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STEP DOWN ANGELO PONCE NOW!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:13 am
by PAULO SANTANDER
THE UNIVERSE DOESN'T NEED A DRAG QUEEN WITH AN ADAM'S APPLE & A MANLY VOICE. RESIGN & BE A PORN STAR INSTEAD POR FAVOR. THAT'S WHERE YOU BELONG. :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:

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Re: STEP DOWN ANGELO PONCE NOW!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:32 am
by Beta
PAULO SANTANDER wrote:THE UNIVERSE DOESN'T NEED A DRAG QUEEN WITH AN ADAM'S APPLE & A MANLY VOICE. RESIGN & BE A PORN STAR INSTEAD POR FAVOR. THAT'S WHERE YOU BELONG. :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:49 am
by kurtij
I THINK THERE IS BETTER WAY TO HAVE YOUR CONCERN BE HEARD.


BUT YES, SHE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO COMPETE IN A NATURAL BORN WOMEN DOMINATED PAGEANTS.

IF ALLOWING HER TO COMPETE IS THEIR VIEW OF EQUALITY AND FAIRNESS, WELL, IT IS NOT EQUAL AND FAIR, AT ALL.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:20 am
by hotdog
wo soooo rude!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:59 am
by yun lang
Why is the TS so affected?
Natalo ba sya sa gay pageant by someone who looks like Angela?

I'm not a fan either, but if the Miss Universe organization is okay with it, then NO loss on my part.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:25 am
by juicy_fruit146
THIS DUDE WILL WALK THE STAGE OF Miss Universe ! RIP Miss Universe!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:40 am
by sandman84
PAULO SANTANDER wrote:THE UNIVERSE DOESN'T NEED A DRAG QUEEN WITH AN ADAM'S APPLE & A MANLY VOICE. RESIGN & BE A PORN STAR INSTEAD POR FAVOR. THAT'S WHERE YOU BELONG. :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:



PLEASE BE CIVILIZED IN YOUR ARGUMENTS.. THE ARE HIGHLY OFFENSIVE!

Re: STEP DOWN ANGELO PONCE NOW!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:48 am
by HARVIN
juicy_fruit146 wrote:
THIS DUDE WILL WALK THE STAGE OF Miss Universe ! RIP Miss Universe!
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Oh God, she's so manly. Drag looking. ~X(

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:12 am
by GloriaDiazUniverse
I am gay and I am for inclusion and diversity. But I don't think the Miss Universe Organisation should allow a transgender/transwoman to join and represent a country. This beauty pageant is ONLY for natural born women. I think there's another beauty pageant intended for trans. We can promote and support inclusion and diversity in many other ways!!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:11 am
by TopTgirl
[-X [b]STOP THE HATE! PAULO SANTANDER HATE WON'T TAKE YOU ANY FURTHER HERE ON EARTH! L-) [/b]

Re: STEP DOWN ANGELO PONCE NOW!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:40 am
by wokian2
this is my two cents on this:

I respect the inclusivity, tolerance and acceptance, but this is too much of asking. At the end of the day, Miss Universe is all about feminity. The deeper sense of feminity is something a Trans Miss Universe can never embody. Miss Universe is not all about physical characteristics that modern science can easily alter, its not assuring to install all the qualities only a biological woman can understand and provide, we are primarily looking for a role model to young girls and young women. while Pageant-fans, which are dominated by LGBT community, are secondary.

This is crossing the line. Does this mean that natural-born women can now join Transgender Pageants? They might be allowed, but what is the point? Glamour, yes. But it is difficult to represent the community and share the same advocacy in perfect-sense.

Rejection does not always equate Discrimination, I think we have to preserve the concept of "Appropriation", if "exclusivity" sounds too discriminatory. A win-win solution is to establish or promote their own causes through their own pageants. I am sure they can promote their advocacies better through a dedicated pageant for Trans, and a keep Miss Universe, a dedicated/exclusive pageant for natural-born women. It is still diverse and each has its own issues and advocacies to promote and Miss Universe is not the only channel to do so.

There is already acceptance on LGBT+ but I believe LGBT+ should still observe "Respect".
We have an ecosystem that exist not only for LGBT; so we have to be careful on not going too far and going over the line. Its not all about LGBT all the time, mind that there are people that still prefer to keep the norm and traditional, and we have to respect that, as way of giving back to the tolerance and acceptance the community now enjoys.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:15 am
by Oscillate
women competing at Miss Universe are not even bothered and disrespected, why should you?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:19 am
by esquire27
I agree! He should not be allowed to join a pageant for naturally born women. Anyone who would break a long standing tradition simply has no soul! He should know his proper place. There is a proper pageant for trans like him. =O/

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:21 am
by simonsy
HARVIN wrote:
juicy_fruit146 wrote:
THIS DUDE WILL WALK THE STAGE OF Miss Universe ! RIP Miss Universe!
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Oh God, she's so manly. Drag looking. ~X(


i'm not against trans...but if this is the one competing....eeeeewwwwwwww.... ~X( ~X( ~X(

Re: STEP DOWN ANGELO PONCE NOW!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:27 am
by wokian2
Oscillate wrote:women competing at Miss Universe are not even bothered and disrespected, why should you?


if they complain, and what? heavy bashing from LGBT community and lose her chances of winning? not a smart move especially the MUO itself allows it. So no point. But we all cannot claim they are not bothered by it. Unless you talked to them personaly about it.

Re: STEP DOWN ANGELO PONCE NOW!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:33 am
by Oscillate
wokian2 wrote:
Oscillate wrote:women competing at Miss Universe are not even bothered and disrespected, why should you?


if they complain, and what? heavy bashing from LGBT community and lose her chances of winning? not a smart move especially the MUO itself allows it. So no point. But we all cannot claim they are not bothered by it. Unless you talked to them personaly about it.


That's the point. MUO allows it. end of the story.

Re: STEP DOWN ANGELO PONCE NOW!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:06 am
by wokian2
Oscillate wrote:
wokian2 wrote:
Oscillate wrote:women competing at Miss Universe are not even bothered and disrespected, why should you?


if they complain, and what? heavy bashing from LGBT community and lose her chances of winning? not a smart move especially the MUO itself allows it. So no point. But we all cannot claim they are not bothered by it. Unless you talked to them personaly about it.


That's the point. MUO allows it. end of the story.


not exactly.. its a strategy for a contestant not to talk against it. Silence doesnt mean approval.

the point is, you CANNOT speak in behalf of the contestants and assume they are cool with it.

Then again, its clear even the pageant community and LGBT people itself is divided about this matter, and that is concerning.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:37 am
by manoypoe
wokian2 wrote:
Oscillate wrote:
wokian2 wrote:
Oscillate wrote:women competing at Miss Universe are not even bothered and disrespected, why should you?


if they complain, and what? heavy bashing from LGBT community and lose her chances of winning? not a smart move especially the MUO itself allows it. So no point. But we all cannot claim they are not bothered by it. Unless you talked to them personaly about it.


That's the point. MUO allows it. end of the story.


not exactly.. its a strategy for a contestant not to talk against it. Silence doesnt mean approval.

the point is, you CANNOT speak in behalf of the contestants and assume they are cool with it.

Then again, its clear even the pageant community and LGBT people itself is divided about this matter, and that is concerning.


OUR Q AND A QUEENS DONT EVEN AGREE IN TRANS JOINING MISS UNIVERSE COZ THEY KNOW WHERE THEY STAND. THE PROBLEM IS - LGBT SUPPORTERS DONT TOLERATE OTHER OPINIONS. YOU MUST AGREE WITH THEIR DISTORTED BELIEFS OR ELSE YOU WILL BE CALLED A HATER OR IGNORANT OR WHAT ELSE. =O/ =O/

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:04 am
by pilyangfilipina
Oscillate wrote:women competing at Miss Universe are not even bothered and disrespected, why should you?





HOW DO YOU KNOW ????????? DO YOU KNOW EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM ?????????? HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM ????????

Re: STEP DOWN ANGELO PONCE NOW!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:12 am
by pilyangfilipina
THE BIG PROBLEM IS THAT EVEN THE LGBT SUPPORTERS OF THIS " SHE MAN / TRANS WOMAN " CANNOT EVEN SIMPLY GATHER THE WHOLE LGBT COMMUNITY AROUND THE WORLD TO RALLY BEHIND THEM . AND THAT ALREADY SPEAKS VOLUMES AND LEAPS AND BOUNDS ABOUT THE CIRCUS THIS MISS/TER SPAIN IS CREATING !!!!!!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:57 am
by jm287
SHE IS CROSSING BOUNDARIES. SHE SHOULD KNOW THAT IN A WAY THAT IT IS A DISRESPECT TO NATURAL BORN WOMEN FOR A TRANSWOMAN TO WALK IN MISS UNIVERSE STAGE. WE LGBTQ SEEK FOR RESPECT FROM THE PEOPLE THEN WE SHOULD ALSO KNOW HOW TO RESPECT THEM. RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:44 pm
by prowazekii
spain dont care about her either, why should u...

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:08 pm
by mischaziz
Let the 1st runner up represent Spain in Miss Universe pageant because she is a real woman. Say no more.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:14 pm
by JaninaCruz-Vega
Im actually fine with her competing. The only downside is that she went under the knife. But well i guess some latinas do those stuffs.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:23 pm
by Jaishee
i just can't with this level of transphobia
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:25 pm
by lesham
manoypoe wrote:
wokian2 wrote:
Oscillate wrote:
wokian2 wrote:
Oscillate wrote:women competing at Miss Universe are not even bothered and disrespected, why should you?


if they complain, and what? heavy bashing from LGBT community and lose her chances of winning? not a smart move especially the MUO itself allows it. So no point. But we all cannot claim they are not bothered by it. Unless you talked to them personaly about it.


That's the point. MUO allows it. end of the story.


not exactly.. its a strategy for a contestant not to talk against it. Silence doesnt mean approval.

the point is, you CANNOT speak in behalf of the contestants and assume they are cool with it.

Then again, its clear even the pageant community and LGBT people itself is divided about this matter, and that is concerning.


OUR Q AND A QUEENS DONT EVEN AGREE IN TRANS JOINING MISS UNIVERSE COZ THEY KNOW WHERE THEY STAND. THE PROBLEM IS - LGBT SUPPORTERS DONT TOLERATE OTHER OPINIONS. YOU MUST AGREE WITH THEIR DISTORTED BELIEFS OR ELSE YOU WILL BE CALLED A HATER OR IGNORANT OR WHAT ELSE. =O/ =O/


True! True! True!

It's very hard for them to swallow some red pill. >:) >:)

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Anyway, I'm done with this politically correct world. If they disagree with my views, I don't care. If they hate me, I don't care.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:47 pm
by nob
I'm more concerned about these situations than her joining Miss Universe.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:55 pm
by fortela
Oscillate wrote:women competing at Miss Universe are not even bothered and disrespected, why should you?

of course they are bothered they are just scared to say so.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:59 pm
by fortela
my instincts tell me it is wrong for transgenders to join. it is so basic like a cat will automatically pounce on a mouse. am getting confused now and confusion breeds hatred. don't hate me am just being honest

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:07 pm
by jampol
beautiful, smart and accomplished women would not join next years. these shemales would deter sponsors an ads. judjing these in their swimwear would be ridiculous for straight men as it involves sex appeal. tras sex appeal on men? 000000000000000