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Postby JoelR » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:31 am

    

While I try not to start arguments and pick fights I just have to say this. The whole argument of unfairness of Miss Spain competing towards natural born woman is very..... hypocritical. Is it fair for Miss Puerto, Miss Venezuela and Miss Domician Republic to place over girls who are natural beauties and have never had plastic surgery? How fair was it to Japan and other girls that Zuleyka won having multiple plastic surgeries? Same with Molly, Stefania and Dayana. Miriam Habach won best body but as we know Osmel has them get plastic surgery to prefect their body. How fair was that to girls that worked hard at the gym to get in shape? And yes Miram did go to the gym but surgery def. Gave her an advantage. Fair is fair.


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Postby HowDoYouKnow » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:42 am

Miss Spain's biggest advantage is her story, and I'm sure IMG is going to milk it for all it is worth.

She certainly doesn't have any biological advantage, however. First of all, she's not really pretty. She looks fine, but many more Miss Universe contestants are already prettier than her at this stage and more, prettier girls will show up come competition time. Second, she doesn't have a good body. She doesn't have the natural curves of a woman (hips, in particular). And her upper thighs and lower legs are so thin that they don't look proportional to her upper body. She looks horrible in a swimsuit!

I expect her to make it to the semi-finals (maybe even the Top 5) with her story and the impact her presence creates for Miss Universe, but I don't expect her to win the crown. Not with that face and body, and certainly not unless she outsmarts Miss Philippines -- if Catriona Gray makes it to the Top 5 -- in the Q&A.
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Postby Jim_From_Boston » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:47 am

I’ll admit that you do raise an interesting point, and while I can’t offer a distinguishing factor that would categorically win an argument, I’m of the opinion that these contests should be reserved for naturally born women. That’s just my opinion, and yes I’m old school. I’ve been watching Miss Universe for decades now, but if it’s going to allow transgenders to compete I’ll probably stop watching.
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IT'S LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT PUERTO RICAN IN THE ISLAND SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENT OF USA BECAUSE THEY ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS? =;)) =;)) =;))
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Postby micoexpress5 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:18 am

Miss Universe, the only big one and the other boring beauty pageants should just break the rules and be more accepting, like allowing not only natural born women but also transwomen, drag queens, gays, married women, little women, women on their 30’s and beyond, voluptuous women like Ashley Graham, divorcee, women with children and much more. We should make a petition for Katelyn Jenner to join Miss USA and hopefully wins and be the USA’s representative for the 2019 Miss Universe. The crazier the merrier! ( the word crazier is use for laughter and not to demean people). Breaking a rule for only certain kind of people is not fair n just so we should demand acceptance and tolerance for all kinds of people! Right?
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Postby BeautyBeach » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:30 am

HowDoYouKnow wrote:Miss Spain's biggest advantage is her story, and I'm sure IMG is going to milk it for all it is worth.

She certainly doesn't have any biological advantage, however. First of all, she's not really pretty. She looks fine, but many more Miss Universe contestants are already prettier than her at this stage and more, prettier girls will show up come competition time. Second, she doesn't have a good body. She doesn't have the natural curves of a woman (hips, in particular). And her upper thighs and lower legs are so thin that they don't look proportional to her upper body. She looks horrible in a swimsuit!

I expect her to make it to the semi-finals (maybe even the Top 5) with her story and the impact her presence creates for Miss Universe, but I don't expect her to win the crown. Not with that face and body, and certainly not unless she outsmarts Miss Philippines -- if Catriona Gray makes it to the Top 5 -- in the Q&A.


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Postby rainiel » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:41 am

some of you maybe correct that Miss Universe will bank on her story, for what it is now, everyone has their opinions. But I think, Miss Universe is not ready to crown a transexual yet. and maybe after her, IMG will recalculate the rules. But for all the story's worth for now, it's selling and being hyped. so let it be. the universe will watch her journey but crowning her is a bit far fetched...or I may be wrong.
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Postby micoexpress5 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:51 am

rainiel wrote:some of you maybe correct that Miss Universe will bank on her story, for what it is now, everyone has their opinions. But I think, Miss Universe is not ready to crown a transexual yet. and maybe after her, IMG will recalculate the rules. But for all the story's worth for now, it's selling and being hyped. so let it be. the universe will watch her journey but crowning her is a bit far fetched...or I may be wrong.


Miss Spain will have the biggest story come Miss Universe and her story stands alone. If she wins this will create the biggest pageant story of all time and It will be the biggest talk of all walks of life all over the world, IMG will take advantage of this scenario. My gut is telling me Miss Spain will be Miss Universe 2018. Her beauty plus her story can guarantee her the crown.
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Postby blazingskyx27 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:40 am

The closest incident in which a "transsexual" allegedly participated in Miss Universe history was when Miss France Universe 2001 Elodie Gossuin was suspected & accused of being an actual man during the pageant, which she vehemently denied.( She got pregnant in 2013 ) But still, the negative publicity & attention enabled her to clinch a spot in the semifinals.

Fast forward 17 years, and we actually have a real transgender competing for the 1st time in Miss Universe 2018. It's too early to hype Angela Ponce's chances in the pageant. We have no idea how she will measure up against the front runners this season, such as Misses USA, Mexico, South Africa, Vietnam & the powerhouses Venezuela, Colombia & The Philippines. Is she eloquent & communicates extremely well?

IMG can be unpredictable when it comes to their choices & the girls good enough to be short listed as Miss Universe shoo ins. Haiti's Raquel Pelissier & Jamaica's Davina Bennett , had they won in their respective Miss Universe stints , should have been statements when it comes to the diversity of Miss Universe winners. Iraq's historical first representative for Miss Universe should have been considered in the semifinals, the fact that a beauty queen from a Muslim country joined the pageant which is considered as a taboo in their culture.
The question here is: how much risk is IMG willing to take in crowning a transgender woman ? As of now, Angela Ponce is considered as a polarizing figure by pageant fans. Much as publicity & free press will be generated in her presence alone, will her victory do any good for the brand of the company, especially in this scary,politically & socially tumultuous Trump presidency ?
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Postby ManMeat » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:28 am

It's new chapter of evolution in pageantry.
Privious rule was unfair for trans women too.

Besides, your complaining make her more famous
And it's not baby womb competition
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Postby Prissila » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:39 am

SHE looks weird here!that long neck with big gulp looks like giraffe !i think she will clap hard!
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Postby Agnes Rosenberg » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:40 pm

JoelR wrote: While I try not to start arguments and pick fights I just have to say this. The whole argument of unfairness of Miss Spain competing towards natural born woman is very..... hypocritical. Is it fair for Miss Puerto, Miss Venezuela and Miss Domician Republic to place over girls who are natural beauties and have never had plastic surgery? How fair was it to Japan and other girls that Zuleyka won having multiple plastic surgeries? Same with Molly, Stefania and Dayana. Miriam Habach won best body but as we know Osmel has them get plastic surgery to prefect their body. How fair was that to girls that worked hard at the gym to get in shape? And yes Miram did go to the gym but surgery def. Gave her an advantage. Fair is fair.


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Postby fortela » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:59 pm

I accept transgenders but but something is just so basically wrong for them to join a real woman pageant like miss universe. my instincts tell me so, at the very basic level, like farthing loudly in a fine dining restaurant
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Postby fortela » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:27 pm

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JoelR wrote: While I try not to start arguments and pick fights I just have to say this. The whole argument of unfairness of Miss Spain competing towards natural born woman is very..... hypocritical. Is it fair for Miss Puerto, Miss Venezuela and Miss Domician Republic to place over girls who are natural beauties and have never had plastic surgery? How fair was it to Japan and other girls that Zuleyka won having multiple plastic surgeries? Same with Molly, Stefania and Dayana. Miriam Habach won best body but as we know Osmel has them get plastic surgery to prefect their body. How fair was that to girls that worked hard at the gym to get in shape? And yes Miram did go to the gym but surgery def. Gave her an advantage. Fair is fair.


SO WHAT ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR? :-O :-O :-O TO MALIGN US THE TRANSGENDERS? =O/ =O/ =O/


but these women did not castrate their pedis and testcles which is at the very basic level and zuleyka still carries the xx chromose all over her body ...gets?
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Postby Agnes Rosenberg » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:40 pm

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Postby JoelR » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:46 am

Agnes Rosenberg wrote:
JoelR wrote: While I try not to start arguments and pick fights I just have to say this. The whole argument of unfairness of Miss Spain competing towards natural born woman is very..... hypocritical. Is it fair for Miss Puerto, Miss Venezuela and Miss Domician Republic to place over girls who are natural beauties and have never had plastic surgery? How fair was it to Japan and other girls that Zuleyka won having multiple plastic surgeries? Same with Molly, Stefania and Dayana. Miriam Habach won best body but as we know Osmel has them get plastic surgery to prefect their body. How fair was that to girls that worked hard at the gym to get in shape? And yes Miram did go to the gym but surgery def. Gave her an advantage. Fair is fair.


SO WHAT ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR? :-O :-O :-O TO MALIGN US THE TRANSGENDERS? =O/ =O/ =O/


I defending the transgender community. I'm just saying people are saying it's unfair because they had tons of plastic surgery but Venezuela does too. So they need to shut up and get over it, Spain is competing and that's it.
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Postby JoelR » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:51 am

fortela wrote:
Agnes Rosenberg wrote:
JoelR wrote: While I try not to start arguments and pick fights I just have to say this. The whole argument of unfairness of Miss Spain competing towards natural born woman is very..... hypocritical. Is it fair for Miss Puerto, Miss Venezuela and Miss Domician Republic to place over girls who are natural beauties and have never had plastic surgery? How fair was it to Japan and other girls that Zuleyka won having multiple plastic surgeries? Same with Molly, Stefania and Dayana. Miriam Habach won best body but as we know Osmel has them get plastic surgery to prefect their body. How fair was that to girls that worked hard at the gym to get in shape? And yes Miram did go to the gym but surgery def. Gave her an advantage. Fair is fair.


SO WHAT ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR? :-O :-O :-O TO MALIGN US THE TRANSGENDERS? =O/ =O/ =O/


but these women did not castrate their pedis and testcles which is at the very basic level and zuleyka still carries the xx chromose all over her body ...gets?


ok I get that BUT do you really think Zuleyka would've even placed top 20 if she showed up looking how she did when she won Miss Puerto Rico? (Before she had tons of procedures done to her face.) Same with Dayana, she would've clapped hard if she didn't get work done.
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Postby JoelR » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:54 am

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I think I didn't make it clear, I am in favor of Transgender woman competing. The transgender community have struggles just like natural born women.
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Postby RatedX » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:30 am

Spain will place definitely.

But I don't think she'll win. Too early to crown a transgender as Miss Universe.

Just imagine the backlash IMG will get if they crown her, especially from conservative ND. Worst case scenario is many countries will boycott Miss Universe if they crown her.
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Postby k_west » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:49 pm

This is crazy!!! We need to know the thin line between inclusivity and down-right foolishness,,,,
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Postby Agnes Rosenberg » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:50 am

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Re: Transgender woman competing unfair for natural born wome

Postby Agnes Rosenberg » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:54 pm

TO ALL UGLY FREAK WHO HATES AND JUDGING US TRANS
ONE THING IS SURE, ALL OF YOU CANNOT DAMN STOP US IN JOINING PAGEANTS !!!

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Re: Transgender woman competing unfair for natural born wome

Postby Flordeliza Luningning » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:50 pm

Angella Ponce is the FRONTRUNNER now in Miss Universe 2018 <:-P

Go Angela and dont mind these jealous bitches, they are bitter
becuase we are BEUATIFUL than them... >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p >=p



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Re: Transgender woman competing unfair for natural born wome

Postby Agnes Rosenberg » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:00 pm

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TO ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THAT MISS UNIVERSE IS ONLY FOR
NATURAL BORN WOMEN, WELL, TIME HAS CHANGED AND THE TIME IS NOW.

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Re: Transgender woman competing unfair for natural born wome

Postby Bongacious Divah » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:17 am

GO ANGELA PONCE... >=p >=p >=p
FORGET THE HATERS THEY ARE YOUR BIGGEST FANS!

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