WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?





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WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby HARVIN » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:11 pm

    

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TOP 10 - She survived in the continental thing and she is the best performer from Europe region. :-O

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Unplaced despite of her celebrity popularity status. @-). Why? She has a backstory to tell etc. Most of the placers from Europe region were so average performer and meh beauties. @-)


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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby mvgc » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:15 pm

Sofia has better communications skills than angela ; And del prado at least has a decent english level ; angela had only a strong story but she is weak when it comes down to communications habilities
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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby Juan Sebastian » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:18 pm

In terms of overall frame, Sofia was better, she had a solid walk, body and great communication skills. She was a shoo-in for Europe that year.

Angela had a great story but yeah like mvgc said she was not the best speaker in the world, I do think Angela was definitely one of the 5 best from Europe though considering how weak that group was.
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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby bloomfield » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:29 pm

They’re both pretty though ........
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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby HARVIN » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:29 pm

mvgc wrote:Sofia has better communications skills than angela ; And del prado at least has a decent english level ; angela had only a strong story but she is weak when it comes down to communications habilities


I dont think communication skills is hindrance for Angela. She came from a weak group with out of this world backstory but still unplaced. @-) Look at Miss Vietnam , she cannot even express herself directly to the judges but instead she uses her common poverty backstory to impress them and boom she survived from the most competitive region. >:)
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Postby pitbull » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:36 pm

I have said this before and I am going to say it again, story doesn't sell, the deliverance and personality (confidence) is what seals the deal.

Sofia was the best from Europe that year and she has excellent communication skills (bubbly)... on the other hand, Angela had the story, she just didn't have the communication skills (I felt her tense and demured on the last couple of days).


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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby Oscillate » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:31 pm

I do not think that Angela's communication skills is really that bad, especially if we compare it to the ladies who made the cut from that region.

I have a feeling IMG planned this all along. They wanted Angela's participation to create more impact - therefore they dedicated a special moment for her during the show. You can not have the same impact if she just made the cut and eventually be shut down from the top 10.
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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby Queen Kurdapia » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:58 pm

ANGELO PONCE IS SIMPLY A BOY IN A DRESS!
END OF STORY!




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TOP 10 - She survived in the continental thing and she is the best performer from Europe region. :-O

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Unplaced despite of her celebrity popularity status. @-). Why? She has a backstory to tell etc. Most of the placers from Europe region were so average performer and meh beauties. @-)
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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby Maanjit_Xia » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:39 pm

She wasn’t pretty nor sexy enough.
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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby Pageantholic » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:10 am

To be very honest, I can only surmise that her non-placement is because of her being trans. Europe's group was weak last year and she could easily inched her way into the top 5 if we based it on performance and backstory. I think Miss Universe and the judges (an all-women group), might still be wrestling with the idea of putting a trans over naturally-born women. Miss Universe is still new to having a trans and it might take a while before this could go mainstream.
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Postby bcdf1930 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:34 am

SHE MIGHT HAVE FAILED TO MAKE THE CUT, BUT SHE WON HEARTS :)>- :-* :-* :-*
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Postby babiho » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:05 am

Img allowed trans only for media and popularity.
Aangela didn’t placed is a massage to all countries and ND : Enough once trans in Miss Universe stage, there is no second ‘’special moment’’ anymore and there is no place in the semi for any of trans in Miss Universe.
To the country who’s plan to send trans again be ready because your boy Will be ignored again doesn’t matter how beautiful she/he is and how smart she/ he is.
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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby Sybarite » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:54 am

She lost because the reason was so obvious why she was chosen to represent Spain instead of the more deserving Andrea De Las Heras. They chose controversy over the chance to win. No hate but let us be honest, She still looks like a Drag Queen.
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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby sarahmarrow » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:43 pm

Queen Kurdapia wrote:ANGELO PONCE IS SIMPLY A BOY IN A DRESS!
END OF STORY!




CORRECT! THAT IS THE ONLY REASON.

LISTEN TO HIS VOICE DURING EUROPE's INTRO.
ANGELO HAS A MASCULINE VOICE AMONG ALL OTHER EUROPEAN DELIGATES.
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Postby sarahmarrow » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:48 pm

Sybarite wrote:She lost because the reason was so obvious why she was chosen to represent Spain instead of the more deserving Andrea De Las Heras. They chose controversy over the chance to win. No hate but let us be honest, She still looks like a Drag Queen.


I AGREE WITH YOU!
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Postby sarahmarrow » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:50 pm

bcdf1930 wrote:SHE MIGHT HAVE FAILED TO MAKE THE CUT, BUT SHE WON HEARTS :)>- :-* :-* :-*


NOPE! I GUESS NOT.

MUO DID THIS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE SOME NOISE AND BE IN THE NEWS
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Postby fortela » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:55 pm

SHE LOOKED MASCULINE STILL IN SOME ANGLES
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Postby atlantic star » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:40 pm

because he is a tranny and it will be an outrage. [-X [-X [-X
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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby AaronICK » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:48 am

HARVIN wrote:
mvgc wrote:Sofia has better communications skills than angela ; And del prado at least has a decent english level ; angela had only a strong story but she is weak when it comes down to communications habilities


I dont think communication skills is hindrance for Angela. She came from a weak group with out of this world backstory but still unplaced. @-) Look at Miss Vietnam , she cannot even express herself directly to the judges but instead she uses her common poverty backstory to impress them and boom she survived from the most competitive region. >:)


Miss Vietnam, although she has a compelling backstory, went straight to top 5 because of her own merit. I think even without her backstory, she will still place higher because she's a performer.
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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby poker_man » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:08 am

IMG just used Angela Ponce for the ratings. Nothing else! There's no way they would make her place over other deserving candidates. This is pretty much IMG's strategy, they get the best stories for the ratings and use it for the telecast.

Remember Sarah Idan Miss Iraq 2017? They just hyped her participation but they never considered her placement. They also had a special video tribute to her participation. The same for Ariana Miyamoto, Miss Japan 2015. To be honest, Ariana was one of the worst delegates but she obviously placed because she had a very dramatic background and she was the most controversial Japanese delegate due to her ancestry.

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Re: WHY ANGELA PONCE FAILED BUT SOFIA DEL PRADO MADE IT?

Postby kurtij » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:08 am

IT ONLY MEANS THAT, THEY DO NOT REALLY WANT TRANSGENDER TO INFEST THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT.
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Postby TheLochnbar » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:34 am

HE IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A MAN. ACCEPT IT OR NOT MUO WILL NEVER CROWN A TRANSGENDER THAT WILL BE A BIGGEST INSULT TO WOMANHOOD. ANGELA MAY BE QUALIFIED TO JOIN BUT TO PREVENT HER IN GOING FURTHER IN THE COMPETITION THEY WILL NEVER LET HER IN THE SEMIFINALS HENCE MUO GIVES HER A SPECIAL MOMENTS IN THE FINALS.
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Postby sarahmarrow » Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:14 am

TheLochnbar wrote:HE IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A MAN. ACCEPT IT OR NOT MUO WILL NEVER CROWN A TRANSGENDER THAT WILL BE A BIGGEST INSULT TO WOMANHOOD. ANGELA MAY BE QUALIFIED TO JOIN BUT TO PREVENT HER IN GOING FURTHER IN THE COMPETITION THEY WILL NEVER LET HER IN THE SEMIFINALS HENCE MUO GIVES HER A SPECIAL MOMENTS IN THE FINALS.


Correct! Very well said.
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