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Differences: Transwoman and Natural Born Woman!

Postby micoexpress5 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:32 pm

    


This post is not to trigger fights amongst pro and against transwomen joining pageants for naturally born women, but rather cultivate understanding an important issue.If we are demanding tolerance then we should exhibit tolerance among those who have different opinions from ours. If we call someone bigot, idiot, ignorant, or uneducated because they differ in opinion with ours , that makes us a bigger bigot, bigger idiot, more ignorant and more uneducated for that matter.

To be honest if I see Miss Spain the first time and didn’t know she is a transwoman, I wouldn’t know. She looks every inch a woman to me. She is beautiful, sexy, breasts seems natural and with a very feminine voice. That is me.

I showed this video to people who are not into beauty pageants and do not understand Spanish. 2 out of 2 natural born women noticed the Adam’s Apple and voice right away and concluded she is a male. 1 out of 2 straight guys( am sure 100% :%(( ) said she is a male, noticing the Adam’s apple and voice. 2 out of 2 gays noticed the Adam’s apple, voice, movements and said she is a transwoman. :)>- :)>-

Always remember that name calling is the refuge of racists, bigots, idiots, ignorant and uneducated people. Once we start name calling we lost the battle of what we are fighting for.


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Re: Differences: Transwomen and Natural Born Women!

Postby esquire27 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:20 pm

With a very feminine voice you say? You must be joking right? He sounds like a man! Bottom line, i hope he will be the first and the last transgender to compete in Miss Universe! =O/ =/ >:<
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Postby micoexpress5 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:22 pm

esquire27 wrote:With a very feminine voice you say? You must be joking right? He sounds like a man! Bottom line, i hope he will be the first and the last transgender to compete in Miss Universe! =O/ =/ >:<


Am not joking. That’s how I hear it. :)>- my sister when she speaks Spanish, I hear a man .lol
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Postby aieleven2012 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:42 pm

Sorry I would know he used tobe a man
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Postby manoypoe » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:48 pm

HE STILL LOOKS AND SPEAKS LIKE A MAN. THERE IS A VISIBLE TRACE OF HIS MANHOOD.
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Postby fortela » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:03 pm

man. just looking at the video without it even moving
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Re: Differences: Transwomen and Natural Born Women!

Postby micoexpress5 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:49 pm

aieleven2012 wrote:Sorry I would know he used tobe a man



I wish am that observant!
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Re: Differences: Transwomen and Natural Born Women!

Postby krissynelli » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:17 pm

A SHEMALE, GAY, TRANNY, MAN, BOY, DUDE...END OF STORY! :=p =i >:)
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Postby lutosfeet » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:21 pm

krissynelli wrote:A SHEMALE, GAY, TRANNY, MAN, BOY, DUDE...END OF STORY! :=p =i >:)


Correct and some of these fags are still in denial.. @-) @-) @-)
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Postby krissynelli » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:23 pm

lutosfeet wrote:
krissynelli wrote:A SHEMALE, GAY, TRANNY, MAN, BOY, DUDE...END OF STORY! :=p =i >:)


Correct and some of these fags are still in denial.. @-) @-) @-)


AND READY TO SUCK DICK ANYTIME.... >:)
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Postby davidtbv » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:27 pm

Some females have deep voice, being a female is not just by having a high pitch voice dont be shallow
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Postby JamesCedricLim » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:38 pm

NO amount of words can change the fact that he was born MALE! Period. And changing his outside appearance doesnt make him WOMEN!
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Postby krissynelli » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:59 pm

HE CAN IMPREGNATE WOMEN (IF HE WANTS TO ;/)) )
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Postby ManMeat » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:01 pm

Endeavor and MUO would FEATURE HER on Miss Universe pageant if you hoes keep focus on her
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Hoy LALAKENG baklang nag paretoke ng hotdog at betlog wag masyadong ILUSYONADA... Lakaki kang pinanganak at lalaki ka pa ring mamatay kahit lagyan mo pa ng dalawang suso yang dibdib mo at palitan mo pa ng pekpeks yang harapan mo.

Kaya magtigil ka AGNES, wag masyadong ambisyosa at wag lokohin ang sarili... ALAM MO SA SARILI MONG LALAKE KA... aminin mo, ginamit mo yang hotdog na yan habang pinagpapantasyahan at nagbabati ka dun sa mga lalakeng crush mo nuon.

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Hayyys nakuah Mareng Charlotah, wag mo ng pinagpapansin yang Ilusyonadang Agnes na yan... Sa totoo lang eh nabubuhay ang mga yan sa HORMONES... subukan mong wag mag iniksyon yang ng 1 buwan ng hormones... babalik ang mga muscle at bigote nyan at higit sa lahat eh LALAKE ULET MGA BOSES NYAN... kalokahhhh yang mga baklang yan... MASYADONG AMBISYOSA... WALA NAMAN SA LUGAR... ewwwwwwwwwww @-) @-) @-) @-) @-) @-) @-)

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Postby micoexpress5 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:45 pm

davidtbv wrote:Some females have deep voice, being a female is not just by having a high pitch voice dont be shallow


Nobody is claiming that being a female is just having a high pitch voice. People r just describing what they hear.
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Postby alihabibi » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:55 pm

I know I belong to the LGBTQ community because I wouldn't be here in the first place if I am not one. However, I do understand that the LGBTQ community is pushing for RECOGNITION? EQUALITY and a lot more. but I think sometimes they are pushing TOO MUCH. We have to respect as well the rights of the women. Are those women comfortable as well? Gays or transwomen will always shout about they should be accepted with this and that but are they really fair or becoming selfish? I think for now we have to draw a clear line first. otherwise the world will just be a chaos. LGBTQ Community should take things really slowly. one at a time. I and I believe a lot more are not ready to see a transwoman compete in an all natural female beauty pageant. Our mind is still telling us that despite the appearance it still tells us that she was born male PERIOD. We need to put things in its proper places first and a transwoman does not belong to an all natural born female pageant or competition. PERIOD. So, Imagine if a transwoman who belong to a LGBTQ can join a Ms. Universe why not a Lesbian or Queer or Bi they all have equal rights as the transwoman in the LGBTQ. They all belong to the same group? I don't know It's so chaotic.
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Postby micoexpress5 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:40 pm

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I know I belong to the LGBTQ community because I wouldn't be here in the first place if I am not one. However, I do understand that the LGBTQ community is pushing for RECOGNITION? EQUALITY and a lot more. but I think sometimes they are pushing TOO MUCH. We have to respect as well the rights of the women. Are those women comfortable as well? Gays or transwomen will always shout about they should be accepted with this and that but are they really fair or becoming selfish? I think for now we have to draw a clear line first. otherwise the world will just be a chaos. LGBTQ Community should take things really slowly. one at a time. I and I believe a lot more are not ready to see a transwoman compete in an all natural female beauty pageant. Our mind is still telling us that despite the appearance it still tells us that she was born male PERIOD. We need to put things in its proper places first and a transwoman does not belong to an all natural born female pageant or competition. PERIOD. So, Imagine if a transwoman who belong to a LGBTQ can join a Ms. Universe why not a Lesbian or Queer or Bi they all have equal rights as the transwoman in the LGBTQ. They all belong to the same group? I don't know It's so chaotic.


Big Applause to u, this is the best comment with this post. Some people equate hate, ignorance and bigotry for not accepting transwomen to a natural born women beauty pageants, which I for one do not believe so. Every religion has its own bible to follow, every country has its laws n constitution to follow and every organization has its rules to follow. If u break a rule or law for certain people then it will be unjust for others. A good debate to change rules and laws should be done, whatever outcome should be respected.
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Postby markita » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:13 am

She's charming 8->
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Postby micoexpress5 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:28 am

markita wrote:She's charming 8->


I agree!!
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Re: Differences: Transwomen and Natural Born Women!

Postby gemsparks » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:23 am

I may not agree with trans competing sa Miss Universe pero wag naman nating bastusin o kutyain ang mga katulad nila kahit sa forum na ito. Dumadaan din sila sa depression pero tayo mismong miyembro ng LGBT ay nagdadagdag pa sa pasanin nila. Pare pareho lang tayong nasasaktan o nabubwisit ang araw pag may mga ignoranteng tao na kumukutya,nanlalait,nanunuya o nanlilibak sa kasarian natin. Sila rin mismo ang karamay natin sa usaping diskriminasyon.
Majority of pageant critics firing scathingly remarks and unleashing vilest of comments to some candidates,ironically, are not even beautiful themselves aesthetically and worst characterwise.
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Re: Differences: Transwomen and Natural Born Women!

Postby cindy_kato » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:25 am

esquire27 wrote:With a very feminine voice you say? You must be joking right? He sounds like a man! Bottom line, i hope he will be the first and the last transgender to compete in Miss Universe! =O/ =/ >:<


She has a very feminine voice as compared to Ana Girault (Mexico World 2016) and Manpreet Brar (India Universe 1995)
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Re: Differences: Transwoman and Natural Born Woman!

Postby Oscillate » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:14 am

The comments here show why it will take 100 years for the LGBT community in the Philippines to progress.

The hate and ignorance within the community are too much. #:-S #:-S #:-S
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Re: Differences: Transwoman and Natural Born Woman!

Postby Kiwi » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:14 am

micoexpress5 wrote:
If we call someone bigot, idiot, ignorant, or uneducated because they differ in opinion with ours , that makes us a bigger bigot, bigger idiot, more ignorant and more uneducated for that matter.



This is all well and good, but it's no excuse. A bigger "bigot". Wtf? What kind of respectability politics is this. It's in the same family as "reverse racism". The people who societally (READ: Not personally) oppress feeling butthurt because all of a sudden they're being called on their privilege and things are changing to give the oppressed a leg up and are treated as human beings.

ESPECIALLY, considering the hateful and inhumane rhetoric being thrown at Angela for just trying to be herself. She's breaking NO rules yet she is always being misgendered, she is always being treated less than human. And for what? So that people feel good about their cultivated beliefs.
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Re: Differences: Transwoman and Natural Born Woman!

Postby micoexpress5 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:14 pm

Kiwi wrote:
micoexpress5 wrote:
If we call someone bigot, idiot, ignorant, or uneducated because they differ in opinion with ours , that makes us a bigger bigot, bigger idiot, more ignorant and more uneducated for that matter.



This is all well and good, but it's no excuse. A bigger "bigot". Wtf? What kind of respectability politics is this. It's in the same family as "reverse racism". The people who societally (READ: Not personally) oppress feeling butthurt because all of a sudden they're being called on their privilege and things are changing to give the oppressed a leg up and are treated as human beings.

ESPECIALLY, considering the hateful and inhumane rhetoric being thrown at Angela for just trying to be herself. She's breaking NO rules yet she is always being misgendered, she is always being treated less than human. And for what? So that people feel good about their cultivated beliefs.


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Re: Differences: Transwoman and Natural Born Woman!

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