as Kazakhstan :=p

In "Best in National Costume" voting on NBC website in 2008, Israel was in Asia group.
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby NHOIE_GEE » Sat May 25, 2013 5:26 am

im in love with this country and their people..

anyway..

Turkey is a transcontinental Eurasian country. Asian Turkey (made up largely of Anatolia), which includes 97% of the country, is separated from European Turkey by the Bosphorus, the Sea of Marmara, and the Dardanelles (which together form a water link between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean). European Turkey (eastern Thrace or Rumelia in the Balkan peninsula) comprises 3% of the country..

SO FOR 97%.. ITS ASIAN COUNTRY!
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby Lapfic » Sat May 25, 2013 5:30 am

Jupiter Street wrote:The pageant last grouped contestants according to continents in the late 1990s so I don't think Turkey's affiliation would be an issue.

You'd be more baffled with Israel. It definitely belongs to the Asian mainland, and its neighbors (Arab countries) consider themselves Asians. But Israel has never joined the Asian Games, joining instead sports events in Europe.


In this video, you can see Miss Universe 1976 from Israel appearing in Middle East region, not Europe:

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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby Lapfic » Sat May 25, 2013 5:44 am

NHOIE_GEE wrote:im in love with this country and their people..

anyway..

Turkey is a transcontinental Eurasian country. Asian Turkey (made up largely of Anatolia), which includes 97% of the country, is separated from European Turkey by the Bosphorus, the Sea of Marmara, and the Dardanelles (which together form a water link between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean). European Turkey (eastern Thrace or Rumelia in the Balkan peninsula) comprises 3% of the country..


You are so right :=p

Geographically Malta 100% is in Africa, but Malta is Europe country.

Depend the field we say about, Turkey will be Europe or Asia country. In this topic, I only mention about Turkey in Miss Universe.

If an international pageant considers Turkey as Asia country, so do I.

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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby juicy_fruit146 » Sat May 25, 2013 6:19 am

IN MISS UNIVERSE 1997 PARADE OF NATION, TURKEY WAS INTRODUCED AS PART OF MEDITERRANEAN, THE MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA! SO PROBABLY TURKEY IS PART OF EUROPE CAUSE THEY DIDN'T INTRODUCED TURKEY AS AN ASIAN COUNTRY =i =i =i =i =i
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby NHOIE_GEE » Sat May 25, 2013 6:35 am

juicy_fruit146 wrote:IN MISS UNIVERSE 1997 PARADE OF NATION, TURKEY WAS INTRODUCED AS PART OF MEDITERRANEAN, THE MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA! SO PROBABLY TURKEY IS PART OF EUROPE CAUSE THEY DIDN'T INTRODUCED TURKEY AS AN ASIAN COUNTRY =i =i =i =i =i


BUT THERES ONLY ONE PLACE WHERE TURKEY SHOULD PLACE..

FACT: THERE IS ONLY 7 CONTINENTS IN THE WORLD

FACT: MIDDLE EAST IS STILL PART OF AN ASIAN CONTINENT

the problem with these people.. theyre are thinking that asian people are just exclusive for chinese looking face, filipinos and Indian ancestry..
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby juicy_fruit146 » Sat May 25, 2013 6:41 am

NHOIE_GEE wrote:
juicy_fruit146 wrote:IN MISS UNIVERSE 1997 PARADE OF NATION, TURKEY WAS INTRODUCED AS PART OF MEDITERRANEAN, THE MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA! SO PROBABLY TURKEY IS PART OF EUROPE CAUSE THEY DIDN'T INTRODUCED TURKEY AS AN ASIAN COUNTRY =i =i =i =i =i


BUT THERES ONLY ONE PLACE WHERE TURKEY SHOULD PLACE..

FACT: THERE IS ONLY 7 CONTINENTS IN THE WORLD

FACT: MIDDLE EAST IS STILL PART OF AN ASIAN CONTINENT

the problem with these people.. theyre are thinking that asian people are just exclusive for chinese looking face, filipinos and Indian ancestry..


BUT IN MISS UNIVERSE THEY ARE SORT OF PART OF EUROPE & THATS THE FACT! :)>- :)>- :)>-
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby maldita_salvaje » Sat May 25, 2013 6:47 am

ANATOMICALLY THEY LOOK CAUCASIAN SO I WOULD SAY EUROPEAN COUNTRY!
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby HiddenSpice » Sat May 25, 2013 9:13 am

Turkey is located in Asia but the people are Europeans that is why they consider their country as a european country. But let's be realistic Turkey is in asia.
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Postby marcelo penaso » Sat May 25, 2013 9:29 am

parang sa asia ang turkey ang ethnic nila galing asya sa mapa naman 3/4 of the land area is part of asia then a little bit part of europe.
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby cronista » Sat May 25, 2013 12:22 pm

NOT ONLY POLITICALY BUT IN THE SPORT FIELD TURKEY COMPETES IN EUROPE, FOR EXAMPLE IT PLAYS EVERY 4 YEARS WITH EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO TRY TO QUALLIFY TO THE FIFA WORLD CUP
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby tresure » Sat May 25, 2013 12:59 pm

IN HARSH WORD.....TURKEY IS EUROPEAN WANNABE....

ACTUALLY EUROPE & ASIA LOCATED IN THE SAME CONTINENT, THINGS THAT MAKE THEM "SEEM" SEPARATED ARE THEIR CULTURAL DIFFERENCES.....
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby HiddenSpice » Sat May 25, 2013 1:16 pm

If Russia is a Eurasian country [it's too huge, partly europe, partly asia] (Yes Russia sends a candidate in Miss Asia and Pacific), then Turkey is definitely in asia.
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Postby Lapfic » Sat May 25, 2013 1:24 pm

HiddenSpice wrote:
If Russia is a Eurasian country [it's too huge, partly europe, partly asia] (Yes Russia sends a candidate in Miss Asia and Pacific), then Turkey is definitely in asia.


Yes, if a country locates in 2 continents, this country can compete pageants of 2 continents. Turkey and Russia can compete both Miss Europe and Miss Asia Pacific. >:D<
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby cronista » Sat May 25, 2013 3:31 pm

Lapfic wrote:
HiddenSpice wrote:
If Russia is a Eurasian country [it's too huge, partly europe, partly asia] (Yes Russia sends a candidate in Miss Asia and Pacific), then Turkey is definitely in asia.


Yes, if a country locates in 2 continents, this country can compete pageants of 2 continents. Turkey and Russia can compete both Miss Europe and Miss Asia Pacific. >:D<


THIS IS WHY MEXICO SOMETHINES COMPETES IN BOTH CARIBEAN AND NORTH AMERICAN TOURNAMENTS BECAUSE GEOGRAPHICALLY WE ARE IN BOTH REGIONS, EVEN WHEN POLITICALLY WE ARE IN NORTH AMERICA.
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby HARAYA » Sat May 25, 2013 3:43 pm


Europe, though geographically it sits on both Asia and Europe.
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Re: In Miss Universe, Turkey is Europe country or Asia count

Postby Sky Wind » Sun May 26, 2013 8:11 am

Well, Turkey is an Euroasia country.
But since they can participate in ESC, I think Turkey is located on Europe. (Correct me if I'm wrong!)
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