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Postby LuigiAvila1985 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:02 am

    









Osmel Sousa already spoke up!!!



This is now a huge scandal in México


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Postby hauteegirl » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:08 am

that trans has mental problem
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Postby LuigiAvila1985 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:12 am

Lupita Jones may lose Miss Universe franchise after this huge scandal



Good bye Classification for Mexico in Miss Universe 2018 :%((
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Postby firerprince » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:27 am

Can someone translate all of these videos most importantly the part where Lupita said something about transgenders. Why did the trans committed suicide exactly? Damn big issue indeed @-)
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Postby keyss » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:41 am

hauteegirl wrote:that trans has mental problem


According to old and recent studies, they all do! But instead of addressing and treating these problems the right way, people are forced to aid their delusions. And so we now have men in drag competing in Miss Universe. These people need help and support not lies told to their face. :(
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Postby MariaAndreina » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:07 am

This is just very sad, and i dont even know what to think. :|
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Re: TRANSGENDER COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER LUPITA JONES CLAIMS

Postby nycla2 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:42 am

I dont get why there is so much hatred towards trans when they are also people omg u all want equality and respect yet u guys bully trans people esp the lgbt community, its sad, just let them do their thing, let them join pageants. My God its 2018!!
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Postby cabra_chupa » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:48 am

THIS IS ALL DONALD TRUMP'S FAULT! WHAT A MESS! @-) @-) @-)
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Re: TRANSGENDER COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER LUPITA JONES CLAIMS

Postby Paquita Banana » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:51 am

Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness .
Before anybody is allowed to have gender reassignment surgery ...they need to see a psychiatrist first to see if they have gender dysphoria .
The reason is because gender reassignment surgery is irreversible.
If someone becomes attracted to females again... they cannot put the penis back .
They are making sure that everyone deciding to have gender reassignment are fully committed to be females .

So essentially... you have to be mentally ill and have gender dysphoria to be able to have gender reassignment surgery .
People with gender dysphoria will kill themselves if they wil not undergo gender reassignment surgery.
The question usually asked to them ... Will you hurt or kill yourself if you will not have gender reassignment surgery ? If they say yes .. they will be allowed to have surgery .
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Postby Paquita Banana » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:55 am

What people here have been saying about trans people is all true .
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness.
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Postby Paquita Banana » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:58 am

Trans people were suicidal before their surgery .
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Postby nycla2 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:04 am

Paquita being trans is not a mental illness, YOU are the one who has mental illness (obviously) and needs help asap. Transphobia is a mental illness :D/
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Re: TRANSGENDER COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER LUPITA JONES CLAIMS

Postby Paquita Banana » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:15 am

In the medico legal point of view ... Lupita Jones is not liable .
Trans people were suicidal before and barring them to join pageants may have just contributed to the recurrence of their suicidal ideation.

They are already suicidal in the first place and Lupita Jones had nothing to do with it .
Lupita Jones may have contributed to the RECURRENCE of suicidal thought .
There’s a difference.
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Postby Paquita Banana » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:29 am

And committing suicide just because you’re not allowed to join a pageant ? That in itself is a sign of mental illness.
That person is a poor soul and could have been saved if was seen by a medical doctor .
There might have been other factors that contributed to that person’s depression.
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Postby nycla2 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:33 am

WHY GENERALIZE ALL TRANS ARE SUICIDAL? 8-}


OBVIOUSLY PAQUITA BANANA IS THE ONE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS, I MEAN WE ALL KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOU PRESENT YOURSELF YOU NEED HELP ASAP
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Postby valleriam » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:34 am

This is such a sad situation that could hinder Miss Mexico's chances very badly.

While I don't agree with Lupita's opinion, nor do I like her attitude, I also don't think it's fair to blame her for this girl's suicide. That is just completely irresponsible and the media is milking this to the max, which is absolutely repulsive! I don't think being trans is a mental illness, but this girl that committed suicide clearly had some other issues that were deeper than just Lupita's comments. I could see how her comments might triggered something in her, but that doesn't mean she is the one to blame.
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Postby nycla2 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:39 am

valleriam wrote:This is such a sad situation that could hinder Miss Mexico's chances very badly.

While I don't agree with Lupita's opinion, nor do I like her attitude, I also don't think it's fair to blame her for this girl's suicide. That is just completely irresponsible and the media is milking this to the max, which is absolutely repulsive! I don't think being trans is a mental illness, but this girl that committed suicide clearly had some other issues that were deeper than just Lupita's comments. I could see how her comments might triggered something in her, but that doesn't mean she is the one to blame.


this is getting out of hand already its sad!
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Postby Paquita Banana » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:39 am

Suicide is hopelessness .
And it’s multifactorial .
And you feel alone with no one to turn to .
Again this person is a poor soul and could have been saved .
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Re: TRANSGENDER COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER LUPITA JONES CLAIMS

Postby chorr » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:02 am

To all horribly stupid and bigoted people saying being a trans is a disease:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 717758002/

I am very sorry for a life that's lost and while it isnt Lupita's fault, the world and all of us could use a little more compassion and humanity in us.

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Postby Paquita Banana » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:40 am

What many don’t realize is that the main indication of doing gender reassignment surgery is to prevent people from committing suicide.
So everyone wanting to have surgery must first have a psychiatric evaluation and that they must be absolutely sure of wanting to be female because gender reassignment surgery is irreversible.
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Re: TRANSGENDER COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER LUPITA JONES CLAIMS

Postby manoypoe » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:46 am

Paquita Banana wrote:In the medico legal point of view ... Lupita Jones is not liable .
Trans people were suicidal before and barring them to join pageants may have just contributed to the recurrence of their suicidal ideation.

They are already suicidal in the first place and Lupita Jones had nothing to do with it .
Lupita Jones may have contributed to the RECURRENCE of suicidal thought .
There’s a difference.


WE ARE NOW SEEING THE LIGHT. IT IS INDEED A MENTAL ILLNESS. WHY COMMIT SUICIDE IN THE FIRST PLACE IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH THE OPINION OF OTHERS. AND THEN BLAME THE ONE WHO GIVE HER OPINION EVEN IF SHE IS SPEAKING IN GENERAL. BLAMING LUPITA FOR WHATEVER THIS TRANS HAS COMMITTED IS ALSO A BIG MENTAL PROBLEM. =O/ =O/
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Postby Paquita Banana » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:49 am

Someone already mentioned in another thread that even though they do screening... there are trans people that are reverting back having sexual relations /desires to women .
Same thing can be said with suicidal ideation...even though they had surgery, they can have suicidal thoughts still because it’s multifactorial ... can have many causes like relationships , financial problems etc


This news makes me so sad .
Because I have a classmate in college who underwent gender reassignment surgery .
He’s rich and have a successful business .
I asked him questions and he answered it honestly .
Hard to explain ...because we just read these stuff .. about suicide thoughts etc ..this news makes you realize what you read is all true .
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Re: TRANSGENDER COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER LUPITA JONES CLAIMS

Postby lucy » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:48 am

NOT LUPITA'S FAULT IN MY OPINION, IT'S HERS BECAUSE SHE CAN'T ACCEPT CRITICISM! :)>-
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Postby abid » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:50 am

Good choice. Hope more transgender will follow her soon. Stupid people. They have given so much freedom, recognition...but but not joining female pageants ok.
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Postby bheaian » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:55 am

Societies, cultures and norms are continuously changing and evolving, but God and His Word and the Spirit in the Word remain UNCHANGED. When God specifically forbade homosexual activity and other sexual immorality, it wasn’t because He was unenlightened, naïve, or intolerant. The law was given because people had strayed from His original purpose and blessing. What was immoral by God’s standards then has not become moral today just because the majority tolerates and accepts it.
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Postby The Duchess » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:28 am

Why do people keep thinking your gender identity has something to do with your sexual orientation? There's trans women who are attracted to other women and trans men who are attracted to other men. Or both. Who you are is separate from who you are attracted to. Also not all trangenders are suicidal and that is a dangerous generalization, as is the assumption that all trans are just gay guys. Also, suicidal people are a lot of straights, gays and bis around the world and they are allowed to leave their true life. It is so easy to learn from the people who the LGBT+ community has so much to thank for.

Its also ridiculous and false to say the majority of trans are detransitioning, that is simply not true.

Or for that matter, that the only way to sexually please a woman is with a penis and/or penetration?
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Postby The Duchess » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:30 am

bheaian wrote:Societies, cultures and norms are continuously changing and evolving, but God and His Word and the Spirit in the Word remain UNCHANGED. When God specifically forbade homosexual activity and other sexual immorality, it wasn’t because He was unenlightened, naïve, or intolerant. The law was given because people had strayed from His original purpose and blessing. What was immoral by God’s standards then has not become moral today just because the majority tolerates and accepts it.


Religion cannot be used as the law which is why plenty countries have separation of church and state
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Postby The Duchess » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:36 am

When you work with enough people who are suicidal you will know in this particular case is not Lupita's fault. And while she may think it was because of what Lupita said, it's because she has probably been bullied, harrased and denied her identity all of her life. This was perhaps just the catalyst, perhaps she had already planned it. We don't know. Human beings just have an affinity to judge and believe the way they live is the only correct one. You have never walked a mile in someone else's shoes, none of us has, I'm afraid we dont get to say things like this. Suicide is another subject in which people think they ar experts yet know nothing about it.
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Re: TRANSGENDER COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER LUPITA JONES CLAIMS

Postby mrgary » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:03 pm

Why would you, guys, blame Lupita for the suicide of this guy? That is absurd. As what I've said before and I say this again, transgenders are more prone to committing suicide than others because they are already confused to begin with. Instead of addressing the issue, these doctors apply "band aid" by subjecting these kids to sex change surgeries. These surgeries aren't covered by insurance companies which means that having a client or two a day for "gender reassignment surgeries" will definitely bring a lot of moolah on the surgeon's table. Thus, they will definitely add fuel to a kid's wrong decision to have a sex change. What is good for the goose is good for the gander, so to speak. Gender is not malleable. A man cannot be a woman and a woman cannot be a man, either. God fashioned it this way. This is what I've been saying repeatedly: Transgenderism is not the answer. Having a sex change will not fulfill your wildest dreams of feeling like a complete woman. It will not give you hope. The only seed of hope is our Almighty Creator. There is nothing wrong in calling the Creator for help. If you have a hard time praying and seeking for divine help, then go seek a psychotherapist to help you in addressing your inner turmoil. Get everyone involved but do not mutilate yourself by changing your sex because once that happens, there is no turning back.
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Re: TRANSGENDER COMMITTED SUICIDE AFTER LUPITA JONES CLAIMS

Postby mrgary » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:15 pm

bheaian wrote:Societies, cultures and norms are continuously changing and evolving, but God and His Word and the Spirit in the Word remain UNCHANGED. When God specifically forbade homosexual activity and other sexual immorality, it wasn’t because He was unenlightened, naïve, or intolerant. The law was given because people had strayed from His original purpose and blessing. What was immoral by God’s standards then has not become moral today just because the majority tolerates and accepts it.


B U L L S E Y E ! As what I've said before, our body is the temple of God. Why desecrate it through sex change?! If a man cannot respect his own self, his own body and the Creator who gave him that body in the image and likeness of Him, and cuts his own penis to live like a woman, how can he expect to be respected by others?
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