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Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:07 am
by ajsy0203
This is an opinion piece from a pageant blogger about Catriona's reign as Miss Universe 2018 and the lack of international trips that heatedly debated between fans of the losing candidates (especially Indonesian pageant fans) and fans of Catriona Gray.



Source:
https://sashesandscripts.wordpress.com/ ... AFPd3Im1yE

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:20 am
by kurtij
LAST RESORT OF SORE LOSERS AND CHEAP PAGEANTS.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:53 am
by hauteegirl
because they think that traveling queens make them major queens and popular. like i said, if you google Miss Supra 2018, among the 2018 queens shes the most travelled queen but then shes still the least known queen. Catriona still the most popular and talked about queen and they're using her popularity.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:12 am
by mharlon
There are some valid points though. I partly blame MUO for not giving her more exposure or maybe everyone just expected too much after she won. It’s not that she has a boring reign but her activities are far and few in between and she’s always in PH and/or US and there were long ‘dead airs’ since she won. Add the CHI tutorials are not helping...

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:37 am
by Totoypasiboy
Well, Queen Cat was able to guest in almost all of the biggest network in the US which has huge international audience. What about the others? Huh?

It's not just about the quantity. It's the quality of her work. I'd rather see her visit one country but she's able to do charity works and her advocacy rather than visit 20 or more countries just to only crown a new queen.

Peace everyone! :)>- :)>- :)>-


Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:50 am
by koji
It's not about her, but IMG. They have not made her visible and scrimped on her travel for her to advocate her chosen advocacies and of Miss Universe.

AND WHY DIDN'T THEY INCLUDE THE BOTTOM LINE IN COMPARING REIGNS?

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:40 pm
by peterdp
I'm not sure why people are expecting her to travel when:

Her advocacies are HIV and Young Focus which she has been very active in terms of speaking engagements and raising funds (recent one was for the computer lab of the school).
- She could not jump on any other advocacies if she or IMG is not approached (like Smile Train for Demi). It's the benefiting organization's choice.

What do we really expect from beauty queens? For me, it's basically winning the pageant. Anything she does afterwards are icing on the cake.
- Also, the activities during the reign are basically based on the org's mission/vision.
Example: IMG is really a modeling company and post pageant activities are mainly driven by the winner's advocacies. While Miss Earth is centered on environmental awareness so the activities would
revolve around this.

At the end of the day, we are just nitpicking on the activities during the queen's reign because the next edition is still too far off. We don't have anything else to talk about but wait until pre-pageant activities are underway for the next edition and we will all forget to nitpick the reigning queen's affair and will only be really interested on her final dress. :-*

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:43 pm
by calcifer
I rarely post or reply to anything here, but just would like to share my opinion. Isn't it ironic that she is the "least traveled" queen as they said, but most of the other queens doesn't even reached at least 500k followers on IG? If people are interested with these "other" queens, it should reflect at least on their social media presence. It says a lot on the impact and reach of an organization and the queen to the world, the universe rather. :) On a side note, only Miss Universe, ME and MI have verified accounts on IG. And remember, like what Bianca del Rio said:
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Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:52 pm
by blazingskyx27
I find this whole thing funny. Some people just can't shake off the hate in their bodies. But when a new girl gets crowned in the next edition of Miss Universe, her country of origin will make exclamation filled remarks like " We did it " or " Mother's children will rule pageantry" from that Misso forumer from the Santolan. :%)) :%)) :%))

Kidding aside, if this is the trend or state of activities a Miss Universe winner is designated to do during her reign, we expect the same will happen to Catriona's successor this December or next year. Meaning , we'll never hear the end of it, of how a Miss Universe is traveling less under IMG compared to the Trump Era.

The bigger question is, if ever the winners from other pageant travel more, what exactly is the purpose of their presence in that country? If the answer is to promote the pageant itself by crowning a representative, it only means that the tools for promoting the said pageant is not really working, that their brand is not connecting to the masses. That can be a problem. Which to the MUO is the least of their worries, after establishing The Miss Universe pageant SINCE 1952, a brand that withstand the test of time for the past 67 years.





Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:04 pm
by vinusya
spend money for charity works not for international trips. thumbs up to MUO!

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:10 pm
by Oscillate
It is not about Catriona or IMG.

It is about Indonesian pageant fans who are innately stupid and jealous.

Though I personally want Catriona to travel more, I am consoled by the fact that her charitable achievements even by staying in the USA make the travels of minor pageant queen (with main purpose to crown the winner) IRRELEVANT.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:26 pm
by Tingle Wingle
As long as our Miss Universe is spending her time on her advocacies and IMG is happy with her, then I’m happy with her.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:39 pm
by bloomfield
There’s NO comparison here, Miss Universe is Miss Universe, well travelled or not, Miss Universe is the most well -known pageant on earth !!!! Even the oldie MW can’t beat it !!!! :D/

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:20 pm
by pippo93
STOP BEING FALSE AND HYPOCRITIS. IN YEARS, EVERYONE HAS CRITICISED THE WINNERS WHO DID NOT TRAVEL (HELLO OLIVIA CULPO? ALMOST EVERY MISS NTERNATIONAL TITLEHOLDERS?) AND NOW ONLY BECAUSE OF CATRIONA, YOU DEFENDED IT? AHAHAHHAHAA

IT'S OBJECTIVE THAT HER REIGN IS BORING TO DEATH (ATTENTION: THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM AGAINST CATRIONA, BUT AGAINST IMG).

HER REIGN IS GOING TO PHILIPPINES OR MAKE A CHI TUTORIALS? I DIDN'T SEE ALSO THIS CHARITABLE WORK THAT EVERYBODY SAY.

SADLY SHE HAS NO EXPOSURE.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:20 pm
by hauteegirl
pippo93 wrote:
STOP BEING FALSE AND HYPOCRITIS. IN YEARS, EVERYONE HAS CRITICISED THE WINNERS WHO DID NOT TRAVEL (HELLO OLIVIA CULPO? ALMOST EVERY MISS NTERNATIONAL TITLEHOLDERS?) AND NOW ONLY BECAUSE OF CATRIONA, YOU DEFENDED IT? AHAHAHHAHAA

IT'S OBJECTIVE THAT HER REIGN IS BORING TO DEATH (ATTENTION: THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM AGAINST CATRIONA, BUT AGAINST IMG).

HER REIGN IS GOING TO PHILIPPINES OR MAKE A CHI TUTORIALS? I DIDN'T SEE ALSO THIS CHARITABLE WORK THAT EVERYBODY SAY.

SADLY SHE HAS NO EXPOSURE.




I never cared about Miss Universe travels. You didnt see her charitable work? That's because you didnt care about her because if you do YOU WOULD KNOW. STOP PRETENDNG! :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;))

She doesnt need exposure. She's MISS UNIVERSE. The minor queens are the one needed exposures because still no one knows them. Google search and Google trend their names and you would see it that Catriona is still the MOST POPULAR QUEEN. :%))

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:06 pm
by mrgary
Miss Universe is Miss Universe.
It is it's own league. When Megan Young (Miss World 2013) and Molly Isler (Miss Universe 2013) met together for the first time in Russia in 2014, Molly still got the upper hand over Megan even if the latter looked prettier than the former because of the fact that Molly was Miss Universe. The packaging, media mileage, exposure, fan base, viewership and popularity of Miss Universe are way better and are always different than those of Miss World's or any other major pageant titles.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:39 pm
by totobz
I strongly suggest to everyone that before you post a reply to please access the link and read the full article the TS is referring to. Judging from some of the remarks made in this thread (especially the negative ones), it is quite obvious the rather long but very comprehensive article was not read or perhaps, not understood.

It is more than an opinion piece. The writer painstakingly researched facts and actual figures to support his point. Something that the original TS in another post did not do i.e. Catriona travelled to only 2 countries? Which countries are those? From my limited knowledge of her travels, she has gone to at least 3: Thailand, Canada, Philippines or US depending on what you consider her home base. Plus more to come since she is only half-way through her reign.

With Catriona's MASSIVE Social Media following and several appearances in US media and red carpet events, she does have a lot of exposure. And somebody commented she needs more???

I appreciate the article because not only does it disprove these parties that try to diminish Cat's reign, but also makes their true intention even more obvious.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:07 pm
by globetrotter69
She has nothing to prove now that she is living the dream! I feel bad for those Shattered dreamers who can never become a Miss Universe! They can lick her arse for goodness sake! 8-> [-X :O)

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:51 pm
by manoypoe
Totoypasiboy wrote:Well, Queen Cat was able to guest in almost all of the biggest network in the US which has huge international audience. What about the others? Huh?

It's not just about the quantity. It's the quality of her work. I'd rather see her visit one country but she's able to do charity works and her advocacy rather than visit 20 or more countries just to only crown a new queen.

Peace everyone! :)>- :)>- :)>-



This! Plus the fact that a single post of Catriona in her IG account is garnering more than hundreds of thousands likes which other Queens would like their followers in IG will be of same number. Her IG interaction is more impactful that some queens travelling in some parts of the world but the country their visited can hardly felt their presence. =O/ =O/

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:00 pm
by mrgary
That is what they will always do to any Miss Philippines who wins any major international title. Of course, Catriona has it worse than the others because she is "The Pageant Superstar" which is why the bashers, especially the Indonesians, try to discredit her reign but for me, let them keep coming because the more our queens get bashed, the more victorious they become in the international arena. Let them bash Catriona because Cat's worth will only get stronger. I agree with what the original TS says: "Haters gonna hate. Bashers gonna bash. But Catriona will continue to do what she does best: SHINE!"

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:46 pm
by ssyoki
At kailan pa naging travel mileage ang labanan?? [-X

Sa panahong ito ng social media mas reduced na ang need to physically travel to influence and make your presence felt. Kaya yung mga shunga dyan na nag co complain sa low travel mileage ni cat, move on kayo mga bakla hanggang ngayon ba amplaya pa rin?? :-@ :-@

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:49 pm
by TheGenuineBeauty
Miss Universe Initiatives: The Miss Universe Organization places priority on the importance of getting involved and giving back by providing a dedicated international platform of charitable partnerships. As leaders and role models within their communities, our contestants and titleholders work to affect positive change through volunteering, fundraising and advocacy. During their reign, our winners are given the tools to personally and professionally enrich others by dedicating themselves to raising awareness and much needed funds for philanthropic endeavors.

What does the Miss Universe, Miss USA and Miss Teen USA do after they are crowned?: After a winner is crowned, she is relocated to New York City where she will meet her new Miss Universe family. Through the organization, the winner is provided a platform for possibility based on her objectives for the year. Alongside The Miss Universe Organization, she will plan how to achieve her goals on the national and global scale.


Charity Related Things Catriona Has Done So Far

June 27th, 2019 which was HIV Testing Day. From what it looks like she gave a speech, made a video in association with amfAR, and got herself tested for HIV.
June 21st, 2019 which was Make Music Day and made a video for Education Through Music.
June 7, 2019 she mentions that she's starting to work with the United Nations Population Fund Philippines
May 22nd, 2019 participated in an event for Latino Commission of AIDS, which named her "godmother"
May 20th, 2019 she participated in the AIDS walk in New York
May 17th, 2019 was part of the 29th Anniversary of Apicha, another HIV/AIDS organization
April 25th, 2019 visited GMHC.
March 28th, 2019 attended an event for the celebration of the 30th anniversary of Best Buddies
February 27th, 2019 was part of a Smile Train event.
February 27th, 2019 she visited one of her favorite charities Young Focus in the Philippines

Countries Catriona Has Visited So Far and the Reasons

1. USA (MUO's home base and where she'll live during her reign)
2. Philippines (Homecoming and Binibining Pilipinas)
3. Indonesia (Part of Puteri Indonesia)
4. Thailand (Part of Miss Universe Thailand)
5 Dominican Republic coming soon (For Miss Dominican Republic)

Everything else has been fashion and/or media related. Keep in mind this is from what I have found on Miss Universe's Facebook and IG and also on Catriona's IG. I could have missed some events or posts. But the important thing is that Miss Universe like to claim that they are more than just beauty, but at the end of the day, they only work with a handful of charities and are mostly focused on fashion and media relations, which is what Miss Universe has been all this time. I am still upset at that time when Hurricane Maria struck Puerto Rico, and they were too busy at New York Fashion Week to even help (and that wasn't during Catriona's reign)

Long story short, don't blame Catriona, blame IMG and the organization, who like to say that they are more than just beauty and care about the initiatives, but at the same time most of the queens' reigns are spent doing photoshoots, going on fashion shows and promoting their sponsors (like CHI) If you actually care about philanthropy and charity then actually do some charity instead of the same organizations over and over again. If you want to be just a beauty pageant and nothing else, then stop asking representatives for resumes and advocacies if they are mostly doing to be doing model related things. Practice what you preach, just saying.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:26 am
by bravohart26
kurtij wrote:
LAST RESORT OF SORE LOSERS AND CHEAP PAGEANTS.


i DEFINITELY AGREE! :}

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:29 am
by bravohart26
vinusya wrote:spend money for charity works not for international trips. thumbs up to MUO!


THUMBS UP FOR YOU TOO!

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:38 am
by kurtij
pippo93 wrote:
STOP BEING FALSE AND HYPOCRITIS. IN YEARS, EVERYONE HAS CRITICISED THE WINNERS WHO DID NOT TRAVEL (HELLO OLIVIA CULPO? ALMOST EVERY MISS NTERNATIONAL TITLEHOLDERS?) AND NOW ONLY BECAUSE OF CATRIONA, YOU DEFENDED IT? AHAHAHHAHAA

IT'S OBJECTIVE THAT HER REIGN IS BORING TO DEATH (ATTENTION: THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM AGAINST CATRIONA, BUT AGAINST IMG).

HER REIGN IS GOING TO PHILIPPINES OR MAKE A CHI TUTORIALS? I DIDN'T SEE ALSO THIS CHARITABLE WORK THAT EVERYBODY SAY.

SADLY SHE HAS NO EXPOSURE.


HMMMM.
TO SAY THAT SHE HAS NO EXPOSURE IS AN EXAGGERATION.
I'D LIKE TO INVALIDATE THAT WITH THESE:

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HIV AIDS AWARENESS


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BEST BUDDIES


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EDUCATION THROUGH MUSIC


ALSO, AFTER WINNING THE CROWN LAST YEAR, THE ONE YEAR EXPENDITURES OF THE FOUNDATION SHE SUPPORTS, THE YOUNG FOCUS, HAS BEEN COVERED IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT YES, I HAVE TO AGREE THAT IMG SHOULD GIVE HER MORE EXPOSURE BECAUSE SHE IS VERY CAPABLE TO DO MORE.

SHE IS BEING DEFENDED NOT ENTIRELY BECAUSE SHE IS CATRIONA, IT IS BECAUSE THE FANS OF GRAND INTERNATIONAL AND SUPRANATIONAL ARE USING HER "LACK OF INTERNATIONAL TRIPS" TO ELEVATE THE STATUS OF THESE BRANDS AND TARNISH THAT OF MISS UNIVERSE.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:47 am
by Jonathan Nguyen
Catriona is the worst Miss Universe ever. She has been jobless and fading compared to reigning queens like Vanessa and Ponkan. I thought Pia was the worst Miss Universe but Catriona is even worse. Her boring reign proves her undeserved win. Only Chavit who has spent tons of money on hosting Miss Universe (even when the pageant was held in a foreign country like Thailand) would give her jobs. Otherwise, noone would book her ;/))

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:03 am
by sissymeow
Again, Its always about the QUALITY of the work and not about the number of countries those useless queens visited, yes im referrring to the classless MGI and useless Supra winners. and Hello, Catriona has 6 MILLION FOLLOWERS on Instagram. No one from other pageants can ever reach that number. Let us all ignore those bashers coz they will feel powerful when we take their bait. And again, Indonesian pageant fans are the WORST in the world. I pity those Indonesian Gays living in fear and prejudice.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:18 am
by hauteegirl
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:Catriona is the worst Miss Universe ever. She has been jobless and fading compared to reigning queens like Vanessa and Ponkan. I thought Pia was the worst Miss Universe but Catriona is even worse. Her boring reign proves her undeserved win. Only Chavit who has spent tons of money on hosting Miss Universe (even when the pageant was held in a foreign country like Thailand) would give her jobs. Otherwise, noone would book her ;/))



ows???? her google search exceeds Olivia Culpo. =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:31 am
by IceCream.12
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:Catriona is the worst Miss Universe ever. She has been jobless and fading compared to reigning queens like Vanessa and Ponkan. I thought Pia was the worst Miss Universe but Catriona is even worse. Her boring reign proves her undeserved win. Only Chavit who has spent tons of money on hosting Miss Universe (even when the pageant was held in a foreign country like Thailand) would give her jobs. Otherwise, noone would book her ;/))


I can feel your Sadness.

Re: Opinion: Why Do Some Quarters Diminish Catriona’s Reign?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:52 am
by MISSUNIVERSEFANS
TheGenuineBeauty wrote:
Miss Universe Initiatives: The Miss Universe Organization places priority on the importance of getting involved and giving back by providing a dedicated international platform of charitable partnerships. As leaders and role models within their communities, our contestants and titleholders work to affect positive change through volunteering, fundraising and advocacy. During their reign, our winners are given the tools to personally and professionally enrich others by dedicating themselves to raising awareness and much needed funds for philanthropic endeavors.

What does the Miss Universe, Miss USA and Miss Teen USA do after they are crowned?: After a winner is crowned, she is relocated to New York City where she will meet her new Miss Universe family. Through the organization, the winner is provided a platform for possibility based on her objectives for the year. Alongside The Miss Universe Organization, she will plan how to achieve her goals on the national and global scale.


Charity Related Things Catriona Has Done So Far

June 27th, 2019 which was HIV Testing Day. From what it looks like she gave a speech, made a video in association with amfAR, and got herself tested for HIV.
June 21st, 2019 which was Make Music Day and made a video for Education Through Music.
June 7, 2019 she mentions that she's starting to work with the United Nations Population Fund Philippines
May 22nd, 2019 participated in an event for Latino Commission of AIDS, which named her "godmother"
May 20th, 2019 she participated in the AIDS walk in New York
May 17th, 2019 was part of the 29th Anniversary of Apicha, another HIV/AIDS organization
April 25th, 2019 visited GMHC.
March 28th, 2019 attended an event for the celebration of the 30th anniversary of Best Buddies
February 27th, 2019 was part of a Smile Train event.
February 27th, 2019 she visited one of her favorite charities Young Focus in the Philippines

Countries Catriona Has Visited So Far and the Reasons

1. USA (MUO's home base and where she'll live during her reign)
2. Philippines (Homecoming and Binibining Pilipinas)
3. Indonesia (Part of Puteri Indonesia)
4. Thailand (Part of Miss Universe Thailand)
5 Dominican Republic coming soon (For Miss Dominican Republic)

Everything else has been fashion and/or media related. Keep in mind this is from what I have found on Miss Universe's Facebook and IG and also on Catriona's IG. I could have missed some events or posts. But the important thing is that Miss Universe like to claim that they are more than just beauty, but at the end of the day, they only work with a handful of charities and are mostly focused on fashion and media relations, which is what Miss Universe has been all this time. I am still upset at that time when Hurricane Maria struck Puerto Rico, and they were too busy at New York Fashion Week to even help (and that wasn't during Catriona's reign)

Long story short, don't blame Catriona, blame IMG and the organization, who like to say that they are more than just beauty and care about the initiatives, but at the same time most of the queens' reigns are spent doing photoshoots, going on fashion shows and promoting their sponsors (like CHI) If you actually care about philanthropy and charity then actually do some charity instead of the same organizations over and over again. If you want to be just a beauty pageant and nothing else, then stop asking representatives for resumes and advocacies if they are mostly doing to be doing model related things. Practice what you preach, just saying.


Catriona also went to Toronto in March.

Miss Universe Catriona Gray helped raised some US$6,000 (roughly P300,000) for abused Filipino children during a short-noticed fund-raising event in Canada recently.

Gray thanked all those who supported the charity event for Bantay Bata 163, an organization that provides a multitude of social services for the children of the Philippines, such as a help hotline, medical assistance, feeding programs, and educational scholarships.

“Maraming salamat po to everyone who supported the Bantay Bata organisation this past weekend in Toronto, Canada!” Gray said on Instagram.

She added: “Big thank you to the members of @pidc.toronto who pulled together this event on such short notice! The total amount of $6000 raised from this intimate dinner will go towards serving and protecting our countries children.”


https://entertainment.mb.com.ph/2019/03/27/miss-universe-catriona-gray-raises-funds-for-abused-filipino-kids/