Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th Miss Universe?

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Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th Miss Universe?

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:55 pm

    

After Bint and Anntonia's win at Miss International 2019 and Miss Supranational 2019 respectively, do you think Amanda has chance to end the 32 year drought for Thailand at 69th Miss Universe? What should Amanda do to avoid another misstep just like Chalita, Maria and Fashai who made it to the Top 5/6 but never made it to the Final 3?


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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:02 am

Note: Thailand placed at the pageant for 5 straight years (longest to date at Miss Universe but no near to 7 straight placements at MI), they finished in the Top 5/6 three times yet they failed to reach the Final 3 round and even worse IMG/MUO will not recognize Chalita, Maria and Fashai (let's include Maxine & H'Hen) as "runners-up" and ended up being a background clappers for the crowning moment unlike in the late Trump era where Venus, Zi Lin, Shamcey and Ariella recognized them as either 3rd or 4th Runner Up and received bouquet of flowers.

Miss America still recognized the finalists who failed to reach the Final 3 as "runners-up" in 2006, 2007 and 2020. In 2020, all the 3 finalists who failed to reach in the Final 2 received bouquet of flowers as part of their recognition.
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Postby Totoypasiboy » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:29 am

Just like the other Miss Universe Thailand winners, the answer is yes. They all have what it takes to win Thailand's 3rd Miss Universe. They know what the Org is looking for a winner. They now know the formula to win. It seems that the MUO organization and Mouwad (MUO biggest sponsor) are impressed with them. They just need to pray harder and hope that good luck will be on their side.
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Postby Geeyourhair » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:35 am

I don't think that is considered a "drought". You just said they placed in Miss Universe five times straight so that is something Thailand should rejoice. A drought is when a country did not advance to the semifinals just like the Philippines from 2000 to 2010.
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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:56 am

Geeyourhair wrote:I don't think that is considered a "drought". You just said they placed in Miss Universe five times straight so that is something Thailand should rejoice. A drought is when a country did not advance to the semifinals just like the Philippines from 2000 to 2010.


"title drought" not "placement drought"

They are very aggressive to end the long 32 year title drought at Miss Universe. If Pia was able to end the 42 year title drought in an awkward way why Amanda can't unless these Thai pageant fans are aggressive to campaign for Amanda at the upcoming Miss Universe.
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:02 am

How will Amanda be distinct from IMG queens Pia, Iris, Demi-Leigh, Catriona and Zozibini, if she wants to win Miss Universe?

Pia and Catriona made a inspired story about their hardships during their journey to the crown. Pia competed Bb. Pilipinas three straight times. Catriona's heartbreaking loss at Miss World gave her a new fighting spirit to compete at Bb. Pilipinas and won MUP.
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Postby cabra_chupa » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:12 am

if she tries to copy catriona again! no ! >:) but if shell create her own image and style and luck on her side answering the questions then yes she can be :=p
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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby bastyalex » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:34 am

In my opinion none of the Top 3 in MUT was stronger than Paweensuda, but with how they performed last night I seriously feel Thailand has much better chances of winning Miss Universe if they had crowned either Punika or Praveenar. With the way Amanda performed last night especially in her Q&As, and if she does not maximize her trainings to improve a lot, then she's just end up like Maria Ehren Poonlertlarp (MUT2017)
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Postby mybadname » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:02 am

With the way she answered her question, I doubt MUO will give Thailand their 3rd crown. It lacks substance especially the final question. I just dont understand praveenar and puninka answers but I find them more powerful based on their stance. Amanda need to polish her thoughts. Fahsai so far is still the best MUT for me.
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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby bluff » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:06 am

Ewan ko di ako nkaramdam ng kaunting takot para sa Miss Philippines mas takot ako kay Indonesia at Vietnam
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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby Garganesia » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:10 pm

=c3 =c3 =c3 I love Amanda, but i really feel that Veena would have been the perfect choice for Miss Universe perhaps for 2021 edition. I hope she can join again. Pia did it 3 times, I hope Veena try her luck again on the 3rd time. She is simply gorgeous!!!!
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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby pippo93 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:20 pm

BAUTY WISE, SHE COULD SNATCH THE CROWN. BUT IN THE Q&A PORTIONS (AT LEAST IN MISS UNIVERSE THAILAND) SHE IS A FLOP. AND MISS UNIVERSE IS NOW AN ORATHORY CONTEST, SO SHE NEEDS AN INTENSIVE TRAINING IN THIS DEPARTMENT.

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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby rddantes2011 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:27 pm

I dont think so.

On another topic, I was rooting for the 3rd runner-up to win. Just look at her face. If only she was younger.

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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby The Glamorous Twin » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:38 am

No. Her answers are not responsive to the questions.

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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby lucrecia_kasilag » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:21 am

You know what ajsy, we should not invest ourselves in the thought of Amanda ending their Miss Universe title drought since they won't care about ours either. =;))

However, if I have to put into perspective their stage perfomances, Punika is of course most controlled being a pageant veteran. Veena and Amanda performed their best as well. Among them, Veena has this innate sultriness yet some of her poses/gestures border MGI-ish which is sometimes uncalled for and she should work around on that.

In the final round, their answers were posted in pageant empress and titas of pageantry IGs. (Copy+paste from titas of pageantry IG page https://www.instagram.com/p/CGM3hXEhbhY ... w1Plf0oo0/)

Question: The Picture of Temple Dawn (Wat Arun) has always been taken to symbolise Thailand's spirit and landmark. If you became the new Miss Universe Thailand, in what way would you represent yourself as one of the most ICONIC of Thailand ? Please show us your real vision?

Veena: If I have a chance to represent Miss Universe Thailand and come to Miss Universe to represent Thailand, I will represent Thailand with humbleness from being raised to respect others and smiling. As Thailand is known as land of smiles, with these qualities anywhere you travel in this world, you will be able to represent the true meaning of being a Thai. Moreover, we're thought to love our nation, the religion and the king that all Thai people highly value and respect.

Punika: For me I will use Thai Baht coin to symbolise the spirituality of Wat Arun. With this coin I will use as a souvenir and to give to Miss Universe and fellow contestants in Miss Universe. I think it's the best choice to show everyone what our Thai culture and it clearly shows what our Thai culture is made of. Another way I will use my mannerism to represent Thailand in Miss Universe stage because I am proud to be Thai as a real Thai.

Amanda: If I were to represent Thailand honestly, I will show everyone myself because I often get critique of being half-Thai, half-Canadian. But what I wanna say today is I am Thai; I was born to a Thai mother and I could not have been more Thai. So I wanna show you all of me, all of my Thainess because I am a Thai.


Pardon some of the loose translation, like humbleness to humility, mannerism to attitude or values.

My 2 cents. Their final question is so cliche that it will be considered as audition/selection question in Philippine pageantry setting. If the question is asking more than just a representation or iconism (if that is even the word), say legacy or leaving a mark to Thai society and people, Veena's answer is the nearest.

Punika's more of a shade haha!

With the way Amanda answered the question, the thought of Bb. Pilipinas still having the MUP franchise will simply relegate her as filler in top 40.

Given that IMG/MUO are dying to have Thailand as winner, good luck to them justifying Amanda's win then.

If TPN/MUT is fervent in coveting the crown, they should train Amanda asap about geopolitical and societal taboo questions! We all know who faltered when Catriona was asked about Marijuana use, Pia's US military presence and Fahsai's security or privacy.
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Postby Yna Magenta » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:58 am

atm wit ko pa na sasight, pero dahil naghost na sila kaya dagdag chances of winning si ateng =/ ~X(
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Postby esquire27 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:18 am

Thailand’s rep for Miss Universe is a disappointment! I was rooting for them to win their third miss universe crown. They wasted Veena yet again! Amanda needs to work hard in her q and a if she wants to advance in the top 3.
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Postby DULCENEA » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:51 pm

I'M NOT A FAN OF HER BUT I LIKE HER MORE THAN PAWEENSUDA .90% SHE HAS A HIGH CHANCE TO WIN THE 3RD CROWN FOR THAILAND THE REMAINING 10% IS HER PREPARATIONS IT DEPENDS ON HER IF SHE IMPROVE HER Q AND A ROUNDS BUT NONETHELESS SHE HAS WHAT IT TAKES. I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME FOR THAILAND TO WIN IT. I WILL BE HAPPY FOR THEM..
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Postby lunica » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:08 pm

always a possibility with Thailand.
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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby ajsy0203 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:16 pm

lucrecia_kasilag wrote:You know what ajsy, we should not invest ourselves in the thought of Amanda ending their Miss Universe title drought since they won't care about ours either. =;))

However, if I have to put into perspective their stage perfomances, Punika is of course most controlled being a pageant veteran. Veena and Amanda performed their best as well. Among them, Veena has this innate sultriness yet some of her poses/gestures border MGI-ish which is sometimes uncalled for and she should work around on that.

In the final round, their answers were posted in pageant empress and titas of pageantry IGs. (Copy+paste from titas of pageantry IG page https://www.instagram.com/p/CGM3hXEhbhY ... w1Plf0oo0/)

Question: The Picture of Temple Dawn (Wat Arun) has always been taken to symbolise Thailand's spirit and landmark. If you became the new Miss Universe Thailand, in what way would you represent yourself as one of the most ICONIC of Thailand ? Please show us your real vision?

Veena: If I have a chance to represent Miss Universe Thailand and come to Miss Universe to represent Thailand, I will represent Thailand with humbleness from being raised to respect others and smiling. As Thailand is known as land of smiles, with these qualities anywhere you travel in this world, you will be able to represent the true meaning of being a Thai. Moreover, we're thought to love our nation, the religion and the king that all Thai people highly value and respect.

Punika: For me I will use Thai Baht coin to symbolise the spirituality of Wat Arun. With this coin I will use as a souvenir and to give to Miss Universe and fellow contestants in Miss Universe. I think it's the best choice to show everyone what our Thai culture and it clearly shows what our Thai culture is made of. Another way I will use my mannerism to represent Thailand in Miss Universe stage because I am proud to be Thai as a real Thai.

Amanda: If I were to represent Thailand honestly, I will show everyone myself because I often get critique of being half-Thai, half-Canadian. But what I wanna say today is I am Thai; I was born to a Thai mother and I could not have been more Thai. So I wanna show you all of me, all of my Thainess because I am a Thai.


Pardon some of the loose translation, like humbleness to humility, mannerism to attitude or values.

My 2 cents. Their final question is so cliche that it will be considered as audition/selection question in Philippine pageantry setting. If the question is asking more than just a representation or iconism (if that is even the word), say legacy or leaving a mark to Thai society and people, Veena's answer is the nearest.

Punika's more of a shade haha!

With the way Amanda answered the question, the thought of Bb. Pilipinas still having the MUP franchise will simply relegate her as filler in top 40.

Given that IMG/MUO are dying to have Thailand as winner, good luck to them justifying Amanda's win then.

If TPN/MUT is fervent in coveting the crown, they should train Amanda asap about geopolitical and societal taboo questions! We all know who faltered when Catriona was asked about Marijuana use, Pia's US military presence and Fahsai's security or privacy.


There is a thin line between being aggressive and desperate. Since few of the Thai forumers are wanted to get even with the Philippines after Pia Wurtzbach won in 2015 but it became more complicated when Catriona won 3 years later.

Bint and Anntonia's win boosted Thailand chances of getting the ultimate crown but the new IMG format prevented them from getting into the finish line. Let's see if Amanda has the chance to work with MUO and Miss USA 2020 & Miss Teen USA 2020 pageant sisters. Remember Miss Universe is a job not a flashy title.

Not just Thailand's quest to end 32 year title drought at 69th Miss Universe. We should also see if South Africa finally get their back to back win after the painful failed back to back bid 2 years ago when Tamaryn lost to Catriona (3 wins in 4 years like India at Miss World 1997-2000 & Philippines at Miss Earth 2014-2017). We should also see if Philippines will maintain the momentum when Venus started the placement streak.
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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby fortela » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:10 pm

bluff wrote:Ewan ko di ako nkaramdam ng kaunting takot para sa Miss Philippines mas takot ako kay Indonesia at Vietnam


bakit takot kay indonesia at vietnam? care to explain parang magkainsights
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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby rddantes2011 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:00 am

No. The 3rd runner up shouldve won. Veena is pretty but that hairstyle in the finals does not suit her face shape.

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On another note, I hope that Thai lady who won Miss Supranational joins MUT. Now that's a Miss Universe face.

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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby ajsy0203 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:48 am

rddantes2011 wrote:No. The 3rd runner up shouldve won. Veena is pretty but that hairstyle in the finals does not suit her face shape.

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On another note, I hope that Thai lady who won Miss Supranational joins MUT. Now that's a Miss Universe face.

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Maybe 2022.
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Re: Will Amanda Obdam end 32 year title drought TH at 69th M

Postby Lebsheke0211 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:36 am

She has what it takes to win the crown..

Remember before the dreaded Miss U Q and A, they will be judged on beauty, confidence and poise - something that Amanda already have.

From the MUT opening statement, the top 5 question down to the top 3, Amanda is consistent in answering with confidence and conviction. you can tell by the tone of her voice she is not second quessing, she answered with confidence. She has a commanding prescence when She speaks. She is a good speaker overall.

Telling her that she has no substance is just plain dumb. sorry for the word. Her opening statement is so powerful for someone who has "NO SUBSTANCE". :-j

She did answer the final question straight to the point.. btw people are criticizing her because of the word "THAINESS" - Take time and google it. its not a "MEMA WORD"... it has an actual meaning.

THAINESS meaning:
"refers to the various characteristics that define the Thai people and their rich culture, customs and mannerisms. cultureopinion"

in short - she is going to represent Thailand as a whole, not just thai's hospitality, but including their cuture etc.. as to what "THAINESS MEANS".. and that sealed her win.. not just because she can speak english.

NEVER UNDER ESTIMATE AMANDA'S WILL TO BRING HOME THE 3RD CROWN FOR THEIR COUNTRY..
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