Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

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Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:21 am

    



Venus Raj's Evening Gown Score: 8.714 (advanced in the Final 5)
Angela Martini's Evening Gown Score: 8.693 (eliminated)
Rozanna Purcell's Evening Gown Score: 8.548 (eliminated)

In your opinion, do you think Angela or Rozanna was unfairly eliminated at Miss Universe 2010 and let Venus Raj advanced in the Final 5 despite her Alfredo Barazza's gown was more "tacky" and "poorly" designed than Angela and Rozanna's gowns according to some netizens? Was their styling also became the factor on Angela and Rozanna's elimination?

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Ireland and Albania very deserves in the top 5!!!


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Albania and Ireland were robbed in this edition of Miss Universe pageant....


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FYI:Ms. Philippines gown, did not fit in the a day before the finals...but there were some filipinos, who be able to help her. Her gown is a symbol of "Bayanihan" or "working together attitude" of the Filipinos.


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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby renegade » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:01 am

Yendi's gown and Australia were also not that good.

To be honest, Ireland and Albania should have made the top 5 instead of Australia and Ukraine.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby sOUTH BEaCH » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:39 am

Rozanna Purcell was robbed! ~X(
she deserved to be in the top 5
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:03 am

renegade wrote:Yendi's gown and Australia were also not that good.

To be honest, Ireland and Albania should have made the top 5 instead of Australia and Ukraine.


Unfortunately Venus was an easy target for Angela and Rozanna's defenders, especially her gown was designed by Barazza.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:06 am

ROZANNA PURCELL'S DOWNFALL IN MISS UNIVERSE 2010 EVENING GOWN COMPETITION IS HER HAIRSTYLE.
VERY NOT SUITABLE FOR HER GOWN.

ANGELA MARTINI'S DOWNFALL IS HER WALK. NOT IMPRESSIVE DURING EVENING GOWN COMPETITION.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:10 am

sOUTH BEaCH wrote:
Rozanna Purcell was robbed! ~X(
she deserved to be in the top 5


Then why she got eliminated?
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby wigglytooth21 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:28 am

It's not the gown that is being judged, but how the contestants carried themselves with their gown. Venus had better over-all gown presentation than Angela and Rozanna despite her tacky gown.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby Oscillate » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:57 am

wigglytooth21 wrote:It's now the gown that is being judged, but how the contestants carried themselves with their gown. Venus had better over-all gown presentation than Angela and Rozanna despite her tacky gown.


Angela and Rozanna's presentations were tacky.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby bcdf1930 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm

IT IS NOT THE GOWN, IT IS THE CONTESTANT! VENUS COULD EVEN CARRY A RAG AND STILL MAKE THE TOP 5! SHE IS A NATURAL PERFORMER! :7 :7 :7
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby IanC062 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:30 pm

Yes,it was an unfair elimination.
Will always be unforgivable .
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby bataatheart » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:58 pm

It's not just about the gown, it's how you carry it.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby esperasave » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:52 pm

bataatheart wrote:It's not just about the gown, it's how you carry it.


Literally, Venus carried her gown because it was so bonggasious and very hefty. Look at her from the top 10 announcement.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby vinusya » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:54 pm

the crown was hers in the first place BUT she messed up her Q&A leaving the judges DISAPPOINTED.

SO, VENUS WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby rockondude » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:29 am

Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:ROZANNA PURCELL'S DOWNFALL IN MISS UNIVERSE 2010 EVENING GOWN COMPETITION IS HER HAIRSTYLE.
VERY NOT SUITABLE FOR HER GOWN.

ANGELA MARTINI'S DOWNFALL IS HER WALK. NOT IMPRESSIVE DURING EVENING GOWN COMPETITION.


I sorry but this is an excuse In fact the non top 5 placement of miss Ireland that year was so controversial that even Trump said it was an injustice. Australia, Jamaica, Philippines and Ukraine all had a weaker face then her. Rozanna non top 5 placement is one of the most controversial things to happen in that decade. She could had been a super iconic miss Universe.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby rockondude » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:32 am

The only real competition Ximena had in that year was Puerto Rico and Ireland and Mariana came out in a clown costume and Rozanna was underscore.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:52 am

rockondude wrote:
Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:ROZANNA PURCELL'S DOWNFALL IN MISS UNIVERSE 2010 EVENING GOWN COMPETITION IS HER HAIRSTYLE.
VERY NOT SUITABLE FOR HER GOWN.

ANGELA MARTINI'S DOWNFALL IS HER WALK. NOT IMPRESSIVE DURING EVENING GOWN COMPETITION.


I sorry but this is an excuse In fact the non top 5 placement of miss Ireland that year was so controversial that even Trump said it was an injustice. Australia, Jamaica, Philippines and Ukraine all had a weaker face then her. Rozanna non top 5 placement is one of the most controversial things to happen in that decade. She could had been a super iconic miss Universe.


So the CHI stylist is to blame for her elimination?
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby elio » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:17 am

UKRAINE ANNA POSLAVSKA HAS AN ANGEL FACE,SIMPLY PURE SWEET BEAUTY,MY FAV THIS YEAR
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby rockondude » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:30 am

ajsy0203 wrote:
rockondude wrote:
Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:ROZANNA PURCELL'S DOWNFALL IN MISS UNIVERSE 2010 EVENING GOWN COMPETITION IS HER HAIRSTYLE.
VERY NOT SUITABLE FOR HER GOWN.

ANGELA MARTINI'S DOWNFALL IS HER WALK. NOT IMPRESSIVE DURING EVENING GOWN COMPETITION.


I sorry but this is an excuse In fact the non top 5 placement of miss Ireland that year was so controversial that even Trump said it was an injustice. Australia, Jamaica, Philippines and Ukraine all had a weaker face then her. Rozanna non top 5 placement is one of the most controversial things to happen in that decade. She could had been a super iconic miss Universe.


So the CHI stylist is to blame for her elimination?


The hair was good, she look great the judging was super off that year. Everything about Miss Ireland missing the top 5 was unacceptable. I remember been in a party and everyone been in shock when she didn't made the top 5.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby Mariana Erwin » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:28 am

I believe 2010 was one of the strongest batches to the point that selecting the strongest of the strong was the hardest. I love Rozanna and Angela but I think Ximena, Yendim and Venus took over both of them. I’m not a fan of Jesinta or Anna although it would be great to see Mexico, Albania, Jamaica, Ireland, and the Philippines go on top five.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby Philippinesupporter1998 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:00 pm

Real talk: Jesinta Campbell (Australia) placed WWWWAAAAAYYYYYY too high. Would've chosen Rosanna or Angela instead. Anna Poslavska (Ukraine) was refreshing, though.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby mario_venum_rock » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:40 pm



Yendi have a horrible gown as well, but she carried it in a fierce and lovely manner which is a BIG THING during the Trump era.

Ukraine had a very simple gown, it is nothing compared to Roz and Angela's gown, but her angelic face and sweet demeanor during EG amplified her performance and complimented her gown of choice.

Jesinta also have a so so gown thats why it is not Rozana's first choice which lead her lend that gown to Jesinta, but then again the floral applique of her gown just complimented Jesinta's outgoing and lovely personality.

Venus gown was a " Barraza " gown, but looking at the top 10, she is the only one wearing a full metallic gown which works well on her skin color, while others went on with big hair, she wore a bun. the gown having a very long train and notable big bow will definitely look too busy had she gone for big wavy hair.

and lets not forget back then, dramatic presentation is a big thing be it on the performance or the gown itself, otherwise we wont see a Zuleyka, Riyo, Dayana, Taliana, Ada Aimee, XImena, YEndi and Venus' performance.

all in all its all about making a good and lasting impression and that can only be done by having an extraordinary gown or extra ordinary performance. a beautiful gown but safe performance wont guarantee you of moving forward and thats what happened to Angela and Roz.



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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:38 pm

mario_venum_rock wrote:

Yendi have a horrible gown as well, but she carried it in a fierce and lovely manner which is a BIG THING during the Trump era.

Ukraine had a very simple gown, it is nothing compared to Roz and Angela's gown, but her angelic face and sweet demeanor during EG amplified her performance and complimented her gown of choice.

Jesinta also have a so so gown thats why it is not Rozana's first choice which lead her lend that gown to Jesinta, but then again the floral applique of her gown just complimented Jesinta's outgoing and lovely personality.

Venus gown was a " Barraza " gown, but looking at the top 10, she is the only one wearing a full metallic gown which works well on her skin color, while others went on with big hair, she wore a bun. the gown having a very long train and notable big bow will definitely look too busy had she gone for big wavy hair.

and lets not forget back then, dramatic presentation is a big thing be it on the performance or the gown itself, otherwise we wont see a Zuleyka, Riyo, Dayana, Taliana, Ada Aimee, XImena, YEndi and Venus' performance.

all in all its all about making a good and lasting impression and that can only be done by having an extraordinary gown or extra ordinary performance. a beautiful gown but safe performance wont guarantee you of moving forward and thats what happened to Angela and Roz.





It boiled down to styling and wow factor.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby GloriaDiazUniverse » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:41 am

TO SAY THAT VENUS' GOWN WAS TACKY IS JUST YOUR OWN OPINION. THE JUDGES PROBABLY LIKED THE GOWN AND HOW IT WAS PRESENTED BY HER. UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU, YOU WERE NOT ONE THE OF THE JUDGES. :%))





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Venus Raj's Evening Gown Score: 8.714 (advanced in the Final 5)
Angela Martini's Evening Gown Score: 8.693 (eliminated)
Rozanna Purcell's Evening Gown Score: 8.548 (eliminated)

In your opinion, do you think Angela or Rozanna was unfairly eliminated at Miss Universe 2010 and let Venus Raj advanced in the Final 5 despite her Alfredo Barazza's gown was more "tacky" and "poorly" designed than Angela and Rozanna's gowns according to some netizens? Was their styling also became the factor on Angela and Rozanna's elimination?

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E*A* (name withheld)
Ireland and Albania very deserves in the top 5!!!


J*C* (name withheld)
Albania and Ireland were robbed in this edition of Miss Universe pageant....


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FYI:Ms. Philippines gown, did not fit in the a day before the finals...but there were some filipinos, who be able to help her. Her gown is a symbol of "Bayanihan" or "working together attitude" of the Filipinos.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby GloriaDiazUniverse » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:47 am

i ALSO THOUGHT VENUS WAS FAVORED BY MUO TO WIN THAT YEAR. BUT NO NO NO NO NO. SHE WASN'T A MAJOR MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT FOR FILIPINOS (NO PUN INTENDED :%)) ). OUR WINNING STREAK/PLACEMENTS AT Miss Universe BEGAN WITH HER AMAZING PERFORMANCE. AND WE LOVE HER TO THIS DAY FOR THAT. :hx


vinusya wrote:the crown was hers in the first place BUT she messed up her Q&A leaving the judges DISAPPOINTED.

SO, VENUS WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby Mariana Erwin » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:22 am

vinusya wrote:the crown was hers in the first place BUT she messed up her Q&A leaving the judges DISAPPOINTED.

SO, VENUS WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT.
I don't think she was a disappointment at all. It's just that the way she presented her answer was hilarious although it still made sense. Her emphasis was hilarious but that was fine - it's just that the other answers happened to be better.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby Mariana Erwin » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:24 am

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rockondude wrote:
Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:ROZANNA PURCELL'S DOWNFALL IN MISS UNIVERSE 2010 EVENING GOWN COMPETITION IS HER HAIRSTYLE.
VERY NOT SUITABLE FOR HER GOWN.

ANGELA MARTINI'S DOWNFALL IS HER WALK. NOT IMPRESSIVE DURING EVENING GOWN COMPETITION.


I sorry but this is an excuse In fact the non top 5 placement of miss Ireland that year was so controversial that even Trump said it was an injustice. Australia, Jamaica, Philippines and Ukraine all had a weaker face then her. Rozanna non top 5 placement is one of the most controversial things to happen in that decade. She could had been a super iconic miss Universe.


So the CHI stylist is to blame for her elimination?
I don't think the stylists should be blamed for this - but I think Rozanna not placing in the final five isn't surprising as it looks. I don't think the judges liked the way she presented herself and were more struck by how Venus and Ximena showed themselves.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby ajsy0203 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:34 pm

GloriaDiazUniverse wrote:TO SAY THAT VENUS' GOWN WAS TACKY IS JUST YOUR OWN OPINION. THE JUDGES PROBABLY LIKED THE GOWN AND HOW IT WAS PRESENTED BY HER. UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU, YOU WERE NOT ONE THE OF THE JUDGES. :%))





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Venus Raj's Evening Gown Score: 8.714 (advanced in the Final 5)
Angela Martini's Evening Gown Score: 8.693 (eliminated)
Rozanna Purcell's Evening Gown Score: 8.548 (eliminated)

In your opinion, do you think Angela or Rozanna was unfairly eliminated at Miss Universe 2010 and let Venus Raj advanced in the Final 5 despite her Alfredo Barazza's gown was more "tacky" and "poorly" designed than Angela and Rozanna's gowns according to some netizens? Was their styling also became the factor on Angela and Rozanna's elimination?

Some of the comments on YT:
E*A* (name withheld)
Ireland and Albania very deserves in the top 5!!!


J*C* (name withheld)
Albania and Ireland were robbed in this edition of Miss Universe pageant....


D*M* (name withheld)
FYI:Ms. Philippines gown, did not fit in the a day before the finals...but there were some filipinos, who be able to help her. Her gown is a symbol of "Bayanihan" or "working together attitude" of the Filipinos.


Please read again. "according to some netizens"
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby RatedX » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:10 am

Rozanna's gown, although is a good looking gown, made her look short and heavy.

Angela's gown is better and could've beaten Venus. Unfortunately, the judges preferred the way Venus Raj carried herself in her gown.

Remember, the judges scores are based on HOW THE GIRLS CARRIED THEMSELVES IN THEIR GOWN, NOT THE GOWN ITSELF.
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Re: Unfair Elimination?: Venus vs Angela and Rozanna

Postby JamesNaisse » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:24 am

it is so easy for some to judge and it is more painful to hear it if it comes from a fellow Filipino, when we all knew how far we’ve come. During Venus’s time, Filipino representatives needed to be content with whatever Stella Araneta ( former National director) gives to them, even if it is trash. The only saving grace that kept our reps in the top 5 for four straight years were their performances on how to walk such not so impressive gowns. It stopped when the next MUP after that (2014) had a different pageant trainer and they could not cope with the ill- fitting white dress (she had a story telling about this online already so we can confirm) , which became a sacrificial time and caused an outcry among the fans that the year after that( year 2015), our girls in various competitions used Filipino gowns under the director’s nose. The only one who tried to not hide it was our MUP, who respectfully lobbied for her gown to be Filipino- made, up to the final moments of the pageant. We all know now she eventually became Miss Universe, which paved the way for Filipino designers to dress our reps.
Did Venus deserve her placement? Yes, because she totally made up for the trashy gown with her superb presentation. A pretty girl who is a consistent performer will always have an edge over a beautiful girl who does less effort. No question about that. And yes all top 5 girls deserved their places because that night they were better than the other 5. It may not always be like that, but at that particular night, Mexico, Jamaica, Australia, Ukraine and Philippines performed better and shone that night.
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