krissynelli wrote:CATRIONA GRAY IS AN "ALPHA FEMALE"; THE OTHER GIRL IS NOT. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
KMAIr wrote:Deborah was dry
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DAVID: GOD OF ALL GODS wrote:DEBORAH HENRY CLAPPED BECAUSE OF POLITICS PLAYED BY TRUMP. IF DEBORAH COMPETED IN THE IMG ERA, I'M PRETTY SURE SHE'LL LAND IN THE TOP 3. IT WAS ALL POLITICS IN MY OWN OPINION. DO YOU REALLY THINK LEILA LOPES PERFORMED THE BEST DURING THE CORONATION NIGHT? OR PRISCILLA MACHADO OVER SHAMCEY?
Nina Cleopatra wrote:Politics. Obviously this destroyed Henry's chances. Catriona's win was a transaction between Chavit Singnon and the MUO.
panchopolo wrote:First off, I never heard of the "Asian MW Curse" being discussed about Catriona this year; she was the universal favorite for the crown from the get-go. Secondly, Shamcey was never an underdog--to the contrary, she was one of those expected to place well.
Comparing Deborah and Catriona is like pitting apples with oranges. There is nothing similar in their their personalities and packaging, except for their being former Miss World participants. That should not be taken as parameter in assessing why one won and the other didn't.
Juan Sebastian wrote:DAVID: GOD OF ALL GODS wrote:DEBORAH HENRY CLAPPED BECAUSE OF POLITICS PLAYED BY TRUMP. IF DEBORAH COMPETED IN THE IMG ERA, I'M PRETTY SURE SHE'LL LAND IN THE TOP 3. IT WAS ALL POLITICS IN MY OWN OPINION. DO YOU REALLY THINK LEILA LOPES PERFORMED THE BEST DURING THE CORONATION NIGHT? OR PRISCILLA MACHADO OVER SHAMCEY?Exactly, if politics were not involved and Trump did not need to include girls like Brazil & Portugal along with other political picks, she would have made it. IMO, Miss Universe 2011 was not one of the strongest batches in history and Deborah was absolutely among the top girls so I blame her clapping on politics
Nina Cleopatra wrote:Politics. Obviously this destroyed Henry's chances. Catriona's win was a transaction between Chavit Singnon and the MUO.
ajsy0203 wrote:Juan Sebastian wrote:DAVID: GOD OF ALL GODS wrote:DEBORAH HENRY CLAPPED BECAUSE OF POLITICS PLAYED BY TRUMP. IF DEBORAH COMPETED IN THE IMG ERA, I'M PRETTY SURE SHE'LL LAND IN THE TOP 3. IT WAS ALL POLITICS IN MY OWN OPINION. DO YOU REALLY THINK LEILA LOPES PERFORMED THE BEST DURING THE CORONATION NIGHT? OR PRISCILLA MACHADO OVER SHAMCEY?Exactly, if politics were not involved and Trump did not need to include girls like Brazil & Portugal along with other political picks, she would have made it. IMO, Miss Universe 2011 was not one of the strongest batches in history and Deborah was absolutely among the top girls so I blame her clapping on politics
I could possible agree with that but in my thread I set aside Trump/IMG factor and just based only their merits. Reminder that Mr. Trump did not attend the 2011 pageant yet possibly influenced his choice or Madam Paula in choosing the semifinalists.
Muckraker wrote:Deborah Henry as well as other half-breed Malaysians didn't make the cut as they were not properly trained. No beauty camp or beauty house to groom them. Also, they have attitude and personality superiority. Back at home, they were like demigods as blessed with foreign blood compared to local Muslim or ethnic Chinese girls. But they should have left their airs and graces back home when they competed in the international arena. Did you also know that Deborah's parents were seen and heard arguing during the prelims? Staffers at Miss U knew about this. They just don't know how to put their best foot forward and keep up with the protocol........InTheKnow.
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