13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

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13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby HARVIN » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:44 am

    

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10 of them won in US soil and the remaining 3 won in the country which is closest allies of US. :%)) :%)) :%))

Is it unfair or fair?


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1954 Miriam Stevenson - won in Long Beach California


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1956 Carol Morris - won in Long Beach California

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1960 Linda Bement - won in Miami Beach Florida

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1967 - Sylvia Hitchcock won in Miami Beach Florida

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1970 - Marisol Malaret - won in Miami Beach Florida

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1980 - Shawn Weatherly - won in Seoul South Korea- SK is one of the closest allies of United States. Without US, SK would be nobody today and they still need US for their survival as an independent state. NK might invade SK anytime soon if US leaves the border. >:)

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1985 - Debborah Carthy Deau - won in Miami Florida

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1993 - Dayanara Torres - won in Mexico ( the closest border of USA ) :%)) Mexico is also one of the closest allies of USA after UK, Canada, Israel and South Korea. >:) >:)

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1995 - Chelsi Smith - won in Namibia ( US Namibia relationship is good especially the HIV government awareness projects of both countries. US help Namibia to gain their independence from South Africa. >:)

Chelsi won because of her Afro American background. One of the worst edition. >:)

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1997 - Brooke Lee - won in Miami Beach Florida

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2001 - Denise Quinones - won in US soil territory. :%))

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2006 - Zuleyka Rivera - won in Los Angeles California

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2012 - Olivia Culpo - won in Las Vegas, Nevada

>:) >:) >:) >:)

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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby missofan705 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:07 am

To be fair, I love DAYANARA, BROOK and OLIVIA. :hx
CHELSI was strong during Miss Universe but I could've had ALI LANDRY winning Miss Universe in her home country in Las Vegas the year later compared to Chelsi.

Not a fan of the earlier American and Puerto Rican winners just because I didn't know much from them. Maybe Sylvia Hitchcock (RIP) was a phenomenal Miss Universe in the 60's.
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby Missus » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:16 am

Fair. Most of our girls were stunning and eloquent, hence deserving. Only 8 out of 66 Miss Universe titleholders were from the US.

Meanwhile, 4 out of 17 of Miss Earth titleholders were Filipinos, 3 of them were even crowned in your own soil. Your biased pageant crowns your own girl in your own country 25% of the time. Sit the f*ck down.
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby HARVIN » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:22 am

missofan705 wrote:To be fair, I love DAYANARA, BROOK and OLIVIA. :hx
CHELSI was strong during Miss Universe but I could've had ALI LANDRY winning Miss Universe in her home country in Las Vegas the year later compared to Chelsi.

Not a fan of the earlier American and Puerto Rican winners just because I didn't know much from them. Maybe Sylvia Hitchcock (RIP) was a phenomenal Miss Universe in the 60's.


The super gorgeous Milka Chulina which is the obvious winner of that edition since the start of the competition should have won that night. She was robbed to death. =O/ =O/ =O/

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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby Jaishee » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:02 am

Missus wrote:Fair. Most of our girls were stunning and eloquent, hence deserving. Only 8 out of 66 Miss Universe titleholders were from the US.

Meanwhile, 4 out of 17 of Miss Earth titleholders were Filipinos, 3 of them were even crowned in your own soil. Your biased pageant crowns your own girl in your own country 25% of the time. Sit the f*ck down.


Bitch, at least our 4 winners slayed the final Question and Answer.
How about Olivia in 2012 though ;/))
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby missofan705 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:03 am

HARVIN wrote:
missofan705 wrote:To be fair, I love DAYANARA, BROOK and OLIVIA. :hx
CHELSI was strong during Miss Universe but I could've had ALI LANDRY winning Miss Universe in her home country in Las Vegas the year later compared to Chelsi.

Not a fan of the earlier American and Puerto Rican winners just because I didn't know much from them. Maybe Sylvia Hitchcock (RIP) was a phenomenal Miss Universe in the 60's.


The super gorgeous Milka Chulina which is the obvious winner of that edition since the start of the competition should have won that night. She was robbed to death. =O/ =O/ =O/

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Yes I know, I know. Milka was my winner in 1993 as well. BUT, Dayanara proved so much during and even after her Miss Universe reign, regardless on what country or territory she came from. :)>-

Marisol Malaret, Shawn Weatherly and Deborah Carthy are my least favorite winners from both USA and PR. Zuleyka just had an amazing performance that night but an underwhelming titleholder. Zuleyka is the total opposite of Dayanara for me.
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby quelab22 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:44 pm

missofan705 wrote:To be fair, I love DAYANARA, BROOK and OLIVIA. :hx
CHELSI was strong during Miss Universe but I could've had ALI LANDRY winning Miss Universe in her home country in Las Vegas the year later compared to Chelsi.

Not a fan of the earlier American and Puerto Rican winners just because I didn't know much from them. Maybe Sylvia Hitchcock (RIP) was a phenomenal Miss Universe in the 60's.


Alicia is really gorgeous, but yes Ali is a good alternate if Chelsi was not crowned 1995 Miss Universe
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby bcdf1930 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:46 pm

WHY ARE YOU INCLUDING PR WINNERS IN YOUR LIST IF THE THREAD IS REGARDING WINNERS FROM USA? :)>- :|
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby gemsparks » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:30 pm

1954 - USA is beautiful and deserving but it could have been Brazil that year when the judges had to break the tie based only on physical figure. Stevenson had the fitter hips compared to Brazil thus the jury awarding the title to USA. If only someone from the jury had came up with an idea of a tie breaking question.

1956 - Deserving.

1960 - Should have been 1st runner-up Miss Italy Daniela Bianchi who later went on to become a Bond Girl

1967 - Beautiful, smart and deserving

1970 - She was cute back then

1980 - Deserving

1985 - Fugly

1993 - Absolutely deserving. One of my fave Miss Universe

1995 - Bland, pageant patty, uninteresting. If only her 1st runner up Manpreet Brar had the facial beauty of Celina Jaitley or Diya Mirza, India would have captured their first back to back Miss Universe title. Wish Chelsi and Ali Landry's reign had been swapped. I would have preferred Ali winning it in Namibia. After Chelsi's reign,nothing special happened to her career.

1997 - Love her or hate her,Brooke is deserving. Very spontaneous, charming, witty ,talented and her smile and sunny disposition is like a bright morning sun of tropical Hawaii. She oozes energy and optimism.

2001 - Deserving. Never get the hyped about Greece

2006 - Not a fan of her facial beauty which resembles a little bit like Michael "Wacko Jacko" Jackson. I thought she was a trans.

2012 - I thought her performance was boring and lifeless on stage. She didn't have a powerful walk but her face is undeniably an absolute perfection. If only Venezuela didn't answer in English
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby sleuth08 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:56 pm

OF COURSE IT IS UNFAIR

BUT OF COURSE MISS UNIVERSE FANS WILL TURN A BLIND EYE ON THIS FACT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS MISS UNIVERSE
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby sleuth08 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:59 pm

Missus wrote:Fair. Most of our girls were stunning and eloquent, hence deserving. Only 8 out of 66 Miss Universe titleholders were from the US.

Meanwhile, 4 out of 17 of Miss Earth titleholders were Filipinos, 3 of them were even crowned in your own soil. Your biased pageant crowns your own girl in your own country 25% of the time. Sit the f*ck down.


YOU ARE COMPARING 66 YEARS OF MISS UNIVERSE VERSUS 17 YEARS OF MISS EARTH?

FYI IN THE FIRST 17 YEARS OF MISS UNIVERSE, 4 TITLEHOLDERS ARE USA AND ALL OF THEM ARE CROWNED IN US SOIL - SO WHO IS THE BIAS PAGEANT NOW?

ANOTHER FYI. IN THE FIRST 17 YEARS OF MISS UNIVERSE USA ALWAYS PLACE WHILE PHILIPPINES MISSED THE CUT 3 TIMES IN MISS EARTH - SO WHO IS THE BIAS PAGEANT NOW?
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby brent520 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:30 pm

Now that facts and numbers are staring at you. People still have something to say.

Please note it is very difficult to dispute with facts

You’ve just been burned
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby Oscillate » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:35 pm

sleuth08 wrote:
Missus wrote:Fair. Most of our girls were stunning and eloquent, hence deserving. Only 8 out of 66 Miss Universe titleholders were from the US.

Meanwhile, 4 out of 17 of Miss Earth titleholders were Filipinos, 3 of them were even crowned in your own soil. Your biased pageant crowns your own girl in your own country 25% of the time. Sit the f*ck down.


YOU ARE COMPARING 66 YEARS OF MISS UNIVERSE VERSUS 17 YEARS OF MISS EARTH?

FYI IN THE FIRST 17 YEARS OF MISS UNIVERSE, 4 TITLEHOLDERS ARE USA AND ALL OF THEM ARE CROWNED IN US SOIL - SO WHO IS THE BIAS PAGEANT NOW?

ANOTHER FYI. IN THE FIRST 17 YEARS OF MISS UNIVERSE USA ALWAYS PLACE WHILE PHILIPPINES MISSED THE CUT 3 TIMES IN MISS EARTH - SO WHO IS THE BIAS PAGEANT NOW?


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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby fortela » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:05 pm

no matter what ms usa who become ms universe are all super gorgeous and smart...unlike ms earth. in fact current winners of ms usa are considered quite plain by American standards. there are many very tall blonde goddesses that get eliminated even just in preliminaries. these are facts. most americans don't care anyway
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby Stoichio » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:38 pm



Olivia is still the most beautiful out of this 13 but Shawn is the complete package.

I remember the ranking of GlobalBS most beautiful before, the lowest ranks were all from USA and Puerto Rico.

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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby The Duchess » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:50 pm

bcdf1930 wrote:WHY ARE YOU INCLUDING PR WINNERS IN YOUR LIST IF THE THREAD IS REGARDING WINNERS FROM USA? :)>- :|


Because people have this idea that Puerto Rico and the US have a great relationship ergo they use it to invalidate our wins at every turn.
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby Nina Cleopatra » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:22 pm

Bottom line is. Your country will never surpass neither Puerto Rico or the US in Pageants or any arena for that matter. Either together or separated! :!! :=p
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby chinchansoo » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:46 pm

And Puerto Rico is still a colony of US, still in debt, and people like you are still prosti tute. and i tenk you... Ang pangit ng baklang si Nina... .
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby Nina Cleopatra » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:04 pm

Broke? Prostitution? Somebody called Philippines?? :%))








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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby aldoteng » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:07 am

gemsparks wrote:1954 - USA is beautiful and deserving but it could have been Brazil that year when the judges had to break the tie based only on physical figure. Stevenson had the fitter hips compared to Brazil thus the jury awarding the title to USA. If only someone from the jury had came up with an idea of a tie breaking question.

1956 - Deserving.

1960 - Should have been 1st runner-up Miss Italy Daniela Bianchi who later went on to become a Bond Girl

1967 - Beautiful, smart and deserving

1970 - She was cute back then

1980 - Deserving

1985 - Fugly

1993 - Absolutely deserving. One of my fave Miss Universe

1995 - Bland, pageant patty, uninteresting. If only her 1st runner up Manpreet Brar had the facial beauty of Celina Jaitley or Diya Mirza, India would have captured their first back to back Miss Universe title. Wish Chelsi and Ali Landry's reign had been swapped. I would have preferred Ali winning it in Namibia. After Chelsi's reign,nothing special happened to her career.

1997 - Love her or hate her,Brooke is deserving. Very spontaneous, charming, witty ,talented and her smile and sunny disposition is like a bright morning sun of tropical Hawaii. She oozes energy and optimism.

2001 - Deserving. Never get the hyped about Greece

2006 - Not a fan of her facial beauty which resembles a little bit like Michael "Wacko Jacko" Jackson. I thought she was a trans.

2012 - I thought her performance was boring and lifeless on stage. She didn't have a powerful walk but her face is undeniably an absolute perfection. If only Venezuela didn't answer in English


Spot on!!
1960 and 1985 were a headscratcher. Im sure the typical lady in a gown in PR/US is better looking.
1970 and 1993 were an acquired taste but I appreciate them.
1995 was kinda scary.
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby cindy_kato » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:00 am

Nina Cleopatra wrote:Bottom line is. Your country will never surpass neither Puerto Rico or the US in Pageants or any arena for that matter. Either together or separated! :!! :=p


Bottomline is, Puerto Rico will not survive without the food stamps coming from US.

And the fact is, even if Puerto Ricans do have American passport, people from the mainland referred to them as people from the sinking island rather than an American - a third class citizen of some sort.
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby cindy_kato » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:02 am

Nina Cleopatra wrote:Broke? Prostitution? Somebody called Philippines?? :%))








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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby cindy_kato » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:03 am

Nina Cleopatra wrote:Broke? Prostitution? Somebody called Philippines?? :%))








YIKES! @-)


From the bottom of our hearts, we would like to thank you for so much interest and love you're showing to our country the Philippines.

You're definitely a fan.
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby Nina Cleopatra » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:18 am

cindy_kato wrote:
Nina Cleopatra wrote:Broke? Prostitution? Somebody called Philippines?? :%))








YIKES! @-)


From the bottom of our hearts, we would like to thank you for so much interest and love you're showing to our country the Philippines.

You're definitely a fan.



Well to your credit, the only thing you guys can definitely beat us is in White washing, Prostitution and in a Trash eating contest. No one can really beat you in those! :7 :7 :7 >=p :%))
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby BeautyBeach » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:20 am

4 MISS earth WINNERS ARE FROM philippines. UNFAIR OR FAIR? =;)) =;)) =;))
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby MISSUNIVERSEFANS » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:05 am

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gemsparks wrote:1954 - USA is beautiful and deserving but it could have been Brazil that year when the judges had to break the tie based only on physical figure. Stevenson had the fitter hips compared to Brazil thus the jury awarding the title to USA. If only someone from the jury had came up with an idea of a tie breaking question.

1956 - Deserving.

1960 - Should have been 1st runner-up Miss Italy Daniela Bianchi who later went on to become a Bond Girl

1967 - Beautiful, smart and deserving

1970 - She was cute back then

1980 - Deserving

1985 - Fugly

1993 - Absolutely deserving. One of my fave Miss Universe

1995 - Bland, pageant patty, uninteresting. If only her 1st runner up Manpreet Brar had the facial beauty of Celina Jaitley or Diya Mirza, India would have captured their first back to back Miss Universe title. Wish Chelsi and Ali Landry's reign had been swapped. I would have preferred Ali winning it in Namibia. After Chelsi's reign,nothing special happened to her career.

1997 - Love her or hate her,Brooke is deserving. Very spontaneous, charming, witty ,talented and her smile and sunny disposition is like a bright morning sun of tropical Hawaii. She oozes energy and optimism.

2001 - Deserving. Never get the hyped about Greece

2006 - Not a fan of her facial beauty which resembles a little bit like Michael "Wacko Jacko" Jackson. I thought she was a trans.

2012 - I thought her performance was boring and lifeless on stage. She didn't have a powerful walk but her face is undeniably an absolute perfection. If only Venezuela didn't answer in English


Spot on!!
1960 and 1985 were a headscratcher. Im sure the typical lady in a gown in PR/US is better looking.
1970 and 1993 were an acquired taste but I appreciate them.
1995 was kinda scary.


Chelsi literally gained so much weight, I think she had health issue back then.
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby greenleaf » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:17 am

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Missus wrote:Fair. Most of our girls were stunning and eloquent, hence deserving. Only 8 out of 66 Miss Universe titleholders were from the US.

Meanwhile, 4 out of 17 of Miss Earth titleholders were Filipinos, 3 of them were even crowned in your own soil. Your biased pageant crowns your own girl in your own country 25% of the time. Sit the f*ck down.


Bitch, at least our 4 winners slayed the final Question and Answer.
How about Olivia in 2012 though ;/))
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby HARVIN » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:28 am

Nina Cleopatra wrote:Bottom line is. Your country will never surpass neither Puerto Rico or the US in Pageants or any arena for that matter. Either together or separated! :!! :=p


Of course no one can surpass USA's record as having the most number of wins with astonishing number of 13 winners. Even Venezuela would only dreaming of surpassing it. No one can except USA. :%))

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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby greenleaf » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:46 am

sleuth08 wrote:OF COURSE IT IS UNFAIR

BUT OF COURSE MISS UNIVERSE FANS WILL TURN A BLIND EYE ON THIS FACT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS MISS UNIVERSE


MY DEAR IT ALSO HELPS THAT DURING THOSE YEARS, THERE WAS NO ONE FROM THE ORG SAT IN THE FINAL JUDGING TABLE UNLIKE MISS EARTH. =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) AND IS IT CLEAR HOW MUCH WEIGHT THE POINTS AWARDED BY MY LOLA LORRAINE? I BELIEVE THAT ANGELIA WON // IT WAS DRUMMED UP THAT SHE WAS GOING BACK TO BACK A FEW MONTHS BEFORE THE FINALS-- MIND CONDITIONING? WHY? BECAUSE THE YEAR BEFORE IT WAS STAGED IN AUSTRIA AND IT WAS a FLOP IN TERMS OF SPONSORSHIP. THUS THE VENUE AND THE FACT IN AN INTERVIEW JAMIE SAID SHE HAD TO GO THERE EARLY TO LOOK FOR SPONSORS. THE FOLLOWING YEAR THEY NEED TO SAVE--SOLUTION--ANGELIA WHO WON WITH A MEMORIZED SLOGAN.
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Re: 13 MISS UNIVERSE WINNERS ARE FROM USA. UNFAIR OR FAIR?

Postby HARVIN » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:46 am

The Duchess wrote:
bcdf1930 wrote:WHY ARE YOU INCLUDING PR WINNERS IN YOUR LIST IF THE THREAD IS REGARDING WINNERS FROM USA? :)>- :|


Because people have this idea that Puerto Rico and the US have a great relationship ergo they use it to invalidate our wins at every turn.


PR people reminds me of people from Taiwan but at least they have a leader called President while PR cannot elect a President because they are still under control of USA culturally, politically, economically and geographically. >:) >:) >:)

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