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Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Oma-san » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:56 am

    

I've noticed that Trump's Miss Universe Organization crowned quite a handful of girls who were known to be bitches -

Amelia Vega
Zuleyka Rivera
Paulina Vega
Stefania Fernandes

and gold diggers:

Leila Lopes
Natalie Glebova

as well as plain janes:

Riyo Mori
Molly Isler

Whereas IMG crowned three gorgeous women especially who had great inner beauty atleast in the case of Pia Wurtzbach and undeniably Iris Mittanaere.

I read that IMG is now planning to adopt Trump's mode of selection and I just hope this isn't true!

Apart from the glitz and glamour, Trump's set of finalists were mostly based on looks with little personality and who can forget his choice of European delegates in 2009 and 2012 who were known to be bitches. Whereas, he insulted great representatives such as Oxana Fedorova who was from Europe simply because she didn't accept his sexual entertainment a la Howard Stern.

Apart from the glitz and glamour, the winners were mostly disappointing unlike IMG's winners.


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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby hotdog » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:35 am

LOL you are too harsh...


But i do want to see Trump taking back miss universe if he looses his re-election 2020
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby elio » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:36 am

I BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE IN TRUMP DAYS THEY FOCUS ON OVERALL BEAUTY AND INTERISTING AND GOOD PERSONNALITY LIKE PAULINA VEGA(SHE WAS THE MOST COMPLETE BEAUTY WISE: BEST BODY AND FACE IN HER YEAR AND SHE IS FUN AND BUBBLY,SAME THING APPLY ALSO TO AMELIA VEGA,DAYANA,ZULEYKA AND OTHERS)
IN IMG DAYS THE WINNERS AS I SAW SHOULD BE A VERY GOOD SPEAKER ,WHO COULD SPEAK FOR HOURS,AND AND THEIR SPEAKING SHOULD BE DEPTH ,ESSENCE,AND A LOT KNOWLEDGE AND INFLUENCE(EXEMPLE PIA),AND I NOTICE BESIDE THE SPEAKING THEIR ARE FOCUSING ALSO ABOUT THE STUNNING FACIAL BEAUTY ,IF WE LOOK DEEPER AT THE LAST THREE MISS UNIVERSE UNDER IMG,ALL HAVE INCREDIBLE STUNNING FACIAL BEAUTY.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby JorgeInternational » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:30 am

Obviously the Trump Era was Splendid and explosive! in some cases controversial
as the victory and resignation of Oxana Fedorova.
Trump is a bastard who does not mind saying that choosing Oxana was one of the worst mistakes
and also that he does not like Russian girls.

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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby JorgeInternational » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:00 pm

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Alicia Machado was the first Miss Universe under the Trump Era. In that year 1996 Trump could not guess
all the headaches that this Venezuelan girl would give her.

A few months after her Miss Universe's coronation, Machado gained what she said was about 12 pounds in weight and she was fat as a pig :@)
I don't like Trump, because he's a Racist, proud and arrogant businessman, But in this case he was absolutely right! not only that, because Alicia has always been mentally deranged.

After mounting pressure to lose weight from Trump and other pageant officials, Machado asked Trump to assist her with orienting toward a healthier lifestyle.

Alicia Machado proven to be an irresponsible and capricious girl.
With a Miss Universe so fat, Trump quickly had to organize a press conference to reassure the sponsors.
Trump arranged for 80 reporters to "watch [her] sweat" in a gym, which Machado later called "in very bad taste".

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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Mildred Styles » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:48 pm

The only good thing about the Trump era was the production during the pageant night, the pre-pageant activities and the sponsorships. We should all be reminded that Trump was very misogynistic towards the girls and treated some of the winners like shit (e.g: Humiliating Alicia, Saying a racist remark about Natalie and Kamie, spying on the girls backstage during the Miss Teen USA pageant in 2010, etc). I'd rather have a boring pageant that prioritizes its contestants than an entertaining one but treats the women poorly.

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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Mariana Erwin » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:21 pm

The only good thing about this was the production. Yes, production-wise, the pageant was very entertaining, but it came with a price. Instead of getting good winners, some of the winners were just unpopular, and this was because of the awful new criteria that he implemented. While it did make the pageant fans view it more, the non-pageant fans no longer wanted to view it because it was becoming too superficial. In fact, when Stefania won the pageant, some fans never liked it since they felt that the pageant was rigged (although I like Stefania and some fans began liking her about 3-4 months after her reign).

I just hope IMG will not adapt to this, but I do also hope that IMG will also do something better than what they can do now in terms of production. In the end, the Trump era was entertaining and at the same time, cringe-worthy. The advent of #SaveTheQueen, the ridiculous format of Miss USA 2011, the change of the Orente score to the current one still used today, the changing of sashes, and the ridiculous DIC crown came in the Trump era (although the Mikimoto came with it too since it replaced the Margie Moran crown). It was full of controversy to the point that non-pageant fans began to be sick of it and the ratings went lower and lower. In the end, the Trump era is only beautiful outside. Inside is a different story and fans have already cringed at it.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Nina Cleopatra » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:48 pm

Truth be told. Trump girls were faaaaaaaaaaar superior to IMG girls. Those were the golden years of the MUO.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby vincintjance » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:18 pm

TRUMP ERA WAS THE BEST AND THE FIERCEST!!! I FORESEE IMG WILL SOON ADOPT HIS MANAGEMENT STYLE UNDER MUO. THE MOST COMPETITIVE CONTESTANT WINS!!!!!
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby AUSTIN III » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:22 pm

IMG is reformatting the pageant, I think fans are prone to changes rather. IMG girls so far are queens with so much substance and potentially the next big figures in their fields. The decline of pageants however is a challenge to IMG, but their selection and critera are a lot fairer and more transparent than late trump era and look how they drew so many debuting countries, kudos for that.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby DORABIAN » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:22 pm

IF I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN TRUMP OR IMG ERA. I WILL CHOOSE TRUMP ANYTIME, ANYDAY!

IMG ERA IS LOOKING FOR WOMAN WITH SUBSTANCE, GREAT SPEAKER BUT AT THE END THE WINNER JUST STRANDED IN APARTMENT OF NY. NO INTERNATIONAL TOURS.DO NOTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN AROUND THE WORLD LIKE NATURAL DISASTER ETC.

AT LEAST DURING TRUMP ERA THE TITLEHOLDER ARE VISIBLE DOING SOCIAL WORK AND WORLD TOUR.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby otangzi » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:37 pm

The production and the selection process was way better during Trump however on the wholistic view, IMG wins.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby rockondude » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:51 pm

Trump era is iconic, an era full of beauty and glamour.
There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby fortela » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:17 pm

during trump era viewership of ms universe in USA was much higher. his statement "beauty sells" is so true. oxana federova is a quitter and i dont like quitters and she is the embodiment of very beautuful russian spoiled brats. i heard there is quite a lot of them in russia and eastern europe because they are indeed so beautiful that rich men spoil and lavish them with gifts
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Maanjit_Xia » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:49 pm

So far, no reports of creepiness, voyeurism, and harassment by the owner (especially at Miss Teen USA) have been raised by contestants outside of (before and after) the Trump era.

Is that a positive difference? :-D
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby prowazekii » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:59 pm

it is much better, If trump still own especially now his 8-> 8-> the president of the most fcking country on earth..
i think of Miss Universe who is the most beautiful, most femininely graceful, most charming, delightful and sweet...
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby iamkenmotion » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:37 am

I dont understand the people who chose Trump's management. It was surely entertaining but that management wasn't respectful. Too much noise that deteriorates the pageants reputation. too much disrespect for women. I believe pageants is a platform for women to show their femininity and beauty and that should always be the core of every pageant in the universe.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Mariana Erwin » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:50 am

fortela wrote:during trump era viewership of ms universe in USA was much higher. his statement "beauty sells" is so true. oxana federova is a quitter and i dont like quitters and she is the embodiment of very beautuful russian spoiled brats. i heard there is quite a lot of them in russia and eastern europe because they are indeed so beautiful that rich men spoil and lavish them with gifts
The unfortunate thing with ''beauty sells'' is that it cheapens the pageant. The era was very entertaining and it did try to woo some viewers back - but non-pageant fans had quit watching it by the time the era started to end. The NBC part of the era was just a farce for some non-pageant fans because it removed the transparency that it used to cherish in favor of making the pageant fans nervous. Not only that, the controversies surrounding each edition made it lose viewers one by one. It did have higher viewers before, but it dwindled as the era ended.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby zoondwaine » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:32 am

Have you noticed guys the forumer here who like Trump, Trump Mngmnt, some Trump Bitches?

What are their similarities? Hehehe
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby SisterGertrude » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:53 am

Funny how people say Trump hates Russians. Didn't the Russians rig the US elections in his favor?
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Oma-san » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:15 am

fortela wrote:during trump era viewership of ms universe in USA was much higher. his statement "beauty sells" is so true. oxana federova is a quitter and i dont like quitters and she is the embodiment of very beautuful russian spoiled brats. i heard there is quite a lot of them in russia and eastern europe because they are indeed so beautiful that rich men spoil and lavish them with gifts


How is she spoilt? She was a Ph.D student at the time of her participation in Miss Universe. She quit because she didn't want to be a part of Donald's circus. She proved that a person in the 21st century still has other priorities than fame and attention. Honestly, the interview with Howard Stern thoroughly embarrassed America. For years, the US government had been painting a very negative image of Russia and here was a Russian young lady, so elegant and refined. She didn't even want to comment on Trump during the elections even after all the mean things that Trump said about her.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Oma-san » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:17 am

zoondwaine wrote:Have you noticed guys the forumer here who like Trump, Trump Mngmnt, some Trump Bitches?

What are their similarities? Hehehe


Desperate hoes are butthurt because their undeserving gals was crowned in Trump's era. The bias is so obvious. Even their winners hated winning in that era. Zuleyka Rivera and Alicia Machado especially.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby ctogarrick » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:04 am

All I can say is that during the Trump era, there was a slow transition of winners and mostly semi - finalist from refined, queenly/regal type of winners such as Margie Moran
to the slutty and Bimbo type of winners such as______ _______ and others.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby TheK » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:14 am

Univision Era is Dead :-*

The rule of the white washed colonies are over.

The time of laundered money is over

Embrace the Afro-Eur-Asia era
Yes this is the afro-eurasia era

And to that region of the world
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Mariana Erwin » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:22 am

SisterGertrude wrote:Funny how people say Trump hates Russians. Didn't the Russians rig the US elections in his favor?
I think he used to dislike Russia and its people before Miss Universe 2013. After Miss Universe 2013 (which was hosted in Russia), I think that's when he started loving them.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Mariana Erwin » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:29 am

zoondwaine wrote:Have you noticed guys the forumer here who like Trump, Trump Mngmnt, some Trump Bitches?

What are their similarities? Hehehe
I think they just want good production, which is what IMG should focus on. However, at the same time, they should also realize that Miss Universe shouldn't be a title just to flaunt or show since it is more than just that. During the Trump era, the pageant always had controversies and some additions, such as #SaveTheQueen, the Miss USA 2011 format, and the change of the Orente score to the current score that the MUO uses for Miss USA and Miss Universe made some fans cringe. They also changed the font of the sashes by 2011 - replacing a sash font that will never be forgotten in the pageant. The worst was the reign of the 2006 sisters and the fact that the Miss Universe 2014 pageant was held in January 2015 instead of being in 2014 (which IMG only did again in 2016).
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Mildred Styles » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:49 pm

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I dont understand the people who chose Trump's management. It was surely entertaining but that management wasn't respectful. Too much noise that deteriorates the pageants reputation. too much disrespect for women. I believe pageants is a platform for women to show their femininity and beauty and that should always be the core of every pageant in the universe.


Misogyny is a huge problem in this forum. Just look at all the posters above dismissing all the reported harassment from the previous owners because they found the previous org "entertaining. It's disgusting.

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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Oma-san » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:58 pm

Mildred Styles wrote:
iamkenmotion wrote:
I dont understand the people who chose Trump's management. It was surely entertaining but that management wasn't respectful. Too much noise that deteriorates the pageants reputation. too much disrespect for women. I believe pageants is a platform for women to show their femininity and beauty and that should always be the core of every pageant in the universe.


Misogyny is a huge problem in this forum. Just look at all the posters above dismissing all the reported harassment from the previous owners because they found the previous org "entertaining. It's disgusting.


Spot on! sister.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Oma-san » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:00 pm

TheK wrote:Univision Era is Dead :-*

The rule of the white washed colonies are over.

The time of laundered money is over

Embrace the Afro-Eur-Asia era
Yes this is the afro-eurasia era

And to that region of the world
por favor, la fantasía es terminado
la resistencia es inútil :)>-






But wasn't it a bit unfair of WME/IMG to group Africa and Asia together? And they had Europe as a single group. How many countries are there in Europe compared to Africa and Asia. It's reminiscent of the times when Australian placement was used to represent Asia/Oceania and Australia sends white girls 90% of the time.
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Re: Difference between Trump MUO and current org

Postby Oma-san » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:04 pm

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SisterGertrude wrote:Funny how people say Trump hates Russians. Didn't the Russians rig the US elections in his favor?
I think he used to dislike Russia and its people before Miss Universe 2013. After Miss Universe 2013 (which was hosted in Russia), I think that's when he started loving them.


I read somewhere that Emin even offered to send prostitutes to his room. This article reveals similar scandals that went on in that 2013 pageant. Luckily, none of the delegates were harassed.
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